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minutes rather than every 12. it also we believe would not be enough service necessarily into mission bay. then the last proposal was based on concerns we heard from customers on grand view. the 48 right now is one of our grid routes that we are trying to provide a straight of services possible from one end of the city to the other. in doing that there are some twist and turns it has to take because of the topography of going over the hill top between the sunset and knowey valley. the route was also taking a deviation into knowey valley to serve customers along the hill top. we had initially rerouted the 35 to
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cover hoffman and douglas. while that does provide some basic access for folks what we heard is they are really trying to make connections to 24th street as the commercial street as well as to j and bart. so what we recommended is that the 58 when it is adopted that it be extended to cover the stops up on grand view which are on a very steep hill top and that the 49 -- 48 would not move forward until the proposal is in played. the reason we recommend the 48 and not the 58 is the loop for the route and the others taking advantage of the service. right now it's in the middle of it's route and everybody in the bus is traveling through
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that 5 or 6-minute deviation as they try to reach other destinations. there were several routes that were modified prior to march 14th that the policy and governance committee supported and i do have those maps if any of those questions come up as a response to public feedback. over all for these proposals, their strength i believe is that not that they are going to be implemented but that they are complimented by capital as well as service management services and throughout process we'll continue to make refinement and improvements based on the feedback from the public and technical data. it's very much our intention to not wait for 30 years to do a tp. that we are using the processes for the network of the stakeholders that we've
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reached out to as well as the technical data to on going review and evaluation and to be bringing you much more frequently service improvements for your consideration. thank you. >> thank you and your entire staff for this outstanding work through all these years and particularly the outreach to the community taken place over the last year. i also want to thank our members of the governance and policy committee and for your work and your recommendations on the board. at this point we would ask members of the public -- >> chairman nolan, can i ask a question about the procedure. currently the proposal does not have the tag recommendation in it. we would have to amend it in it or is it the other way around. >> it has the tag recommendations. >> including the three lines where the proposals would be
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taken way. the tag recommendation are now in the proposals? >> yes. based on the tag, we e-mailed all the tag recommendations to the stakeholders that they understood they have been heard and saved them a trip here today. >> okay. ladies and gentlemen, members of the public, we are anxious to hear from you if it's helpful, if you fill out a speaker slip, not necessary but helpful for the minutes. who do we got? >> city clerk: betsy eedey. >> good morning, i'm betsy eddie president of the diamond heights community organization. we would like
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to thank the muni staff for recommending the revised 35 route and that would provide services to residents who live in affordable housing. with the work of many residents in diamond heights and glen park. 160 letters of support for the glen park bart station were submitted to muni including letters from the diamond heart association and association board. though we are pleased with most of the routes both the boards advocated not widening the streets. we request that you advise the routes and be revisited. i haven't heard any comments in favor of routing the 35 on
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wilder street but from anyone but muni. further exploring the route on muni would give to residents would think about routing at what the arlington residents would think about routing the 35 from arlington to diamond which would be all right turns instead of a route which is muni is proposing would be left turns which would be hard to maneuver in the glen park bart station. >> paul warner? >> good morning directors, my name is paul warner. i would like to start by thanking the staff and in particular mr. kennedy for the time they spent with us on the issue of the 3 jackson. i'm happy to
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see that. if you don't push your luck, it doesn't go anywhere. with respect to the three, i'm very concerned about two issues: one of them is the reliability of the service. i'm one of the regular users of the transit to plan trips and it's great. i can look the night before and tells me what time i need to get up to catch the bart. i'm surprised how many times the 3 pops up as the recommended route. in the morning when i get close to that schedule, that service doesn't exist. it's late, it maybe as much as 56 minutes late. that means i can't count on the 3 which begs the question when you are at
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your rider ship statistics how do you catch all the people who can not take the 3 because they can not rely on the schedule. that particularly plays into the proposal of cutting the evening service head way to 30 minutes. if one bus is missing, all of a sudden i'm an hour wait. that's painful in the evening. you are creating a real disincentive to plan travel that way. i think it's something that is obvious but it needs to be said expressly and not left implicit. >> alex long? >> my name is alex long. i would like to follow-up on what paul said. we are very much appreciative of what the staff and board have done to preserve the no. 3 jackson bus line. i wanted to highlight a
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couple items that we sent to you in a letter earlier this week and they deal with our concern about reducing frequency to better match customer demand. we strongly fear that the pros will reduce rider ship. the two propositions is one to do a survey of the no. 3 in the evening from the period reduced from 7-11. to better understand their needs. we would like to do it with the guidance and input of the mta. the second proposition we would like to make is that when you implement the frequency of no. 2 and reduce no. 3 frequency that you do it in sequence. you first
