school don't forget to pick up a condemn active poster a part of the >> monday, february 24, 2014, the meeting is called to order. >> commissioner president adams. commissioner dooley. commissioner white. commissioner ortiz-cartagena. commissioner riley. commissioner white. the commission has a quorum and a public for this item and all are limited for 3 minutes unless otherwise stabbed. the speakers are requested but

not required to submit their names. >> do we have any members of the public who want to make a comment on told me that are not on toys agenda seeing none, public comment is closed. next item >> approval of the february 13th minutes. >> we have a motion to approve the minutes. all in favor, say i. thank you that takes us to item for a presentation of a certificate of honor for one of our members >> we already miss you luke.

so luke it is my honor to distinguish hour honor to present you with an hour from the city of san francisco it says commissioner luke the 134k is honored to recollection commissioner luke o'brien for the small business commission during his tenure on his commission in september 2009 commissioner o'brian weighed in on over 2 hundred policy matters with deliberate and evenhanded demeanor relating in the containment of san francisco for small businesses. with his knowledge of construction and development sectors he identified numerous

ways to streamline permitting processes and culminating with the reloiment alignment of the unified school district impact fee payments with the fee collection procures. outside of the commission commissioner o'brian provided expert he assistance to the nova valley business. finally commissioner o'brian served with transmission atkins as commission president and vice president in 2012 for those wraenz the small business commission comprehends the commissioner o'brian for a sellless service in the city of san francisco and with you will to thank you you're mentorship. when i came on this commission and our guidance i couldn't have done that without the help you received from you and so

congratulations (clapping) and then anyone want to say a few words? >> yes. go ahead. so luke i want to extend my great appreciation you think for your gowns and a direction and all the feedback you provided to me and staff working on the permitting committee and reviewing legislation as you sat open the policy committee it was great working with you when you were the president of the commission so you made any job a lot easier i want to extend my appreciation i too will miss you >> you go ahead. >> i just wanted to say it was a short period and i hope by

sitting next to you didn't make you make your decision it was nice working with you. >> luke we miss you already so don't be a stranger and a come to our meetings. thank you >> i think you still owe me some beers (laughter). >> what to say a few words. >> i'll keep it brief thank you for this presentation i feel privileged to have it and proud of my associates with the small business commission. i think the work of the small business commission is extremely important the small business community is the most vulnerable of all the community that people can look to for help when they

want to resolve programs and generate new rules and regulations. it was a pleasure and i enjoyed working with you friend or that's not the right word but the people who have the same political and not so like any political viewpoints thank you, very much. >> you've got to do the group picture luke.

(laughter). >> i'm going to take a couple. okay 1, 2, 3. >> next item, please. >> next item is item 5 discussion and possible action to make an ax to the board of

supervisors height code restrictions on electronic cigarettes. and we have mr. president, victor supervisor to supervisor mar and others. to present on this item >> welcome. >> good afternoon everyone thank you for inviting us here again, we're here to talk about the e cigarette ordinance and give us some presentations with uscf and others. the ordinance itself was introduced last december right before christmas it's with gone through the rule and it is coming up with the safety committee next thursday. the ordinance itself is designed

to basically bring the regulations of e cigarettes to the same as tobacco you can't use it indoors like in bars and restaurants this will apply and extend to e cigarettes. we've seen in the past two years the e cigarette is industry has put in a lot of money to expand their business so the products varies a lot like the types of device and the types of solutions the people are inhaling and it's nick tin based there's a lot of misinformation out there. it's targeting a lot of the youth we've seen a huge increase

with the folks from 18 to 21. i believe we can have numbers it's doubled in the pathologist to years. and so that's we're hoping to expand and also in terms of the sales of it it will basic mean that folks who are going going to sell the cigarettes should have a tobacco license. 90 percent of the folks in the industry that sell e sticks have a tobacco license it's not a huge change a lot of them are sold at the mom and pop stores 13 there's 1 hundred and 50 of those stores in san francisco and also working with the youth we want to make sure that this does become a new cultural or

inhabitable habit towards the young adults in social because the fda and they've passed laws to prevent tobacco on tv and magazines. however, this last year because the e sticks are not fda regulated there's been a increased advertisements on tv and radio online that's attracting a youth or younger generation of smokers so that's basically, my general overview i'm going to turn it over to derrick smith and a experts behind me. thank you

>> victor i'm a health educator i'm with the tobacco free project we want to give you information basically you might not be knowledgeable some folks are unaware so a general idea i don't think your projector is on i'm sorry, i didn't mention that. it's big enough you can see there's a couple of parts it's an electronic advise that has a favor of nicotine and it turns 0 it into an air sole. it happens to light up and this whole varieties of flavors of

contents how much nicotine and the flavor a whole bunch of lime and coconut and cherry and a lot of them we find likely are being marketed towards young people. it's not picking up a banana flavor but their switching to that flavor. there's crazy flavors walk bubble gum and cotton candy. there's a lawsuit where the food and drug administration want to limit this this is a tobacco product so you're aware the industry is saying it's a tobacco product hence the supervisors having to adapt a

license and treat that as cigarettes. they're really new and if you haven't heard about them there are no rules about content and production and sales it's for that reason most the retailers in san francisco sell tobacco and they probably already have a license. a lot of other cities have taken this city new york and boston and chicago have similar ordinances and la is hearing this this afternoon. this could be used in this choofrp and there's no prohibition against that it can be used no muni and bart and

even in schools virtually anywhere except our hospitals will as well as at&t ballpark chose to adapt a no e cigarette. to let you know that the department of health has gotten comments particularly stores that customers are coming planning there's no such law right now so those businesses included by the name of has contacted us we have tenant that have questions about this. and as i said schools are reporting ban in a flavored product or strawberry is being

