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the puc. talk about some wastewater. michael did indeed talk about that. we have a combined effect in san francisco. so here is a picture of our system here. he's described to you our combined system, what it does. we operate a thousand miles. as we talk about water conservation, we don't think about the sewage system. all of a sudden we went from 80 million gallons a day coming to our treatment plant, the significance of our water treatment as we have one 1 gallon flush tanks, how do we get the material for the miles from the presidio to the
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plant. something we should all think about. as this has to travel through the pipes. we are not used to dealing with this. we have to change handout you we run our operations. it's not just enough water to transport the materials. we run four plans in san francisco. we refer to it as the newest one but it was commissioned in 1993. it's pretty old already. in treasure island we operate it on behalf of the native on behalf of the operator. we have the wet facility only online during wet weather across from pier 39 and working on to renew the treatment plant. almost 80 percent of the sewage is treated at this particular plant south east. the combined system here is a picture of
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the combined system. then we have these transport boxes that we can treat almost 600 million gallons on any given day think about that. because we treat storm water, our system operates different than any other place in the bay area. we can go from normal dry weather flow from 80 million gallons in all our treatment plans to almost 600 million gallons within an hour. that's a significant change in flow. it's still a biological process. so these transports that you see in the middle, they hold all the water. we can also hold about 200 million gallons worth of storage. inside these transport boxer are huge, they are underneath the highway. all of these materials settle to the bottom and it goes to the treatment plant. all the
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lighter material flows to the top and we capture that stuff. some of the challenges we are experiencing now on the wastewater side is a picture of a lake in second avenue last year in may. sinkholes are appearing. aging infrastructure both in our collection system and treatment plant. obviously the size of vulnerability. the size of the pipes is the only way that the sewage can get from our largest pump station to the ballpark out to southeast plant. it broke in the '89 earthquake and two times after that. some things that other planners have never had to deal with in the past. the effects of climate change. what other people are talking about is it real or not? >> i started to see it in 1990 and there was never a high tide that came into our system. this last year we
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have experienced 7. that is significant. we have to address it through the capital work that we are doing. how are we going to fix that? certainly the puc is taking the big step in this direction with our sewage system improvement program that michael our deputy is referring to. we address this as our green clean solution. this is the cost. and then when we talk about gray, we are talking about any hard is surfaces, paint is surfaces, renewing our digesters, improving our treatment plan. all of these gray solutions. there is a picture in the middle, the green. there is a picture of mission bay. we are using the green structure, to address things that we have never done in the past. we are not expanding the capacity of
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our treatment plants. we are trying to slowdown storm water or eliminate storm water from our system. so every time we put in a plant, the rain water fills that area. it actually going into ground water. so what does that do? it slows down the storm water from rushing on all of these paved is surfaces buying us time to treat what falls on the ground in san francisco. clean obviously, we are responsible for protecting the bay. my job is pretty interesting. i actually don't, i'm responsible for what you use for the products that go down your showers, sinks and toilets and we are responsible to making sure that what goes into the bay ocean receiving
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water is as clean as possible. phase one is approved. it's $2.7 billion and phase two we are working on. some designs are going into place. as you can see the total program is almost $7 billion worth of work. this is significant because it's the volume that we don't have a regulatory driver and most any work of significance is to speak for. this is volumes for what we care about and san francisco wants to protect for future generations the bay and the oceans around us. one significant piece in the past that we've been building boxes of the treatment plan of expanding the capacity. we are taking a new look at this. we are having the whole team look at urban water shed assessment and we are also using this bottom line to do this.
