historic resources. that's the intent and that's why it wasn't brought before you. i don't have the ordinance in front of the of me but i can take a look at it to know what specific section it is referring to >> have it. >> commissioner wolfram in the meantime. >> i have a question for staff. in your analysis the analysis seems like it is all about the design and is it the 4 design or did it come later and it came later staff has not in fact, the 4 design option that was permitted by the project sponsor

in your package >> it's the preferred solution. >> they'll describe what - >> they've not exempted on that. >> commissioner pearlman >> i have a technical request about the bar building that's referred to in 3 places as 3 materials as cast stone and on page 6 indiana limestone and on another page it's another material. >> i believe that the cast stone that resembles indiana line. >> so one the city attorney's. >> basically, the ordinance just talks about the district the ordinance is written as effecting any non-secondary

structures in the c-3 r downtown zoning district. so if you narrow this down to the parcel then in the report it has been advised for this particular structure >> i understand that. >> and in the commission what the commission is to accomplish on page 7 of the draft ordinance it will allow the demolition and reconstruction only if the proposed removal and construction will come to several things.

it says in the terms it doesn't apply in the historic district it it were affected >> okay sponsor if you folks want to get going on our presentation. thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners i'm the restrict developer with apple. i'm pleased to present our project here today, it's been a good journey along with the ar c and staff to study the project and you will see today how it's

evolved. i think you all remember where we started that's a great journey that is graft will take us on and we have jay here the historic architect and another architect who's a consultant we've developed this into a world-class building for a world-class city. the building the plaza are really, really phenomenal. when we met with the ar c we heard our comments and we that responded with the 6 bay design and through our studies we understood understand do that the 3 outer columns would be cosmetic there's a structure

underneath them so we're coming back today for evaluation. we'll talk about the foundation today as has been discussed, you know, the foundation the placement is incredible it moves forward to the street and it's closer for people to enjoy. the way the steps are constructed it will fit exactly as the same height and debt as the stairs the way is that it doesn't now expect a bit closer to the street. the whole foundation issue we feel badly how it's been displayed, however, the background on the foundation the hyatt owns the fountains apple does not own it.

at the time, we initiated the project the hyatt was responsible for that and since then when he saw what was happening we've come up with an elegant solution and was described we have the right people working on it to insure it's preserved properly and treated with the respect that it should be. we've also met with community and received feedback on the project. the union square improvement district and the bay area council and they're excited about what this, do draw traffic from up north the retail to market street. and potential in shopping in union sxrar heard feedback from

retailers how excited they are that this store can happen in its of current location. so we're looking forward to our review and hopefully, your approval of the project. we're targeting right now to have this store opened in 2014 and look forward to that journey >> while the next speaker is coming up you've got 11 minutes left. >> good afternoon. i'm james i'm from the one firm mentioned. if i go too fast excuse me. to slow down. i'll start with the location of the building the existing building doesn't conform to the environment it's an urban are form the only triangle buckle in

the environment and it was for a form that is more contextual. the thing we like about this site is the architects who drive this is the opportunity to have the plazas and there's one behind the building and they're not expediting. the plazas is an important part of the design. the existing plaza is an uncomfortable space because it's open and ore proposal is for a slightly larger plaza but it wouldn't be necessarily a smaller plaza we're introducing vegetation and some people know

that pail i didn't park in new york contains a more contrary space. this vacancy the building and this is the scheme we proposed to the ar c in december. the comments were to do with the facade overlooking union square and have some articulation. we worked to add the articulation and rather than introducing columns we wanted to do something interesting so credit is a large sliding door glassed hanging doors. we're we're hoping we're answering the requests are inform the arbitration andtively bring a more function we're not

just adding columns the construction is complicated. we as both rick pointed out the columns to the east and he west of this elevation can't be taken down to foundation because of the elements below so their decorative as a column so we would prefer to go to the scheme where we eliminate those a 4 base theme to force the glaze there's still arbitration that's provided >> i'm sorry can we have the secondary conversation moved out please. when the weather is good we can open up those sliding doors and create an opening of 46 feet

wide and the doors are 23 inches wide each. there are possibilities when the doors are opened 10 feet and there's a certain amount of elements that we feel if we add the additional columns it's the commissions views are important and respect that but we prefer the 4 base scheme. i'm moving quickly how the existing building holds the corner and which is more typical to the urban environment in 9 district. i mentioned briefly about the structure it's a complicated structure the floor and roof propensity have a trust wall that supports all the structure.

