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properties in manhattan. this project went out of business and at the end they were charging the residents there 3 times the market rate. so this is the history. thank you >> thank you, mr. rogers. next speaker >> good morning. i'm henry i'm here to voice any support of the feasibility study with one transcript on the avenue some not where the m lines are at there are a lot of students who ride the 28 everyday during the rush hour there's congestion in the north direction and if the questing right-of-way were there it would improve where their ride the m or 28.
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that's one thing i ask the feasibility study to consider >> anyone else who would like to speak. seeing none, public comment is closed. supervisor yee >> yeah. i just want to make a comment about the process of seeing the ta and mta as partnership come together on this. when they first went out to the community it was in draft form and there were options for several. was interesting to watch the public or lynn listen to the public initially when there was a fear that decisions were already made they continued to give their comments and input to the create of the process when it came back the comments that were made were listened to and
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the adaptation of the next duration of the plan was more to the liking to the majority of the people. i went to several of the public meetings and saw day and night the meetings and in terms of the process i would hope that the effort that was made from this process could be also done with other promotions throughout the city. >> thank you supervisor yee. we're joined by john avalos as well. supervisor avalos >> thank you, mr. chairman. i want to note i certainly hope that we continue to communicate with this community and i was certainly interested in finding of finding out more about connectivity that was raised and
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wondering if there's any comment from staff >> so regarding the question of connectivity we did do a little bit of an analysis of expending the ocean view to daily city bart on page 70. and we draw up a potential line up from oxygen view to daily city. the best way to do it would be peel off the bridge and elevate in the middle and as you start to land you'll have to elevate again, it's quite a bit of aerial structure we have 3 hundred million reported. there's nothing we're doing to preclude that as a future extension but we have capital costs which is a large potential
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agreement of the project we think the focus should be in the immediate term. i thought about it and i certainly hear about the connection to the daily city. i think people love bart because it's fast and reliable but we are trying to make the m ocean view like that. it depends on what you're desire is but some people choose daily city bart because it's fats faster and we're trying to make the m line like that >> thank you. >> a question along those lines if we are talking about the m line going to daily city bart we're talking top of a portion will not be going down
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this area so i think we want to make sure that the randolph corridor don't lists services. >> let me clarify is decision that was middle-income made in the park merced plan some trains would go to the tail track in park merced and tuner and go downtown and some trains will continue to randolph so the current plan under would be not every train going to randolph but also a more service provided in the future. i think it's an interesting question is there a way to counterfeit the speed and reliability of improving the existing connection to the bart station >> yes, if we're excluding the train going to daily city we would see less service and
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frequency potentially for people on either line right now we don't have anything going on in daily city but we'll use the corridor to get on the m line to downtown in a quick way. we want to make sure we're still maintaining a level of service people are using that line >> other comments. i wanted to say i'm sorry mr. roger we already closed public comment but i want to say the 28 line that dbe's north and south on 28 line to sf state as mr. pan raised increasing the efficiency and the use even if north, south corridor is an issue as we look at the results of this study. i don't know if the corridor was
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from is it fair to say cycle to pretty much the ingel side but i hope we look at how to maximize the transit along the north, south corridor that goes up to golden gate park to park presidio boulevard sometime in the future. so colleagues, any other comments? then we have an action item before us is there a motion? >> moved and a by supervisor yee. >> supervisor avalos. supervisor london breed ask absent >> supervisor campos. supervisor kim. supervisor mar. supervisor yee. this item passes >> thank you and supervisor breed has left the meeting and we're joined by supervisor
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avalos. we're going to item number 9 now. call the next item >> item 9 presentation of draft strategic analysis report on local and bike models. this is an informational item >> we have the newly clean-cut michael shorts. >> i'm with the planning section. i know we're running short on time. this is not in your packet we're protocols we're passing and we're distributing them now and to anyone on our website >> can i open up real briefly. back in september i asked for this report to be done we started our pilot program and but it's under the jurisdiction
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ultimately but there could be other ways and places it's going to find it's ultimate home a hybrid between the m t direction and questions about whether we have government entity with the regional level that needs to get worked out and as we see the pilot projecting program i asked for this study to be done to get a handle on the different choices and not to thank the transportation staff and michael sworts >> the chair puts it exactly right this is a perfect time and the first part of this presentation i want to show this first muni rail listen this is germany gary when this was one
