not many solution without muni securing for fund. there's no better demonstration of this than in the budget presentation that identifies over one hundred million dollars of nodes and the 15 to $20 million annually to address those nodes. there's no way that can happen. sf true feels strong that muni needs to develop the best source of fund and the best one is the vehicle license fee we understand the infrastructure improvements but the significant portion of the d l f it's at the annually occurring source and a significant source of money $70 million it can be passed by

a 50 percent vote of the public and there's nothing liquor that that has the process of addressing that in the future. this is not just an opportunity but a need to secure a source of the vehicle fund. second the number of revenue measures that have been proposed on wants budget presentation frankly it's hard to take those seriously they've developed a relatively small amount of money >> are you talking about the fair increases. >> that i'm not addressing by the deviation like the differentiate fair on the f lion and the differentiate fair open

the express bus is really everything that's in there are items that we don't think are worthy of consideration and it underscores the need for a operating source like the vehicle license fee. third there's one thing you mentioned be that we could be a decrease in revenue and that's some form of incentive or clipper cards uses. or for users regular users of muni who don't use muni often enough to buy a muni pass but should receive a break and the clipper card is a way to encourage that >> fourth i want to talk about did free sunday on the parking proposal which is something sf

truce strongly decide proves of its something that the sfmta can't afford and last i think, you know, there's going to be far more than 16 to towing million demands on the budget but if all possible we want to urge if anything survives like 5 million in fiscal 2014 and 15 for the sir, improvements. thank you >> okay. i'll make one comment. as it was great feedback. i appreciate. with regard to the v l f to the

idea there's kind of no solution in sight i'll oh, that last time around we started out with pretty significant baseline deficits this time we're no surpluses and last time, we took a $50 million abate both it used to be 75 now down to 50 and most of that frankly is due to the health of the economy we know it's not going to stay this way focus but we've been improving the operation position just a point of reference. what else did i want to say in terms of the part of the lodge for the task force recommendations about the infrastructure strengthening

just by fixing our infrastructure we'll provide for service because those buses and trains will stay it on the board which is part of the 2 the 9 billion go to capital and the other general fund provide the means for operating. i also want to note with regard to the additional general fund revenues when he went to the voter with prop b which is a $248 million bond the lion share was one hundred and 40 of that was to pay for the 3 years of the gap in the resurfacing budget to reverse the trends of the condition on our street. we said to the voter and policymakers at the time this

was a one-time stopgap until we identify an ongoing source of revenue so we can teaspoon to get our streets update and a streets that all our transportation depends on and people walking and biotic we need the streets to be in good condition for safety >> the general fund revenue that the vehicle license fee provides 70 or $40 million a year and that gap to keep the paving program at the level it is today is 40 or 45 million to right off the top of the recommendation of the task force will likely be to dedicate more than that half to street surface

and general obligation bond can't pay for any rolling stoke so we can't use obligation bond money so the general fund revenues will be one of the only ways we could have right now to bow more rolling stock. so add some bicycle and pedestrian safety improvements that might not be bond eligible and we've already spent those general fund revenues. and still one thing i didn't mention with the 1.29 million and all other fund from the state and local and we still have a big hole plus what we

expect open mind give us two-thirds of the infrastructure nodes so wee if we put that in murphy we wouldn't be closing the infrastructure nodes and we need to improve that so point well-taken in the long run we may need more sustainable funding that's the logic hunted this. any comments or recommendations criticisms? >> yes. i agree we about the many people that use to come to san francisco are they don't

come into san francisco i think this is a problem for the rider that they or so short in addition for the service for the busses is not liquor you say because i consider i am a muni rider since 903 and most of my friends is short for they decided whether to drive their own cars it's two expensive they will buy one gallon of gas and feel better with safety. and they comedy for travel by the way, the buses is very, very dark i didn't they can't care about nothing and the people is

riding is so many homeless because it's not anything you can sit down in any place that's clean. mostly to be safe open the street it's the longest trip the fairs are going to be increased but the spaces are limited. really i say because i am a rider and i say every time they are more expensive but the service is too bad i think you make a lot of great points and i'll say the number of things you mentioned are

things we want to try to address in order for us to attract more people on muni and if we do it right for people's wallets people need to preserve it's safer and more reliable and more affordable it's clean and attractive and some of the things i've mentioned. we need to hire more people to clean the buses and a transactions the eliminated being no faster than the busses and not getting stuck at the signals. those are things we need to do to make it more attractive for people and make the costs so high or the service poor people don't want to make the choice.

yes, sir. >> my name is a joseph flanagan and i'm on the transportation authority board the citizen's advisory council committee and also the map. i've been take a look rides since august of 2003 of the bus and i've seen some outrageous things one is the people with

developmental disabilities that nodes custodial care they can't find societies and the people that get on board can't make it to t to t to the wheelchair lift to sit down and a enjoy the ride. other thing is the panhandling of other people that are already on the bus walking upside down the israel and taking money from people on the bus. i'd like to this is a very good program i support it. i think that we need to upgrade

the bus service which means having more buses taking the people so we don't have backlogs of people on the bus so that more buses are running and more people can get on the bus safely. the drivers themselves i don't find any problems with that. the drivers do make announcements of the bus saying there's a who ever come on board there's a walker coming and people with capes coming on as well. so the bus drivers are okay. as far as announcements are concerned i've had enormous number of complaints on the

announcements people can't hear the driver making the announcement as and stops from designation to designation. we can improve that by having a better system. so i thank you very much for your time. and those are my questions and comments as well >> thank you very much i'll start where you ended as the drivers. i've come to appreciate since i've had this job the challenge those drivers have an extremely hard job operating those large vehicles itself is considerable

