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wanted to achieve consensus but the fire department was not going to back down. >> ultimately the agency that's responsible for making sure that our streets are safe you guys took that action and leg last day those curbs changes i was pleased to see that. with respect to the puc i'll give you my view the puc has taken the position if a bulb out is being built over water pipes it's the mta responsibility to pay to move those water pipes so they're not under the bulb out is a significant expense on the mta and frankly it's not necessary to move the water pipes it's for the future
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theoretical convenience of the puc if in 20 years they need to reach the pipe they don't want to dig underneath the sidewalk but underneath the streets that are a significant burden that the project sponsors from doing those bulb outs for a savings for the puc when frankly when you're doing a bulb out they can look at the pipes and see if it's old and switch it out and did do it. many cost shouldn't be passed on. i don't know if this is the future of a future hearing in terms of enforcement i know i held a hearing last year about double parking enforcement and -- excuse-me. i should say the total lack of parking
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enforcement not only a sf pd issue they are the aggressive tools it is necessary sometimes a delivery truck has no way to pull over but we all see that everyday. the delivery trucks that clearly they have a place to pull over and don't both it's laziness it's easier to park in the middle of the street and cabs that pickup and drop off they can pull over but stop in the middle of the street and people who park their cars in the middle of the street to run errands it's a problem it blocks muni and but in particular people verify bike lanes as an open in violation to use it as a
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parking stall so bikes are forced into traffic. i've not seen any change we see double parking still if you can address that i hope we can address that >> i'll say a couple of things i think we should bring it back new york has made double parking part of their zero vision parking they've put out information and new york and d.c. are leading in this area in terms of managing deliveries and managing the need for a double parking they have some fantastically strategies but we needed operational strategies for how to incentivize delivers
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in the right way and i think we can bring those for a future meeting that's fantastic. >> new york also limits the size of the delivery trucks that enter the city i think we should do that. some of the delivery trucks are so large if their double parking their literally blocking the entire lane of traffic and sometime the other lanes i think we should consider size restrictions on delivery trucks in san francisco >> thank you. i think those are important points and that came up in the commuter shuttle particularly in neighborhoods that the streets are narrow mta
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through it's policies can regularly many of the large vehicles on your streets. >> supervisor yee. >> thank you supervisor wiener for your comment about parking. it's about enforcement and educating people it's not a matter of just i'm going to save a few seconds but endangering people. early chair kim you had discussion around the projects and i think in regards to look at those 24 projects or 33 depends upon which number you want to use but we need to document each of the steps for each projects and the timeline it takes for each step and
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document when there is some stalling because of whatever reasons we indicate what it is. if you look at one project at that time, it's hard to get a partner of what to fix but once we see in this particular element of the project seems to be also the bottom part we need to do an analysis so that's my comment as you go for those projects you document every step >> thank you, commissioner supervisor mar. >> some kind of flow chart to understand the barriers to each project would be helpful and maybe the transportation authority staff could help with
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that we're not only looking at the barriers that maybe slowing down a project but for those who are not fund by ideas from the transportation authority from mta and other strategies how to get all the priorities funded. i'll ask if there are serious accidents on other streets not within the prioritized projects what's the process they're worried their 4 to 5 years old but what's our recommendations on other dangerous corridors >> one clarifying question are you interested in seeing what we think the bottom x will be for those or you're interested in the patterns of bottle in the case on project. >> i think for supervisor yee
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for those 24 projects i think that's what you're suggesting. >> sure. >> and perhaps the mta could help with that that's a enter departmental issue. >> i think it will be good to do a little bit of back casting here are 10 similar projects that are already in the ground $0.83 let's look at the parents it will be hard to predict where the bottle necks can e be supervisor wiener said it's hatred hard to predict where at that they'll come from but i can bring back the timelines. i think we can share with you so we can be tracking them each time we could be those kinds of
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things. and then your other question was about the crashes that happen there's a certain randomness to travel fatalities that's where the culture shift is important we can focus our efforts but at the mta we have a safety engineer that's in the traffic operation group - and almost exactly a month ago was a serious wtdz a 5 year-old and babysitter at almost the exact same place and 24 hours ago you're saying that random perhaps >> i'm not saying that it's hard to come up with a perfect high injury network there will be things happen and the safety net in place to get the crash
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reports from the police department and we investigate them in our traffic operations group immediately and try to go out and see if we can fix the conditions on the street. i'm suggesting that it is all but impossible to anticipate every issue which is why the culture of slowing down and being important tentative is taking care of each other is a part of vision zero that automated speed we can't have police there >> i'm all for about nice and look twice and you're saying and nicole 134ird saying look at d.c. and portland that are showing strong strong support as we faced 3 hours ago and .
