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anticipated. and we are funding that in lieu of the policy and presuming to do that in this budget and that is in addition to satisfying our reserve policy in generally. >> that is separate from the operating reserve of 10 percent which is funded at ten percent and it is proposed to stay at 10 percent. >> great, thank you. >> i will say, it is not the most glamorous issue, but i am very gratified by my colleague's response to the indexing of fares and as tom knows that as i pushed it through and the other s pushed it through and i was a lead advocate for something that is not glamorous at all. >> thank you. >> and that makes me less glamorous. >> okay. >> and it was because as director says that we need to keep up with the cost of living and inflation adjustments but it was also for another reason.
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that if we debate each fare and each fee, individually, it creates a moras and more than just a moras for us procedurally it create as a situation where some of us in our community are being arbitrary and that is a dangerous perception and i am glad that there is a positive respond to indexing and i am glad that it is working and i remain a strong proponent tf and i don't think that we should deviate on any of the fares, and particularly the express routes, and unless there is a policy reason to do it, not a budgetary reason, if you were to come back and say that the maintenance and the upkeep and the service associated with the fline rides is so much greater, that we would charge the single time losers and not the cliper card users not the people who are using it for every day transit that is a policy reason to support that and i am very much in favor of sticking with the indexing and very much opposed to any change unless there is
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an overwhelming policy reason because once we go down that road there will be invitations to do it on all other sorts of fares. >> on the free muni for low income youth, i will just join the praise to the staff, and the agency and frankly the city as a whole and the people who pushed for it on the success that it has been and there are so many positive attribute to this and one enrollment level. >> shows, that we accomplished what we set out with supervisor campos to accomplish which was a program that the people would not feel a barrier to entry and one of the concerns about having it be a low income program and the people might feel a barrier to entry and that is not the case and i think that the staff deserves to heat it for our direction, and to make it so that there is no barriers to entry and this is building us, you know, a life long transit riders and we
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are opening up the system to people who will be life long transit riders and that is a benefit by the passage of time that is much greater with the youth riders than any of the other groups that we are talking about. finally, in a thing that is personal to me is fat they are of three in the city and i think that this helps us as you and i have discussed chairman, address this perception that san francisco is not family friendly, we want to be and i think that this is a good way to address this. >> this may surprise some people, i think that we should look at making this program, the low income youth, free muni permanent, i think that we need to figure out a way to do this, and i think that we need to be very mindful of director's mineful comments that we have to look for funding for this and i think that i am ready in my mind to shift the pparadigm that i will do it if you help us find the funding to this is something that we should want to do and we will help you find
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the funding for it. >> i am in favor for expanding it to 18-year-olds in high school and whether it is all 18-year-olds or low income or just thosing in high school is whether we can administer it easily that way. that makes sense to me. >> on the broader discussion of using this very successful program, to talk about means testing, or some sort of equality, opportunity, on income for other groups, the proposal has come forward to say that maybe we look at a similar issue for low income. seniors, and low income members of our disability community. i am not opposed to that. but i wonder if we are looking through it through the wrong lens. >> as i have said, there are some very, unique benefits to encouraging younger riders who are going to school and going to be the citizens and bettering themselves and will be life long transit riders and
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there are unique benefits that don't exist with the others and if it is really about income equality, my question is this, could we look at it through a different lens and as you suggested director, remove some of the discount for seniors, and disabled people, that exist today, and obviously benefit those who are not low income. by bumping the senior and disabled fare up to 50 percent of the base fair and then use that to relax the requirements for the life pass. low income across the board. if this is about equality and i think that it should be, on income bases, i don't know why people may recent that and understandable so and talk about this as a more broad
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based and something that we have in the existing and successful life line program and i think that the problem with it right now is the target or the threshold is very difficult one to meet in a very expensive city like san francisco. i think that i am stunned that we are less than 50 percent, and i think that it is great and i will not mind an incentive and i suspect something that is more controversial and there may be a reason to go above the indexing on the flat cash fare and that reason may be to promote the cliper card usage which does a great deal to speed the process. and so we could have a situation where the space fair stays at $2. for cliper card usage and goes to 2.25 for cash usage.
