percent a year and the mandatory health care the impacts to have the courage to try to get a store open her in san francisco is enormous. i feel like it commission we've got so many rules on the books a discretionary review can stop many opportunities and the weighing in on the use i feel this is an administrative active overkill to continue this and i really two last points last year 75 percent of the retail was filtered and the other faster growing is medical you have to take care of the baby durmdz so in a couple of years we're going

to be looking at how to reduce the use of restricting food >> thank you is there any additional public comment. >> i support the other gentleman's opinion i like is it not overly restricted i experienced a company that's a network marketing and not network but then because they have one neighborhood then with the 7 miles we can't have another one we never went there

andful never have been there all the mountains it's impossible to drive but we can't have another one because of the rules we want another larger retail business your community needs it let our community people decide what they want not the people here to decide thank you very much. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> if i can remind the people of the public to silence our mobile days. good afternoon >> judy with the coalition neighborhood. i'm on the focus group for the formula retail as well as other speakers here tonight. a couple of things the history

of trying to limit formula retail gos goes back over 75 years i believe with a and p the pacific retailers they've disappeared on their own. just an observation. sometimes, it happens that a - a business that passes the 11 location mark such as books ink on its own reduced its number of locates they're down to two locations now. we met the know if group met on march 24 it was a very, very productive meeting. a couple of the things we looked at one was the night in some areas for an anchor store it's

an anchor store being a large formula retail or chain store. another thing the study brought into focus under employment was there are better and more employment opportunity at formula retail stores than the small businesses. this is something that was very much brought home today by several the speakers i preservative that thank you very much. thank you for your time and looking at the issue and hope to be here on the 22nd and of may and june 5th to say what's going on in its advancement >> general public comment

seeing none, general comment is closed. >> thank you for the presentation i notice from the staff we're not hearing the presentation from ted about the economic impacts until the 15th of may the same time we're going to hear the presentation from any supervisor mar. are you going to get in information ahead of time if you don't have the information we can't make the decision >> our planning staff has read the report and it's available on the website so it's something we take into account when we make the policy recommendation but because the doctor focuses on the supervisor mar not the focus of this study the supervisor want to bring up his proposal at

the same time so we're waiting until june 5th for that combination. >> it might be a decision day for us? >> supervisor mar has a revised version of his so we're trying to cooperate with him so once it's introduced you could act an may fifth. we're trying to bring the policy recommendations to you on i believe on may 22nd that's the thursday your last hearing in may you won't have another hearing between then but you'll be able to see the recommendations and respond to public input and come up with your own policy recommendation.

if we're able to coordinate everything we'll maybe get to forwarded on june 5th >> it's clear we're not making a decision on the 15 of may. >> the doctor report has been moved. >> their got it moved later but both on june 5th it's the same problem exists we're expected to make a decision on something we're seeing the same day. >> we can make sure that the commission has access and we'll post it open the website for the public so there will be two weeks previous we'll be talking about the policy prelims for the formula retail so you'll have

plenty of time. >> commissioner if i may the vesting on the report is only on supervisor mar's proposal not covering the full gambit that's why we're combining those. >> the question was it was go on going to be on the 15th so you'll have time to mull over those before we make our final action but it sounds like this is going to happen on the 5th of june all 3 items. >> the commission is if it's available and ready we'll ask you try to consider it on may 28th we can continue it. okay. thank you. i'm starting to figure out the time table >> sorry. >> i heard a lot of things i have some general feelings based

on what i heard a lot of concerns about vacancies it's important. because big spaces are hard to fill and hard for small businesses to fill there's the talk about dividing them into smaller parcels it makes sense we might have a different bar for over 10 thousand square feet maybe a dr rather a cu but giving someone the chance to fill those we should help them so this is a higher bar. i don't think it's wise to expand into additional categories making formulate retail including a lot of things that are not considered formula

retail as with banks they're all formula retail so to make them go through hoops there's not a competitor here. it's disserves those places where there's no final constitution you walk along mission street or ocean or geneva there's very few banks or inspections in those areas we want to encourage them so to make them it does a disservice by making it harder for financial institutions to go in there. the level i think in your report you said that only 9 percent of formula retail were by category i guess under 50 stores and then 75 percent had of the formula

