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stand in solidarity with them and request for justice. there can't ever be justice because we can't bring him back. you cannot just investigate your own department and your own staff. so we need an independent investigation because there was no justification to shoot him. the mentality to shoot first and ask questions later has got to stop. too many unarmed civilians are dying. make no mistake that i consider this to be very racist. just as i watch here tonight i was almost hit by a white woman on a bicycle as a cop car pulls up the street and i watch the black man getting beat up by the cop because he was told to take his bike off the sidewalk. if you don't know how many times i'm getting hit by white bicyclist. this is racial profiling and this is racism and the way that young
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kid was beat up, i hadn't heard anything. i have a lot of respect for the police, but when they are wrong, they are wrong. i don't call the police when i see problems because i'm scared that this could end in somebody's death. if i think somebody is having a mental crisis, i don't even call. i if my car is stolen, i don't want them to be shot. their life is more valuable than my car. please take action. there has to be prosecutions. these are not all justifiable and please do a fair investigation. thank you. [ cheers and applause ] >> i'm here from santa rosa to show my support to the family.
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my son was andy lopez' best friend. i have known andy since he was in kindergarten. the fact that these cops not not only in santa rosa, but san francisco, they are taking young lives is ridiculous. the shoot first ask questions later is bs. your code of silence is bs. i know this, because i know plenty of you guys. plenty. my family, this is something i'm not necessarily proud of. where officers here in san francisco, they can't stand what you guys are doing. they want to stand up against you guys. because you guys don't know how to. your bs excuses
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for shooting and killing has got to stop. this code of silence has got to stop. we will not give up until we see change and justice for not only andy, but for alex and everyone else you guys have killed. it is ridiculous. why? why must you do that? does it make you feel good? and then to know that you guys sit there and let these cops give a 2-week or longer paid vacation? that needs to stop. in order to get justice, in order for these cops to stop killing, they need to know they are not going to get paid when they shoot their guns,
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when they shoot and kill somebody. this needs to stop now. [ cheers and applause ] >> my name is forest smith with the coalition, the justice coalition against andy lopez. justice for allen blueford and otherwise who have a justice name attached to them. we have had the displeasure of being at meetings like this in oakland, in santa rosa and los angeles, all across the country. in san francisco, the police make a big deal about how they are some of the best police in the country, the best police force. they serve the best devilled eggs. they don't both with that in los angeles, with oakland in santa rosa. they don't both to conceal the fact that they fear and hate the people who have shown up to express their loss and hurt
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and their anger. and i have watched you in the bayview. i was impressed when wayne tucker, the chief of police in oakland had to be at one of these meetings he couldn't conceal his fear and anger of the black people surrounding him and you couldn't. we watched you do a performance to pretend that you care, to pretend to investigate. >> can you address the commission, please? >> i will address who i want to address and i don't give a -- about you guys or him. because we know you are irrelevant. you are a joke. you are irrelevant. and we will get justice and well not have anything to do with it. it will be the people in the streets of san francisco. you saw people monday and yesterday and it will not stop until we know who these cops are, they are fired, they are arrested, they are in jail.
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but instead of 11 months it needs to be a real jail sentence. until we see real community police instead of this occupation army. in our building there is 32 apartments. we've had a discussion because people are afraid to call police because someone might die. people are afraid to call police for mental health issues and doing their job and we are not going to accept anymore. [ cheers and applause ] >> hi. my name is ryan. i'm in a project #w -- we do affordable housing for people in the community. i want to lend my condolences. one of our residents was one of the people who was shot and it's
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affecting our community and the drug deals happening constantly on the streets are affecting our community and we want to see it's been helpful to see a stronger police force this week, but we imagine that once it dies down we are not going to to see so much of a presence and that concerns us because things go back to status quo. so, on behalf of all of the folks trying to create some change in the neighborhood we would love to see people taking a look at where the drug dealers are going. yes, the cars are gone now, that's wonderful, that's a start, but the drug dealers end up on the storefront and in their cars and we hope people are paying close attention to that. it negatively impacts our entire community out on the street. hopefully that message is
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heard. and i would offer my condolences to alex and his family and friends. >> hi, my name is monica drew. i'm a long time san francisco resident. it doesn't really matter though because i'm here to support alex nieto's family and also i don't know you personally and i don't know what it will take for my words to touch you or to reach you and to move you. i'm not under any elusion that what i say tonight is going to change very much. mostly what i'm here for is to ask some questions. there is a lot of questions that need to be answered about how the incident on friday went down because the truth is we don't believe the story. so, we need answers. one of the questions is how many 9-1-1 calls did police receive prior to the
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shooting? what were the 9-1-1 calers saying to the dispatch? at the time town hall meeting only one call is being referenced. he's eating chips at a bench with a holster. he was never described as erratic or threatening. we want a full transcript of the calls. if he was not regarded ass threatening in the 9-1-1 call why was there a need to approach alex in a tactical style. could he be a security guard. if a loudspeaker
