we would like to say to the neighbors to the north we would like to acknowledge the persistence they sat when conducting their own remodel they were careful to preserve the light and space to our property their neighbors directly to the north and appreciative. they now stand to lose the benefits it's unfair. we recognize the need for those folks to renovate their home how much space is needed. there's a potential for this remodel to add the value to their homelands without diminishing ours. we respectfully ask you to create a compromise so all the

neighbors can preserve their quality of life and value of their homes. thank you >> thank you. >> good afternoon. i'm regina carson i'm a long time friend and close to the miller mckenzie family they've indicated they've remodeled their home to bring a sense of their raked garden expands into their home with minimal expensive to their neighborhoods. on a personal note julie mckenzie suffers if a disease and their son is home from a furious of treatment. the proposed project will have a significance impact of overshadowing light in the home and basically have a very, very

comba bad impact to the family of life for this family as well as the neighborhoods as has been indicated. so i believe the request here is to ask the commission to please enter seed and get compromise going it didn't seem to be the within the scope of the current project so we really appreciate your consideration in this manner >> further speakers in support of the dr. >> good afternoon commission i'm dillon i'm a constituting student with ken miller taking lessons below the deck that is used for private instruction. i've spent my life there.

i'll speak and the rest of the students we're benefited there's natural light and using a large instrument you can get into the basement so i worry about this project will compromise that light and make the use of the space the structural space negative. and see for that reason i want to support of the discretionary review. thank you >> further speakers? commissioners thank you for the opportunity to speaker in support of the dr. i'm brendon this is my wife patty we live on hugo street our

property abuts the property that's been discussed here. we share that mini garden space we're concerned with the restriction of light from this particular projects and projects that might be encouraged will change the nature the neighborhood. we encourage a creative compromise >> i'm brendons wife i work at st. marys hall an expert for the sales tax. my mother owns the property on hugo street we've been living

there over 11 years our backyards abut their property and we're concerned about the amount of natural light that will be effected by the building and construction as it is now. we also i also want to say that we support a compromise for both parties and also we're concerned about the as it stands now the amount of construction work that would be down and the noise that will effect the neighborhood and the time of the construction. as we tend to work late and we get up early and we're concerned about the amount of noise that would effective the neighborhood

but mostly the national light that effects kens house when looking at the aerial i couldn't have it looks like the light would be effected in many different areas so we do support a compromise. thank you >> thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, commissioners. my name is randall i'm a native san franciscan. i've lived in the inner sunset over 40 years i've been a close friend of kidnapping this is a smith and met ken and others through the community events. i've been active in the inner sunset as a member of the inner sunset and merchants association. i was acquainted with ken miller

who worked on the tree project in the neighborhood. we all appreciate ken's festers. i'd like to point out the number of people who can come to this hearing for the support it would be detrimental to the spirit of our neighborhood. as a long-term fifth avenue resident i'm concerned about the encroachment of the structure into the park like space that sets a dangerous precedent. i ask you not approve this in its current form it's out of scale and would detrimentally effect the two adjacent homes

>> thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon. i'm marilyn coin i've lived in the hugging do street area for 43 years i'm a native san franciscan and i'm upset about the sprays. every neighborhood has the same integrity with interior gardens noah valley and richmond if we start to move back where people can bump back properties we'll lose the integrity of san francisco. we have golden gate park but you can't look out at that from our backdoor.

please consider the proposal to bump back the proposal and come to a compromise there's so much support for the millers and cynthia please consider it. thank you >> thank you is there any additional public comment. >> i want to make a point of clarification and ms. empathic i'm looking the discretionary review it only lists ken and mckenzie and only lists one address that's why upper not notified. >> mr. mckenzie if you would -