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public transit agency. today, of course, there are 27 different transit agencies different operating proprietors they expedite with the agencies. a simple trip from the core of oakland your riding 3 different train systems and paying 3 fairs taking an hour to get there and paying more than $7 for a one way trip. this is some of the issues not growing in a cooperated manner. why am i talking about that we're at this stage we have one system that's working and trying to expand it we have this unique opportunity and the commissioners have been interested in this traufb and
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hopefully, we'll do it in a way not to undue challenges in the future. as the chair said how do we get from where we are today to we have biking in the region and helps you to connect from the transit system. i'm not going into bicycle sharing but very quickly it's important to frame it as an extension of the transit system. it number one has the connection in the outer districts but it is pulling people out of transit into the congested downtown so it's helping transit and it could be a much anymore cost effective way in planning a now
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a railway line. as the chair said the air district is the lead right now. this incrimination recommends the sfmta fund to have 5 hundred bikes in san francisco and a thousand through the system. we've learned from the pilot there's more than 90 percent of transportation is in san francisco it's a good place for bike sharing and as mentioned the organizational structure of the permanent structure is under deliberations and this is the best time to have the conversation. another thing to emphasize is recreational bike sharing is good for san francisco and a strong bike sharing in san francisco will be good for the
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region. and see the nature of the f ar there's two key indemnities the first is the infrastructure and good afternoon, everyone. how local the administration and transportation will be done vs. a centralized model. everybody don't their own thing a nate's that's not the thing to look at we want to see the standards here. on the other extreme is the air district the regional district controls the funding to make sure the system st. is moving forward and the hybrid model in between there the second access is who's going be to operating open a local level. there's examples of this around
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the country the nonprofit administer we spin-off the nonprofits who goes out and operates it. the second one the same nonprofit administering but a private vendor who operates it. and then there's a totally private model which is what new york and miami have done you allow them to go into a private entity to make sure it's meeting the context >> who is in new york and florida. >> is it citibank? >> yes. citibank. >> i'll be the ultimate operator bay keith from the sfmta who is the project manager for bike sharing in san
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francisco, california answer your questions. >> and mr. schorts in mexico city is that nonprofit with the private sector partner; is that correct is are they in mexico city. >> my impression is that mexico that's right that is a private entity that's operating it with strong government oversight. even when it's totally private there's a entity whether you're going to charge for the space that has parking spaces or car right-of-way is donated by the private sector. >> and that's private nonprofit in mexico city or a distinction between - my it's a slightly
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different structure but that's right it's a private nonprofit it's eco b.c. who won of their missions is to operate it bike sharing system i should note we're a union structure to do the recreational bike sharing into in the washington, d.c. area and the boston area those are the publicly administered models where a private vendor operates the system. and so the way we evaluate the model vs. public and private the 4 main goals from this commission as well as the public which are the ability to expand rapid in san francisco that is the critical mass and have it
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become a viable form of transportation as well as fats sustainability. one of the key questions is the sponsoring question one of the sporpz is private sporpz and whatever private sponsoring is quite a bitly distributed so that's an advantage for that one and the other to make sure that the cooperation and understanding is where the value is in the spoerp. so this is again saying if one key thing the clipper card you'll be able to use the same fair structure it will cost the same in one area you'll be able to use it in other places to not pay another fair. >> just around the use of
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clipper there has to be a law change to use the clipper in the system that's in the works. somebody asked about that it make sense the clipper card will be available for use for the system right now it's not available >> that's right and this is the kind of thing at the region structure form we can think about it long-term with the original role we're in a pilot phase. >> that will be key for the clipper being used. >> that's right and supporting the system it's a transit a recreational transit system outreach. something has come up around where the stations are sited and again, more local control over
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decision making and local control around funding because there is - there can be a krrlt terms of how that might play out that's another consideration as to the model was it might be. this is again trying to expand not only the geofrantical policies but other things for the system. this is the method we looked at a bunch of materials including be academic research and did a bunch of stakeholder academies and advocates and tried to say what's the right context for san francisco how do we fit in about
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that. the main finding that led to the recommendations that san francisco is well suited for bike sharing and recreational bike sharing as well 90 percent of the strips in san francisco we should note that the highest is alameda couldn't they don't have any bicycles in the county their buying the system here in san francisco really bike sharing works at the recreational level. in addition even though there's a recreational system the model today is not the only way to get the recreational benefits. there's ways to create the standards and potentially more disperse in terms of the decentralization. so there's more than one way to skin the cat and achieve the goals.