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>> in chicago they're thinking that will produce more revenue. if a crash happened when a driver is traveling between 20 miles per hour we're not going to see the severity and the fatality rates right now when people make mistakes >> supervisor breed. >> i agree we need to start working on a culture changed but portland well oregon in jeopardy is another ball game from the outset they have a culture with pilotness in driving and i've driven in portland and around those areas and how drivers
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treat one another and bicyclists and pedestrians it's a completely different culture i'm not sure that san francisco, california get there but we should work on that. clearly changing the roads and making improvements, enforcement all of those things are important but ultimately its behavior. i think we have to start working on, of course, enforcement plays a role but there's also something we have to do and it's going to take a lot more effort and work and time to get to that point. i also wanted to mention or supervisor wiener mentioned double parking and the issues around that the worse thing that
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happens someone pulls up in a truck or car and there's plenty of room to pull up and they deliberately don't do that. i know we've had a hearing about double parking we've discuss people that are loading and unloading their children or elderly family members and the challenges in areas were there isn't any parking and also i remember i think k345r7bd ali said they used discretion around ticketing because each case is different. so i definitely think we need to do something b about double parking and be aggressive with tiktd for double parking but be credit rat of the challenges of
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access to people's homes and deliveries and those sorts of things and bring those drivers to the table. i don't know if i'm for recycling trucks if they can't make they're deliveries that could change how much they charge because we make it more difficult to deliver things i want business owners and delivery trucks at the table a really robust discussion how we make those improvements and how we work with people who are going to be most impacted by the changes to not only provide suggestions but also work with them on changing their behavior how they deliver and maneuver around the city and what that all means.
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i want to make sure we take that kind of approach >> thank you supervisor breed. supervisor mar >> i appreciate ms. reynolds the hard work on the projects. i was wondering if the executive director if the transportation authority can work with the mta and other departments to develop the flow charts that might help to understand product delivery >> it that okay ms. chang. >> okay. great. so thank you. again ms. reynolds i want to talk about the double parking issue it is something that sfmta and sf pd can do given the pcos could do
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it's frustrating for cyclists so have trucks and major vehicles blocking the bike lane and parking in that area that's the only place they can park pushing bikers out into the street but important that vehicles can see around the double parking. the project delivery the flow charts will be helpful and the suggestions on how we can improve and what other cities are doing. and also you mentioned the use of consistence it's my understanding that dwp has been able to use consultant to help deliver their projects on time and budget and having that conversation with sfmta is incredibly important especially, if we're able to convince the
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voters to support the go bond and the vehicle license fees and if we push sfmta to deliver quicker is something that wyoming can help us. so at this time i'll open this up for public comment on item 4. if you want to speak step forward and line up on your right-hand side. good afternoon, commissioners i'm with the san francisco bicycle coalition. we're very excited to see the progress made in a short period the tragedy in the richmond district drives us to advocate for more ambition action. we want to commend the mta on their diligent work in
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establishing the accomplice of zero vision this is in a epidemic we're president the hard data this is will be the best way to achieve vision zero and we should prioritize geneva and all corridors that are in dire need of improvements that he want to make sure that the necessary safety improvements and i believe that you as commissioners can help us achieve that. so that we can achieve vision zero on our most dangers street we'll continue to work with the city families to achieve that >> thank you.