>> is the microphone on. >> she's not on the title page i think on page one of the actual told them in the dr request it states that ms. cynthia smith also johns joins in the request for discretionary review it's adjacent to the property on the south side. >> she's been considered to be part of the dr staff. >> so there's an opportunity for a response and rebuttal if you so diver the two of you could share that time. okay now project sponsor your team has 5 minutes >> good afternoon commissioner president wu and commissioners

i'm david silverman i'm working with the family that has lived on the property for over 28 years. i'm not sure what the speakers were talking about. mr. lindsey stated in his opening comments that the properties are awe aligned with the two adjacent properties in the rear so the bump out that's going to ruin the open spaces is a fancy. the purpose of the project is to add approximately one hundred and 10 square feet at the level and one hundred and 16 square feet at the third level for a grand total of 2 hundred and 26 square feet with a change in the

roofline to make the change more usable. the garage is behind is wasted space that will be enclosed that's going to improve the homes functionality and structure stability and energy efficiency. no changes to the house. the 2 hundred and 26 square feet will have minimal effects. the address was specifically designed as a good neighbor design. this hearing is characterized by the staff as a dr receive and the dr requester has not met their burden of incorporating generous set back from the

shared property line as good neighbor gestures is torrid or justifies any structural change >> good afternoon. commissioner president wu and commissioners. i'm leslie. >> it's sfgovtv. >> this photo shows the existing part of the back of the house this has been added it will add only 2 feet to the footprint of the dr requesters property line. this photo shows the large void at the first level we're at the 4 hundred and 46 square feet

that will be added. the plan adds one hundred and 10 square feet at the second level. the total of the addition is 2 hundred and 26 square feet. that's it down there the pop up. this photo shows the subject property within the consent of the block it, it's single-family units and multiple units 60 percent are homes and typically are 4 stories. as you can see the mid block open space is regular and it protrudes into the center of the

block that are visible from my clients home. fundamentally the orientation is east, west so the back of the homelands on significant avenue we see full sun in the morning and by the early afternoon that's shaded. i don't know what this photo was taken but the impact the shod is minimal for all the buildings on the west side of the block. this will be foster out than the proposed project. as mentioned we are only adding two feet horizontally and still provides 8 photo more than the rear yard open space. >> sorry ma'am, your time is up.

>> okay. are there members of the public that are in support of the project? >> good afternoon. madam president and members of the planning commission i'm joy i'm speaking on behalf of the owner on sixth avenue. i want to reiterate >> i'm sorry ma'am, if you're speaking n in support of the iernz i'm speaking in support of the project. i've known them for 26 years. they've helped with the medical center and as a physician that has helped with the medical education and plays has been a

soccer coach and president of the san francisco vikings and he's been a coach over 17 years. they've afforded an enormous amount of time and energy there's the recognition of the need to encourage families to stay in the city. this house is at least one hundred-year-old and noted to be brought up to code for this family and the neighbors. there's been serious fires in the city and it impacts neighbors as well as the inhablt. in addition, this will recognize as the family grows up they need more space the rent are high here.

they're ready to do the work and make changes in the property it will help the value of the houses in the neighborhood. it benefits the neighbors and the parking is extremely tight in the inner sunset before it changes to the north line. in conclusion you've followed the process and the folks have been accommodating but it seems like every time they make concessions the rules changed. it's code compliant and will benefit the family and the neighboring properties but improves the basic housing stock in the city. i urge to you approve this

>> thank you is there any additional public comment in port of the project. >> i'm slel will i. clay and andrea are good citizens wanting to make improvements in the home they've lived in for 26 years they've raised their daughters and look forward to the mind in the future when in-laws and grandchildren that part of their world. andrea and her husband are going to stay in the home and the probability need of some aspect of multiple generational care in the homes. parents need to care for parent and kids need to care for the generations. this home upgrade is part of putting things in place for the

future. clay and andrea are part of the future community. andrea has been with usf medical center for years she's teaches and clay is a volunteer with the vikings soccer lead that partners with the rec and park department. these are good reasonable people. their home needs upgrades and need to be brought up to code it needs seismic and structural and cosmetic changes. they live in a modest home and they're making changes that are absolutely necessary. please consider this proposal. thank you very much. thank you >> additional members of the

