we'll be contemplating that as we look at expenditure changes and closing the deficit as well as putting more muni service on the streets. our two big things within muni. we have similar issues throughout the rest of the agency the controllers do audit of a number of years ago identified inadequate staffing and the signage and some of the other assets and starting making progress there we need more progress we're under budgeting the enforcement overtime. that he there are many other communications that span out that's a big opportunity we've not adequately resources in the

past we'd like in this budget to make progress on. we're here a lot today about the revenue side and things were there might be reductions and wanted to make sure that we kept in mind also the expenditure needs or wants that we want to contemplate to advance our strategic goals particularly the two transit goal. that's what's on the table in summary form for the operating budget now a quick walk through the capital budget and a. on the capital budget i'm going to focus on two slides slide 21 the overall numbers for

2015-2016. the most important thing the numbers assume the voters will approve the g o bond up to two hundred million and the other bond. the last slow down i want to focus on is our last slide of the presentation which gives us an idea of what might happen in the voters don't approve it similar to what director reiskin did on the operation slide we'll have issues about reliability and implement the t p capital budget and declining infrastructure that's united states a dire picture. also the last bullet is t pc has a grant they match us every dollar for two we could lose the

matching program if we can't develop a matching program. with that >> if i can add to that. there was an earlier comment we'll hear more about the recommendations of the task force which was for capital funding vs. operational funding. the assets we have the buses and trains and switches and signals and overhead wires have in the been maintained at the level to keep them fully in service. the task force will enable us to make strides to bring those assets into a good strategist repair without adding a single bus or driver will effectively

help us to increase the vehicles on the street because there will be less in repair shop and spend more on services rather than relieving a bus that's broken down on the street. there's a relatively relationship brown the operating side and the service side that's the basis for the task force recommendations before we build expands onto the house make sure with the wiring and plumbing is in good shape if we expand the house we'll have more function problems. the - if the measures not got get to the ballet we'll continue

to spend more time deterring operating dollars to emergency repairs and addressing crowding because of broken down buses and therefore we might want to think about the timing of the changes in the budget my think about making some changes in january deferring some of the proposals to january once we know better how much of our operating budget might be freed up from the emergency repairs and the infrastructure vs. the - our need to continue to deferring operating dollars that could be providing service than funding our maintenance needs >> as we go forward i want to ask the city attorney to look into the questions earlier

seeing the american act would preclude the means testing. could you look at that for us. that's a significant issue. any other members of the board. i know we have a number of friends who are here for the free muni for 18-years olds we appreciate you being here today. >> i believe that the budget analysis office is here to present an audit on the topic.

>> give me one minute it's not loading perhaps we should visit the public and come back to this. i'll precede. is your presentation ready. it is short; right? >> chair north korean from the budget analysis office we prepared an analysis on the cost of the fro muni for the youth

program at the questioning request of supervisor campos. he asked us to look at the participation in the program and potential revenue sources for continuing the program on, on ongoing process and if the program were expanded to include all 17 years old regardless of income to include 18-years old in the program and then to survey and get results on the impact on ridership and other benefits from the program. i will give you a quick summary. the full report i believe has been provided to you and is available on our website as well. this first slide shows participation we looked at the

first 3 months to march 2013 through may. and the program continued on after that but we had data we got from mta staff to make an assessment. we assumed the estimate number of youth between the ages of 5 and 17 of which 240 thousand had signed up for the program as of may 31st, 2013. we got some updated information inform and that number is 78 percent of the eligible youth in san francisco. i'll run through the numbers because they're not showing up on the screen. the costs we came up with the

current pilot program for t 5 to 17 years old is 5.7 plus million dollars. for the current program we objected the cost information it's the lost revenue of $2.5 million and we assumed temple percent participation looking at the first 3 months

and assumed the program would expand as more people became familiar with it. to add all 5 to 17 years old the second number is it adds another 2 point three or four million dollars a year. it's a big jump it represents fewer youth but youth have been riding more so the revenue loss to mta would be greater so all the 5 to 17 years old is a $5.29 million. to include 18 years old in place is 1.1 million as shown there on the chart. and that then to add all other 18 years old regardless of income increases t the cost

mortar a grand total of 1.8470 million. the bottom fabulous is for you'll 5 to 18-years old regardless of income 67.7 million. supervisor campos has asked us to identify the non revenue services this was before the all the time was announced for the fund for the next few years three of those require the vehicle license fee has i have no speaker cards and allowed by state law if it's approved in november that will go up and we've worked with the dmv for

