with management, they speak about the housing voucher program. and i work for them and that program is not well, and that's not said wooch. we have a program that is not working properly and mismanaged. if we continue this way, the employees from the public housing to the voucher program is not going to work. because we are not going to have a voucher program. i ask you to have someone with authority to sit at the table with us, that can guarantee our jobs for the city and county. or see that the voucher program is dealt with as the system and being mismanage perianagemisman. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker.

>> my name is teresa lee, i have been an employee for the housing authority for over 20 years. though i stand here united with my union members, i speak to you as a union member but also a member that is a product of public housing. my siblings and i was raised by our parents that were responsible for the first successful public housing rent strikes in san francisco at chinatown housing development, i share this bit of my family history to illustrate my commitment to the residents of public housing. and the concerns i have for the future, should the rad program with its public/private approach not succeed for the residents.

at this point we still know lett letter -- know little about the rad program. and to the employees of the housing authority it's presented as the only way to keep the agency solvent. what is not presented to any of us, is just how all of this will really work. from the beginning the participation in the rad program strategic working groups were not inclusive for the majority of residents and employees. because little information was shared with us from the beginning, this created a general atmosphere of distrust of the residents and employees alike. suffice it to say that we still don't have enough information to rest these concerns. and on our research, it's found little to prove that the rad program is successful in other

cities. and though the rad program is not in all ways and we can use in (inaudible) >> thank you, ma'am. we have to move to the next person. i want to call a couple other cards. espinola jackson. adam noe. grace martinez. latonya -- can't read the last name, yes. will daniels. and catalean (inaudible) yes. thank you. okay. >> good afternoon. members of the supervisors. my name is robert woods. i have been working in the

bayview-hunter's point community since working for the city that coordinated the construction of all units. there is 833 units on the hill. the community built that through the model city's program. my job was to make sure that the community kept those projects rolling and they was constructed. and here we are today, the housing authority and the mayor's office of housing selected eight developers. and not one of them was black. not one of them. and we built that hill up there. and here we are 40 years later, we cannot go up there and get a contract to construct? to build or rehab?

the contract, the rfp was written for the housing directors cronies. they are the true beneficiaries of the contracts. and not only that, when you look at those eight that those chosen. didn't choose not one black contractor we also gave up 1500 acre to one developer, leonard. 1500 acres. you know if i had control of 1500 acres, i would have 15 other developers in this community bringing jobs, bringing money and the city is being -- the city is being (inaudible).

>> thank you. >> (inaudible). >> thank you. dr. jackson. >> yes, dr. jackson here. i have here in 1992, because you are not getting the facts. i am here to give facts. and in 1992, the vice president of the united states came to bayview-hunter's point. his name was dan quayle, and there was a program set up by the tenants called resident management council. some people in the audience were trained to be managers. and the men were trained to be plumbers and electricians, and all areas to take care of the public housing. who was supposed to run the public housing? the tenants. and the city is still receiving those funds. you hear the hope, the hope

started in bayview. that program was to get the men and women off the drugs and put them in training so they would have stable jobs. i have the information here. i gave this information to the housing director. i mean -- no the president -- what are you baby? president of the commission. i had him make copies of it, because i wanted him to know. that so-called rad is an excerpt from what the tenants should be doing. and i asked you at a meeting, asked for an audit of hope, the mayor's of housing, all of those funds are to go to the tenants. and the city is getting those grants that started at

bayview-hunter's point. and the tenants did reconstruction of the buildings themselves. they were trained to do this. they were trained. and 20 people were trained to be managers. and only 12 retired. now (inaudible). >> thank you, mrs. jackson. thank you, thank you, dr. jackson. >> good afternoon, supervisors, i am adam maguire, i am a

maintenance man for the housing authority. i was born and raised holly court and i am a product of the housing authority. 20 years ago when i started my job, i was on the verge of going one way or another. meaning to be a criminal-type gangster person or worker. and when i got the job for the housing authority it took me in the right direction. there are a lot of black, polynesian, asian kids that will not get hired for a good-paying job unless the housing authority. i want you to consider this, when you hand this over for the directors to make a good amount of money and the maintenance workers don't. there will be a problem. my workers and i insulted by mr.