retail over 50. then there's i guess there was a separate category for franchises i'm not sure how that read it sound like a dividing line 11 or 12 for our locally growing first name is if their successful at all at the rapidly surpass that so the bar a has to be higher but it makes senses. and then i'm hearing that you know the consideration of companies that might be international and not in the united states are not having over 12 in the united states but the point was well-made we want those to come to san francisco

first, because it will draw people from outside of san francisco to go to the stores because we have a large international population in the bay area so if they hear about one on fillmore or downtown they'll go where ever we can the product is we shouldn't restrict those to have them in the educate they have to have enough stores in the united states because presumably they'll have quite a few other places if they're a large company. the other thing that is important that seems to be a formula towards formula retail to do more job training and perhaps hire a higher level of

the minority they have the deeper pocket but it's a good service if at the do those things. points about sense e citizens and the need they need in their own neighborhoods not having to get out of cars and banks are another good example because a lot of people who are citizens i'm one of them i want to go to a person to talk to. so and feinstein a good point was made by one of the speakers is the real enemy is on line as far as our brick and mortar services we're neighborhood originated we might withstand it

f this but make it possible for our brick and mortar to be able to science with the competition from the online products. those are my views >> commissioner borden. >> thank you for the report and the work we found out what we pretty much know every neighborhood and situation is different and formula retail is slightly different. i know we were hoping for a more robust answer perhaps but you can't get into that without deep economic data analysis. i think that obviously when you're a retailer whether a smaller or large retailer you go where the demographics is and in neighborhoods that are more

possible you have more retailers moving to the neighborhood vs. where the neighborhood that are more affordable not see that harassing as much so the retail that those neighborhoods attract but in turn of local stores you'll attract as well more upscale technologies that have higher levels of income. i think what is interesting and the report starred to talk about this there's a trend we hear a lot from the small business community the online issue is a large issue about the loss of shoe repair and other stores because the change in the nature of the retail. it's true you see the amazon fresh trucks and you can get whatever you wanted we hear it

over and over about minimum wage and other things one of the changes that the small businesses are having is competing the low margins competing against online retailers to provided i provide the necessities so that's something we'll have to look at. the future of rail is more complex. i remember that there's an organization called street sense based out of washington, d.c. for local people to gal in his how to repair their cooperated they a tool kit but they did a lot of research to look at what people want they want experience they're no longer brand loyal and so it's not a chain or otherwise their local to experience so a retail that

whether or not you can play with the items there or sit on the furniture they're doing what is in demandot the things like computers they're not that expensive so being seen there but the other thing that is in their research when they looked around the world they had about 65 percent food and bachelor that's the trend they find that 85 percent of americans figured out what they're going to eat after 8:00 p.m. when they pick up something from the grocery stores or actually go out to eat that's the changing dynamics. ss made their bith area of local

merchandising would be food based businesses so the trend is toward food and beverage maybe in a restaurant environment but a multiply lard environmentalist we're ponding this because at the end of the day we might be looking to solve a problem that doesn't apply to the future. in terms of going back to the approach when i talk about international folks whether it's a chain popper in europe we don't have here that's why they're attracted to come to san francisco or various environments. there's a multiple lard amount of information looking at the national trend in retail is important it didn't meaning maple with we have to do

anything in particular but there are new problems not anticipated >> very well pit commissioner borden and coming from someone from the restaurant industry. my comments are retailers ras as this city gets bigger and living in micro units like tokyo people treason outside of their homes like in small businesses we enjoy the combination of going some nights to different places. i was happy to be part of the group that called for the information gathering but it is pointing out what beak to balis

balance. we need a little bit of both in the city. there are southern groups that have a need for small stores because the health care person provided it's a convenience to walk to get their needs. so, yeah i'm looking forward to the rest of this multiple series report and hearing from dr. eden as well it's coming down to not one blanket policy or one-size-fits-all for the city but this commission is thus far in my 3 and a half years we've made people happen and some happen and some not happen >> commissioner moore. >> great comments i've been