6.78 million and, of course, that number will go up as vehicle values increase. and the sales increase is 2.9 percent in the mayor's office task force recommendation that about generate $73 million a year those are greatly in excess of what we need so a piece of it could be looked for youth. this would be something separate from the fees being charged from the use of bus stops and the pilot program currently in place so it will require voter approval potentially to generate revenue for the program. besides that we identified the gentle fund as the board of

supervisors approved additional funding for ongoing support for the program and two one time sources and grants the metropolitan transportation and the clean air from the bay area quality control division >> are you going to wrap up we've got a lot of folks. >> i won't go through this we've got surveys that identified the clipper cards and the number of youth riding metropolitan with the card and a lot of information is to preliminary but the ridership data from the clipper cards but the information it unknown in terms of the cash. we have options in the report

that anywhere what i described looking for the revenue sources and those are directed to the board of supervisors to advocate for potential expansion of the program if they're interested in that and revenue sources to follow. that's the conclusion >> thank you. i see we've been joined by supervisor campos. >> good afternoon supervisor (clapping.) thank you very much mr. vice president and commissioners director reiskin i want to thank the budget analysis for the amazing report. i'm here to note a couple of points i'm sure you're aware of the mta particular just received a generous gift from google that will fund the exiting fro fro metropolitan for low income youth for muni for two years.

besides the act it's generous and the largest gift that the city has received in it's history i think the fact that all the things that a company like google could have focused on is a testament to the success of this initiative. if anything i think it pertains to the need for us to have a much long term discussion about how we make this program preempt permanent and how we expand this program. so the influx of nope e money from google provides a benefit to have a discussion about what happens after the two years because this gift is only a two year gift to make sure this program is a permanent part of the mtas budget and also to how

to include 18-year-old seniors high school seniors that turn 18 awhile still in high school. and then i think it presents an opportunity for this agency to have a conversation about the inclusion of low and middle income seniors and disabled individuals. i think the lessons we're leader learned from the program to expand the concept to include other other groups that are also impacted by the same challenges that led us to create f this program for the low income youth. i'll say this step by google provides an important first step in a larger discussion of how we have a discussion with the tech industry so that's community and tech working together on those

issues. i think this is a sign that the tech industry is committed to being a part of the solution. the challenge is to make sure the community is at the table and whatever those solution look like. i believe that right now the community has had a too limited involvement because there being a brought in after the fact that's make sure the community is at the table as the examinations are happening >> thank you, supervisor clapping. now public comment >> so i'll read several names at once so people could a line up. is ms. nickels here? (calling names.) and mr. chairman we have a few members

of the public that are in the over enroll room but have not indicate an interest in talking. >> sorry i'm iris i've been in the mission for 20 years gray hairs a hair a strong supporter of muni youth many of us have been working on this community groups and a community people. a big part of this is quality especially with the evictions going up in the city and the rents going up it's harder for low income families to stay in san francisco and pay for muni. it's been stressfully for the youth to get on the bus this was before the pilot program was free to get on the bus

especially in the low income community. one student turned 18 and because of language issues she explicit realize she didn't qualify and an inspector found out her two days after her birthday she was traumatized but the school district got the if that waved. in 2012 i was a study scare they said it was $9.4 million for the inspector program and that 89.4 million could be used not to punish riders that includes a permanent - is that it. a fee muni for youth i support seniors especially the low

income seniors was that half or >> it's right in front of you. >> i should know by now all those years. well that's it >> next speaker please (calling names). >> good afternoon ms. trainer. i'm betty tape recorder i'm president of the board of seniors and disability action. the senior disability action sports the fro muni for youth both for the 18 years old and the permanent. now, of course, i'm here to speak for the fro muni for seniors and persons with disabilities in particular. i'm sure you've heard speakers prior we had a very large relay outside phone number on van ness

