was like new. >> next speaker. >> good morning, sir. >> good morning. i'm going to read a formal statement to be brief as possible. i'm here to read a statement concerning the impact in the change of the 43 station at lion. >> my name is salvador and i'm the resident services coordinator at the proceed apartments here in san francisco located at 2770 lumbar and lion. we're a federal funded resident for senior citizens capable of independent living. i'm here to strongly object to a proposed change at lion. the stop is located at the entrance to the park apartments. i objected this change because the change

would isolate the 43 bus and disable the health of our resident. my objections are based on the concerns. 60 percent of our resident are between 80 and 95 years of age. and 75 percent of our resident have trouble performing activities. and 15 percent resident have cognitive imperative. we have no on site medical staff or in home support at our facility. our resident use the 43 bus to kaiser and to the veteran's hospital and other shopping activities. in conclusion here, we're at a lost to under the proposed change and we see risk to our population for changing this final bus route. we would like some input and

clarification on the changes so we can assess and understand the impacts with more clarity. thank you for your attention. >> thank you. >> next speaker. is andrew here? >> chris cole followed by mariam and patricia catty. >> good morning mr. coal. >> my name is creg coal, not chris. i'm the housing administrator for the gate apartments. i just moved to san francisco on tuesday, started my position. one of the first things i did was go out and buy a clipper and i've been riding the bus daily. i'm here to speak on the 43 which is located in front of our building on lumbar and lions. if we move it, we have a large population of elders and they depend on that bus to go to

kaiser and va and i'm afraid those folks will postpone doctor visits for a chronic care and if they do that, what i'm afraid will happen, we're going to have more 911 and emergency calls, which is going to add to the burden onto our emergency systems and also to the emergency rooms of the hospital. so that's my biggest concern. the second thing is i'd like to invite the board members to come visit our community at pacedo gate community and see how this move would effect our folks. i would like for you to meet our resident and see the neighborhood and how it would affect us. thank you very much. >> next speaker. >> lewis followed by patricia and maryland hughes.

>> good morning, mrs. lewis. >> good morning, my name is lewis. we're opposed to the changes in regards to the 43 about bus stop at lumbar and lions and the bus route as it self. as people with senior citizens and those with disabilities, we'll be isolated and greatly endangered by these two proposals. we count on the 43 bus to take us to the hospitals. we're a community of seniors who live independently in subsidized apartment. we do not have the monetary means to use taxi cabs and we're not able to make the climb up and down the hill to a one eighth of a mile to the next bus stop. our senior community resident is the polling place for the marina and cal halo area and it has been so for decades. without the 43 bus

where will people go to both. we don't believe this consequence should be overlooked. thank you very much for your time. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> patricia catty, maryland hughes. riley. >> good morning. >> ladies and gentlemen, good morning. my name is patricia and i'm a resident of gate apartments. it's subject to federal standards including measuring the independence and well-being of its senior citizens. this building scores are among the highest in california. a resident lifeline is reliable transportation to confidently make, keep, and return for medical points. they need to shop and get to church and so forth. losing the number 43 bus stop will isolate them from all of these activities. the plan would require seniors

to walk home across six lanes of two way speeding traffic to and from the golden gate bridge. if you try to safely cross richardson and imagine a lady with diminished eye slight, hearing and balance carrying a purse, a tote bag, and a cane and a bag of groceries, you'll agree with us. it's risky. it's cruel and in die fie ant of the mayor's goal. >> i like to ask, you believe you've addressed this problem. i gather there's several others who want to speak but since we

have something to say on this one. this was not included in your packets but as recently as yesterday, i think we were able to address the concerns that we've been hearing on the 43. the 43 masonic doesn't make the full connection with the transit center. it goes into the gate and then comes back out and with we were doing the original proposal, the trust said we think it's wonderful that you're extending the 43 to fort mason, is there a way to get it to the masonic center. that's how people access chrissy field. what was appealing to them, it would be this wonderful bus connection between

their two recreation facilities. what we had initially proposed was we would go to the transit center and we would come out and up richardson so we would miss the stops these folks are concerned about. we went out and after talking with the trust, we went out and timed it yesterday, and we think that if we go to the transit center and back out the exact same way we came, so that all of the stops that we currently have continue to be served in both directions, it will be in equivalent travel time and we'll still get the benefits. this is the only proposal where we're recommending adding deviation to a route because i'm always making sure the routes are straight as possible but because chrisy -- we felt it important to do this change. i believe do by doing

this proposal on the right where we go on the transit center and coming out on the right and we would have addressed their concern and improve their access because they'll have a one seat ride to the water. >> there is a stop currently in front of the gate apartments and this will continue. >> could i suggest since this is brand new that someone from staff with mr. castanada and other peoples and they look at it and we hear whether he's happy or in discussion and that might make the meeting more sufficient. >> that's a great -- that who helped make this proposal can meet with key stakeholders. >> next speaker, please.

