this is good and we can put it out there once we get our feedback and make the appropriate changes to get it where we need it to go. >>supervisor john avalos: great. thank you. okay. item b within this item. is that miss miller? >> this item will be dropped from the agenda. our mou goes to the end of fiscal year 14-15. we have another year 1/2 on the mou. that was my fault. we don't need to hear that item. >>supervisor john avalos: great. if there are no other comments from the panel. we'll go to public comment. >> good afternoon commissioners, eric brooks local green party for the city. first once again thank you for the lafco for taking

out the bold steps. we have had a couple moments like this in history where things got caught up and glad to see it moving forward. some quick technical notes. i think one thing that will really and we discussed it a little bit, i completely concur with exploring all possible actions with shell and without shell and other contractors like shell or do it in house which i think the advocates are most supportive of that. one thing that i have noticed is that we have not heard from the sfpuc or from any other source that i know of exactly what is going on right now with the shell contract. that was put on holdback in august and we have not heard. i think we should ask sfpuc to clarify what's going on with that. as far as the whole thing, i think the key here is that

even if the sfpuc gets considerably more involved and starts doing it own work on build out and cleanpowersf and gets back in the game. i think back where we let them take the ball back. this is the moment where we need to lafco stay the drive of this. this is politics. the key with the sfpuc is that as an enterprise agency that is in charge of rate payers and keeping the system secure, they are mandated to be secure about this. lafco can really push the envelope in developing an rfp that will face the compliment crisis and we need to you keep this in-house. >>supervisor john avalos: thank you.

>> hello commissioners. chad hose skin. we didn't hear too much about the cleanpowersf program. i was at the january 14th puc hearing and i strongly urge you to checkout the power enterprise budget information presented. a memo was available which i believe was the 14-15 two year planning cycle and indicated i think in one sentence that no work would be done on cleanpowersf by power enterprise. the focus seems to be on new high revenue customers and not on engagement. definitely a lot of information in those documents in terms of what the puc is thinking going forward and i don't think it do have

dove tails what the lafco board is expecting. in-house scheduling is a comment that someone made earlier is something we heard the puc staff say they can do. and as mr. freed indicated that could actually not only not add to, but maybe even alleviate some of the funding issues that the puc is having. going to the rfp, we did as a group of advocates send a letter to the lafco staff and urged you to check that out and looking forward working on the lafco rfp going forward and assuming the shell contract is going forward seems questionable, but also maybe might not even matter that much. 20-30 mega watts for four 1/2 years

while substantial may not purely maintain a plan this scope in scale. thank you very much. >>supervisor john avalos: is there any additional public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. there was a question that was raised in public comment. i want to ask puc about that and that is the status of the shell contract. i can speculate probably accurately but i want to hear from you. >> barbara hale from power. we have not engaged with shell. our department let us believe that we are not going forward with the cca program as was conceived since we did not get authority though go forward. we have not been engaging with shell. >>supervisor john avalos: thank you. seems like a land

with a big thud. okay, i thought the puc, the commissioners just did not approve not to exceed rates. but have they made an occasion that cleanpowersf is dead and gone? that wasn't my understanding. they just didn't approve not to exceed rates. >> i think it's accurate to say there has been no formal vote on the status of the program. the general manager and the commission have engaged in public dialogue about the program. we've been given direction at the staff level to focus our efforts on the need to get our financial house back in order. so that's where our focus has been. >>supervisor john avalos: okay. we'll have a presentation on that at our joint meeting. hopefully it

won't be difficult to schedule. okay. commissioner campos. >>supervisor david campos: thank you, mr. chair, i think it's the fact that rates were not approved doesn't necessarily mean that the puc still doesn't have an obligation to continue to do work on the program because as much as that issue on rates remains open, you still have a board of supervisors decision to proceed. and i think it's interesting that the proposed budget does not include any money for clean power because i think it's an interesting thing to see an agency introduce a proposed budget that has to be approved by

the body that approved a program that they are leaving out of the budget. so, i think the board of supervisors certainly will have an opportunity at the budget committee when the budget of the puc is reviewed to make sure that the budget of that agency reflects the priorities that have been set out by the legislative body of the city, the board of supervisors. and i think that there will be a number of supervises who will expect that there will be an allocation of funding to continue with community choice aggregation. >> if i can clarify, you may recall in the past two or three budgets we have not included additional funds for cleanpowersf. we have funds available in the programmatic account that is set aside to

fund cleanpowersf. as i mentioned earlier, that's on the operating side. we have the $19.5 million on reserve that remains on reserve. on the budget as it's proposed, though funds stay where they are. i would characterize that more as in stand still. i think last time we brought a budget to you it did not include additional funds just like this budget won't include additional funds because there was no perceived needs for additional funds. that doesn't mean there are funds that are a part waiting for cca and further direction. hopefully through the joint meeting process we'll get some additional direction. >> i guess my question had to do more for instance with the work on the rfp. >> i understand what miss hale is saying but i think there are funds that are available,

