west lake and consider things like moving the 18 to the daily bart. the 17 is great for those with disability and mobility impairments to be served and it need to be considered. i put on the over head the contact for the muni stuff so people -- people have contacted me directly. please, anybody listen, contact tep through their contact information and let them know if you support going or not going to west lake. we're hearing a lot of feedback and we're going to talk about it at our meeting. >> patricia. >> good afternoon. >> patricia concerns the 43 sonic. we approve from the sketches we saw but we with like to see

final drawings so make sure they don't get changed, but we approve of what they've proposed. also the the seniors got this signatures they want to put in. what disturbed me about this case is i ride that bus. i can't get up the hill. sometimes i can walk and sometimes i can't. idea i could not, but interest yesterday i could not. it did not say anything about taking away the 43 that stop. last thursday a new sign came up saying they were taking away that stop. it caused a lot of anxiety, concern to the neighbors, to the center and this center has been apart of our community. low

income, and they keep talking about the rich marina. we've loved these people for years and we've worked with them and worked with getting them a farmer's market at times when it was available. and we have a lot of retired military, world war ii, vietnam, korea, iraq, because of the nature of the -- what was there before. and please consider our seniors, but also i would like to see more input to us. you are going to be invited to a meeting quite shortly. >> thank you very much. >> the next speaker. indiana. >> good afternoon. >> my name is indiana and i

want to talk about the 43 line. apart of me is happy because they said the proposal are keep it, but there's no final proposal. it's only proposal. that means they can change it. i depend on 27 for anywhere i want to go. i look healthy but i'm not. i have breathing problems and i have difficult problems walking and i need the 27 because it's convenient for me for going, dropping, school, i'm retired right now but i'm going to school and i need the 27. i really don't want -- they'll be messing with the 12 because if they do that i have to walk too many blocks or the

others say go -- bruno is too far for me. i'm asking you to keep the 27 because too many elderly people like me, we depend on 27 and children go to school, and we really, really depend on 27 line. thank you for listening. >> thank you. >> next speaker. >> joe followed by winston parsons. >> good afternoon, commissioners. joe. i happen to be reading [inaudible] poetry where he talks about a change that puts the wind and man up on his death bed and with i read the proposals yesterday about the changes on the muni bus stop themselves at the corner of dero and macalister, it put the wind of me on my death bed which is probably only a couple of years

away given me age. i checked around with every single business and none of them new about the changes to the bus stops themselves and at the corner of dearo and macalister are four businesses and three are own by mid eastern people and one from africa, and two of those businesses will be directly impacted by the changes in the bus stop. for instance, one bus stop in front of a store that sells liquor and goods and the other side the same way, by moving those two bus stops to the opposite end, you take away that man's business. now, these worker from the middle east work 7 days a week and work 12 to 14 hours a day. they need that business. it was obvious whoever did this study never looked at the impact of

those bus stop changes to those people. the third thing is it backs up the traffic fic totally. i'll have it organized for next week's meeting or whenever it's at the planning commission, i'll have the whole neighborhood aroused on it. it changes the entire fa sod and the compat ability to the community. i wanted to address that issue. >> thank you. >> last speaker, winston parson. >> hello, again. so i'm here to talk about a couple of lines on the tep. to start with the three jackson. i live a couple of blocks away from it. after looking at

the ridership data and who is using it and with a proposal to decrease service, it makes sense to me. i'm in favor for it. but i think we need to look at the overall success of our network as a whole and i hope we can have better service on our network as a whole and local lines but it doesn't look like we're going to get the funding from the government, so we need to be problematic. my question is while it's avoided doyle drive to have it stopped at california on its way over. the 1, 3, and 43 stop nearby there. if it doesn't make sense, that's fine, but consider it please. 43 and masonic makes

sense to me. and i like to echo the gentlemen's comment, i think it would be a boom to everyone. 76 marine, i love it. it's a great service. thank you. >> thank you. >> members of the board, we need to offer some direction to the staff at this point. did you turn in a card? >> no. >> just go ahead and speak. >> my name is henry and i wanted to commend the mta and the board on their hard work on the tep and the changes are exciting. just some of my comments of support. definitely the jackson should

stay if people use it. they could serve as a connecter for pacific heights to downtown china town. another comment i'd like to make it regarding the 27. i live on washington street, honestly my family could use that route especially my mom who rides the 27 to work, although the good point is velejo don't have service, they'll benefit from it and they'll be encouraged to ride the bus and my block as should had children -- i grew up on that block and i like the bus coming down my block since i was a kid so it did not endanger me. i'm still here. for the 19 -- i'm going to into the things i'm concerned about and that's of the 19 especially in the bay view. a lot of those in live if the bay view, they need a way to get

downtown in case the tep don't work. they hope they maintain the service down into the bay view. and i think that's all my comments. >> at this time, members of the board, to pleasure -- we're not taking action. we're suggesting direction to this staff. vice chair. >> my understanding on the timing of this in the next steps are this is going to policy and goverance and back to the full board. >> the proposed service changes, what we talked about today are be going to the policy and governance committee. the planning commission is considering the eir itself and the adequate see of the eri and not the merits of pretty much of everything you heard today. that's within the province of the mta board and that's before