and then the side walls are purely there as sheer walls so there's a certain amount of support. there are two columns supporting the building and this is the exit staircase in the corner. this is just a plan here. it is including the sliding glass doors and this is the plan that he with showed the ar c and we've incorporated the chances the sliding glass demeanor and this arbitration. we've included the same arbitration on the north elevation where we added a symmetrical we felt there was a break up on the elevation as well. >> could you repeat those two slides. >> this is where we were before and then if i move forward we've

move forward to the doors to the corners this platoon is the past doors are in the correspondence so to the est and west. and because we have the sliding door in the center. we reciprocate >> prayer by the chaplain. >> that on the north elevation and we've increased the width of the staircase so adding back some more staircase area actually on stockton street itself. so here is the section of the building again, we're taking the structure down into the building itself so it's quite complicated. a view inside it's great to be overlooking the square so you're looking on the second floor you'll have the training tables to have people up in that space and overlooking stockton street

and when the doors are open it's like being on a terrace street i'm sorry union scombrar. this is a view along stockton street we see the foundation and is plaza itself and we see the elevation on stockton street we've included the window and returns into being a skylight over the building. and a view of the plaza space with trees and seating and a x press bar with the hyatt. we're going to use that x press bar and the other thing with the apple store it starts up where people get pursuits we'll have wifi in that space. i think what we really time is for people to use the space its

become active again. that's an image of night. we've been borrowing light from the store and hotel. as rick mentioned this is where we started we have an 80 foot facade on stockton street working with staff we moved to where we have created a slot window we have a 50 to the wall so we have this pushed up the glazing on post street to create a more comfortable approach and entrance into the building but maintains this overhang on post street. talking about the materials. we talked about the stainless

steel and it was total acceptable within the contacts. i think another thing we like about the material it has muted images and it's a beautiful material and very expensive material. we like it because it didn't reflect strongly but picks up those muted reflect shuns. we've talked about the foundation. it's moved approximately 10 feet it's 6 to the and 6 inches is the dialogal movement it's the center point of the plaza. we cough left it but it wouldn't be on center and in focus of the plaza. the focus today is how the

fountain is today. i'll step back eave moved the fountain and it's behind the tree we're taking the reminding a little bit of arbitration from the trees. the actual fountain is slightly cross but still the focal point it's an important part of the design and integrated into our design. there is in front of the of the fountain. we proposed putting the floor in front of the fountain, however, it could go both one of the wails on either side but right now it's on the floor in front of the of the fountain and that obviously will be retained.

i'm very very briefly talking about the mapping again and saying how it creates the form and holds the corner. and some of the detailing on what we call the bar building dhs the building that houses the mechanic rooms additional stock rooms and the ingenious room the back of the facilities. and we looked at neighboring buildings within the conservation district and there's a lot of building that have the glazing elements. we feel we're responding to the conservation district with our new concept south of the bay. and some views again there are artistic but the idea we have a

well aluminated store and it becomes a window into union square and to midnight time the existing street lights will be retained and in the plaza. if i finish saying the store a gateway between my own square and the night line it's important we see the transparency through the building thank you >> thank you. do you have another speaker we're going to extend your time for 2 minutes >> your good. >> okay. thank you very much. commissioners? questions. staff. sponsor? anyone >> i have one question. >> commissioner hyland. is there any exterior equipment and where is it located