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wasn't used how could a person know what to do. what was exactly that occurred between the officer and alejandro. all of these details matter. the police commission need to research all of these. thank you. >> hi. i'm the director of the community district in this neighborhood. i also want to extend my condolences to the tragedy that we've experienced at the city. i just want to say as a member of the police advisory board of the police in tenderloin community and as a resident of the tenderloin and mother, i believe in community policing and i feel that captain chemiss is
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right for the accountability and the accountability for the police department. this kind of mutual accountability is at the heart of what we are trying to do in our take back operations and safe passage programs is about community members taking initiative to improve their own sense of safety with the support of their own police department. if we could arrest our way into improved safety tenderloin, i think we need to rethink our approach. i think your presence here tonight is your accountability to us on behalf of the department. i think that there is going on in our community that is very hopeful and we see a lot of changes and we feel the most oh hopeful today about your
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efforts and i support captain chemiss and i want to ask the police and the commission if we can get creative about some of our policies and some of our solutions that maybe not work citywide but might work for the tenderloin because of it's unique circumstances. i think that might be a solution. we just get creative such as removing parking an painting buildings. i think those go a long way. thank you. >> good evening, my name is maria valeta. i'm a community advocate and for alejandro nieto. i just want you to know that i personally, the alex i knew was very peaceful. i saw
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him during his work hours and saw him deal with belligerent drunks and he's not what you are portraying in the media. i just had a few questions. first i wanted to know how long will these murderers police officers be on paid administrative leave. i believe i heard you say that it's about 10 days which i'm calculating correctly they will be back on sf sfreets in a few days. i request that you not put these murderous pigs on our streets. we are scared and that's not something we want. also, i would like to know why yesterday, chief sur said that alex was mentally
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ill and yet the police haven't had any contact with him and if that was the case, why was he approached in that manner and what was implied that -- what did the officer see when it implied he was unstable. he was in open space. look at the size of this room. you into -- need a microphone to hear me correctly. i need to know what you heard him saying if you are saying he said that. just please be accountable to our community and know that we are watching you guys too. [ applause ] >> my name is roxy and i'm
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here for alejandro. i think it's disgusting that we are adding and an abating the animals that killed him. we might not get it from you guys. that's the reality. you guys claim to be the good guys, you guys claim to be the heroes. you claim to keep us safe, but that's not the deal. that's not what's happening here. i don't even have to teach my kids to not trust you or hate you guys, you are doing that very well yourselves. i think there is nothing we can do to change the past and we might not be able to change the future, but i think if you are killing us, then you are the bad guys. because i'm not a bad guy. my children aren't bad guys, but it's a possibility that something can happen. we can't
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even spank our kids but you are killing our kids. i think it's a shame. you guys should remind yourselves why you are wearing that badge. you guys should remind yourselves why you are representing these people. at the end daft we are all human and i think that it doesn't matter how much you get paid or who you work for or what side you are on. i don't know, my deepest condolences for alejandro's family, if we don't get justice, these people are not worth it. >> hello, commission, community. my name is leo white. i am a community advocate and a youth educator and advocate for community policing in its troust form.
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i have a few things to address. one thing is the conversation around mental health has come up. i have worked very closely with dj williams, the young man beat up at the gardens. i have worked with him because i'm also a healer. he's having nightmares. he says he's jumpey now where he was never jumpy before. i sit in a room with his family members and he jumps at a shadow or at a movement. there is no justice in that. if you want to talk about mental health problems, the police created that mental health problem that young man has ptsd now. how is he going to feel safe? i asked him how does it feel for you? he says
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i don't feel safe in a room where i should feel safe. that is troublesome to me. i work very closely with police commissioners in training young people on knowing their rights. we are not going to tell them, okay, now that you know your rights, now you are going to have to drop everything that you have, don't do anything and sit still. how do we educate that they feel it's going to be okay. it's not possible. i have another question. what is the definition of justice for all of you. i want to know that. because if we are talking about justice i want to make sure that we are all on the same page about what that means. can we have a definition for justice. that's a real question. i would really like to hear an answer. >> they can't respond. >> good evening, my name is
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jeff. alex had many best friends. i have very little friends. he was my best friend. i have a lot of emotions right now but i'm trying to imagine how would alex behave. i know he would tell me have patience, never give up. there is going to be a brighter day. he was the hope in my life. alex was the hope in my life. so rather than get emotional, let measure share a couple of facts, things they don't know. you guys cleaned up the crime scene really well. you left his half eater burrito at the top of the hill. we have pictures of that. i imagine the frightened alex as the only brown person in the park being surrounded by police and he was being trained to be a police officer some day.