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public outreach obviously is signature, -- significant, it's going to affect the rate. at the end of the day we are about four things. why why we are doing all of this work here. financially we should be responsible for what we do and the fourth one is we have to sustain the practices that we do. this is just a chart to show the things how we are actually going to get this done. this is a big deal for the puc in this program. this is what we actually go through. i heard earlier the speakers talk about education grants and incentives and greater greener structure and storm and design guidelines. this is a big deal and the department of environment had been involved in this piece here as we try to manage storm water as much as possible on sites for the
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development anywhere more than 500 feet has to adhere to storm water guidelines. the final piece for that is the level of service needs and how this is suitable. we look at the lowest areas are and where our projects are and how this gets affected and suit ability is a big deal and what are the opportunities in each one of these water sheds for us to do stuff on. we have selected some places that we are going to be -- some projects. they are basically eight water sheds in san francisco. there is one from each one of the water sheds as you can see on here. we are spending $57 million to do these particular projects. these projects are looking to some of the technologies, do they actually work before we go and expend more money elsewhere. here is a before and after. i'm not sure who would want to live on that street. there is some
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challenges that come with beautification and also there is a big cost. there is a new line of business for the san francisco puc. but we are very excited about it as is the public. this is just a couple samples. this mission in valencia. andante end of the day, you care to live without me, your no. 2 is my no. 1, no one deals with more crap than i do. thank you for listening. i'm available for any questions you may have. >> thank you. mr. courtney? >> first of all for those who have not had a chance to speak with tommy, i highly recommend to try to get a hold of him because it's a wealth of information and knowledge. and he and karen and -- it's a
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great honor for me to work with them from time to time and i always find myself getting more and more educated about the great work they do that oftentimes it goes unnoticed. but with respect to the linkage between the two commissions and two missions, we spoke earlier about the pesticides and to what extent that runs off. for those of you who don't know another shame less plug for the labors union that we represent the staff for the sewers. being a sewage worker on a hot day, think of doing that job for not just one 1 day but for 30 years. i have the utmost respect for those men and women. vice-president king would talk about flushing the medicine down the toilet and why it's not a good idea to do that and we talked about some of the pesticides because we have one of the facilities
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out there. the george bush facility now. did we pass that? >> it was close. >> i wanted to make sure that we had some linkage between these two commissions and these two missions, if you would mind, make a few comments, please. >> yes, sure. there is a link between the two departments here. we work very closely, one on education and we try to follow up on that piece very significant piece that we are investing in the future rate payers of san francisco. the resource recovery piece. for the pharmaceutical stuff, we don't want that to get in there. we feel very strongly that the people who produce these drugs should be able to take them back. we have drop off areas now and working all over with the bay area to make this program happen. it's a
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significant piece for the puc. but the tie in my business, there is a lot of vector. it's not just odors, but mosquitos, some standing water in a lot of places. so we actually spend a lot of money. think about it, every corner has a catch basin of water sitting there. so we have to treat for mosquitos. i'm going to tell you you will see a dot in every catch basin and it will be a different color to tell that someone has treated it. there is people running around in bicycles to ensure that it's been treated. and rodent control is also a big piece for us. that's done by a contract or. there is a lot of rodents inside the sewers. >> a lot of the press and the
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attention doesn't really go to the fact that really the public utilities commission and the sewer division itself places a great deal of emphasis on creating opportunities in the southeast part of our city whether it's the mosquito abatement and training programs. the work that you have done is nothing less than incredible. you know that a lot of the trade unions in particular are targeting the southeast sector and opportunities whether they are reservoirs or green houses, southeast facility gets a lot of attention. but, i would like to make a note of that for the record, in the event that our colleagues of the department of environment, the commission on the environment begin to take an interest and see a linkage to find a common ground and move forward. thank you very much, tommy. >> commissioner, did you have a question for tommy? >> if we can. thank you so
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much. to continue the puns, one department's trash is another department's treasure, what you think about biogas of energy and opportunity for the treatment plant? >> we do that. we have out of our southeast plant we produce about a million cubic feet daily. we run a 2.2 mega watt generate or out there. we have two engines 2.75 mega watts each and that is run by biogas. as we move forward in the future, these are 1942 technologies, so these are old. as we build this new as part of the $2.7 billion program we should be able to add food waste and other things in there. we should be able to capture more gas and to be able to use it. whether it's to create energy. we don't want to be able to
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diversify our portfolio. we are doing vehicles and tomorrow we are doing electricity. we should have the most advantageous for our rate payers money. >> what do you think about the capacity of the new biogas electrical generation plants will be of all sort of vehicle fuels? >> at this point we don't know. we are doing the analysis right now. we are in the design, moving forward, we are not quite there yet. but i think every facility that we are going to be building will have solar. we have civil -- several solar facilities on our properties. resource recovery is a big deal for us. we collect from every restaurant. we are not just even big producers of grease, but turning bio diesel also. we start the program as a
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pretreatment. we want to get the grease out of the sewer. we spend $4 million a year. we started to send crews down mom and pop place that put the grease water and pour it down the sewer. we are generating money for that and plus it's keeping it out of the sewer. resource recovery is a big thing for us, not just biogas, any grease related stuff. it was once used. all the water out of our treatment plant can be used. 100 percent is being recycled. it's helping the city's goal to meet. so we are trying our very best. >> that's great. i think at the department we would be super happy to do that
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especially on the renewable energy to buy gas. i have one more question, what proportion of the $2.7 billion budget in phase one is devoted to the green programs so to speak. is that $57 million for the implementation project or is there more than that? >> the over all budget for the 20 program is somewhere around $400 million. the $57 million we want to test out this technology if it actually works. we've never done them in the past we know of cities that do that. the city is going to trim the trees to make sure they look nice. how do you think about that ?