you on march 28th for your consideration. >> okay. so thank you very much everyone for everyone who took the time to offer public -- thank you very much for taking the time to come down here. there isn't enough outreach when talking about changes, but julie and sean and your staff who did a great job reaching out to the public but modifying these proposals based on the input we did hear. to touch on those, the 36 taraceta, i think that's an incredibly steep hill. i don't know how you live on a steep hill. i think we should definitely consider keeping that loop and keeping that service on that steep hill. what were the other ones? i think the director,

you were going to talk about the 48, i think. my notes on this are just really all over the place. the two lines, the 17 and the 35 that are connecting with up city bart and the 35 to the glen park bart, i think those are great. at any time we can make those connections it fabulous because it's going to extend bart and help those who live in those neighborhoods. okay. i'm going to stop now and if i notice in my noticed that i have other things that i want it comment on, i will. >> directly lee. >> i want to thank the people for coming and speaking. julie, i'm always impressed with your work. i want you to know that. i'm in agreement with their cheryl that we need to take a look at

the terraceta and i don't want to ros site of the jackson, a month ago we a lot of resident in that area testify on why keeping that was important. we had the supervisor for that area come up, so can we look at options with that one too? >> sure. >> yeah, up on the screen i have the initial proposal for the three jackson and the modified for the three jackson. >> it's a busy corridor, but about halfway through the corridor we peel off half the service by turning right on fill more and left on jackson. we're providing access to folks on jackson heading downtown, but there are other options, almost every stop there is covered by a route, although in some cases it are mean transferring

to get to a downtown route. what we're aiming to do is increase the amount of service between fill more and pacedo in a cost effective way. we did work closely with the community with a lot of leadership with farrell's office and addressed the issues from what we've heard. with these modifications, we don't address everybody's concern. in this case what we're recommending is that rather than having half of the buses peel off at filmore we'll have a third of the buses peel off so jackson will have service and it will be less frequent, so we'll have 15 peek service and 20 to 30 service through the rest of the day and we'll have increase certificate service between downtown. that will become the all day route, so that we would

have 18 hours of service on sutter between downtown and pasedo and that route moves evening services around 8:00 p.m.. >> that's all i have. >> director [inaudible]. >> i want to see if you have feedback on the 36. we've heard a lot of comments about that. do you have a response to that? >> i think you have a tough job and i think that the 36 is an example of that. when we were doing the planning phase of this project and toes who were here, you would often here me citing the 36 is one of our most broken community routes. up at the section that we're talking about, it literately

does figure rate, so folks boarding the bus actually pass where they started before heading onto the forest hills move which is about five to six minutes of additional travel. the bus also, if you notice right here, turns into myro way and then it turns out of myro way. this is something in 2008 we looked at as well. the board makes the recommendation at that time that we should continue to have that. with all of these proposals, the staff is trying to find the balance of how do we get them a little bit straighter and a little bit strong he so that where we are continuing to have service, we're attracting more customers. and that's the trade-off we weigh. the segment of forest i will had --

sorry, forest knolls would lose service. the grade is 16 percent depending on where you are on the route. my staff has gone out and done very extensive field work on all of these changes, but we don't evaluate it to our lengths because we're able body and able to hike up those lengths. it has 40 to 50 boardings a day which is 3 percent of the total route. >> i know it's a long meeting but i had a question about the survey. there's a lot of talk about the minority groups and how was minority defined or if it was defined and included those with disabilities and seniors as part of that definition. >> we'll be happy to distribute the survey to the board. we

didn't have disability and we had a question about race and ethnicity. it was self-reported. >> i've been a stronger support of tep and we have to be careful about the fact that with every proposal, there's going to be some bad and if we try to solve all the bad, we're going to undo a lot of the good and this is a package proposal, with that, i want to just speak to the one issue that seems to be at the fort of the day which is the 36 inform forest knolls and its service there. the goal was to have everyone within a quarter mile of transportation and you've succeeded in that goal with this proposal as best i can tell, but the

message for those in forest knolls that not all miles are the same. it's different than a quarter mile of flat transportation or walking. so i guess where i am on this, i would like to see if there's a different option to maintain service to forest knolls. i ride 46 going it the park with my children and it's an up -- it's an unpopulated bus. we have the same issue with the 89 and we used a smaller bus and conserved resources. that's one thing that maybe we can do is consider. and the other thing i would suggest that we consider is even if we make the route less of a loop, if we look at

the map, i strongly suspect that our fellow citizens in forest knolls would be willing to walk an eighth of a mile laterally meaning towards clarondon so they're not going up and down. that's a sub position. my view is when we're looking at this one we need to not just look at distances but the slope. if there's a way to speed up the 36 teracitta but give the forest knolls a flatter route to the bus stops, that might address the problems. >> anything else, director heinik. >> what kind of alternates can we do?

>> the 27 on velejo. it seems like everyone who has a bus wants to stay and thank you for fighting for your buses. i appreciate that. people who don't have buses on their streets don't want them on their streets but given everyone who has a bus on interest street wants it. if we extend the 22 velejo, ten or 15 years from now, and they're looking to remove it, hundreds of people will fight to keep that. since that route and change seems to make a lot of sense for the 27, that we should keep that on the table and still consider extending the 27 to velejo and i think that was the last comment. >> the governance committee will look at it next friday and then it will come back to the board on the 28th. i want to thank everybody for your thoughtful participation in this complex process. okay. anything else. we have several

other items before the break. but let's get a break. we have director's report and public comment and litigation. thanadjourned.

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