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secondly, someone came up to me and shared, jeff, i live right next to where the police were shooting. so, for the record, he said all i can see were cops in formation. no yelling. put your hands down, put your guns down. nothing. it was formation military style and gunshots. did you hear yelling? i heard nothing. you are 75 feet away. i'm going to yell pretty loud. i don't want to kill him, right? you can't tell how many bullets there were, but i can find a half eaten burrito. [ cheers and applause ]
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>> commission, chief, first i want to say thank you for helping me today. you helped me get alex's car back. thank you for that. what you heard yesterday about the taser and handcuffs and spray, that was something in his possession. but why didn't you show this? his security guard badge. he had a license to carry that taser and he might or might not i don't know if he did point it at officers. so, all i can say is do your investigation right. we need help in the outside. please get it. alex to me was my brother, not by blood, but by love and practice of
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buddhism. another question i have is from what point from the officers to this meeting right now that you realize that you made the biggest mistake of your lives? [ applause ] again, this is not implied to the commission or the chief not personally. it's implied to the officers. they personally killed alec, not you guys. for people saying they killed them, know you didn't. those officers, they killed alex, not you guys. to me alex was my other half and every night i can't go to sleep knowing he's not here anymore. i cry. i can't go to sleep. i do everything i can
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to go to sleep but i can because my brother is gone. >> good evening, my name is kim. i have to say those that were killed wouldn't want to see us here. when everyone's job is to protect our children. everyone. i'm disabled. i'm a victim of domestic violence. ended up here in the shelters because of domestic violence. i'm not a criminal and yet i have been treated like a criminal more times that i can count. i have to report crime when i have
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been ignored by police. monday night was one of those incidents in my building. there was a man beating a woman and i called police. i wanted to help with a report and i was ignored. totally ignored. i saw them walk out of the building and i found out this man lives in my building because now i feel in fear because when i threatened to call the police, he pulled a knife on me. i heard your police say they wanted to come out and talk to everybody. i am one of those people. just this week who tried to file a complaint. i respectfully ask everyone in this room. i have heard more prejudice in this room that i have heard about fight for our children. everyone go home tonight and look in the mirror, ignore the
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color of your skin. look at the people as human beings and they deserve to be treated as human beings. we need to protect them. not yelling at one another about whose fault it is. let's find some real solutions. >> first of all i would like to offer my condolences to alex's family and friends especially alex's dad who is sitting right there. this you for the opportunity to speak. i would like to ask a few more questions. after the incident why did police search alex house without a warrant? you would not have known, you would have known afterwards that you killed an innocent man, an innocent man where you try to fabricate evidence against alejandro. police
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flyers posted requesting witness es to come forward describe a man with a variety of weapons. the police description does not describe a man with a variety of weapons. by his own accounts he only had a lacer on him. these misrepresentations are being painted by the media and misrepresenting alex character. at the town hall why did the police say alex had a mental illness. why is that the case? why did the police chief mention at the town hall meeting that a witness saw a red jacket. how is that relevant to the case. at the town hall why did the police mention there was a restraining order against alex. how was this relevant to
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the case? they are completely irrelevant to the case. i would like to ask one more question which is are the officers legally required to carry guns at all times and if so, what will it take to change the laws so that most policing, most responses would happen with officers who do not carry any guns on him. thank you. [ applause ] >> good evening, everyone. my name is antonio arena. i'm here to speak on behalf of my friend alejandro. my condolences to l.a. familia nieto. alejandro, i knew him for a long time. for several years he went through ups and downs. i want to make sure that there are justice for him. he was a criminal
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justice major. he was studying justice. it is our responsibility in the community to make sure that there is justice for him as long as it takes years and years there is going to be justice for him. if it takes years to take those guns from all of these officers here so the majority are their work is going to be composed of non-violent work, work that we do in the community. the violence prevention work that we do in the community, we've had to deal with people that point guns to our faces, the violence prevention work that we do. there is a shotgun put to her face and she was verbally able to disarm the young man verbally with the gun to her face able to disarm him. and the police officers are not trained enough to do that. there is something definitely very wrong with this police department that
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you cannot able to disarm people verbally. that is the primary thing that they should be able to do is to talk. they are peace officers. buddhism is peace. that is what we will bring to this department to this state, to this nation is peace to you, to your lives, to all our community there will be peace. that is what alejandro worked for is peace. you ladies in the community take this to the ying and the yang. the ying being the words and the softness. that's what we need in this police force. we need the ying and the yang.
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>> i knew nothing about what the people spoke about. we saw police officers indicted. these officers were on the force and doing a lot of other thing. i'm going to present to you a case. i'm going to say the officers answered to complaints to take a very hard look. they need to have somebody who is responsible independent and redo all the cases that these officers were involved in and see what the result was. i'm sure if he was alive, the officers and civilian complaints need to take a good hard look. i challenge you to get an