and always going after the lowest cost for the rate payers. >> thank you mr. president. >> so again projected saving -- however only about 32 percent or so increase or encounter in year 10 compared to 63 million and then the rest of them are technical tables and shows what the value of a penny is to the various departments. >> yes commissioner moran. >> thank you todd the numbers you have circled that's the impact on the departments on the one penny increase? >> that would be if we included the mta before their baseline if. if we excluded the mta --

>> half of that was part of the prior planning? >> that's right. >> okay so the additional half cent is like 1.7 million? >> the additional half cent will be directly on the general fund about 1 dot 4 or 1 dot 5 million for electricity and in addition the mayor's proposal full reimbursement -- >> then the additional cost to go solar? >> the additional cost to go solar would be to go solar would be $3 million a year over the next 2 years. >> okay so basically most of the half cent goes to go solar?

>> that's the equivalent, yeah. >> thank you. >> so again shows the dramatic improvement compared to what we started with back in february and it was also with difficult choices so just to be able to assume the one penny over the next 3 years and a half a penny a penny as well as to update it to reflect the third quarter strong reserve that's slightly more than 15 percent. >> sorry stuck on that question -- so you don't need to attribute a certain pot of money for a program like go go solar that doesn't go back and benefit the public dollar if you will? i know i'm not saying that right but aren't we

subsidizing a residential program right? >> it is a residential program and it's a program that's not directly our customers currently but it's a policy prerogative and so it really is a policy choice. >> so it doesn't need to be a direct transfer from a certain source of money? >> my reason for raising the point is that it is sometimes viewed that that hetchy funding a program like go solar is free money, it's not. so that you know the more that we do, the more pressure that puts in on general fund power rates and the more pressure that puts on the general fund -- >> right. >> we're at a point now where

there's reserves where we used to have cash reserves they are projected to be significantly lowered to what are just what our 15 percent levels are the lowest levels given the volatility that we're in. so now that we have to go borrow money to bond fund our capital. mr. general manager? >> i just wanted to highlight the fact any program especially after the 2 years of go solar or any other program like that, we pretty much maximized out so any additional capital un foreseen capital issues that will come up we would turn to the general fund rate to try to compensate or look for for

new, customers and i think the mayor's office recognized that. >> we might want to talk to the department of the environment about that hetch hetchy money isn't free basically the equivalent of general fund money and how do we do what we feel we need to do? >> so in light of those comments i did send a communication to the general manager and cc's commissioner vietor and the go solar conversation is absolutely appropriate. >> okay thank you and the next item is also the presentation in your packet under item 15 in the capital plan the slide there is a repeat from what the covered in the general manager

reports and those updates to balance the capital program as well as the mayor's proposed increased. it reprograms cca to make us have to borrow less money over the year in particular. only $45 million in the fall as opposed to $72 million that helps there and the hetch hetchy plan is now balanced over 10 years and we'll be back before you every single year so with that item 16 then is the first 2 years of this plan and a request of the general manager to request

supplemental appropriation. happy to answer any questions. >> so with respect to the slight changes this typographical right? >> yeah they are headings so scenario 1, 2, and 3 -- cso is very detailed oriented so i'll provide those for the record to the secretary as well. >> there's no objections from my colleagues very good. any questions? >> thank you todd. >> thank you. >> so with respective to items 14, 15 and 16 right donna? >> correct. >> i'll call for a motion unless the commissioner would prefer to do separately. >> so moved. >> it's been moved and seconded. >> i'll now call for public comment. seeing none public comment is now closed. all

those in favor please signify by saying aye. >> madam secretary will you please read the next item? >> would you like for me -- >> closed session items which we'll hear public comment on item 19 will be anticipated litigation item 20 conference with property negotiatorr. >> item 21. >> item 22. >> item 23. >> item 24. >> item 25. >> item 26.

