>> good afternoon,

>> good afternoon and, i would like to thank you for hearing us, and back when i was going to school, it cost a quarter, and which is not a problem, but, you know, two bucks, and

you paid the two bucks, and the transfer is useless by the time that you get out of school and so that is another two dollars to get home. and i think, that if we can make it free for them, and then we can make it free-for-all of the citizens. and especially the youth, which is really who i am her. you guys can look at gargameland give back to the youth and it is not enough to invest in the youth and it is free for the techies and so that we can invest in the city and so i think that investing in education and in this way, is a small concession, that we can make, and like camp os said, this is a way to be the community and one of the small ways and this is a way, partially, to get the media off of ed le e's back and how the

tech s, that are not doing anything for the community and let's make the strives in that direction, and i don't want to take too much time, brenna and aliza z. those are the last two people. >> good afternoon. >> pull the microphone down. >> thank you. >> and good evening, everybody and i hope that you guys have been having a fantastic evening as i am. and i want to thank the commissioners first of all for coming down here and or i don't know if you guys, volunteering your time or getting paid for this but i want to thank you guys and i want to thank everyone in the audience for coming here and i am a senior in high school but i am with the youth, which is a youth group, and which stands for the

motivating of,... movements of organizing justice and we work around the area and our most prominent campaign is to save the city colleges of san francisco and right now, i want to let you guys know that i have the test and but i am taking out my time here to advocate for this, cause and i want to share that, it was really helped me to explore the other areas of san francisco, but my parents, are pretty oblivious about and they working class jobs and this is my home and i want to be aible to explore the city and like, absorb all of the culture that it has to offer me and i also want to point out, a bigger picture, that this program will provide, they have the driver license but then they still don't drive and you might ask why? because they have the service and program offered to them. it is simple economics, if you lower the cost for something the demand for this service

will be high and her because we have this problem, the bigger picture that i am trying to point out is that the less cars will be in the area and you are supporting, essentially a generation of non-drivers and people that actually use the public transportation, with less cars and there is less, and less admitted and that is an important cause that we should stand behind. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. >> good afternoon, and good evening. >> where do you go? >> i am currently a sophomore and i live in the portola an hour bus ride away and i don't have the luxury of getting a ride to school every day and so i will have to take the bus and another problem with that is 75 cents for each bus ride is a bit bunch seeing as i am living in a single parent household and i have cousins that recently moved in with me

because the family immigrated to america. so, their income is basically non-existent right now and they have two children that are twins that both have to attend school in china town, which is also an hour away from where i live and staying with my mom right now because they don't have the means to find a house and they have yet to have the money to find them another place to stay as well. and so 75 percent, i mean, 75 cents for each kid, is too much for them as well. and they are currently only 9 years old and so they are going to need this free program for a long time and so i am seeing that this should be permanent, not just for me but for all of the other kids out there nowadays and that is going to make a long commute to go to school from home and then there is also the problem with just going to school and back home that is not enough, because everybody needs extracurricular activities to be considered to get into a good college and so if they have to pay every time that they leave the house just to attend some extra curriculum

activity, it will be too much and it would make it difficult for them to get the life that they deserve and turn them into robots because they will not be able to live the house as much and i am saying that this is a big issue if it is not made free or permanent, thank you. >> that will conclude the public hearing, this afternoon, members of the board, at this point, would i like to say a couple of things in advance. >> pardon me. >> there are more people. >> okay. bruce will be the last speaker. >> good afternoon. director. >> good afternoon. >> directors. >> and first of all, let me say, congratulations, for even considering this because it is

something that i believe is long overdue. and believe it or not, i know director riskin and i met a month ago and i have some or a proposal to make. and that might add to more dollars to the city here. and because i think in terms of those of us who can afford to pay for muni, should pay for muni. and i think for people with disabilities and seniors and students. you know, we have to be supportive of all of these

groups to vitalize our city. riding muni should be a real pleasant experience. and believe me, over the years, the majority of what i take have been very, very rewarding. and believe it or not, i believe that if we pay what we could afford to pay, i think that i would add, enough money into the kitty, to actually make these programs stay in place forever. >> so, this is what i am going to propose, and i will e-mail my proposal to the director riskin. and let me know how much money. >> thank you. >> how much money it will generate. >> thank you,. >> let's do. >> now the public hearing is