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increase the no. 2 and then we see what sort of rider ship impact this has on the no. 2 and no. 3. then you radio us the frequency in the no. 3. the concern is that going to an every 30-minute frequency head way on the no. 3 in the evening between 7-11 may very well kill the rider ship. thank you. we support your work. >> good morning to the board. my name is jarrod paxton. i have lived here for 40 years and active in efforts to resist the reduction of services the 3 jackson over the past three iterations of this. i would encourage the
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board reject the further reduction of service in the 3 jackson and i would like to give you two specific reasons for that. you heard today about the overall service improvements in muni, but believe me when we talk about the elimination of the 3 line neighborhood, it's not a service improvement. there has been incremental no. 1, changes over the years for the reduction of services in through jackson from running every 6 minutes to an hour which was being proposed now further. the middle of the day reduction from 12-15 minutes may mott seem much to you but it's yet another further small step. secondly we heard from the board that we weren titled to
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a compelling reason for elimination of the service on the 3 jackson. our small group pushed for that compelling reason and what the benefit was for the city for that reduction in service. and the best we got was to say that the two line on sutter street was over crowded and needed better service. in fact the 3 jackson has more on and offs and more rider ships on its route and no justification we've seen. i strongly encourage the board to reject tep. >> good morning, i'm barbara bocci and i live on jackson street and i want to thank you for saving the no. 3 jackson. i don't want to repeat what
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they have said. i agree with everything that they have said. i want to appeal to you to keep the schedule in a reliable fashion. keep it running as frequently as possible so not to strand the many elderly people riding the bus and students and workers that come in and out of the community. without the no. 3 jackson a lot of people will be stranded in that area and we'll not be able to have a nice transfer down to union street and the marina. thanks for saving the no. 3 jackson again and make it as efficient as possible. >> joe donahue? >> my name is rick. joe donahue is not here. >> rick lopez. good morning, i'm the president of the park
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association. i was not on the bus that tested the route. i echo the great community leader as well as i who handled the corridor in glen park. i'm happy that the rest of the route is approved but the 35 is not acceptable. it is one of the most busiest tiny streets and one of the safe havens for the community itself. we had a great big plan that was done and approved and took about 11 years to get that approved. actually glen park community plan has a bus loop and it is in front of the battery --
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bart station and nazi plan and that should be used. the statement of the cross corners of the community to reach bart is on wilder street. we have seen people get hit and thrown up in the air. it does not comply with your vision zero absolutely not. there is so many pedestrians that cross. this is a tiny street there. another thing is that the bus that stops there already at diamond and wilder actually comes into and blocks the out portion end portion of wilder and diamond. so it is not even a great design. the business communities do use the streets to drop off their stuff and do deliveries. we do this to keep the traffic flowing along the main streets on diamond so we are working to make things flow.
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>> thank you. >> thank you very much. >> john decastro? >> good morning, john decastro with portrero boosters association. we appreciate the effort of the mta team including the organization. one of the key things that my president asked know call forward it was fact that portrero hill has 8,000 additional housing units in planning that is not included in your thinking. that is another 15,000 people plus in potrero hill. this is going to have to be monitored very carefully. there were comments that there was extreme desire from portrero hill to mission bay by muni and that was heavily overstated. i walked
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to the ucsf gym to my house. it's to service mission bay, not potrero hill. keep that in mind. the 22 changes which i believe is called the 55, you have three steep blocks from 18th street down to 16th street. 16th street is also a freeway. the traffic, the p.d. can't control the traffic on 16th street. you have to get across on 16th street on the eastern side of the line. we also appreciate the increase of frequency on the 10. it's been desperately needed for years. it was cut back 3-4 years ago. hopefully that will happen quickly. second street to cal train is still a problem. you need to
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get pco's out there and mark the grids on the entrances and get people to stop stopping at intersection. it destroys the bus line every afternoon. the other one too. thank you very much. we'll continue to monitor this. i have a letter here. >> good morning. my name is chris road i live in glen park. i want to thank everyone for the opportunity to speak here and the work that's combon in the tep project. i'm strongly opposed obviously because i live on wilder street on the bus going down wilder and i'm against the idea of rerouting the 35 eureka without further discussion. i think any decision should be postponed with any meeting and public outreach scheduled well in
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advance. people impacted should be notified for rider ship along with forecast and targets should be reviewed. i noticed in the slide earlier one of the key points was data analysis. i don't believe that's part of the current planning process. it's not clear that rider ship forecast or targets were any type of planning has been performed in a scientific manner. once everyone has examined the problem we'll collectively find it doesn't do anything but perhaps to change to improve the reliability of 52 and diamond heights where they both share a common stop and today you can achieve the goal with muni bart with a 2-minute transfer. i have this all written. i'm going to leave a copy here. the 35 eureka has an average 900 riders a day and you get
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most riders. isn't muni supposed to plan changes delay buses before. aren't they supposed to plan before they make changes ? there has been discussions that muni will adjust the transit line so on after they have implemented the plan. it seems kind of back wards. shawn kennedy stated while we understand the concerns of these groups raised that the commercial aspect of the street double parking congestion. >> thank you, sir. >> i will leave a copy. thank you. >> good morning. i brought additional presentation. however the pdf is not working because the acrobat is not updated. as usually the muni is not up to speed. there is no outreach at laborers and