perform and skill but when you add in all the crazy behaviors happening outside and insides the bus as you referred to not having adequate restroom facilities and having vehicles breaking down and really do on extraordinary job our drivers work hard to give good service. there's several room for improvement in terms of announcements and as technology solutions and some investment that that we're striving to make to make the communication technology to be more clear and automated changes and the

security and behavior on the bus we've added more fair inspectors so there are more people working with the police department working with the sense of order. between that and enhancing the cleanliness of the buses we've start to see a behavioral change. there was a comment open the homeless we've recently done this demographic analysis we surveys 22 thousand riders and is results were striking. 24 percent of our riders based on the surveys 22 percent report households incomes of $23,000 or less. 50 percent of our rear view

mirrors reported households incomes of $59,000 are less muni is serving in many cases peep who have limited means are fully transit extent and have whole other issues they're bringing to the transit system that's a great thing we're enabling folks of those income levels to get around. and that's i guess a reminder to us of the safety net role we play in terms of enabling all san franciscans to get around. it comes with collateral impacts like crowding and homeless people and all kinds of things happening on metropolitan. it's our part of safety net

things we are trying to work on those and improve. the more buses we have the more reliable and have them clean and have a decent level of electrocute on them will change things over time >> thank you for that. anyone else? thanks for the warning >> good evening and thank you mr. reiskin. the baseline budget is that a continuation or zero-based budgeting going both it >> it's not zero-based budgeting it's the of you minor

adjustment i've mentioned. >> as i see it we're asking the resident to pay for the plan area expansions to the one bay area plan that's been encompassed on us that's an unfunded mandate that's on treasure island and hunters point i realize some of the developers are paying a portion of the cost but not the full cost. in addition i'm sorry to see the change of stability effort has been stimuli admitted and not including in the high racing rise so for sky crane i visualize that as money that's not coming to fund the expansion

we're coming to the property owner as the amount am machine i'll willing to help pay for some of this with you now your turning to the receipt to fund the expansion and, you know, that's just the reason san francisco has gotten into the position the m t c says you've got rich transit we are going to put in more housing you go down to palo alto i don't know if you're familiar they were going to upscale the planning requirement for senior housing the folks in palo alto turned

around and city council said they're to leave it up to the resident they got enough signatures and it turned out to be - palo alto is now faced with what do we do with the land. same thing is going only in another area. the same thing is going on. you know, i'm wondering if it's boibl up her in the city as what's going on with the adding requirements. i'll continue we've got a policy in the city for better streetscape improvements. do you want a street try or murn

to run on time. the reign through the planning department they've got a 20-year plan to plant trees. well, the plan they have does say this is the total cost of the plan on the annual basis here's what the public works is presenting and the nonprofits and the rest is going to be contractor. so if you take that range it's for 20 years $500 million to $850 million at the high-end so someplace in between. they would weeping we'll levy $100,000 taxed you add up the levy from the 50 thousand foot

level euyou have to wonder how much can we for the record on this. there's choices to be made in the city and we've exceeded our requirements for some of the desires it's not to have trees but there's choices that notes needs to be addressed by the policy last. it concludes paying for traffic control. i looked at the document from two years ago one of the elements was getting compensation from the gointd and i'm wondering if that's in the baseline budget if you were successful in being to - >> for the giant no. so impartial accounted for that's our structural gap with the goipts the term of their

lease prohibits any surcharge for transit that will have to be renegotiated for that to change >> police there's a lack of traffic and bicycle controls. on 16 accounting street i saw a police motorcyclist doing traffic enforcement. we have all those movies in the city a perfect example i was up at the 24th and castro and looking at all corporate counterpart buses 19 buses that

went through there in a one hour period so there's a greyhound bus every 23 seconds there were additional buses parked on castro street it's would i do but the 24 bus has to go around so after i finished i started to work down and there's a star bus and a motorcycle cop and he was on a movie shoot and starbuck's. it doesn't bowed well, for the enforcement we're trying to do that are another one is internal

workforce development are rethinking we have an agency working for us in order to entice new people we go to the department of labor and get some grant money to allow a path of vanishment for someone that motive be on the foul island and say here's a path of advancement you've got to buy into this but at the end you can be a mechanic and get grant money in this area. you know, i've also thought muni had 4 thousand employees for some reason now i've heard its 4 seven hundred where did the extra employees come from i'm

overwhelmed and lastly there ought to be legislation for the corporate counterpart buses this thing i'm looking the fact their transposing the congestion from the areas in the south by the way, to the employees neighborhood. what they do in the south by the way, whether it's golden they've spent half million dollars in changing some of the downtown mountain 1ru6. transmission and the 10 one and thoip but every time those city counsels have an expansion they're projecting you read the papers oh, we've got to do something with transportation so the solution we'll put them in commuter buses.

that's all right. for that one but it's the cumulative effect of all those gray hound buses circulating in the neighborhood now 19 going in one hour through castro it's a severe problem they may not come in an average of 3 minutes. a coupled they were right behind each other then you've got a green light that - he blocks the intersection because the light changes again. and then you've got the lay over problem. all i can say everything is frustrated with knows the fact those buses are in the

neighborhood gray hound buses if they were summarily but the fact you have double deckers and greyhound they're bigger than muni. i think inch explained thank you very much >> on the last issue we're embarking on this pilot program to address some of the impacts you've tubed. very quickly i don't want to keep this gentleman but with regard to the streets we talk about safety and the other projects but i'll say with regard to trees in my former role of the stout of the urban effort trees are one of the most