closed. >> at this point, i want to and i would like to say something, to especially to the young people who came here today. i really hope that every san franciscan is watching channel 76 and 78 i think that you will be inspired about the future and incredibly thoughtful remarks for everyone in the story and the mothers stories and so many stories are touching and that is what it is about and i appreciate you can out here this afternoon and in terms of i ask each board member to say a few words in terms of the budget for the staff going forward. and i would like to begin that by saying, first of all, i have always viewed this job, and as a commissioner and somebody asked if we were paid, not really. the commissioners are not. >> so, but our job is to look out for the city as a whole. that is the charge. but, along with that to be mindful in special areas and population and special considerations, and that is the

balancing act that the board has to do and the second principal that i bring to this discussion that i hope for all of these is that muni and mta itself and it is so important for this city, and it is important for everybody in the city. but, it is most important for those who need it most. and my mind the testimony here this afternoon, and then before the youth and i hope very much we could do the low income seniors, and disabled persons as well and i extend this to the people who are 18 and i would add my voice to those who are opposing a $6 fare to the fline as a little guidance here. and as we go, and going forward, so much of the budget is based on the hope and the prediction that we will be able to pass these budget measure thises fall and i hope that several of the organizations have offered support for that and it is really important going forward that the city as a whole, unite behind these because it is good for these programs, and it is good for the system as a whole and

therefore, the entire city. so with that, vice chair, we have... >> yes, thank you to everybody who showed up to talk on this issue. it is really good to hear from you all and i always enjoy seeing all of you come down here and so i do appreciate it. i agree with chairman nolan and i think that keeping the free muni for youth, including students who are 18 and still in school and extending it for low, moderate income seniors and the disabled i think is really, to your point, what we are about at this transit agency, which is helping people who we need to help the most. i think that as i look through the possible revenue sources and the possible things that we wanted to extend it on, i noticed a couple of things that i think of as sort of policy issues and things that are more affordability issues so that will include the free muni for the low, income youth and seniors and people with disabilities.

i think that the proposal that we had to eliminate the in-person customer service center fee, which eliminates that $3 processing fee and i am looking at an old document that actually had the things kind of labeled out. those are two of the affordable things, and for the sunday street parking elimination, i understand the citation rate on that is an issue, do we know, and i have the memo on sunday parking meters do we know is it higher on sunday and has that sort of gone down across the year? i am confused about the citations on that. >> it is quite a bit higher on sundays and i think that the initial data shows that 55 percent of the revenue came from the citations on sunday, which is quite a bit higher than it is on other days of the week whether it is coming down over the year, i don't know. i could get that information for you and the memo may have stated and if not, it can get you what the citation rate.

>> and i can't remember. >> i think that it will decline over time if we were to leave it in place. >> i don't remember seeing if that was coming down or not, so that was interesting to know and if that citation rate, or if we expect to see them all come down as the new meters get implemented and i am thinking about the things that you did mention and that we want to perhaps, consider, implementing some things after we know what has happened in november, and to my mind making the free muni for youth, permanent would be one of those things that would i actually like to wait and discussion after we kind of know what our finances are going to be for the long term future and a better idea of what we will be able to afford for the youth and senior and persons with disabilities. >> a couple of things that stuck out to me were policy changes and the monthly a, plus, increase and the bart

pass through and that seems like something that we may want to do as a policy change and that increases the apass, two dollars above the index price and covers the bart pass increase per trip and implement the interagency fair discount it creates a single policy for all of the agencies and that kind of cleans up and level the playing field, for certain things. those are the only things that i have and again i do like the idea of maybe there are things that we implement or age in implementation after november, there is so much riding in november that i am hesitant to stick out our necks in spending until we know what we are able

to spend. >> the indexing and i support that and that is a good policy. >> how about you? >> i want to thank everyone for coming, and testifying, and you know, it is very compelling what you are saying. and the messages is heard loud and clear. but a couple of concerns that i have is on the indexing, one is that there is a look that was the bag meter, and i know that we are in an indexing and... >> she is not. and i would like to say that there is an all day bag meter we are only charging 7 dollars. >> i think that when we looked at this a few years ago, if you assume or if you take the average, meter cost and you assume the full usage of the day it will be quite a bit higher, it will be at the time, it was 22 dollars, verses the five that we were charging. so we did start to increase it and we heard some concerns, from some of the organizations that are subject to it, but it

is certainly something that we could look at and there is room, in other words, for us to make that closer to approximating the actual foregone revenue. >> i think that the other adjoining cities, have a higher rate in terms of their bagged meters and also when i take a look at contract or permits if you look at it for the year, it is 3 dollars a day, it is what the rate comes out to be for parking at the meters. >> yeah. i think that those permit fees are set based on the cost of us to administer the cost of the program and i am not sure that how they distinguish between the use of the meters spaces or not. >> i think that it is based on an assumption of an average, between, some portion of their time at metered spaces or a portion not and i am not sure that we will have the leeway on that. >> because we have to see that as a prime parking location that is taken and giving up for

$3. >> okay. >> other than that, i support, you know, the we have the leeway that we can breathe thanks to google but the question is how can we fund this in the future that we don't come to a researching stop in two years and saying that we can't do it? >> that i think it will just become part of the budget, and reduced revenues.

