you are really thinking about integrating with the neighborhood, that possibly you should think about beyond what you want to do, and what the situation is in that neighborhood and how your actions would impact that neighborhood. and personally, just from the history that we have heard up until now, i am not really, feeling that that was taken into consideration, and my position here, is to integrate into the neighborhood fabric and the neighborhood establishments. >> and i completely understand that. and as i said, that we go about this the absolute correct way? >> no. i got a name a couple of weeks ago and i called a gentleman and i thought that we had a meeting set sxup then it was canceled which i understand because it was a spur of the moment let's do this and then as the other things came out, i figured and we found out that we need to put up a flier and try to have the meeting,

unfortunately it happened the night before we were here. and but again, that is why we end that meeting last night. >> okay. >> and put it into place to do a monthly meeting. >> so then i wanted to ask you, if you could not set up a meeting, did you look for the neighborhood organizations in that area, that were having meetings of their own. so that you could do the out reach in that way? >> i tried to find out, and i tried to get to find out. >> how did you try to find out >> it was the same out reach with that same gentleman and then there were on that night as well, there were one other, young lady came into the place and i tried and we spoke for about 30 minutes and again, we tried to find. >> do you know what district you are in in san francisco. >> mission. >> the mission district. >> do you know that there is a supervisor's office for that area. >> i know that now. >> did you call the supervisor's office and ask about the community and neighborhood out reach? >> i did not. >> okay.

>> thank you. >> so it sounds like your sunday fun day only operates until 9:00 and your attorney actually said that you want the permit until midnight is there a reason for that. >> to sustain our business and an opportunity to create revenue, we want to be able to rent the building out on any given night that someone wants it up until midnight. again, all of that is done in house and we don't bring in any promoters and we sit with whoever wants to place, and we talked to them about what they want to do and we give the yes, or the no. as to whether it will happen or not. >> and are you familiar at all with our limited live performance permit? >> so you have another permit. >> okay. >> that is a little bit more restrictive and you don't need a sound system but the hours are limited to earlier in the evening and you will have to close by ten or entertainment by ten and it is not saying that you have to do community out reach and you still need to

do all of that, but of a different nature and that is something to consider and i know that is not what you are applying for today, if without a speaker system it is hard to assess your sound issues. and until to even do a noise metering. so there is a challenges with us trying to permit this without all of the kind of pieces together. and commissioner perez. >> i just wondered did you have a conversation with the previous owner of this establishment and kind of get an idea of what you are getting into with the community. >> no. >> i did not. >> and just because you did not, you are not interested, or... >> a lot of this came to my attention after the gentleman from the entertainment commission came in. the ignorance of the law i understand is no excuse. but as i move forward and understand the parameters that we have to work in, i mean, as i said, from the time i left

the commission's office a week ago i have been doing a lot of reading and making sure that i am as abreast as i possibly can on everything that i need to do. and my job, and brought into this is to make sure that everything that we do, is up right, and the way that it should be done, and that is the only way i know so when the things don't happen that way, it really irritates me. so i am doing everything within my power now, and doing the reach out to the community, correctly and trying to rectify to meet once a month and last night giving them my cell phone number and my e-mail and everything that you need to get in touch with me because i have nothing to hide. i don't want you to feel that he are trying to do anything... and so i am trying to do all of that. >> thank you. my other question is could you give us the specific information about your sound and your sound proofing that you plan to do?

>> we want to get a sound system put in that is our sound system and then build the panels, in the roof. now that is just something that i have done research on that i have looked up. is that the best plan? i don't know. bringing in someone that is what they do, is what our intentions is to do. with the sound system, as well as with the panels, so when we look at doing the panels or the sound system, they will have to work together, because it does not make any sense for us to get a sound system and then have the guy come in and put in a panel and say that this is not going to work. >> you have to figure out a way if the noise is emanating outside. >> you said that you will have the smoking area outside. >> yes. >> how are you, containing the noise when people are going in and out smoking in >> any time on a sunday fun day or night events, we do have the night security that do come in and there is one or two