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the region is trying to figure out the regional structure it may take time there's a timeframe noerg it doesn't have to be done today but pursuing the system we want to support thought or the region today >> could i speak about what is happening at the local level like the mta expanding here locally. we'll to move as quickly as possible but how are things moving right now from our prospective. i don't know if it make sense but keith can tell you the lastly news >> we'll be brief. >> so to that and so i you know
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that flexible model i want to highlight that's the way the bikes are operating there's a few jurisdictions that are operating their own jurisdictions but the whole is better than the sum of the parts making sure that has stayed intact. there are more than one way to achieve the bicycle program. the first is mta should set goals for the bike system and expansion is the primary effort but there are other goals to shape the policy and funding decisions we need to make in the future so we want to increase the bicycle sharing and those are goals that should be specifically met. secondly, we think the mta should condition to work with
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the district as well as other local jurisdictions and stakeholder to agree on the standards. what is the bare minimum that the standards should be so to make sure we have the system prasht ability. so the mta should develop the system in the long-term. basically to continue to have the funding and the business plan that kind of idea but same thing maintain the recreational definition it might be more down the line the goals will make sense for synergy purposes. we recommend the region has a hybrid model to spin-off a nonprofit that's strongly supported by a public entity; right like with the 501 program
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and for jurisdictions that don't want to to do their own presumed to be innocent and programs that meet the programs that want to go ahead and make efforts on their own to make sure the region is supporting those efforts as well. and just finally >> so that means you can have other jurisdictions that can run the regions. >> yes. along with the capital matter just you making sure their speaking to one another and complimenting each other that's the goal. the other considerations mentioned i realize that in the back felt s ar we'll make sure their sprinklers better but how to achieve the social equality. we saw a presentation around
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north america and know you have to get their hands dirty the sfmta will have brainstorming groups how to solve the issue of bike sharing throughout the region it will take effort it's a challenge for the bicycle mode in general. there are by the evidence practices for those systems some thanksgiving things we've heard there are developers who want to write cheese cakes so their you currently is not a mechanism to achieve the funds so there has to be dedicated staff and mechanisms to make sure that can happen. we talked with the biefk rental folks and they're separate markets we believe but we need to marry they're clearly defined but the bike sharing is a
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short-term point to point use of the bicycle. finally there's this use even if public investment saying oh, bicycle sharing takes care of of itself are there's always a public investment if we're trying to define this this will define what is the prompt perspective 0 level of the public involvement. so with that, the next steps the sfmta is realized we'll be incorporating the feedback and bringing a final s ar through a regular board process and that could be early as the may board depending on the amount of feedback. thank you for your presentation and all your work on the s ar
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it's great to have a framework where san francisco, california expand with the regional system so i appreciate all your efforts. can we hear from the mta where we're at in terms of the expansion of our system here in san francisco. >> thanks good afternoon sprirdz keating maddox. just very quickly 3 points so right now, we're in the middle of station planning and outreach for a modest expansion of 17 stations that is part of the 50 stations in san francisco it will extend down market street and hate valley and into the triangle area so far as marketing and castro down valencia and we're planning that
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for right now we're in the thick of talking to neighborhood groups and merchants and doing our due diligence in the outreach. generally people are very excited about it especially in those areas there are going to be a lot of trade offices in terms of parking we have a lot of work to do and is there a timeframe >> it was supposed to have happened earlier this year. first, it was mirandize in some computable modifications but now there is a side issue going on in the issue. our mean software providers is still up for sale they filed for bankruptcy protection they were on the auction block and bids were due so we'll know later
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this month and we'll hopefully it will be bought by our current maintenance provider they can sort of move without hitch forward and sort of fire up production once more we don't know. it takes between 5 and 6 months to actually produce the equipment once it's ordered so at this point we'll be expanding this year >> can we meet off-line to talk about this. >> yes. >> so that's sort of the small-scale expansion and the other thing the mayor's office is hard at work laying the kind of infrastructureal organizational infrastructure for funding u fundraising in san francisco. so talking with the fundraiser
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and setting up the nonprofit that could accept the sponsoringship. it's great if the region wants to work on this but we're not stopping we don't want to end up a year from now. so >> so we're not necessarily looking at state of government stream for the program that's - >> that's it as well, but we definitely need to do what we're doing what we can to receive and attract the sources of private funds. we're also looking at private fund on this third point it was supposed to happen last month but in april the metropolitan transportation system is going to allocate