>> okay. >> i want to thank everybody for being here for those of you who are leaving before we finish up. and i want to thank the staff for pushing the meeting back to accommodate us so that these folks could be here today. and but i think that we... [ speaking in a foreign language ] >> i want to thank the mothers and the testimonies are powerful and i am grateful that they answered the call to come, and i think that it is clear that with the mayor saying that he appreciated the success of the program and it is something that we should be making permanent and we should find ways to do that.

my next phone will be google and i want to express my gratitude for them for putting us in a position where we don't have to discuss as to whether or not we should do this at all, because it is here, we will be doing it for the next two years and had we be absent that donation, we will be having a conversation about whether or not not to make it permanent or to have it at all. it is money that we have to find and that being said, i really want to emphasize the challenge that we are up against, with the respect to funding something if we make it permanent and our infrastructure is a mess right now, we experience the delays seemingly on the regular, and i straightened my alerts out and i am now getting the text alerts. and the way that i should be

and i appreciate the staff, for following through and helping me through that. because now i am getting alerts and it seems that the infrastructure is falling apart and i thank you for the definition and why are we delayed and it is communications, trains on communication, and communicating with one another, and doors are failing, and things like that, and that translates into money that we spend on over time, or other things that then we can't afford things like maintenance or operators and it turns into over time, that takes away money from things like free muni for youth. and so that being said, i think that it is absolutely critical that we win in november and we figure out how we can save the money to be able to pay for things in the long term like the things that most of us here so far agree that i do support which is expanding the program to include people with

disabilities and our seniors. this go around around, i want to include the 18-year-olds, and that is absolutely something that i think that we should have done earlier and i am glad that we have the opportunity to visit it, or revisit it, with that google donation that we don't have to budget, paying for the premuni loan for for the next two years which is fantastic. >> i am also in support of indexing the fares and this is a hard thing to do, nobody likes to increase anything, but the sad reality is that the cost of living goes up every year, whether it is the fuel or it is benefits that we offer and the good job that we provide to our operate and hers employees, and everything goes

up and because we stop and suddenly the price is so huge that the jump itself going from 50 percent increases or 75 percent increases or put off putting that, it creates a whole lot of political turmoil that i think that any of us would want to deal with or our predecessors or the people that... our success ors i should say. so i support that finally i want to say that i also like the idea of incentive the cliper cards, if you are not on it yet, you need to get in with the program, it is like you are in a transit only lane with the cost that you are causing the system. the delay of dwelling and the time that it takes to get on board and those of us that are residents and don't have cars and are relying on transportation, really need a cliper card and if the incentive is to create a little

bit of a higher fee for the cash fares and to get rid of the cash fares and to get on the card which is part of a win, win. >> and i think that is probably enough of my comments. >> thanks. >> director, how about you? >> thank you. >> chairman nolan and i will go in the order that director riskin presented these things to us which may not be as exciting as it could be. but, i question, i noised a budget item for $2 million in litigation cost and i believe as we as a board eliminated insurance for this agency, there was discussion that in addition to the line item there would also be a set, reserve that would essentially be a self-insurance pool, is that in the budget as well. >> absolutely tha, is the budget and what you see is a reduction, by $2 million in the

anticipated. and we are funding that in lieu of the policy and presuming to do that in this budget and that is in addition to satisfying our reserve policy in generally. >> that is separate from the operating reserve of 10 percent which is funded at ten percent and it is proposed to stay at 10 percent. >> great, thank you. >> i will say, it is not the most glamorous issue, but i am very gratified by my colleague's response to the indexing of fares and as tom knows that as i pushed it through and the other s pushed it through and i was a lead advocate for something that is not glamorous at all. >> thank you. >> and that makes me less glamorous. >> okay. >> and it was because as director says that we need to keep up with the cost of living and inflation adjustments but it was also