used in the classroom. if you haven't heard about this product most folks haven't it's over the radio wave or television folks who are trained to seat belt product. so the doctor will take the research which doesn't come out to the general public. so dr. is next >> good afternoon. i'm a research at the university of california san francisco. as was mentioned the research is coming out there's a lot of research and looking at the big picture i want to highest 3

easier by youth, where the e he cigarettes harm. we know that the all those flavors like ban in a or gummy bear they appeal to the use and advertisements looking at those in the 070s they appeal to youth we feel that the youth among kids high school students has grown a lot between 2010 and 2011 the rates doubled and while most of those kids use e sethsdz cigarettes about 10 to 20 percent start their nicotine addiction with those cigarettes. a lot of the smokers say those e cigarettes are great and they

help them quit. you'll here a lot of stories like that we looked at how the cigarettes are used on the national letter and used a survey and found out how the e cigarettes are really used they don't help smokers quit your chances don't increase if you use the e cigarettes. third a lot of people say oh, it's harm also water vapor this aerosol is harmless we have studying studies that demonstrate that second-hand aerosol has many toxics acetone and others. second-hand vapor contains fine and ultra fine parcels of heavy

metals. they are small and having they can penetrate into the lungs and blood and into the central never been system and it contains nicotine. research shows if you're standing next to someone breathing the aerosol your level of nicotine in one study were comparable to the level of second-hand smoke and neck 10 is not harmless on its own it's particularly harmful for pregnant women. so e sethsd emit in the environment and in the clean

indoor air is harmful. research is emerging and we're seeing the youth uptake where we see mixed results in terms of whether or not it helps people quit and it's not a harmless vapor. thanks >> good afternoon, commissioners i'm with the youth leadership institute we work with youth people throughout the city and e cigarettes came up as one of the issues that our youth cares about in the bayview and tenderloin etc. a few status tobacco companies actually control the vast majority of the e cigarette

market. last year the city was vabld as a $2 billion industry and is growing. another fact there is a lot of marketing dollars into their product $201,220,800,000 and it's gone up draefk. the largest is owned by laura ladder and in he remembers of youth uptake there's been a doubling in the number of users in the last two years in 20114.6 tyrannies were using and it is definitely being market toward children and youth. i'm going to show you some adds.

so like this is an ad that says it tastes and smokes better than a real cigarette. here's another one i've got bad habit but smoking isn't one of those. my favorite is say why quiet and it says nobody likes a quieterer so switch today. here is a van i will cupcake e cigarette and a cherry by blue. here's a list of some of the most importantly flavor camel and mar burrow flavor those are

being specifically market to youths those products. you know, laws that regulate traditional adds don't get applied so those maybe on television with the schools using e session. despite the u.n. known agents half of the youths say they'll try e cigarettes if a friend offered one. it could be a combau for other tobaccos there's more than 2 hundred and 50 brands and may or may not the e sects is the same way that cigarettes are being

advertised >> thank you commissioners comments are questions. commissioner riley >> yes. i have a question where can people buy those e cigarettes like wall green how can people get them. >> so there are those places like 7 leveling and mom and pop stores and gas stations. >> i guess want to say oftentimes they're sold in costco people come in and decide whether or not they're going to buy cigarettes or e cigarettes.

so we did mention there's a lot of chemicals inside the varpdz >> yes. there are a lot of chemicals so a lot of times the augment is made their safer than that cigarette and that's true the chemicals are lower but there's still a lot of chemicals that are there. >> we still want to say it's harmful for people around them. >> yes. even knowing there's those chemicals about that have been known for people have there. >> how expensive or cheap affordable are they. >> sometime wrought-up costco. we have photos they're sold next

to pep to about his month and their spies i didn't hot we're aware the industry says we're a tobacco product and there's confusion about whether or not they're helping people and researches are saying they're not helping. here you see the pricing when our buying in bulk enjoy the disposable it's a one hundred and 27 pack that leads to another issue each one has a battery and motor and cartridge this is $165 and for enjoy itself less like those packs i shouted earlier. there are rechargeable that goes

up you buy the filter and it contains the nicotine but the cheap disposable ones those start at the 6 or 7 or $8 >> right now they need a license. >> no regulation about the use or sale of e cigarettes in the state of california or san francisco except you can't sell them legally to a minor. without a local rail license that is connected to e cigarettes we can't do any local enforcement so we work with the plod there are a handful of sellers who sell to the youth but in san francisco we can't do

anything around the illegal sales around minors yet so singularly the abducting can't apply any punishment of selling to a minor. commissioner >> would this apply to they sometimes market them without flavor would that apply as well as. >> the ordinance language day a device that has a liquid cartridge so part of the rationale for the ordinance isn't just the nick 10 months say it looks like a cigarette so not like in the 1980s you could smoke in the market platt place.

people want to know in the 1960s, 44 percent was for smoker the areas and now it's like 14 percent. it would tachyapply i haven't seen a lot of cases were people are just selling those. i think they're often for sale with places that sell them they try to give the option of selling to their customers >> commissioner dooley. i wanted to comment i'll quite familiar with this product i have a friend who's a chain-smoker my own experience about her challenging people to buy at restaurants. i think it needs to have some kind of regulations i'm

uncomfortable sitting with here she's like come on coma i'm going to smoke in her >> i appreciate that comment because we receive a lot of questions most of the public say there's got to be a law about this. >> the buyers i've noticed more and more buyers are using. >> right that's going to continue to be a challenge as they pick up. what we see now i've mentioned laura it's a new port brand that lights up like over half of the online market but other companies are not there yet we anticipate those products will show up and you'll see them a