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>> good afternoon nicole snider i want to thank the public health department for the data driven solutions we're excited they're going to be implemented by january 2016 and an evaluation exponent to eliminate our high injury corridors. i also you know i think that we're asking a lot of the city that's the basis of vision zero. and i want to highlight of the importance that you all plays in your mta commission and your other hats in terms of leading the charge on policy changes we understand that policies change behaviors and encouraging of
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making policies that discourage bad behavior help to get us to vision zero. how progressive do we want to be with the 24 projects that are 33 projects which is great. how initiative do we want to get how much more do we want to do look at golden gate and do signal timing or lane changes and combine them with data driven engineering solutions so i think those are questions for you to consider and work on changes to sequa in the coming year or two with the planning department and motivating mta and the issues around complete streets and developing complete
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streets to help project coordination >> thank you, ms. snider for your suggestions seeing no more public comment it's closess. this is a list of pilot designs it will be in discussion i certainly appreciated ms. snider's suggestions how far what we push the programs the corridors we've identified are the right ones but can we push the envelope maybe we can have meetings now until june. one the process and the second
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piece is funding and if there's a need for funding we should understand what it costs it will save us money and lives to prevent the accidents we saw today. i know we have another board of supervisors committee meeting that will be starting shortly so i'll save the rest of my questions for another time but again, it's great to have the discussion over the next of you months call item 5 >> item 5 education and public awareness this is an informational item. >> we have john the transportation planner at sfmta to present but before we do that i want to give supervisor yee a chance to make comments.
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>> i'd like to delay my comments and wait for the presentation. >> okay. great. thank you >> good afternoon. i'm john with the municipal transportation agency. and i am let's get the power point up. i'm the lead on the education subcommittee and wanted to quickly with the mind to some of the time speak to the two reducing resolutions recommending e relating to education. our subcommittee has been meeting in the form of the public safety education committee to help to develop a yearlong education safety champion to launch in june it's incorporated everybody you see here as well as advocates and other industries. it also should be the place to
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bring everybody he together for coordination. coordinating our educational efforts is not a place to a veto ideas and tell various departments what to do but growing in the same direction and we have a comprehensive understanding of what efforts are underway and talk about the education and why we're doing that and the common understanding of the education campaigns i have addressed this by the number of activities whether the police department having the district stations that are running campaigns or the relationship too the public health department e.r. the mta advocates or the environment
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departments we're doing a lot of coordination we're running bicycle educations that are not kwrptd between the bicyclists and the mta we've run through any pedestrian safety campaigns if you're running a campaign and it ends and there's a last year gap if we start wanting to get to the culture change that supervisor breed was discussing earlier i think all the best data shows we need a sustained effort to start educating people of what's expected on the street and highlighting the enforcement efforts, etc. and it's a key to the pedestrian safety and encouragement program that's the partnership with the police department it's a partnership with walk san francisco.
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we have the t organization and other staff attending meetings with the program. we actually have funding specifically for enforcement to fund additional police time on the street that ties into the campaign and they'll both reinforce each other. the other educational issue that was in the resolutions was related to large vehicle we've had a working group that has met since the end of january and we have individuals on the mailing list and 40 have been showing up to attend our meetings. that group hopefully, will be making a short and middle recommendation for solution for increasing safety who walk and bike around trucks it's the hope
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by the beginning of may we'll have a documented report to send to our body to start working on. there's a lot of support i think it's important we've not heard any push back more needs to be done. we have fedex and a number of colleagues and city departments or every city department that has large vehicles is a part of the conversation working with the city attorney's office to require training for large vehicle users. there are no as part of the driver training it's not related to driving on urban streets and a lot of support for creating the curriculum the ta will have
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an opportunity for the curriculum it's right now didn't law schools looked like it exists in the country and holy hoping p that will become a model going beyond all the city's and implement it statewide and be an trucks a unique place where a lot of them the safe way drivers will be involved. light to many of the points that were raised earlier today we have the program we're looking to expand beyond the pedestrian safety but to include bicycle safety and driver safety to this is what we're looking at
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hopefully, a partnership of the city family to develop the exceptions and start to explaining how the projects that was mentioned easily their bringing up obey the liveable city we want to live in so in light of the safety to build a better place to live rather than the negative impacts of slowing down traffic. with the eye on time i'll cut myself short. >> thank you, mr. white. i'm real happy when you're talking about the education piece of this we're looking at more holistic comprehensive piece like vision zero as a whole when you take the elements
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to get there working together whether engineering or enforcement or education. and when you take a separate item like education if you were to just take one element of that and just look at pedestrian that's the best way to educate people on this issue then you forget about the other two larger groups go so you're absolutely right if we're going to do education we need to target drivers and bicyclists. so the only comment i have with the diagram with the subcommittee i feel like one group that needs to be highlighted would be the san francisco unified school district. they there's a couple of reasons for