commissioners. i am leo, and i live at developing environments and i am on the management board there, and i have taken quite a few photographs over the years of the upsets in the neighborhood. and i don't want to go through another five years of waiting for somebody to do something. to remove clubs that are sticking it to us every weekend. and i have to say that i am the person that called gary mitchell first because i wanted to know what was going on and it was on my own. and i didn't want to cross up with my neighbors by calling a public meeting. it was a personal thing, and i had to cancel it because i didn't want to give them the gift of community out reach without them doing anything. and i think that mitchell's intentions are good, i would like a good neighbor, and i want to be a good neighbor to them and i even at that

meeting, i asked him if he would cooperate with the neighbors, and with the coalition of neighbors, and business people to resolve what we need to do to have or to have the neighbors one to each other, and he nodded in agreement, of courser he would, well, of course he would. >> thank you. >> yes. >> and but, your time is up. >> thank you. >> and lox sme and jennifer ewing and tony williams. >> the situation has become in the restaurant and it is closed and i think that and i doubt that they will be able to have much control and it will be intoxicated with the alcohol and music and dance and then lurking on any of the areas of

the street. and so it comes after the fact. and so, in the meanwhile, the residents get woken up with the behavior the people and this is after the restaurant has closed and continue on with the fun mood and the likelihood of that turning into that and so that is my concern. >> thank you. >> jennifer ewing and tony and john. and if there is anyone else that wants to speak, please line up after that. >> good evening, everyone, thank you, and we are very special neighborhood as we can get any idea from the out pouring, and we are all very concerned and it does look like it is deserted buildings in a way and we have the big buildings that sometimes the people read them wrong and many, many times we have been yelling out of the window at 2:30 in the morning, go home, go home and there is many sleepless nights and i agree with all of the comments that have been said before me, and but i just want to say that we do have a special neighborhood that is in balance and this is

going to effect the balance in a very critical way, thank you. >> thank you. >> and tony, williams and john, thank you, commissioners. >> and first of all, as i would like to address mr. hyde's issue with the out reach, and they have been doing the out reach for every the month and a half now, with martin dupors. >> and could you speak into the microphone. >> over on patrero and this is something that we just started and unfortunately, gary got involved in the situation that he came in and he just recently came into this situation, and he is unfortunately getting... the brunt of it. but i do want to say that we do have all intentions and purposes of reaching out to the community and being very community friendly unfortunately we got a bad corner and i am well aware of what went on there with curculo and all of the problems that we

had there and we honestly feel like we can come in and be very, very productive in the neighborhood. thank you. >> thank you. >> and john, i live on the corner and i have been there since 1974 and i have been there since the dance company did the benefit for what was called gay cancer at the time and this is my neighborhood and i am the crazy person who said, that they or that they would get a permit and that i am approving a permit and i am going for a permit and my neighbors are looking at me like i am insane because they have done so many things wrong and you have all listed the many things that they have done wrong and i have sent you the letters and e-mails and telling you all of the terrible things and here i am telling you that i think that they need to be given a chance and so am i crazy? i don't think that i am because someone is going to get in

there and i have no control over it and i think that you can control these guys and i think that mark can control these guys, and i want to tell you when i came in here, and this committee is so different from the committee that i had to deal with with whispers and circulo and thank you for your service. and i think that they need to go back to the drawing board and very do a lot of specking and a lot of important work, but, somebody is going to go in there. and they have a steep learning curve. >> time is up, sir. >> thank you. >> is there any final public comment on this issue? >> please come on up. >> state your name and if there is none after this i am going to close the public comment. >> i am joan and i have a bottom floor space on alabama street around the corner and this is the time of whispers but i had five of my six windows broken and a gun was

found outside of my window,. with each subsequent club that goes in there and whatever the parties and there was may em until four in the morning with the parties i hope that is taken into consideration here. thank you. >> all right, thank you. >> is there any final public comment? >> i don't see any, so public comment is closed. the matter is now with the commission. >> commissioners i know that we have a touchy one. >> i would make it to deny this permit. i am going to make the motion to deny this permit. for many reasons, first of all in 1060.5 b.1, the correct posting was not done for the neighborhood, the way that was posted was absolutely incorrect. and then if we move on to section f, number 2, 5, and 6, it is about notwithstanding the

mitigation of provided under the public security plan, and if there is an unresolved citation, application to the premises, and if the chief of police, or the chief designated in person at the entertainment commission, hearing on the permit application or in writing objects to the granting of the permit on the basis that the commission should make one or more of the findings and i am not going to go on but i think that we found a lot and i have never moved to deny a permit. and i often try and believe that we live in an urban society and there is noise and there are ways to mitigate the issues and i do not believe that this permitee is available for that kind of action. and i hope that my commissions will indeed deny this permit. there is a motion to deny. >> and i will second that and i