public that wish to speak in support of the project? >> thank you for your attention i'm katherine i've lived in the house in the neighborhood over 33 years. i have been friend with the folks for most of the time. i'd like to support the project and ask you dismiss the discretionary review application. we actually worked on a project with the our architect leslie in our neighborhood. i find here very consider at person to respond to the neighbors they've made a number of changes of concerns to the neighborhoods and they've been reprehensive to the project responses. they're adding value to the neighborhood and to the

community and adding parking spaces and making it more incur efficient and seismicly appropriate. i'm to request our support for the application as it stands for the project. thank you very much >> additional speakers? okay. seeing none dr requester you have a 2 minute rebuttal. >> good afternoon. i'm julie living on 6th avenue. i want to point out i'm a professional musician have worked with the san francisco opera and ballet since 1987 i work in the dark for many hours it's crucial for me to have light when i come home we've preserved the light in our home

with the remodel we're only asking the consideration of the our neighbors to help with that. as far as our efforts to negotiate we've hired on architect that's brought proposals that have basically been go forward. i have a couple of drawings. an example of the slopped revolver that will preferential light >> ma'am, if you want to leave time for your co- dr requester she'll only have a few minutes. >> you can see it out buildings are not visible from the living

level. thank you >> we'll have abbreviate this. i lived in my home since i was born. i've watched the neighborhood there are 7 remodels mine included in our bloke and of the 7 not one has gone more than one to the past the orange structure at the time of the remodel. we've enclosed the bottoms some people added a new deck but it's preserved the openness in our block. as far as as everybody trying to accommodate everybody i've been sporadic excluded and i was not

to be included so my desires have not been made known at all or considered >> i'm sorry ma'am, your time is up. >> project sponsor you have a 2 minute rebuttal. >> i would also like to clarify that andrea and clay have tried to contact and give their input. >> what did he say? okay >> please don't interrupt ma'am, speak into the microphone. >> this is the site plan i want to emphasize it is the existing and property so this area is the only space we're adding onto the back of the house.

along the direct requesters property we've extend it two photo and the bay window is set back from the property line 3 photo. at the third level we've set back the master by the time 9 feet from the requesters property to give them a view and we've set back for more light on both sides of the property. i think you can see it a little bit better this is where we're stepped back 9 feet and after the preapplication community meeting we listened to the neighbors concerned and pulled that back four and a half feet and moved the bay in the back.

and this is the 311 notice for the project. i just put it her to emphasize not commissioners under the proposed it says 2 feet >> i'm sorry your 7, 8, 9 is up. that's the close of the public hearing. commissioner moore >> while i think the concerns about light and air with issues we talk about almost every week within itself not the criteria for approving or disapproving the dr. while we are sensitive to be sensitivity have those revolted this this case the addition is

so minor that i did not building that any of the considerations to consider this roement do apply. the allegations are sensitive just as the architect described are showing the red lined areas of the conflict as they've been resolved with working with the neighborhoods and departments this is a sensitive edition i don't feel requires dr but way within the modest editions in san francisco that's not only this building what's troubling with your issues with the remaining 6 hundred and 50 thousand people that live in the city we hear the same story every week, we looked at this with a skilled eye but take them

to a general willed area. this edition is modest and way within the conditions of approval i move to approve the project without taking discretionary review >> second. >> commissioner antonini. >> yeah. a few of the paralyzes i found in staff please correct me if i am wrong but looking at the plans on a 5. you can clearly see that that 9 foot set back exists for the master bedroom on the third floor where respect to the neighborhood to the north which is where the dr has been filed and most of the concerns about light and air are coming. also a setback of the master

bedroom they've mentioned and 4 feet from the rear there recent - is a setback. the measurement of the before and after situations it's not 49 inches it's a two foot edition. much of what was there was in the 70s. admittedly those pop outs were not uniform and the project sponsors have filled those in they have no effective because the fill ins are in between the pop outs they're trying to put in a solid foundation and make the house sturdy so it seems like in the issue of rear yard. according to