>> maryland hughes, riley, and patricia. the extend to what they're here to talk about that proposal -- >> you just took care of my problem, i think. thank you. >> mr. kennedy is going to talk specifically back in the hall. okay. next speaker. >> okay. is riley here for the 43. >> are we going to bipass all people. >> [inaudible]. my 20th in china in between panoli. i'm

familiar with the 29th and where you'll change the 43 stop to have us move from lumbar and lions and richardson. the bus that comes up richardson, the view is blocked by a tree and the driver is usually in the left rain and years before using 43 i was bi passed tree times because they couldn't see me. and i rely on muni and i found a taxi service, the reliability factor is too row. the 43 takes me from lumbar -- if i to get off lion and richardson, there's a steep

incline up lion at five to seven degree to lumbar. i can no longer walk up that incline. it's a burden on myself and many other veterans who patronize the 43 as well as some of them go all the way to usff on the 43. i hope you'll reconsider for that station for lumbar and lion. thank you for your time. >> thank you for your service. >> we have some people scheduled to speak would have gone out. some people indicated they're here for others. do you want me to call those people. >> let's keep calling. >> patricia is outside. todd followed by ann. >> any of those folks here. >> yeah. >> come forward, please. >> good morning gentlemen. my

name is today campbell and i live on 557 oak park drive. and i'm opposed for the change for the 36 terra ceta. we live in a steep hilly area. i currently take -- walk down the stairs to warren drive and at oak hearst lane i pick up the 36 bus and ride it up to forest hill. on return i pick up the 36 bus and ride around mid town terrace and come back into forest noels. the proposal as it shows is to eliminate the route to forest

noels. as a result, our area oak park, crestmont would be without bus service. i've lived there since 1965. we've continually bus service. we've had to fight to keep the service into forest noels and that's what i'm here for today. if the service is eliminated, one of the options is to take the 43 to 7th and lontan and hike up a steady climb up to oak hearst lane, 162 steps up to oak park and if you're going up to the next ridge, it's another 190 feet and this is completely unacceptable. i don't see why we can't maintain the loop out to warren and down to

forest hill. thank you. >> thank you, sir. next speaker. >> tim and ann. >> good morning. >> good morning. my name is kim isaac and i'm a resident of forest noels and live on warren drive. i was disturbed at the opening comments at the presentation of the tep report out that we were going to have public transportation access to the hilly areas in san francisco. if we eliminate the 36 loop that goes through forest noels neighborhood, we will not be providing public transportation to one of the hillest neighborhoods in san francisco. it's a single family home resident and we

don't fit the areas on the board. we do have cars but if you get around in san francisco, you don't want to use them. that's the only lifeline not just for warren, but as it man before me pointed out, it's a steep neighborhood and before you consider eliminating it mile, i suggest you come down there. i wish bikes was an option. i lived in the neighborhood 19 years ago and when i was 20 pounds lighter, i couldn't make it up the i will on a bicycle and i'm not going to make it now. on 7th and lotton where i can catch the 43, it's a quart of a mile walk and i'm not nearly as old as those in the audience and it's hard on my knees. and

i road down here. one of my neighbors wanted to me to say, she works in retail and she's on her feet 10 hours a day and if she has to walk up or down that hill, she doesn't think her knees are going to make it. we don't meet the demographics but we need the service and it's the lifeline of our community. when i went to the community outreach meetings, i was told that we save ten minutes by getting rid of this route, when the 36 comes off of clarendon and down warren, that is not a ten minute ride. you're not going to save yourself the ten minutes that's going to provide you the increase frequency of eliminating us and letting the route go from 30 to 20 minutes. please come visit. it's a wonderful part of the city if

you haven't been there. thank you. >> thank you very much. >> is ann garret here. sui sung and kevin. >> just to start, can you pass it around to everyone because a glaring -- i know it says including at the top there, but -- i was in forest my whole life and i think tep is great and overdue. when the forest noel's neighborhood was a route was built, i know you'll allow [inaudible] and that's not bus

service. and over five years ago, the rush hour frequency got reduced from 20 minutes during rush hour, to half an hour. i guarantee some people -- i don't know what the rider ship numbers are, but i guarantee the potential for people, some people probably they carpool, they bought a car although they're tight on money, things like that. this is extremely steep. i spoke with an aid for the supervisor, i've been told that the tep has gone up to the neighborhood and i questioned if they walked the route or walked the neighborhoods. there's a massive difference between the two things. you don't -- you do see the steepness when you walk, but you don't see all of it. lastly i guess, whether the notices for these meetings, they mention improvements -- there was one out of ss state a couple of weeks and it

includes improvements for district 7 and that paper i want you to look at, it mentioned all the improvements for lions in the district. it did not mention the elimination of the bus. thankfully the sign at the bus stop from the neighborhood they don't mention the elimination of service until someone brought it up. the sign right now about this meeting and two weeks from today don't mention it. they're not talking to us. they have to talk to us if they want to eliminate it. >> thank you, sir. next speaker. >> good morning. >> thank you for having us. it has been an educational moment for me and my son oliver. we're here to talk about the 36 warren loop. essentially this move cuts off our neighborhood completely from muni. my son son depends on it to