would like to add 1060.5 fthree, the business lacks adequate safe guards to permit noise that will interfere with the neighboring property and i think that you have already proven to us that you can't control it. and you have been operating without a permit. >> all right, is there any discussion about this? >> any comments to... >> i think that... >> commissioner lee. >> i think that it is very clear that the applicant was... and i mean, that not very transparent in many ways, i think as you obviously you buy a business and you either know that you have to have a permit there or you don't. and i think that some people assume that because you buy a

business that has an entertainment permit, you can just assume that. but, everybody has to reapply, and new conditions can happen, based on the history of the venue previous to taking over. >> so, i think that i have to agree with the commissioners at this point is that and you have every right to appeal it, but, i have to stay with them. >> and i usually don't deny a permit, and i am in the industry, but in this case, it is totally unprepared. >> this is a question to the staff, or cami, if we deny the permit, is the only recourse to go to the board of appeals, or could they come back in a year and say that we have another. >> they can go to the board of appeals or they can come back in one year. >> okay. >> got it. >> any other comments from commissioners? >> i just want to say that for me, this is not about any venue that was there before.

because this is a new owner and operator, this is about them how they presented themselves today, and what they have been doing since they have been opened up until this time. >> and i would concur with that. and i think that we have, as a commission, we have often given the benefit of the doubt to the applicant and said, hey, they might have been a horrible business with the previous owner, but, this new owner seems like a manager has a new plan and as a new way of approaching it and can address all of the things that we care about here. and in my time here, we have not denied one and so this will be interesting, if we all vote for it. >> yeah. >> go ahead. >> so, this means that for a full year, that they can't apply. >> and i guess, it seems harsh to me that i feel like

regardless even though we say that we are not taking into consideration the two previous businesses, i feel like it has had an influence on the atmosphere and the feedback that we have gotten from everyone tonight. i am not saying that i disagree with the decision, i think that it is disappointing, because i like to see that people have an opportunity to make changes,, and i think that there are a lot of reasons why people could get up here and say that they don't know something. without it being mal feasan or manipulation, and there could be a lot of reasons. and and i would like to give the people the benefit of the doubt, and we have been in situations before where we have seen very similar answers or behavior or lack of out reach or lack of thoroughly completing the application to

or address all of the issues that we bring up and we have still given them some kind of opportunity that is less than a year to make amends to work with the community, more diligently, to try harder. to impress upon them how serious this is. and how serious we take our requirements. and in a year is a really long time, that is basically saying, you are not going to have a business. >> commissioner joseph? >> so just, to that point, they are a restaurant, and they will be able to continue to operate as a restaurant, and a bar. they can put on an ipod. and have complimentary music. i don't know what the, or if they came to apply for a different permit like an llp and i don't know if that will

be not allowed, because it is an absolutely different permit. but, in no way, are we impacting their primary business by not allowing them to do sunday fun day. and i mean that is my opinion. on this. >> and commissioner hyde? >> and i just wanted to also, just to reiterate what commissioner jaef has said and i mean that i understand that a year is harsh and having never denied or asked to deny a permit before, i understand the harshness of it and i just think that you know, i really did not take into consideration what had happened there before, because i am not actually really well versed in it. and i did receive the e-mails, however, what i heard were people who at this time are unprepared to accelerate entertainment in that position. i believe in a year if they were to come back, they would be able to elevate and have

some entertainment possibly, if they learn what they should be doing. what i saw is people who are unprepared and who have impacted the neighborhood without a license, and really have no great remorse about it. and had a community out reach meeting the night before this happened hoping to come in here and get the permit. is what i saw. and these are reasons why i do not believe that they didn't post correctly and they did not behave correctly and there is no reason to reward that kind of behavior. >> commissioner akers? >> so this will be an opportunity for the applicant to work more diligently with the community, and the neighbors, particularly, and not just the people that are coming to eat at the restaurant, bup the people who have been impacted the most severely impacted in the evening hours and when they are trying to sleep or the fear

that i heard, and it sounds like, either they have a year to work on this, diligently and seriously, or possibly, apply for a different type of permit. or, commissioners, they could appeal this... >> right >> or appeal the decision. >> right. >> and that will be at the board of appeals. >> and the board of appeals would probably want to see similar resolutions with the community. >> right. >> and i think that we have, and the conversation around the motion they have already cited specific kind of parts of the code that we are using as rationale for not allowing it. and i mean that i do think and i appreciate commissioner akers point because i think that we have continued items for like six months and some time of a duration less than a year. that is an option if people want to do that. >> is that an option. >> no. >> we have. >> we can't.