remaining available for cca. she indicated which is sort of contrary to the direction that's been given, i think internally to staff to not work on any longer. >>supervisor john avalos: if that's the issue, then it's a version of the question that i posed earlier because if the puc expects it's budget to be approved, i would imagine that it would allow it's staff to do work that the legislative body in this case anticipates or expects that will be done on this program. >> i think that's true. the item that we drop, the mou which talks about working cooperatively with one another on developing the program and particularly dealing with issues that are a contention. which i recall when there was a no vote on the rate, there were a number of issues that

were expressed as the reasons why. part of the rfp is to explore answers to many of those questions. >> >>supervisor david campos: i would hope the general manager reconsider working with staff on this. >> i do too. >>supervisor john avalos: i was hoping that they would work with them through sfpuc and we have funding as well and next year is what should be in line. is there currently staff that can be helpful and that are budgeted in our budget to do this work? >> the cleanpowersf program is funded as a program. staff can charge to it as they work on it in that program index code. so those funds are sitting

there, staff is not working on it. they will continue to sit there. so to the extent we are given direction to do particular community choice aggregation, clean four sf work, we have the financial resources to perform that work. that's the point i was trying to make. >>supervisor john avalos: okay, the system of the rfp could do that work? >> where we are direct to do that work yes. >> by your staff, by your commission? >> yes. and through the joint meeting process, perhaps that's the venue to discuss these items and to come to some sort of agreement as to what the going forward efforts should be. thank you. >> thank you. i appreciate that. seems like a road we've been on before. experiencing a yogi bear moment. okay. we

can go to our next item. >> item no. 5. executive officers report. i have no report. oh, i'm sorry, there is an announcement for our public seats are vacant. there will be applications available online, they are available right now on the lafco website for the sitting member and the alternate. we'll be posting a notice on our website. we have it up, right? the information is available. thank you. >>supervisor john avalos: thank you, colleagues can probably do some help with the outreach to fill those vacancies and get the applications in for the seats. let's go to public comment on the executive director's report. we have no one coming forward for public comment. close public comment. next

item. >> item no. 6, public comment. >> our next item is general public comment. is there any additional public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. >> next item? >> item no. 7. questions or comments. >> colleagues, any questions or proposals? seeing none. public comment. >> for sf green. especially for agenda items if you are going to have a meeting with the puc. the budget issues were raised earlier today . i know a big problem that was part of the budget. it's now $20 million more per year. it's good to find out how we got stuck with a new inter connected agreement that is going to be that much more money. i don't -- i think it

due to be approved in 15. especially that brings up another item besides cleanpowersf for their 10-year projected budget, the sfpuc has agreed to remove $30 million when we have been trying to get it up to $5 million a year. we need to find out what's going on with the pg & e interconnected agreement and find out why, when we've seen evidence that minnesota solar is beating fossil fuel or price, in usa -- austria -- this is benefit for these departments and not liabilities. it doesn't make sense when we are in a budget

crunch to be cutting things. we need to find out from the sfpuc what the heck is going on. that is the key number, that $20 million a year that's digging in. they have a big water project that they say is a surprise and we have to look at that because it's half a billion dollars. those energy things are something we should really dig into. >>supervisor john avalos: perhaps, sfpuc staff are not here but they can comment. we have a joint meeting in the inter connect agreement. i think there is a discussion that they are -- appealing that 20-minute price tag. >> jason freed. lafco staff. what i remember and what they are planning is now is they

don't have the agreement. when they are projecting farther out. i will double check on it and i think they are projecting all the stuff may not be there so they have a higher price down the road. it's better to do it that way because the current one will be continued and to find out it's not right. i think budgeting towards the worst case scenario in that case. i will double check that for you. >> thank you. okay. we just had public comment. we can close public comment. our next item. >> item no. 8. adjournment. >>supervisor john avalos: colleagues, we are adjourned. have a lovely weekend. [ meeting is adjourned ] >> >> good morning, today is

tuesday, february 4th, 2014, this is the special meeting of the building inspection commission. i would like to remind everyone to please turn off all electronic devices. the first item on the agenda is roll call. >> president mccarthy? >> here. >> mar.