>> now we are onto item 17. >> thank you very much donna. >> with respect to item number 17 i have a number of speaker cards if you want to have a comment on item number 17 would you please fill one out? i'd like to call tanya urofski. >> good afternoon tanya you have a special consideration i believe you also have a statement from the member of the public who couldn't be here today so you can have up to 6 minutes. >> thank . >> thank you. i won't take that long. thank you so much for allowing me to speak this afternoon. i'm tanya a group

of over 200 concerned citizens that united together 6 years ago and welcome place for residents and visitors alike i walk allot and people stop us locals for questions and directions we love answering those questions. many visitors to our neighborhood are san francisco residents come from other neighborhoods in the city specifically and more particular the mission district there's a lot of families that come and have recreation in our area they come for water use and -- this sunday for instance i ran into a family they came to the u.s. from elsalvador 2

years ago their little 2-year old played with my dog they told me how much they enjoyed being at this future park site i see families coming to our neighborhood to recreate at the park. they are mostly large families with children and the families all want to come and this is going to be their park too this is regarding item 20 on your closed session and i'm just going to read an excerpt from chianlin who wanted me to say this land is an open space and acts as a hub between many diverse neighborhoods and clean

area and beautiful views that concludes my comment thank you for your time. >> thank you very much for being here today. the next speaker card i have is from jeanie walker. >> my name is jean ye walker and i'm happy to be here. i have been involved in many people -- representing russian hill we moved to san francisco over 39 years ago i'm a retired teacher after teaching 35 years. >> good for you. >> when we started having children i asked the neighbor mr. and mrs. wong where should we go take our kids to play

baseball and they said there's 2 parks and well i took the kids up to the alice mar gold for basketball and tennis that's all and then went to bay street and the ball went into the street i go after him before the traffic gets him that was the first and last time we were on bay street. we are fortunate to have this area. it is so beautiful and can be made so so -- san francisco is fortunate that families are moving here from all parts of the city and recently i know that from our street alone on francisco we

have 7 more kids on on the block so these children need a place to play we are getting a significant fluks of people. >> this has been zoned for open space for sometime we've been working for a park for decades and sincerely i hope you will facility this for us. >> thank you very much for being here today. helen race r and bruce king and frank dawkin so you can line up if you want. >> hello commissioners. >> hello ann. >> thank you so much for this opportunity to speak about a proposed park at hyde and francisco i think the real beneficiaries will be our

visitors. many of them getting off the cable car at hyde and lombard to view the crooked street. >> herb caen 1972 when i connect with those children sometimes they need a bathroom well i happen to have one so i often have a steady stream of children coming to the bathrooms. we will have bathrooms at francisco park which is really exciting thing. i care passionate ly about this park i've solicited pledges from people and i've certainly given myself i've made my pledge as have all our

committee so i do thank you for this chance to speak to you about what i hope will be a park for all people thank you. >> thank you very much for being here thanks for all your hard work. bruce king please. >> good afternoon bruce king 28-year resident of russian hill and during that time my choice if i wanted to kick a ball throw an frisbee was to to go to the busy district. i've worked with the improvement district for 8 years trying to get this property accessible to the public and for the last 3 years worked with north beach neighbors and russian hill neighbors and bi monthly meetings to reach a park project consensus and also had

collaboration with the park department department and continue to receive additional support from additional neighborhood recreational open space groups throughout the city. there's broad public support there's broad political support for this project and no opposition that we're aware of at this time. i feel this is a lifetime opportunity to add a beautiful new recreational facility for san francisco's future and for the benefit of all who live and visit here i thank you for your time and support. >> thank you for being here today. john lock rin. >> good afternoon. >> good afternoon general manager and commissioners. we also have a lot of supporters who have come to us or we've

gone to them. obviously the neighborhood groups that are part of the committee and we have gallileo and golden gate auto bahn society san francisco beautiful and san francisco parks alliance and san francisco tomorrow and even the rowing club even though it's not on the water's edge and many others that we're speaking to as well. it's an open space and to make it a park will make it a much more accessible open space as far as the accessibility over the the last 10 years -- i live on francisco and had some major operations and that path that is the francisco path as we call it to the hyde section was my therapy walk and the puc was nice enough to put in timber

steps that ended up as a de facto seat that i could sit there so i could get the mental nourishment so i could cover so i thank the puc for the bench and i hope it's the leading edge for other people to sit there and contemplate the beautiful view from the golden gate bridge to the richmond bridge and all that's between it thank you very much. >> thank you for being here. thanks for being here. good afternoon. >> good afternoon. you have heard from people from the neighborhood. i reside in be rna l heights but i had the opportunity to see the view and

see the opportunity to make this into a park and transform that area. 3 reasons for change i see it's another opportunity for green space for kids, adults to rumpus and to kick balls without worrying about traffic. i see as i stated, the view being able to see the golden gate bridge from there without having to deal with a lot of the people who are down at the on the waterfront itself and being able to be a part of the community and thirdly, the environment and city pride. to be able to have that green space to enlarge the opportunity to have more trees in san francisco, that's the reason i feel that this should be a park and to broaden the