security guards always outside and we have put the smoking and someone wants to smoke, to the right of the building. and away from the residents. and then we have if there is a line to get in, the line is on the other side in our security is always admonishing the ladies and gentlemen either smoking or in line, to drop the noise level. >> what about the noise itself? i mean once the people open the door they want to go smoking, so how will you insure that the noise will not be you know, emanating outside? >> yeah, we don't allow anyone to stand in the doorway with the door open. we make sure that the door does not remain open. >> let's try to wrap up the commissioner comments. >> and with all due respect, it just seems to me that a knowledgeable business person or a person wanting to protect

their investment will invest gate what they need to do in order to have a business. any business. shoe, store, restaurant nightclub, any business, that is what i think that a person who, if that is a person who do. i am so uncomfortable with the fact, and i am an industry rep, i am so uncomfortable with the fact that your answers are primarily i don't know, i am not aware, i don't know, i am not aware. it makes me feel like you may be a public safety problem. and i just, i just don't know how i can vote for a permit, when most of the answers are i don't know, i don't know, i don't know. and you just mentioned something when commissioner perez talked to you about the sound panel that is something to say that i don't know. i just am so, and i have never, i want you to know that you are the first person that i have

ever said this to, i have been on this commission eleven years in june and i have never said this before, i am so uncomfortable with your i don't know and i feel like your other partners who have been operating before you came on board, should be here to answer those questions if you had just came on board and truly don't know. so i feel really uncomfortable with this. and i just wanted to say that. >> commissioner campagnoli. >> i agree with the commissioner and i am uncomfortable with it as well, and i would like to know, are you a vested owner this business. >> yes, ma'am. >> and you have two partners. >> yes, ma'am. >> why are they not listed on

the application. again, i moved in and i am telling you i don't know to things that i don't want to make-up stories and lie to you about, and the fact is that i don't know, but with that, i say to you, i will still send out and make sure that those things get done. i understand that you are saying that i did not do enough out reach to make sure that the community was involved in what you were doing and trying for be successful and absolutely not in terms of being, a, a risk to the public. and so,... >> may i ask you one more thing, who is named on the abc

license >> it is esus spears. >> okay, and he is with the department. >> and he operates the oakland location? >> yes, ma'am. >> and he will not be on the premises in san francisco. >> and he will occasionally be there. >> okay. >> occasionally. >> but primarily i will be there. >> i am going to limit the public comment to two minutes and, we have a packed house here and so thank you. thank you. >> it has been so long. >> and it has. >> it is april fools.

>> and i want to thank you, because you have addressed many of my concerns in my questions, however, since i did take the time to write a whole page speech type single space, i am going to continue and reiterate the things that you have already said and so bear with me. >> last week, at a meeting, with myself, that i have coordinated with mr. mitchell, the lu and the directors and cami and josyln. and mr. mitchell did the same thing that he did tonight, exactly. and he put in ignorance and i am not buying it for somebody as he pointed out his normal business experience of 23 years, and in the industry, and as a banquet coordinator for the ritz karl ton. >> when i asked him if he understand it with the license, he appeared with a blank stair and he was informed that this was and he was informed that this was the liquor license.

and i said, do you know what your 47 is. >> and he looked at me and said that is your liquor license. >> and mr. mitchell did not have a greater understanding of what prijs and restrictions holds. i asked him about the numerous club references in the security plan that he submitted to the entertainment commission and it is a restaurant that is my confusion to the references. and submitted just the other day and amended and the security plan that deleted all of the club references to the restaurants. and that is a similar, plan, and there is a typo. and it will monitor the street

and in that security plan and it is sort of in the street and not the fillmore. it is nowhere near not even in the district. >> he advised that no

entertainment can be held until it is issued. in the police code, mr. mitchell decided that it was better business to hold unpermitted events on march second, 16th and 23rd than to abide by the law he stated to us that he had to make a business decision he has been holding these events since june, sunday fun day every sunday give or take one. i am concerned that this is the kind of business that we can expect. and i have been working in the capacity of mission station permit officer for two years. and in that time, commission has never asked for the denial of a permit and only has questioned the qualifications as llps and tonight, if you

grant this permit, i hope that you do so with the resolve to enforce the conditions and hold it accountable for the violations for the permit and i was wondering if i could use this thing? >> i think that they turn it on from the other room. >> have you to put something on it. >> i am going to put something on it. >> and you are calling. >> what do you have to do? >> oh, is that warming up? >> so. this is, the injury and the picture and talk into the microphone, and this is the interior that he set up