avenue. we need this for the seniors we know the vast majority of seniors are very low income. maybe most are just living on their social security and this includes the person's with disabilities. i was happen to hear you're considering this and to hear the revenue report that there are ways you can fund this. the vehicle licenses and other things make sense. and also beside google we have a lot of other tech companies we can approach so maybe this is something we can bring up to twitter and thank you very much and please consider this >> thank you very much. next speaker. >> (calling names). >> any of those folks here? good afternoon >> good afternoon michael lion

i've been her 40 years. lack of income should not be a reason for no muni downtown the buildings would be useless businesses pay nothing for this and they should be paying this every year they pay a one-time transit impact fee it's too low and it belts waved all the time you need to get that money. make free muni for all permanent and extend it to imagine a 18 and for seniors and low income folks and stop harassing the riders and no stopping of bus stops >> thank you. next speaker (clapping) (calling names). >> good afternoon hi, i'm sarah

green wall a member of a anti climate organization. but muni is better than cars. there's a reason why certainty high tech companies donated they want to be popular with their future consumers and muni has to expedite with cars that's in your interests so for that reason i know the means test may not be a good idea then the free test can be from free poverty. the popcorn in the officer who uses public transit is, you know, that's the poor people you certainly don't want to encourage that we want our young

people to gripe being proud it's not only in the interest of the city because we don't want students dropping out of the school it's in the interest of muni >> thank you very much. next speaker please (calling names). >> good afternoon. good afternoon gentlemen and ladies i'm the director of the organization for the seniors. we definitely do support of the kids being able to ride the busses without having to pay for businesses especially for people living in poverty and a lot of us are in that direction i want to give a big shout out for google for their implementation that's important our kids get to school without having to pay their way there.

gentlemen, when i was giving our report you mentioned general inflation it's tearing everybody apart and i'm in in favor with the seniors and folks with disabilities taking part in this program i live on $130 a month food and clothing and shelter is at an all-time high we were priced out four years ago. the situation search warrant seniors 4 times a month once a week stand in food lines and turn around and have to come back to market street to sell free food in order to give you $23 a month. if we can give them some

attention and make theirs permanent we've got to find a way to do this they've been priced out we need to get them resolved in this program, too, and maybe you can gift this some compassionate thought. thank you very much for having me >> thank you very much (calling names.) (clapping.) >> good afternoon ms. martin. >> hi, jan from power i don't know if everyone heard tom earlier everybody who supports free muni race our hand. we're happen for the google donation and hopefully, this will cover the cost including the 18 years old and include the seniors and folks with

disabilities as well we want to say the pilot is over and it's time to make the program permanent the program is a success the mayor said it. the mta will no longer balance the budget on the backs of low income working families trying to get their kids to school. we really want to partner with the mta and move forward but we need to know as a community the program we've worked for is sure. we don't want to be come back her when the budget year is for metropolitan it's harder for working families we want to see if you can introduce a revision that low make a commitment going forward. we've been part of the ongoing

conversations with director reiskin about the future funding measures and looking at entity we're happy to be part of that that would going go 0 a long way if we know the future you have muni for youth was secure >> i think i should mention for the sake of the folks the board is not going to be taking action it will be on the 14 is the public and the first time is april 1st for the action. >> we'll listening to the troy. >> i'm an outreach worker and i'm here today on behalf of all the youth in san francisco and low to moderate income and the

disabled in the city. we try to get to school everyday i'm 22 now but when i was 167 i got ticketed for not paying my fair on the muni. i wanted to go to school and to become a successful person like you guys today. a really big reason why chalk supports this youth are trying to get to school instead, they get tickets and get throne to joyfully and that's not fair for the young people in the school we're trying to lower than and get our education. there's a growing population in the prison sector and this is a - it plays a big part in stopping youth from going to prison and jail. yeah. i really support this program