neighborhood. thank you. >> thank you very much for coming today. >> oh no problem. >> i'm going to call 3 more. i'm going to start with abraham simmons lynn jefferson and robert gerrard. >> good afternoon. >> i come to you as a father who speaks in favor of this project. this park from the perspective of a father of 3 is truly a god sent i do not get out here enough and speak enough about the project i like and in opposition to the ones i don't but i'm almost always in favor of these projects for the families to have an easier time in san francisco and to stay in

san francisco so i want to say this project is a god sent and i don't get a chance to thank all these people all the time to put in a word from the north beach neighbors and russian hill neighbors all the people we're hearing from today who have been in support of this project that make lives like mine so much easier in san francisco so i'm in support of the project and i hope this commission stays in support of it and it's something that we can all look forward to. the scope and site is amazing and although we on the north side would love to claim it as a park if the north side but truly the way it looks would be a park for the entire city so go to it. >> thank you very much for being here today. lynn jefferson good afternoon. >> my name is lynn jefferson

and i currently serve on the francisco reservoir working group and i have been for 2 and a half years it's been truly what i would call a very collaborative effort i serve also as president of the board of directors for cal high community center located on north beach on lombard street every day we serve 6 to 7 hundred people including babies toddlers children, seniors and families coming from chinatown the immediate neighborhood and they would be very served by a park at the reservoir site and i'm working on a project with the director of after school programs to get the kids

involved in a civic project so they can learn about what does it take for us to create a park at the site of of the francisco reservoir. there would be thousands of children served. there would be thousands of families and seniors and it would just be a wonderful addition and it would be considered a city park because some of some of the people we serve come from beyond the neighborhood. francisco middle school for example is a new immigrant school and a lot of kids come by bus from treasure island so i want to say in closing because we've all been here for a long time but it would benefit all members from from

the diverse community that we live in and beyond so i'd ask all of you to consider all of us to go forward with this program thank you very much for your time. >> thank you very much for being here today i'll call robert and the next speaker is curt and george and helen. >> good afternoon. >> members of the commission francisco reservoir site i think the parks department is right it would make a an supurb park it will be a beautiful tranquil green oasis

i think it's san francisco's missed opportunity in the foreseeable future for a major new park. the northeastern part of the city is heavily populated. it suffers from the shortage of neighborhood parks and playgrounds so a park on the site is needed. people in the vicinity have is shown their commitment, this intensity by raising the money needed to create and operate the park. i think future residents of this city will look back and commend with gratitude the great and wise foresight of those who

helped create the park. thank you very much. >> thank you very much for being here today. >> hello. >> hello. >> good afternoon commissioners and general manager. i live across town in the hillside above noe valley. i'm the president of the norwegian church. we're also impacted like helen mentioned by people needing a restroom we have never complained and we take care of the restrooms and they are clean and welcome to all. since we're open we get heavily impacted whenever there's a major event happening on the

northern waterfront such as fleet week and last week when we had the america's cup and not to mention 4th of july our balcony is open and we have to close the door usually at 7 o'clock on the 4th of july and there's kids with tears in their eye wishing they could come up to the balcony. if they had a place where they could perhaps have a picnic in the afternoon and sit and watch the fire works in the evening, it would be a true blessing and your consideration for making this possible is appreciated thank you. >> thank you very much for being here today. george tartikos? >> good afternoon. >> i'll be very brief because i think i'm the last speaker. i

live on chest nut street 1080 chest nut street for over 10 years it's a wonderful area and this is an open space that i'd like to see remain a site for the benefit not only of the neighborhood but for all the tourists that come and i've been working for a number of years now to make the park and maintain the park in a in a way we'd be proud of and as you know the intersection down there on lombard and hyde is very very busy and a lot of people especially tourists like to take pictures and they are walking through the street and sometimes you can even see them playing on the street and taking in the sites at

different angles and the light which creates a difficult situation for those that have to drive by it and the cable car and a lot of people walk by so if there was a park it would make possible for all the residents and tourists to just walk down to chest nut and hyde walk to the park rest a little bit and enjoy the views and take as many pictures as they wish because it would be so easy and the community has is shown mr. gerard mentioned is shown the interest and support for pledging the money for not only the building of the park but maintenance of the park and any additional things they need in the future to make it the best park in this particular region thank you very much. >> thank you very much for being here