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we might want to look at keeping it at 2 for card and $2.50. and then on the final point, which, i will just put it this way, it was my understanding in the budget process that we will have some options that may relate to make the market street car free and so i know that we are not going to hear that today but i will remind that i think that we were told that we will hear that and that might go to a lot of the larger global comments that we heard from the fellow citizens today. thank you. >> thank you. >> director? >> you have the last word. >> awesome. >> okay. >> well, everyone said, a lot of good things, so that was really helpful for me and thanks to all especially the youth, and the community that spoke today, and i thought that the public comment was high caliber and helpful to our discussion today. so, i agree with the indexing, i just think that is a very easy and kind of a fair and
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kind of it is a fair way to go and the people can expect things and it it is just across the board, and for all of the reasons already discussed and i am in support that have and also not breaking away from it as much as possible unless there is a strong policy reason. and i had a question, as to that and it kind of went to several comments, but the various directors made and one was, specific increasing the youth, senior fare to 50 percent, xh i think, and my understanding is that it is more kind of market, and the more common in other agencies at least, and we would be doing that for the people who could afford to do that and it would not be. >> so what i was putting on the table that would be beyond indexing and if we were to for the free and moderate income and youth and whether it is permanent or not. but to say for the youth, given that that they will be paying
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zero. and in conjunction with that, it would be raising the discounted youth fare for all of the high income youth to up to 50 percent of full fare currently it is a third and the proposal to do that with seniors i was suggesting would be doing in conjunction with making it free for moderate income seniors. >> and people with disabilities. >> but that is that item, inclusive of the people with disabilities? like a disability fare? >> that would be the on the table. >> currently, the discounted fare is for the youth and seniors and people with disabilities and they will pay a third of the full fare on a monthly pass and the proposal, the way to do this, would be is if the board wanted to make muni free for low to moderate
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income and then you will increase the discounted fare to be half of full fare instead of a third. >> i just wanted to see, and so i would support doing that, and also, support i mean that i would like to see the free muni for what is it, definitely support extending it to 18 for the youth program and also i would really support making it permanent and just, working really hard to get funding and because i think when we make a commitment to make something permanent we work hard to get the funding for it because it goes into our operating budget and that is what we are going to do and we have a lot of hard work to do and i know that i appreciate the comments of the vice chair in terms of what happens in november. and i want to do whatever we can to get that permanent. and i would support doing the increase of the 50 percent, reduced fare and in connection with also, ex-stending it for people with disabilities and i do thing it was unique to the
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people with disabilities and seniors that are not necessarily shared with the youth committee and are separate and also unique to the other communities in particular and just the transit dependent nature of the communities and in particular, you have people with disabilities who are going to go on paratransit if they can't access. >> and so there are higher ways that we can address it but i think if we make the transportation as accessible as possible, as many people as possible, in a community that is very transit the seniors and people with disabilities and i would like to see it paired up in terms of balancing it as much as possible. >> i think that everyone else said everything else that i wanted to hit on. >> i know that we are excited to... could i just ask a question that kristine and i
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were actually discussing during the meeting? >> that is what i was going to ask too. >> and have we done an analysis of how much money we get by going to 50 percent and how much that will buy us either in terms of her proposal of low income proposal for disabled or seniors or my proposal of expanding life line, i realize that we may have not and kristine and i. and we have in the staff report, so to yeah, be about two and a half million dollars, increased from a third to up to half senior fares, and the senior and people with disabilities and it is about 8 million dollars, and if we assume half of them and that is about four million dollars and, we don't really have the good data on that and that will northbound the four to six range and so it would not fully pay for it, it will partially pay for it, in terms of the
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life line, it is about 1.3 million estimated to reduce, the life line fare by five dollars so that we could do almost double and reduce it by ten and it would get it down offset at 50 percent discount, to get it to 33 or 67 percent discount, and it is somewhere in the ballpark. >> so that is easier math just that there is a third proposal that i was putting out there is not so much that we reduce the life line rate, but that with the extra money we would relax the requirements. which would bring in more people. >> right now it is 200 percent. >> right, how high could we go and have this... >> that math we have not done and that is what i was getting at. >> well, i was thinking i wanted to ask a related question because it was a question that i had when i was
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looking at this and basisly, when we were talking about, low and moderate income, for all of these programs, my understanding is that we are talking about the same threshold and i was just wondering if you could define the threshold. >> yeah, so i believe, and jane, may recall, this better than i, because i don't have it in front of me, i think that we ended up with 100 percent of average median income but originally we were hoping to go to 120, because of the funding concerns that we had last time around we went to 100. >> just to be clear this is the threshold that we are using for low income use. >> that is correct. >> that is 100 percent of the median income. >> and as i think that you know, unlike the life line program, it is a self-certifying process and so you fill out a form and you certify what your household income is and based on that certification that you sign we make a determination if you are eligible or not. >> as we discussed there were
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policy reasons behind that to make it low cost and more barrier free, correct. >> and the life line and we have a more regulated process. >> correct. >> yes. >> >> and i am glad that you mentioned it. and i have a problem, with that one. >> in the multiple e-mail and that for a lot of people, it is the transit running on that stretch of market. i would be comfortable not increasing that one. i don't know if it is reload loading, but i do want as many
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>> (clapping) hello san francisco. are you having fun yet? yeah. today will not have been possible without the collaboration of the cities family and the community activists i know i wouldn't be able to call everyone there are two pages of individuals who helped but first i want to introduce the board of supervisors.