beautifully with the restaurant with table and chairs and table clothes and this is march 23rd. sunday, fun day and i have seen no tables and i see no chairs and i can scarcely see that i see the food sales and this was a decision that mr. mitchell made, after he was advised that he could not have entertainment >> what is the capacity? >> 225 standing. >> my question to you, and to you. >>

i dig and i look for things and i try to inform myself so i don't make a fool of myself when i come up here and i found out and i got a copy of the lease agreement for it, and the leaseholders are called, real, and real restaurants. and as in sosolito and in the lease agreement, which i have before me and you may have if you wish, it states, agreed use, the premise should be used and occupied as a restaurant for a full service bar and for no other purpose, it shall nod be used in any other manner that interferes with the quiet enjoyment of the neighborhood or the adjoining bakery business, they shall sees all business operations by 12 a.m.. and seize all business, the failure to close, by this time will constitute a default. and it reads and it is a little

bit, and it is short but it is a little bit, wordy for law language, and but, i will explain that it was explained to me. the sublease agrees that the violation specified in 6.1 will cause harm to the subleasor that cannot be remediated by an action of law for money damages. and sublet's will be entitled as a matter of right to injunction from any court of jurisdiction and restraining, any violation, and they have said that they have already been by the subleasor and they are not interested in monetary damages and you violate it again and you are out and i spoke to scott gelespi e who is the man in charge of this lease. and he has made it very clear to me that they have been poor tenants and they are interested in the tom foolry, and so i am done. >> do you know if they are

getting evicted. >> if they are in violation of this lease agreement and that means of the food, beverage served after midnight and the doors opened after midnight and they are done in that and they don't want to sue and settle again. >> thank you. >> and so, take it that you don't want any of these conditions on this permit? >> no. >> you don't... >> like it to be denied. >> and number five was taking into consideration, there was a tremendous out reach from the neighborhood to me, and i took into consideration their needs and i was trying to put together something that would work for the neighborhood, but, given the toet totality of everything i don't think that they are going to be responsible. >> cami, do you know whether the entertainment commission, because i thought that i knew this but i think that i forgot, whether the entertainment

commission is required to abide by some private civil contract between the person applying for the permit and their landlord? i mean, would we be prohibited. and do you know the answer? >> i know that in the circumstances the entertainment commission does not get involved in the landlord tenant situations. >> when i spoke to him he said that regardless of what the entertainment permit states is that they are going to deal with it separately, on their terms. fill one out if you plan to speak, and could i just do a quick show of hands, how many of you here are speaking in opposition to this permit?

>> okay. >> and how many people are here in favor of this permit? >> a few people. all right. >> and so, if you feel like the person before you has said that what you stated, we are trying to keep it here and i think that you understand sort of you may understand where we are coming from. >> so i am going to first call up wendy gill more and robert paxton and then dina corilo. excuse me. so the first is wendy gill more and the limit is one minute. >> okay i got it right here. >> thank you. >> hello commissioners, nice to see everybody. i basically wanted to just state that there are several false and incomplete information that submitted with this application. and my biggest concern is with the sound, and that was

mentioned on page 3 that sound proofing had been done five years ago, is what it is stated however, that sound proofing was removed. and the sound proofing that circulo installed was removed when they moved in and so the windows are opened and it is going to be hard. and the other was there is no metered parking on the streets and that is not true on page 4 and five and then finally the out reach, basically the picture i want to use that little thing too. and this is how the first and this is the way that the permit was posted. when we first got wind of it. you can't read what is posted or requested. and so, it is i am in favor of denying it. >> thank you. >> if i called your name please go ahead and line up and we will take on the folks immediately after, if you are first bell that means that you have 30 seconds left, robert, >> hi, i am robert and thank

you for hearing me and i want to say that all of your good neighbor sheet about what to do, they didn't do any of it, there was absolutely zero out reach, other than immediately across the street we were really pailed by them and we don't want it to happen again and, two and a half or a week and a half ago they had one of their sunday fun days where they had a chance to show us that they could do it right it was a disaster. people peeing, drunks all over the neighborhood, all kinds of stuff *. and it was just awful, and last night i went to the meeting and they said that we are going to do it right and they are saying trust us, and i see no reason to do so. thank you. >> thank you. >> and dena, and then beso, and bill mcclelen. >> i am sorry if i pronounce it wrong. >> hi, thanks for listening to us tonight and i am opposed to the granting of the permit and i am opposed because i feel the