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businesses. there is none whatsoever. many of these are struggling immigrant businesses. for example the acupuncturist is severely impacted that this stopping in front of her business. before the 30th of january there were no documents available and no neighborhood outreach. not one meeting. there was not anybody that came around to various businesses and residents. how would you feel if we moved the engine and people are not going to be able to sleep and they are going to have a very difficult time and i'm going to have to move and i know the japanese restaurant is very upset. she gets very upset when i move the bash -- garbage cans in front of her place. the fact that hundreds are people are loitering in front waiting for the about
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us to go to outside lands or people disembarking at 1 choik 1:00 in the morning and screaming. i think we really need to reevaluate this program. i encourage you to vote no. i see very little or no minority representation of this board. i hope that you will remember that your parents were there as immigrants and what they have to go 32 -- through to struggle 12-15 hours a day and you have to say that you have done community outreach that you talked to people and you do not represent the people of this community. >> next speaker. >> good morning, i would like to thank the particularly the
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policy and governance committee of the organization for the time that you have put in on our request about the no. 6. i live on masonic avenue between waller and frederick and there are many many elderly people on our block. when we heard this was going to be discontinued there was many anger. we need to get down there for medical appointments and what have you. i would like to thank the changes that are the new recommendations of the policy and government committee and we look forward to continuing to use a very essential bus, not just for our block, but for the many people that live in the upper haight. >> thank you. next speaker.
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>> william passky. >> good moing, sir. >> i'm concerned about the traffic on 29. is it possible for traffic on 23rd street heading west to make a dog line and continue on 23rd street. it's also possible for traffic heading north to go right on 23rd street and head east. this diagram is not clear as to how the traffic will be rerouted. if it is possible to continue 23rd street east, the markings on the street will confuse the drivers. they will not know handout you to proceed. even now it's very confusing. i would like to bring this to your attention. >> next speaker? >> marvin sanders. yes, i
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would like to echo what ms. canyon said about the revised proposal to eliminate the rerouting of 6th and cover the upper haight area. we are concerned however that it's a matter of the devil being in the details, of course with the proposal to decrease frequency. i'm assuming that it's a frequency issue that's within the purview of this commission with the routing issue. it seems to me that the revised proposal to keep the 6 serving the upper haight area will be lossed by the diminution of the frequency of the buses. i would urge the commission to pay attention in that frequency. it seems not only to me during frequency during commute hours, but
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it's an all day issue. the bus services, the ucsf traffic and many other business institutions in that upper inner sunset area and decreasing frequency during the course of the day is going to seriously affect usage of the 6 barnsz. >> salvador cast ned a good morning. i'm here to express my gratitude and appreciation for the board for keeping the existing 23 masonic bus stop in place. i would like to stipulate late for the record and enter in the planning board map that was initially sent to us. i detect a slight
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ambiguity in the map here. thank you. >> patricia voi. the map has the actual stops on it and this does not. i want to thank you for rerouting this for our seniors. we also have another bus stop that you eliminated at union and broadway. seniors that have to go to the russian em cease as well as our seniors have to climb a mountain. that stop allows them to walk on flat land to both places. no. 3 is i was very very upset by the fact that when i called about this, i was told by the department, it's a done deal and you don't have to, you are not going to get it. i had to become a
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bulldozer and i don't like having to be forced into that. i was never called back or anything. after this last meeting i had to chase down kennedy for this drawing and asked him to put the stops on it. i don't want 10 years from now another board saying we didn't have the stops on it. i do not think this department is doing outreach. i was not notified of any of this. [ applause ] i also am very upset about the 30 stockton eliminating the parking places on this strip. which you are not taking into consideration to the tourist area. tourist don't just take muni and bark. they drive in and drive down the coast and they use their cars to go around town and there is no way of changing it. thank
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you. >> catherine shin i live on portrero avenue. 20th and portrero. i have two issues. one is that you are discontinuing and extending the 9 san bruno. there is no way that you can eliminate the 33. there is a lot of elderly people that use the 33 stan ton that go to the hospital on the other side of town. sometimes when the 9 doesn't come you use the 33 to go home. right now the 9 l does not stop between 16th and 24th street. you have to walk home
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basically. then the potrero avenue corridor landscape project began, we were not notified as the district as to what was happening until the second meeting happening. there was only 3 meetings. i went to the second and third meeting and we were told that this plan was already set up and the last meeting they reduced the number of parking spaces, but then realized or understand that there are emergency vehicles that come by on 20th street and goes all the way down from 20th avenue all the way down to guerrero. that's the only main artery that the emergency vehicles go through. i don't know how they are going through the potrero
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