>> okay >> six months. >> you can continue this. >> for two weeks. >> two weeks. >> the permit must be decided within 45 days of the posting. and they come here 30 days, and they get and we can continue it once, they can continue it for longer periods of time but we can continue it once. >> that is what i am referring to. >> we have given the people conditional. >> we have given them conditional ones with limited periods. >> to make amends or to do better >> right >> so i think that wril wrap up the discussion, and commissioner lee could you do. >> and i mean, how do you feel about giving them two weeks to try to work it out with them? >> if is futile and they have to go to the board of appeals and be better repaired than coming with what we just did just now. >> i would not accept that and i would like my motion to stand as stated. >> the motion is to deny the

permit and there was a second. >> on that motion. >> take the vote. >> on the motion to deny the permit. eperez. >> aye. >> akers. >> no. >> hyde. >> aye. >> joseph. >> aye. >> lee. >> aye. >> commissioner campagnoli. >> aye. >> president tan. >> aye. >> so, it is 6-1, to deny, the permit. >> all right, so the motion passes. let's move on, thank you, everyone in the public to come out and speak today. >> our next item is item 6, which is just commissioner comments and questions. commissioners? anyone say anything? >> i thought that our i had a great time on saturday, i thought that was a really good meeting thanks for everyone for coming and for the staff for putting it together. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> any other commissioner comments. >> thank you. and the lunch was good.

>> yeah, the lunch was great. >> it was great. >> lunch box. >> i had garlic breath for hours. >> yeah. >> commissioner perez. >> is it possible to have a second one this year for another and not a retreat just an off site meeting? >> i will bring that up to the executive director. >> and hash out things and talk about things. more informally? >> sure. >> i will bring that up with her. >> so you are not talking about an official tuesday night meeting, you are talking about a retreat. >> okay. >> and any other commissioner comments and questions. >> is there any public... >> yeah? >> were you going to say anything? >> is there any public comment on how fabulous our retreat was. >> all right. >> let's move on to item 7, new business request for future agenda items. >> okay, so i have two, i would like to schedule in maybe a month and a half, a formal discussion about party buses here at the commission.

>> all right. so mid may? >> mid nai may would be great. >> and i don't have a date but i don't want it to be six months down the road. and then also, i know that we had talked that there are a lot of incomplete applications and i would like the staff to start to take actions on those applications. >> you got it. >> could you share with the commissioners list of who those people are. >> i can't off of the top of my head, but i will have a list for you the next meeting. >> that is too bad you don't have a spread sheet in your mind. >> almost does, i think. >> dart board. >> electronic dart board. >> any public comment to the future agenda items >> come to the summit. >> and any quick announcements. >> come to our summit next monday, april 7 from one to four p.m. at the main library and we will have a lot of

topics. >> and we will talk about who is going to be there. >> sure. who is... >> who is planning to go? >> i am. >> i don't have to go. >> so she specifically requested and tell her the times and hours that you going so she can tell you when. >> it is a public meeting, is it not. >> it is public. >> and so we can be there. >> okay. >> it was going to be a problem and that we could go. >> and we go. >> and so it is a public meeting. >> all right. >> have a good night, this meeting is now adjourned.

>> hi today we have a special edition of building san francisco, stay safe, what we are going to be talking about san francisco's earth quakes, what you can do before an earthquake in your home, to be ready and after an earthquake to make sure that you are comfortable staying at home, while the city recovers. ♪ >> the next episode of stay safe, we have alicia johnson from san francisco's department of emergency management. hi, alicia thanks to coming >> it is a pleasure to be here with you. >> i wonder if you could tell us what you think people can do to get ready for what we know is a coming earthquake in san francisco. >> well, one of the most things that people can do is to make sure that you have a plan to communicate with people who live both in and out of state. having an out of state contact,

to call, text or post on your social network is really important and being able to know how you are going to communicate with your friends, and family who live near you, where you might meet them if your home is uninhab hitable. >> how long do you think that it will be before things are restored to normal in san francisco. >> it depends on the severity of the earthquake, we say to provide for 72 hours tha, is three days, and it helps to know that you might be without services for up to a week or more, depending on how heavy the shaking is and how many after shocks we have. >> what kind of neighborhood and community involvement might you want to have before an earthquake to make sure that you are going to able to have the support that you need. >> it is important to have a good relationship with your neighbors and your community. go to those community events, shop at local businesses, have a reciprocal relationship with them so that you know how to