space is incompatible for a nightclub and the applicants have not done any of the proper out reach, and on the idea of having salsa and having a fun night and having a place to go, where you can eat and dance, everybody thought, great, we were actually thought that would be really cool. we want a vibrant neighborhood. and what ends up happening in our neighborhood, looks not like a fun, urban environment and it looks like daytona beach spring break that is what it looks like, and we are talking about just streets clogged, and driveway and doughnuts in the middle of the street and side shows. of course the vomit and the pis and all that have happens as well. but it is not the kind of urban neat, cool, fun, entertainment that we are hoping for. it is really something that feels like patrons gone wild and very out of control. >> thank you.

>> okeef and karin guest sorry it is hard to read. >> macelheny. i live on the first floor on the alabama street right around the corner of the location that we are talking about. and because of where i have seen a lot of action, and on march 23rd, i unfortunately witnessed two men, shovel, i presume an intoxicated woman into a car and take her off and i called the police, and but they were too busy. and you know, and this is the kind of thing that i don't want to witness. thank you. >> thank you. >> bill, you are next and then karin quest and susan kutor. >> thank you. good evening. actually i don't know why i am doing this because everybody said pretty much everything that i wanted to say, i felt

primarily, that this, that they have been deceptive about everything that they did and it is so-called a restaurant morping into a club and with all of the bad things that came around from that. and by sunday, it was really a nightmare and it just brought back some very ugly memory to me and i think that this permit should be declined. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> we have ken guest and susan cutor and leo germ ano. >> and don't start yet. >> don't worry. >> i am nervous. thank you for hearing me. okay, i am just going to go random points. gary, i am so sorry, i can't remember his name. >> mr. mitchell said that the buildings are tucked away, that

is completely false, we are right there, people have and i live one block away from where the people come and park their screaming, they are screaming when they go in and they are screaming when they come out. i think and i i think that to expect people to oh, keep your voices down and respect the neighbors, fat chance. also, i phoned twice sunday that was really noisy, and it was so noisy that the woman could not hear me when she answered the phone and i called twice and then i thought that i would call them and call the police but i did try to reach out to the restaurant first. hello, click. >> thanks. >> thank you. >> susan cutor and leo gurm ano and loxsme. >> susan, and thank you. i just have mixed feelings about it, i obviously i am a

neighbor, and my general feeling is fear about what is coming with this and i initially very happy to have a new business there, and enjoy it and hearing the music for my person and i am right away the street and a couple of windows down and it has only been, you know, the more recent months when the, i forget the exactly how it was worded but the rentals into the things outside of the normal, activity, and food and music. and it would bring another element. and i have literally have had a bullet through my window on the ground floor, and i have experienced people getting beaten on the other side of my window and things that really scare me and i had not experienced that up until the recent months because the other elements have returned and so you know, i wish that it could work the way that it is

intended or could be intended. >> thank you. >> leo and lox and then jennifer ewing. >> and good evening, commissioners. i am leo, and i live at developing environments and i am on the management board there, and i have taken quite a few photographs over the years of the upsets in the neighborhood. and i don't want to go through another five years of waiting for somebody to do something. to remove clubs that are sticking it to us every weekend. and i have to say that i am the person that called gary mitchell first because i wanted to know what was going on and it was on my own. and i didn't want to cross up with my neighbors by calling a public meeting. it was a personal thing, and i had to cancel it because i didn't want to give them the gift of community out reach without them doing anything. and i think that mitchell's

intentions are good, i would like a good neighbor, and i want to be a good neighbor to them and i even at that meeting, i asked him if he would cooperate with the neighbors, and with the coalition of neighbors, and business people to resolve what we need to do to have or to have the neighbors one to each other, and he nodded in agreement, of courser he would, well, of course he would. >> thank you. >> yes. >> and but, your time is up. >> thank you. >> and lox sme and jennifer ewing and tony williams. >> the situation has become in the restaurant and it is closed and i think that