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applause for your community leaders hello in the back (clapping) so thank you to all of you for making this day together. today we're rising for justice and we still have a lot of things going on for you. thank you (clapping.) i don't hear you i'm sorry. i don't hear you. are we there yet. we have to be really loud and stop violence. at this time i'll welcome the executive director of ebay you know the folks. the global movement to end violence against women and girls the woman who runs ebay
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(clapping.) wow. >> thank you. i want to take a moment to say how fabulous is it is to have fair and reasonable oil people va have dreamed about today about having a space to rise for justice fab oil having our voice her i want to thank you on behalf of all of us (clapping) last year, we rose and demanded an end to violation against women and girls we're calling on men and women he everything else to rise for justice it's a global call for people to gather in places where their entitled
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to justice and government offices and administration buildings and sites of environmental place and place of who were where women deserve to feel safe. image one billion women telling their stories and dancing and telling their stories they need an end to violence against women and girl today 2 hundred countries around the world men and women who love them rose and demanded justice (clapping) and a together with us here. one billion rising for justice is a movement lead by local activists at the direct demands and global solidarity activities
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have been rising non-stop for 40 hours since it's hit the dateline we've been up and activist in berkley and dazzling and london and roam and we've danced so much activity we've trentd on twitter in south africa and facebook now that's a billion people we rise to release our stories there artist we demanded that violence will end and we will work together to explore and dream about just the
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voices beverly and sylvia and krisz 10 have spoken with a true voice and experience you must hear i see this crowd. we have had activist in india today and successor players in peru with homeless women coming together and talking about economic injustice and histories of alcohol liberalism and how those connect together. russel women in south africa have talked about abuse of and pakistan are rising to make sure that men and boys understand mass lubricant a. we have worked and san francisco
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you are truly rising together in berkley and merry listen and palo alto all the area is rising. we've been honored to work with the mayor of san francisco and his incredible team i want to introduce my sister and board member to stand with me as we are rising thank all the 60 community groups who talked and dreamed and where it will lead into the future. we wanted to thank mayor ed lee and his incredible team and others all you amazing activists and people here i'm sorry, i miss printed out that name. and the idea of this event with
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emily when people came together and rebecca and stephanie and the incredible team. i want to thank the department of commission on the statutes of women and this lady's tireless leadership has brought us here today with a community of activist that are enparallel and a staff who has shown up and plastered posters. i want to thank the team of women in mann how far helping people to get the word out hold up your signs. i want to thank emily and our production executive nan net murphy. emily and our board have been
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dancing and dreaming as this has happened throughout the are world i spoke to our team in new york their prepping to rise this evening (clapping) and again, we're here in san francisco and i'm just honored it's my pleasure to introduce to you mayor ed lee who's made this possible today (clapping.) everybody thank you for being here in the great steps of our city hall of san francisco. that means something are you ready to dance? all right.. well, today, at the one billion rising for justice anita and i wanted to join all of you and all the people on stage whom i'm personally proud to work
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together with from the supervisors to all the treasurer and all the elected officers we stand to end violence (clapping) we're doing what we can but you know when i look at those children and today valentine's day pay a lot of special attention to children don't we all. and what i want to be able to say to them we as adults we understand our efforts when we try to succeed in this endeavor and we are somewhat proud we as a city went for 44 months without a homicide.
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yes, that's something to be proud of (clapping.) but as we look at our kids they don't deserve 44 months but 44 years of no violence (clapping) and so not now that those 44 months have tragedyly ended with the latest we have important work to do together recommitted to ending violence not only in our city but join hands with people around the world you, you know, who's watching us? 2 hundred other countries around the world are joining us today (clapping) and so we've got to send the message to end violence in all forms not only violence against women and children and girls but violence on every level is
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unacceptable and making sure that coming out today, we're proud of our city but we're also proud that we have an agenda we can share with each other and do a lot more. so are you all ready to take a pledge? (clapping) . well, this is significant because this pledge means something it means we're not going to settle for 44 months but do to end violence in all forms. we have programs, we've got people on the ground and all the communications we've got not only government but the incredible workers of social services in our community the whole he network we're lucky
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