take care of yourself and who you can rely on and who can take care of you. it is important to have a battery-operated radio in your home so that you can keep track of what is happening in the community around and how you can communicate with other people. >> one of the things that seems important is to have access to your important documents. >> yes, it is important to have copies of those and also stored them remotely. so a title to a home, a passport, a driver's license, any type of medical records that you need need, back those up or put them on a remote drive or store them on the cloud, the same is true with any vital information on your computer. back that up and have that on a cloud in case your hard drive does not work any more. >> in your home you should be prepared as well. >> absolutely. >> let's take a look at the kinds of things that you might want to have in your home. >> we have no water, what are we going to do about water? >> it is important for have extra water in your house, you

want to have bottled water or a five gallon container of water able to use on a regular basis, both for bathing and cooking as well as for drinking. >> we have this big container and also in people's homes they have a hot water heater. >> absolutely, if you clean your hot water heater out regularly you can use that for showering, drinking and bathing as well >> what other things do people need to have aren't their home. >> it is important to have extra every day items buy a couple extra cans of can food that you can eat without any preparation. >> here is a giant can of green giant canned corn. and this, a manual can opener, your electric can opener will not be working not only to have one but to know where to find it in your kitchen. >> yes. >> so in addition to canned goods, we are going to have fresh food and you have to preserve that and i know that we have an ice chest. >> having an ice chest on hand

is really important because your refrigerator will not be working right away. it is important to have somebody else that can store cold foods so something that you might be able to take with you if you have to leave your home. >> and here, this is my very own personal emergency supply box for my house. >> i hope that you have an alternative one at home. >> oh, i forgot. >> and in this is really important, you should have flashlights that have batteries, fresh batteries or hand crank flashlight. >> i have them right here. >> good. excellent. that is great. additionally, you are going to want to have candles a whistle, possibly a compass as well. markers if you want to label things if you need to, to people that you are safe in your home or that you have left your home. >> i am okay and i will meet you at... >> exactly. exactly. water proof matches are a great thing to have as well.

>> we have matches here. and my spare glasses. >> and your spare glasses. >> if you have medication, you should keep it with you or have access to it. if it needs to be refrigerated make sure that it is in your ice box. >> inside, just to point out for you, we have spare batteries. >> very important. >> we have a little first aid kit. >> and lots of different kinds of batteries. and another spare flashlight. >> so, alicia what else can we do to prepare our homes for an earthquake so we don't have damage? >> one of the most important things that you can do is to secure your valuable and breakable items. make sure that your tv is strapped down to your entertainment cabinet or wall so it does not move. also important is to make sure that your book case is secure to the wall so that it does not fall over and your valuable and breakables do not break on the ground. becoming prepared is not that difficult. taking care of your home, making sure that you have a few

extra every-day items on hand helps to make the difference. >> that contributes dramatically to the way that the city as a whole can recover. >> absolutely. >> if you are able to control your own environment and house and recovery and your neighbors are doing the same the city as a whole will be a more resilient city. >> we are all proud of living in san francisco and being prepared helps us stay here. >> so, thank you so much for joining us today, alicia, i appreciate it. >> absolutely, it is my pleasure. >> and thank you for joining us on another edition of building >> we came to seven straight about 10 years ago. -- 7th street about 10 years

ago. the environment is huge. it is stronger than willpower. surrounding yourself with artists, being in a culture where artists are driving, and where a huge amount of them is a healthy environment. >> you are making it safer. push, push. that is better. when i start thinking, i see it actually -- sometimes, i do not see it, but when i do, it is usually from the inside out. it is like watching something being spawned. you go in, and you begin to work, excavate, play with the dancers, and then things began to emerge. you may have a plan that this is what i want to create. here are the ideas i want to

play with, but then, you go into the room, and there maybe some fertile ideas that are becoming manifest that are more interesting than the idea you had initially set out to plan. so there has to be this openness for spontaneity. also, a sense that regardless of the deadline, that you have tons of time so the you can keep your creativity alive and not cut it off and just go into old habits. it is a lot like listening. really listening to watch what is going to emerge. i like this thing where you put your foot on his back. let's keep it. were your mind is is how you build your life. if you put it in steel or in failure, it works. that works. it is a commitment. for most artists, it is a

vacation and a life that they have committed themselves to. there is this notion that artists continue to do their work because of some kind of the external financial support. if that was taken away, artists would still do their art. it is not like there is a prerequisite for these things to happen or i will not do it. how could that be? it is the relationship that you have committed to. it is the vocation. no matter how difficult it gets, you are going to need to produce your art. whether it is a large scale or very small scale. the need to create is going to happen, and you are going to have to fulfill it because that is your life.