feet from the rear there recent - is a setback. the measurement of the before and after situations it's not 49 inches it's a two foot edition. much of what was there was in the 70s. admittedly those pop outs were not uniform and the project sponsors have filled those in they have no effective because the fill ins are in between the pop outs they're trying to put in a solid foundation and make the house sturdy so it seems like in the issue of rear yard. according to staff report

they're to have a 25 percent and the rear yard was 34 percent that's well within allowed and looking at the overhead views there's significant space even after the edition i don't see anything extraordinary with this case. i agree with the commissioners then to test of the analysis of the design team and the guidance >> commissioners there a motion and second on the floor to not take dr. commissioner antonini. commissioner moore. commissioner fong. commissioner president wu >> so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 4 to zero and places you on item 17 for the next case. at the 12457 request for discretionary review.

>> good afternoon tucht and commissioners doug with the staff you have a request for a discretionary review the application to construct a new small space on the first story and a 50 feet third floor to the dwelling it will have a walk-in closet and others amenities it's within the west invades but a distance between a neighborhood district and the west portal district. the subject block includes 8

properties between 14 and forest avenues and the subject property is within a group of buildings that have similar north side of particularly at the street level and it is an edition this is a set back accident feet and it is proposed that this will not make it subordinate to the remain guidelines for the department recommends a setback that will minute miss it visibility and maintain the wall open this block. the existing roof will conceal the roof and therefore will not stand out. the sponsor has said this is

unreasonable because it will increase the construction cost and reduce the value of all neighborhoods that point similar editions. the department buildings that more the edition will be visible from the sidewalk across the street from which it the measured and evaluated. at this distance it will not be subordinate and in this third floor edition will include a full bath and office and walk-in closet and a second family room. the recommendation to this will reduce the floor area by one hundred pea 50 square feet and will still provide to square feet to the building which is an increase of '85 percent.

the department has received one letter of opposition stating the height open space and impact his properties afternoon light. the staff has met with the adjacent owners which the property is to the west and they express the concern the vertical and horizontal edition of the afternoon light. the commission take the discretionary review and approve the edition so it is set back from the wall 15 feet that concludes my presentation >> we take public comment no support of the dr. >> who's the project sponsor. >> hi good afternoon,

commissioners i'm james i live next to the project. i'm here to support of the discretionary refugee building that the house frontage in this neighborhood really changes the look and feel of the two-story houses. i support the planning proposal for the set back to 15 feet to the zero lot lion sorry houses. when a house in the middle of the block sticks up i know it's, it's very visible and having a 15 foot set back relieves the disparity. furthermore we have the project has plans to expand the ground floor in the book 7 feet and add

another basement level 3 photo. because we're at the corner there are a lot of 3 story buildings directly west of us. it lines up with the project that opens us to the east and allows the sun. we feel this didn't combofrp but they're adding 10 and a half feet. so this is a view from the basic from our back. and so say you, see this is looking east and this is the morning sun coming in the shed that sticks out 10 foot or so and they're proposing adding in the back this shed we have this whole wall with the proposal.

and this would really box us in since we're at the corner as shown in the aerial view. this is property of them and this walls us in we're in a box. we're not here to regret the project but asking for conditions. we want the overall of the blocks we want to be considered. this is not effecting the project in a measurable degree but helps the neighbors >> is there any additional public comment seeing none, project team our team has 5 minutes. >> good afternoon. i'm allen

the architect for the project at the 1257 willow street we've been trying to work with the planning department for the last 2 years from the beginning we felt our edition which thirds are hidden behind the roof would not present itself as an overbearing or out of place type of edition for a third story. i've done renderings the edition the existing roof here >> can you speak into the microphone. >> beg your pardon. >> speak into the microphone. >> the edition sits 3 feet above the existing revolver

line. at the corner of our block sits a 3 story house which is at the front and back of all the homes and it's 3 stories at all. this was done back in the 70s. and both of those houses are single-family homes and we're not at the height of the three-story structure. cross the street from the 12 (inaudible). are 3 story homes. which were banishment acquit a while ago. the homes across the street from the corner of forest side were built in very much long ago their 3 stories and their front sets back and they go up 3

stories. to the west this home here - this home was built probably, maybe 20 or thirty years ago edition to the third story that doesn't have a setback and it's 43 at the front of the set back line that's typical for a lot of the homes in the west portal district. this is a picture of the two retains on the corner of 14th and the other street. my clients house is the fourth house. and this is the third house that the previous owner was speaking

about. those are two roipdz that were built by the same owner of the properties and their 3 stories at all. we're only barely halfway to the story of either of those residence. i really building this is not impact the scale of the neighborhood. pretty much the west portal district has a mix terror of one and two story homes but most of the older 3 story homes are not set back and have a lot of detail to make them look interesting or the partial setbacks but the west portal mass has a mixture. so with our proposed edition of