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>> but i also wanted to point out that there are a number of these great lid projects in the works right now or that have been completed that people can go and see, like the swales and at the sunset parking lot and the mint plaza and a number of others that are in place right now that people can see. cesar chavez is one of the ones and some of the things that it is pec has done we have not enough to say enough about and i think that the storm guidelines and the tool kit that he produced is just a wonderful document and i
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believe that it is on-line and i would encourage the people to take a look at it and we mentioned the rain barrels in the context of water conservation and all of these things overlap and again, putting your roof water in the rain barrels instead of the combined system is a really good thing to do and so these are some of the things that i think that later on we will talk about how we can work on and especially with regard to out reach and education, and community involvement. and but i also wanted to mention a little bit before sue talks more about toxics is to talk about the tok i cans tox toxic and that is the sources of the stuff that gets into our streets and awful the gunk that drips out of your cars and the brake linings and also what we have to do with in terms of the pollution and has to do with the automobile among other things and the dog poop and the
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pesticides and the herbcides that we talked about and the sediments and there is a lot here and i look forward to a discussion to look forward to deal with that and now i am happy to introduce, and she will talk more about the relationship between the toxic and the waste water managements. >> thank you, commissioners, i manage the toxic program and i am going to give you the implement in the toxic and program also identify the areas where we actively collaborate with the pucs. and before talking about the initiatives, i would like to give you the context in which we operate, and as you may know, throughout 85,000 chemicals, and because chemicals are poorly regulated in the united states, additional 1,000 chemicals are introduced every year. and we don't know a lot about the environment and health
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impacts of these chemicals but we do know that they are accumulating in the living organisms like our bodies and they are accumulating in the environment and due to the use of the chemicals and improper disposal. and often times it means that the products that contain these chemicals and so, our goals, are essentially twofold and one is to minimize health impacts to these chemicals by identifying and promoting safer alternatives and it could be safer practice or a product substitute and number two is to minimize the environmental impacts by creating an infrastructure for the safe disposal. and when we designed the programs, we look at two different things, one is that we understand that the tactics that we use have to be different based on the target audience and so when we work
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with businesses or residence we may have a different tactic and number two, we check in with our sister agencies to make sure that we are getting programs that help the goals of the other agencies as well. and now i am going to give you a snapshot of how we implement toxic programs in each of these targets. let's start with the municipal agencies and you heard from chris and he talked about the efforts in reducing the pesticide use and chris's team also leads the implementation of the green purchasing ordinance which was adopted by the city of 2005 and it says as a city we want to lead by example and we will only buy green products but there is a lot of work that gets into defining what makes a product green and we spent the time creating the specific identifications to identify the green products and we work with the end users to identify the
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products that work and to identify their needs. and so, what you see in front of you is a view of sf approved.org and it is a directory that includes the wisdom on the green purchasing and it has the specifications and the green products that we have for the city use and next we are going to talk about what we do with the residents and so with these residents, almost all residents, generate household space. and so because the chemicals that we talked about earlier, many of them are what we use every day like shampoo and the pesticide and cleaning products and we want to start by educating the people and the residents not to put the products improperly in the trash can or pure them down the drain and we will get the solutions to safely dispose of these products there is a
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hazardous waste facility and number two, we maintain infrastructure of 180-plus retail drop off sites that the residents can take their batteries, lamps and paint and other toxic products to or three and number three we launched a program and the residents of the individual service free program. and second, you earlier heard us talk about the safe medicine program and in addition to maintaining the infrastukt turf the disposal sites, we also are looking out of our scanning for the new chemicals and the new products in the environment and we have a program and a special program for used motor oil and recycling and this program is maintained through funding made available by the state, and most recently, we launched a safe medicine program that are funding from the pharmaceutical industry of pharm a and we are
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working with the puc and the police department to find these sites to recruit them and to train them and to maintain them. and to date, it was collected over 35,000 pounds of unwanted medicine, since the program's inception in 2012. and now, it goes to the business sector and on the business sector, as we can imagine, every business has very unique needs, based on their operations, and they use a different set of chemicals and so we have had to create customized programs based on the needs of the business and so i am going to give you one or two examples here and very early on we worked with the puc on the reduction program and we worked with (inaudible) and while the puc worked on developing a permit program for dentists to help to reduce the mercury that was disposed into the bay and we came to help with the training and out reach and provided incentives to install this device and we worked with the large hospitals and to have trained them in the
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pollution and pretension opportunities and we worked with the dry cleaners and all of the businesses that you have seen and in the interest of time i will not talk about each program, but one thing that i wanted to point out to you is the fact that we emphasized the work of health a lot. and we understand that in some cases the work goes out in a disproportionate health risk and they have limited access to the health information, and so, for instance we, have created a training curriculum and we for vietnamese, and in korea and in cantonese for the dry cleaners and some examples of the programs and so you heard me talk about the financial incentives for the businesses and training and out reach, and the third in the tool box that we use for the businesses is recognition and we have a program called the green business recognition program that david talked about earlier and it is for small to medium
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