torres that the maintenance will be better, and without the workers i don't see how. >> thank you. >> i am grace martinez, i am an organizer for ace. i organize typically around foreclosure issues. but previous to that i did organized work in public housing for years in the southeast sector. and a member from seiu made a good point, where are the residents in this. do we have poor planning for the residents to way until they start. i am sure that all of these nonprofit developers are great,

i don't know. can we show that they will have a population that is diverse as the current housing. and question of how people will have access to these units. for a major plan like this, and there was a lot of concerns in question that were only provided today for my understanding. for a major impact that will impact 5-6,000 families in san francisco, there is a lot of, i don't know happening. that's unfortunate. and it's amazing that we don't have public housing residents out here. if you were to knock on the door right now, and ask someone if they knew about this project, what would they say? they would probably say, heard on the news, and wonder what questions i need to ask, i think this plan should stop. that there should be more input by the board of supervisors that represent these communities, than rather leaving it in one

place with the mayor's authority of housing, we need it talk about the residents impacted and they need to have a voice in this process. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon. my name is latanya harris, i am standing before you representing employees. and i am also representing residents. because some of them are employees of the housing authority. with this rad program coming onboard, it's going to affect half of our bargaining unit at the housing authority. employees that are residents will be misplaced. and i want to say this is mismanagement. we as a bargaining unit took a

12% cut last june, and told if we do this, all of these variables would fall in place. and eight months later, we are told that didn't work. i believe in the 26 years i have been there, they are washing their hands of the heavy ticket items, public housing. before the asset management development came in play, asset management, which henry alvarez helped to establish with hud, and we were making our repairs. we were not hitting our scores, and when you don't hit your scores, hud doesn't give money. and you have to cut somewhere. all of them know what is going on. they are vague. we have been at the table for months.

yes we have. and it seems like good faith, yes it does. but it's vague. because at the end of all of this in two years, people are going to lose their jobs. and the residents in public housing have become very familiar with employees. and you all know how important that is for people to feel comfortable who is serving them. thank you. have a great afternoon. >> thank you. >> good afternoon, supervisors, i name is will daniels. i am an employee for the san francisco housing authority. i will start by saying there was a statement made that this will allow better building and property management at the sites of public housing. in my time at the agency, i worked in section 8, i managed my case load and handled another case load and managed workers

that are still there as a housing authority. i am a property manager now at robert development, and i worked at potrero hill and sunnyvale. that means i have been involved with the thousands of families in san francisco. in my time here there is shooting and robberies and domestic violence. i had an incident where an employee was attacked by a resident. all things that you won't hear, because there are people that work for the agency that care about the employees and residents that are out there every day doingor :-- doing our jobs to the best of our ability with limited resources. and that statement is a slap in the face to those of us that

worked to provide physical assistance. and psychological needs, all things that we have to implement to provide services. those are things that i do day to day on the front line. and how much money i don't get from management, i still do a good job. i don't care what nonprofit comes in, you would be hard pressed to find somebody that can do it better than we do. thank you. >> i will call a few cards. i think this is anita. and last -- i can't read this. david cannon. james doxy. joyce armstrong. candy small bowood.

ed donaldson. >> hi, i am caleb (inaudible), thank you for calling this hearing, while there is no question that the housing authority is in a crisis, entangling bank on debt and the stock is not the solution. we have a question about the loss of jobs and the potential displacement of african-american families that are most likely impacted by the implementation of rad. the information from the mayor's housing authority is unclear. and we don't have a complete understanding of the long-term financial situation of the program, and whether demographics won't shift an others take control.

the board is responsible for all parties impacted by rad, and request power authority for more services, and you can produce a study conducted by rhoades, and ensure this to stay within the city and county of san francisco. >> thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners. joyce armstrong, president of the public housing association, phta, not pta, that shows how little he works with us. i am joined by the president of ccde, that is the council of

disabled, and she wants you know that she supports the rad program. as far as we know it's the only program that can help the public housing in dire need of help. and she wanted me to tell you that the elevator problem, and they are blessed that something bad hasn't happened in the senior disabled buildings. she's hopeful they have service providers. right now we don't have social worker in the building, except maybe four. that's a service that is needed in the senior disabled buildings as well as the family developments. yes, as president of the phta, i support the concept of rad. we are still contacted and we requested training so we can

understand and articulate what is going do happen to residents in the proper way. residents have to get up off of their behinds and become active. we send out information and beg them to come to meetings. and we don't have a grassroots following, people are comfortable, and when they are victims they want to call, we want endoctrinate them now. please get back with us soon, we will like to meet with you if you need us to. >> thank you, next speaker. >> david cannon will not be speaking. i am iona (inaudible). >> this is your writing. >> it's not mine but it's me. thank you for being here, kind