the third story can sit back 9 photo we felt we shouldn't have to lose one hundred and 50 feet to our third story edition that's our family room. as far as the ground floor edition at the rear it's at the basement level. the picture that the neighbor was showing is at the second floor level our basement level edition is above that they'll never see the edition. the only protrudetion is the deck open the roof of the lower level based on the edition. where the edition at the rear is being built >> thank you other members in

support of the project sponsor? okay. seeing none i believe that's the end of the public hearing. >> i'm sorry they should be afforded the two minute rebuttal. so staff you have a two minute rebuttal >> staff wasn't sure we'll be provided the rebuttal but in response to those a minimum of the building will be visible. that provision was made on the very last page of your packet. at the sidewalk adjacent to the street and obviously at that angle and advantage point when the residential team looked at

the visibility we take a look at it from across the street and poub the street and given that standard have an tangible point. this was an issue the department tried to talk about early on. this has been before and after between the project sponsor and the department and initially the department had concerns that the rear edition was going to have a significant impact on light and privacy but after a bunch of reviews by the residential design team the department determined the impact was not substantial that he noticed there are some amount of

reduction in the privacy but the department doesn't feel it's significant >> project sponsor you have a 2 minute rebuttal. >> this is a view from across the street are i think our edition even though it's a third story edition we tried to remove the structure back to 9 feet whether we set it back another 6 feet will impact the visibility of the edition by, you know, maybe a foot or more but we're definitely not creating an overbearing type of structure that's a full story above all the other homelands and with the roof structure that's above that

we're trying to minimize that to add to the structure and hopefully, you know, you'll see that we are trying to work within the residential design guidelines. >> okay. thank you. with that, the public hearing is closed >> commissioner moore. >> i appreciate that that but i fully agree this is a dr worthy project because it really does not meet the standards for which we not that i recall do 30th not take dr. it starts with the departments analysis of the lack of front set back from 9 to 15 feet and 15 photo is standard particular in this type of situation. i regret is indeed the fact that

the applicant does not realize down the block there are other at all building and they're not able to recognize the context and the context is really the grouping of similar buildings on this particular portion of the street. so i building that as to the question of notification as the availability of money there are impacts on other buildings that might have filed a dr if they understand the impacts. i want to first suggest we look at the departments recommendation of moving the building 15 feet back i want to suggest there's no deck facing the street that's a highly

unusual circumstances the raked in addition to the third floor not being visible the deck encroachs. and to the rear my concerns have to do with visible encroachments to all neighbors to the 14th street building which is the lots 28 i'm not sure of the house number of the lot that's a substandard lot with a small building sitting in the square the extension is proposed to the rear actually looks back into the bedrooms of the joining

building and pulling it back by 6 feet as well as eliminating the deck on the third floor is kind of like still leaving a very substantial condition to the house i think the office space will have to be pulled back but we're not really doing any harm we're not fighting the square footage or eliminating bedrooms we're looking the additional fluff in the this i think needs to shrink. i want to comment my pet peaceful i believe this set of drawings is barrel making it as far as representing the complexed of this the fact

there's no rendering has made it difficult for the justice of this project but for the bring your attention i believe we should take dr in step one and supporting the departments recommendations for the set back on the street i suggest to the commission to take the street fatiguing deck away. >> commissioner antonini. >> yeah. i agree with a lot of the things that commissioner moore says although i think you have to consider this case by case. i've been involved with a lot of them. there is one case where one size doesn't fit all. i need to be closer to the front. there are a lot of examples of places in the neighborhood where there's no set back but that

doesn't mean mates what we want to have but is the most important issue is blends in with the rest of the house and looks like it belongs there. i think even if you're the drawings and the drawings do lack a lot here. even if the drawing that shows with the roof is and where the visible line occurs so to ask for 9 foot is contradiction of with your your showing you. you'll need 11 feet set back there's lots of rooms there's five or six bedrooms it's an extensive room judgment.

i'm not sure the cutting off the back session as commissioner moore wants to do but the deck is an eyesore and depending on how the deck is done it shouldn't be in the back of the home i'm agree. see what the other commissioners have to say >> i'm supportive of the staffs recommendation. we have to trust the residential design team. with regards to commissioner moore's suggestion i think that the deck on the front seems rare so i think i'm could support that. i'm not sure about the rear because hearing from staff there's a lot of negotiating within the design team and the inputs on the rear >> commissioner antonini. >> i recommend to take dr and

approve the project with staff recommendation and adding with the illuminations of the deck that faces the street. >> second. >> o'connor. >> i'd like to ask staff and it might not be be this project about wherever a deck protrudes in the demising lines of other adjacent properties looking into the personal parts of homes it unacceptable. i want to put that forward as an idea which sometimes, we catch but in this particular case it's kind of not obeying being addressed i don't want to over turn the apple cart we're close

to approval we need to be aware of protecting privacy under the circumstances >> commissioners there see a motion to take the project with the staff modifications including the modification of the deck. >> commissioner antonini. commissioner moore. commissioner fong commissioner president wu >> so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 4 to zero. that places you on public comment there are no speaker cards >> seeing none, public comment is closed and meeting folks.

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