>> here. >> clinch? >> here. >> lee. >> here. >> mccray. >> present. >> melgar. >> here. >> commissioner walker? >> here. >> we have a quorum and the next item is item two, discussion and possible action on the proposed budget of the department of building inspection for fiscal years 14, 15, and 15, 16. in order to pass, it will have to have a vote of five out of the seven. >> good morning, my name is gale and i am the acting chief financial officer for dbi and i made the presentation of the budget at the last meeting. i am happy to say that i have not made any changes to. and the only question that i have received between the two meetings was whether or not we had any funds available for promotional activities related to the 25th anniversary of the

earthquake, we don't have anything specifically for that event but we do have funds for promotional activities in the department as a whole. and we can definitely do something with the existing funds that are in the budget. but that is the only request that i have received in the last 2 weeks. i do except some minor changes to work orders and i thaneds one of the work orderses is going to go up a little bit and the hsa worker is going to be down and they all come out in the wash and minor charges over all and i have nothing else to present at this time. >> i think that this might be the quickest meeting, and i just wanted to obviously take you again and the one thing that and we did talk about this last week and more and more the expansion plans and the office, and i know that it is director

has talked about a numerous occasions the key for me and you have, and i forgot the dollar amount but i think that it is over a million dollars that you for to do the investigation and how to expand the space and all of that? >> and so in this current fiscal year we have $400,000 to do a facility master plan and so we have partnered with the department of public works and they have hired a consultant and they have looked at our existing staff and space and come back with a recommendation that we need more space and the question now is there is fine tuning that is going to happen with how many people do you think that bewill grow to the near term and how many conference rooms do we need and we are going to expand that analysis a little bit into, once we determine exactly how much space we need and what spaces or what are our options and that is going to happen this year with the money that is already budgeted. so if we decide that we need

the current building is 66,000 square feet, if we decide that we need roughly 95,000 square feet, these are very ballpark numbers, then they will say okay, if you need 95,000 square feet you can add on to your building at this cost, you could move into a building in the civic center plaza which would be about this cost or we can build a new building and it would be about this cost so next year i suspect that they will finish all of that type of analysis and we will be moving forward with whatever option and the consultation with us and the mayor's office and there are a lot of people that will be involved so we will take the next step next year and starting over towards whatever resolution seems best, so all parties involved. so what we did since we don't really have an idea of what that resolution is going to be, at this time, we put a half a million in next year's budget for general planning for whatever it is that we decide that we want to do and then we know whatever that is going to

cost money. and so we put in another million in the following year, a million and a half between the two years. as you guys know, that we have to and you have to approve the budget today, hopefully and, then it goes to the mayor's office at the end of february and the mayor does not actually present the budget to the board until june first and some time between now and june first if they have a better idea they may change those numbers and may say we have this perfect building at the corner of market and van ness and give the exact amount of space for x, money and then we might change what is in the proposal that the mayor will put forward to the board, but we don't really know, so the money in the budget is a place holder. >> commissioner walker, so they will do that without us approving it or having any say about it? >> i will expect to come back to you guys to have a say. >> that would be good. >> yes. and my understanding is that you guys need to have a say, the mayor's office, well obviously will have a say and so will the capitol planning

committee and we have been clear that all players need to have a say before we spend what is likely to be a significant amount of money. >> great. >> is there a time line when the mayor has to get back to us about any changes, for example, if they get the budget in february, do they have to come back to us before by april or march. >> they don't have to come back to this body at all and so they can make changes all the way up to the week before they present the budget in june. and they generally do that in consultation with me and the director. but, it does not necessarily come back to this body. and any large changes we will communicate back to the body but we may not know when they are and may happen at the last minute. >> but we do as a commission have an opportunity to go to the budget hearings and voice our concerns. >> you always have that opportunity. >> i guess that the big thing and what i am hearing is, even if we were to hire more people, now, which we look like we are

going to be constantly building here, we don't have anywhere to put these people, it is not a hiring problem that we have right now, the bigger problem is a space problem. >> that is true. we could add a few more people into the existing space, but we could not add a significant number of people to the existing space. the other part of the discussion that we have been having recently with the department of real estate and the mayor's office is could we do a satellite office? is there another office in the close vicinity to dbi that we could rent for more space? and that is still in discussion and one option that was given to us was too far away and so they are looking for an option that is a little closer as a possibility for hiring more staff. >> all right. okay. i think that will be our big challenge, when we first, twoiers ago we were trying to get on it three years ago trying to get back on a mode of hiring people now we are catching up now and the next problem is to keep that flow of nutrition, and of good people coming aboard over the years,

where are we going to put them. i think that this should be a big focus on that. so, but otherwise, congratulations, well done. >> thank you. >> and hopefully they will not give you too hard of a time at the supervisors, and the budget committee may i say. >> is there any more questions? i see none, and it looks like we can call the motion. >> okay. >> is there public comment on this item? >> seeing none, is there a motion? >> i move to approve the budget. >> i second. >> a motion, and a second. so the roll call vote. president mccarthy? >> yes. >> vice president mar? >> yes. >> commissioner clinch? >> yes. >> commissioner lee. >> yes. >> commissioner mccray. >> yes. >> commissioner melgar. >> yes. >> commissioner walker? >> yes. >> the budget is approved and passes unanimously. >> and as a reminder, our next

regular meeting is on february 19th. >> okay. >> and the next item is adjournment. is there a motion to adjourn? >> move to adjourn. >> second. >> thank you. >> all in favor? >> aye. >> aye. >> aye. >> aye. >> closed and adjourned. >> thank you commissioners for coming i

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