go to school. we spent months sending him to school to he can use muni. he's in high cool and -- he's in high school now and i don't want him wondering around. that hill is so steep, i decided my program would walk up and down the hill. i'm a physician and i was frightened to do this, i got a heart monitor to make sure i didn't get hurt. many of those here are elderly and don't have the options that i have forgetting around and what is the public purpose in getting rid of that one loop. the document online spoke on making remaining service less is a queue does. i would urge you to consider whether that's an overwhelm public need as

opposed entirely cutting off a vital neighborhood from the city. thank you. >> thank you, sir. next speaker, please. >> kevin and jennifer. howard. >> good morning, sir. >> good morning, my name is kevin. i live on warren drive. right next to [inaudible] who spoke the second person this morning. and i want to reiterate what she said. i have gone to three of the meetings, the one at san francisco state and one the other ones to voice my objection to the elimination of the 36 on forest noel and none of the tep representatives have ever walked the route and to the top of the hill, i understand it's 1,000 feet, so it's the same height at the top of twin peak where the observation is. also the -- i want to comment on the --

what an earlier speaker said that this he appear to be invisible on the statistics. 1/3 of the buses have the people counters on them, so i believe the number in your documents that i saw were 49 people would be effected by eliminated the warren route because 1/3 of the buses had counters, so i think toes numbers are suspect and the numbers are higher. i spoke to a muni driver who showed up at san francisco state and she said that drivers are not consulted which seems inappropriate. i have a lot of guest at my house from around the world, so i have five people each night stay at my house and they take the 36 which stops directly across the door from my front house. i've had people from 28 countries stay there in the last six months and each

year that accounts for 3,000 rides on this route and it's going to reflect badly if we don't have them stop at my front door. thank you very much. >> jennifer, howard, charles. >> good morning. >> good morning, my name is jennifer con and i'm a resident of forest noels. it's a community of almost 500 single family homes and apartments. i've lived there for 20 years and thank you for inviting us for public comment. i want to discuss the bus route. it's accessed to steep road, if you ever to go up there, you would see garbage cans rolling because they can't stay up. it's that steep. riding is for daily transportation and it's not possible for some

resident they rely on buses and cars. forest resident are seniors. the car use is an overall goal of the city of san francisco and eliminating the 36 would cause people to drive. my house is a five minute walk from the current warren and 36 stop. but it's a 20 minute walk to clarendon. my high school takes the bus. reducing it would eliminate access to our neighborhood public transit severely. the planning chigs recently approved a new -- the planning commission approved a building overlook, my street. part of their approval of this huge 34 unit was the availability on 36 street on

warren drive which is currently slated for elimination. for those resident to walk up the remaining claron stop would take them 25 to 30 minutes verses the five to ten minutes it would take them now if the warren stop were maintained. these new resident, 70 plus will be driving in their cars. >> thank you. >> we're apart of the city, we pay taxes, we vote in elections and we would need access to muni -- please do not reduce the 36 route. >> good morning, again, director. first i want to say a few kind words about tep. i'm looking forward to it happening. i think most is very good. except some of the stuff that's julie is

proposing -- the 5-l you'll enjoy. i want to get about the statistics on who used muni. when i sat down many years ago, we heard that muni was unique amongst transit systems in it country and that significant percentage of them owned cars, and of higher means and you've heard from some of them today from knolls hils. i once got into argument with ralph, how do we provide services on these hills. maybe if you live in an expensive here, it has it collect premium and what you do after hours when you can't provide any service, i can't figure out how to provide service to the sierra club. it's very difficult. so if you have a

fast pass through those hills, but muni reaches in and gives you a bus right after 10:00 and maybe it will be worth wild. i'm going to flush this out but it's something to look forward to in the future because you need these people as they mentioned, they're going to vote on our bond issues and they do pay their taxes and provide muni. we don't want them getting in their cars and making the city more congested so this is very difficult. >> thank you very much. >> charles and sue, herbert. >> is those folks here? >> is their minister here? no. sue, herbert, patrick. >> good morning. >> good morning. my name is sue and i live at warren drive. i lived there for eight years now. the express has been a life saver

and recently i major back surgery res than a year ago, ten months, and really i don't know how i would get around with the back surgery, without having that 36 bus. like the other speakers have said, the incline is very steep. even my physical therapist right now, i finely started to go to physical therapy and said can't you get a ride, it's too steep to walk. i think it's very she essential to keep the bus line and keep the warren bus route open. walking downhill sometimes didn't too bad. but really as far as getting a transit, i'm not sure what the requirements for that would be, i think it would be difficult to get para transit. many times i take the 36 bus to my home so i

won't have to walk up the hill and getting a taxi really impossible. taxi drivers think it's too short of a route and refuse to pick me up. i've tried many times. again, for the disability or the elderly or anyone who isn't a marathon type shape, i think the 36 bus line is just essential and i love muni and i love taking public transportation. thank you. >> thank you very much. >> patrick and linda. >> good morning. >> herbert and stakeholder. i'm a social worker by profession who works with the disable and senior citizens and i speak partly from that perspective. there's break down