part of the focus group and for the public this is not a study that's been cooked in the backroom the commissioners have actively participated to create a discussion around formula retail not for the purpose of offering flowing existing rules but creating a process that indeed is responsive to the public's concerns as well as our own. the one thing we're mostly concerned about is the sameness experience which sometimes an over bans of retail shows in other cities that's at the core of how much formula retail is defined it's not just formula retail their smaller entities to the ones that are large and dominant and present. this is a work in progress only

an update not policies that are discussed or formulated we're all here listening and observing and what i can say from my prospective summarized by the lady with the chamber of commerce is that that's about balance and flexibility. she's participated in this focus group for the same number of months as the three of us. it's a work in process it was a great presentation the work is not done. we're here updating you and standing by to really take it now into the realm of policy frmgs which is a major step nothing has been said or written down we are trying to absorb as much of your concerns as we are

finding a common base this is active participation we'll define it unnecessary of us knows where retail is going. some of us are concerned about the sucking out of life in the retail experience in the neighborhood corridors by just being on line that's a death of some industry and we're trying to find balance and thank you for formulating that. >> thank you. commissioner hillis. >> i just wanted to add that i think even people who want to loosen the restrictions see that generally, the process it is working like the starbuck's or

express battle it's doing what it's supposed to do. and we're approving a lot of obviously new formula retail shown by the chart but giving neighborhoods a voice. so i think it's good we're doing this. i'd be supportive of this tweak in the process not necessarily an overhaul >> thank you let me add a couple of thoughts. we heard concerns about culture preservation and the hire of the diverse workforce they're interested in how formula retail can hurt or help those goals it's not a one fits all solution especially with the name to commercial districts. i like the introduction of this

daily needs serving business this helps us think about services. with regard to think about international or not i think there's needs to be a balance if we include the international balance we should be thinking about upping the number of formula retail stores. the international stores what provide a sense of preservation like stores from asia. i wanted to ask staff if they can give us guidance on vacancies if there's a percentage at which it's a red flag it will help us in our deliberations and lastly i want to ask commissioner antonini's concerns to the egan study maybe

it will help address some of the issues >> just to answer our question about vacancies we explore the 10 percent of the district and when we looked at the issue about real estate there are is notice information in the section of the commercial districts. >> okay. thank you. so with that, i think the commission will take a 20 minute break. >> on item 14 for the next case. at 21 market street conditional use authorization >> good afternoon michael smith planning department staff you

have before you a request for conditional use authorization to amend an motion at the ground floor retail spaces of a mixed use building for this address on 2175 market street to created east create a ground floor market spaces into a single-space and adding additional restaurant spaces the restaurant use that was applied will not change in the upper market street in the commercial transit strict and in the octavia plan area it requires the conditional use authorization planning sections for an individual ground floor retail number one residential space h that covers 75 linear

photo and the use feet for 2 hundred and 49 gross square feet. it requires additional use for a bar and restaurant use. as stated earlier this is for a market rail expect that will create a one-stop marketplace featuring local business in a shared space to a similar to the ervin space it will feature local businesses that employment each other. no one of the vendor have been which you will to you'll be approving a concept. the department is okay with approving this and it is

eloquently to allow the owner to look at those spaces to number one retailed firmly business owners. additionally, any tenant needs to come back to the commission for the conditional use authorization approval. it includes a plan b neighbors expressed concerns regarding this plan b concept that permitted a bar use restaurant the use to address those concerns the project sponsor has agreed to eliminate plan b so i've had the secretary deliver to you pass out to you a revised motion on a sheet where things

were taken out of the motion before you. we can discuss those really briefly. so the first paragraph on page one we removed the respect of the secret and on page one in the preamble deleted alternative or restaurant after the 2 hundred and 99 square feet and on the peculiar page the reference to the restaurant at the 2 thousand 49 square feet and on page 4 finding number 5 once again another reference there and on page 5 finding number 6 c once again another