of hard to cover anything more. my workers did a good job and a lot of people voiced their concerns. i wanted to remind folks, i don't want any future generation to sit at any classroom at any university and say what urban renewal taught me as a cal student. that we displaced and did a project that doesn't serve the community and residents. and we have questions about lenders and vendors and who is going to manage. and hud is going on provide a waiver for those folks that are going to be fixed or better. i want us to be mindful that an agreement would serve us that we have well-paying jobs with the living wage. and we have tenant right

protections. and it serves the board in its best interest to do that. so we can work together, not just the housing authority or the mayor's office but a larger group. i am concerned on a 18-month path and we still don't have all of these questions. to rely on who is going to give the loan to which group. that's our residents, that's our community. we want a better san francisco. and i am not sure i am hearing that today. i think we need a better dialogue and transferred to joints power agreement to protect all communities of color. thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> good afternoon, supervisors, i am the rad outreach specialist at san francisco, and i am former resident of alice griffin. i understand the need for rad,

and i understand two important things. tenant education and input and tenant protections. it's very important that there are people in these properties educating and empowering and listening to the tenants. many tenants have discussed that this development is chosen and now with the properties they didn't have a say. the tenants want to be involved in these processes, and now that there is time for door-knocking opportunities and the beneficiaries of rad, are not left in the dark. and for the tenants to understand the protections in rad. there needs to be education to ease the fears. it's important to get out-reach teams out there to teach others and to get more leaders on the

ground. so that the residents know their protections and can get their concerns heard. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon, supervisors. i want to say thank you for the opportunity to speak at this hearing, and actually for you guys to have the courage to call this hearing. to flush out some concerns and issues that people have around the rad program. you know it isn't an option to do nothing. i agree wholeheartedly with the city on that point. when you think of the decrepit housing conditions that people are forced to live under. though i have concerns about the whole process is played out. and in particular in the afri n african-americans of san francisco. a collaborative report from

2011, that 45% evictions are african-americans, and 29% in the city of san francisco were african-americ african-americans, but only represent 4-6% of the population. there are other people on the wait list, and whether those on the wait list and getting into public housing and if they merit one another. and with evictions we believe there is serious housing right concerns that lie there that may be a basis for a lawsuit. and resources like they did for district 9, that folks get resources for tenant organizing. and we believe that the workers should allow to become civil worker employees. and we believe to ensure that there is adequate participation

and equity in the process, that african-americans are at the table, so that some of those folks are hired for these positions. and the financial feasibility all of that is in question -- [mic turned off] >> thank you, next speaker, please. >> good evening, supervisors, i have notes that i want to address. but after listening to the presentation over two hours, it's frustrating to go over these. i work with a lot of clients who live in public housing. my background is real estate finance, and have worked in the city for 10 years, and do large-scale projects outside of

the country. and listening to the dog and pony show, with all due respect to the leaders that spoke up. a lot of vague responses. if i went to my clients and gave vague answers, they wouldn't listen to my proposals. and the only way to get san francisco to address changes in the community on how you treat blac blacks. that you start working with local film producers in the community, trust them to come in. videotape, show that you look as if you live in a third-world country. i have seen some pictures that my clients have brought to my office to get me to help with the housing authority. and how as a professional in the industry how the department heads talk to me, even when i give them the law.

the only way to get san francisco to change, do video and make it viral and put it the on the youtube, and you will something besides this dog and pony show and vague answers. >> thank you, virinna. >> good afternoon, i am a housing authority with the bay area legal aid. we provide free legal services to low-income tenants. and having worked with public housing tenants, and that's a different experience and property managed by property authorities. and it's not a good difference. while the rights of the tenants in either of those properties should be the same. in reality they play out

differently in real life. one of the examples i want to bring to you, the issues we have had with transferring tenants between buildings. and this is a concern in an emergency transfer when domestic crimes are involved. and the problem we have, the privately managed properties have their own screening criteria on top of those that public housing should have. and that is a barrier for a domestic violence survivor to transfer securely and to a safer place. and because of the developers involved, those problems will magnify and prevent more people from transferring into safe environments. and transfer policies that take into account emergency situations such as domestic

violence and other violent crimes. and i want to mention that public housing tenants are entitled to procedures before the case proceeds to eviction. with private developers we are having trouble getting those procedures followed. and to be followed through due diligence, and for most developers eviction is the first step. thank you. >> i am nancy cross, and i am here to bring to your attention danger of having what sounds like a very good partnership between the city administration and the developers. in relation to a project that is