>> no interior commit only a flew that comes i comes up from a back up generator but it comes out on the bar building we don't want to mess up the revolver on the apple store >> any other questions or comments commissioners. we'll open up any public comment? i have to speaker cards. jaits and fold by another gentleman >> good afternoon. i have a some letters. hi, i'm jazzy work with the

united workers west and i think the last meeting i came to you expressed i represent 4 thousand members and security officers many work and live in the city. our members make modest salaries their reliant on public transit my public spaces sort of the whole environmental picture that's looked at the under sequa is important to our members a lot of them live in small apartments and don't have cars. so we're concerned about the way this process has been done. as i've said before i don't know if there's someone from forter if i say piecemeal but points of view this come before this body

and piece of this this before the architecture committee and before the board of supervisors and we hope that this would come as a package and have it delivered under sequa for you'll the possible impacts as we believe the law says rather than doing in back and forth and to consider all the things i think we're now looking at the project sponsors and the planning department are seeking an exemption from sequa and so i guess i understand why there would more time for the continuous but i think your position is the same. i look at the public space and a worry about a little bit about the public access and the way

that the space is a configured. i see some of the pictures tables with pursuits in the back and talking about people coming from the cafe and hotel i think it's great the space would get important usage but i think are we talking about the same kind of public space or private space this was created as on offset that far exceeded was it no more in the district; right? that's a little bit peculiar that that deserves nor thought >> thank you, mr. drearyy. >> i'm richard i'm representing s c i ushlgs workers west and samuel coal and daniel who have

lived here and worked over thirty years. apple has proposed a store that will change the face of the sophomore for decades and decades to come. it will string the plazas by thirty percent according to our certified planners. as the very at least we are urge the committee to take the project that was different that was presented on december 5th take the new project back the the arc that's it dollars not a staff report that. please do rush into this without the proper review. we believe at the very least the new project should be reviewed by the architecture committee and sequa should be required because this project has significant impacts on was

fountain and placing. we believe this project is incompatible with union square my the conservation district because of the materials being used. first, the threshold question under the charter all ordinances that may affect historical resources you must be brought before this committee before the oth other agencies. this affects las vegas yi it houses a historic resources a fountain therefore this has an affect on the resources and must be presented here before the planning commission. this project is thinking that compatible with the conservation district in section 67 it says preferred materials are brick,

stone and terry cot. you couldn't be farther from this as made out of stairwells and glass. well, there's the little strip on the side that looks like stone. well, if you can have a piece of stone next to our building and say this building is made of stolen this definition has no meaning. it's basically a making sense less definition and finally, we believe sequa review is required. it's not right under the sections it says if a project may have an impact on historic resources - >> thank you. >> and may not.

>> any other any public comment? >> president hasz i'm the author of section 1.35 that creates the powers you enjoy today. i respectfully disagree with may be councils nuance interpretation in as far as this is a skerm district. the piece of legislation should have been referred to you. you have to actually prepare a written report if you want to defer to the voices let me suggest you under the charter have the power to bring that legislation for you to comment on its been the subject of a robust codifies and much controversy because at various italy rationed it talked about

two dozen properties historic properties by the staffs recommendations. you should absolutely be discussing this. as for the project itself let me social myself with the comments of previous violated it's not compatible with the district this is a retail branding posing and architecture. i have a great problem with this the fountain should be identified as a hifkz resource that doesn't mean you could not move it but it should be identified as a rurlt resource. the staff didn't mention that the heritage put in a letter that reiterates that pursuant to proposition j section 4.130 that piece of enabling legislation

should be proper before tomorrow's commission until and a unless you've reviewed it. >> any public comment on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. back to you, commissioners. . commissioners, comments or questions >> where do we want to start. >> commissioner johnck. >> sure i'm interested in the one point at the moment about the architecture review committee. and not all projects come back for a second i mean, you made some comments there were changes made. i guess is it typical of or not typical to go back or - >> most projects do not come back. >> do not come back so it's

unusual. >> so i want to direct your comments about the changes. >> commissioner pearlman do you want to comment. >> sure i've got a lot to say. this is incredibly challenging problem. i've spent a lot of time walking that district within the last two weeks and pay checks walked up and down the streets and got a feel for the buildings in this area. i want to commend the partners. i think that the changes to the facade and the a number of our comments relative