the vehicles, when we stopped to pick up the people, and it could be for up to ten minutes or even more. and so, i am going to read this from, how much is idling costing new york the city of san francisco sfgtv meeting of the neighborhoods and services committee occurring may , 15, 2014, will new york city drivers, they waste, in the fuel burned while idling, and it also inflicts more wear and tear on the engines leading to more high maintenance costs. new york has feed for the people who idle more than one minute adjacent to schools and three minutes for the rest of new york city. we in san francisco, don't have an equivalent law. and i happened to use a para

transit quite a bit. and no matter how many letters i write to the para transit about their drivers idling their vehicles, and i have given copies to this commission as well. i don't get any response, and they continue, and the drivers continue to idle and i have to continually ask them to please not to do that and so here is one, clever, and one funny little situation. and did, and the one driver that i had, idling to 20 minutes when he was looking for a passenger, i said will you please turn your motor off? and he said i can't, afford to

waste gas. and so, any way, i hope..., we can do something with this, and these cars, and maybe, find baners, like we did in the past, and we had baners, you know, they had baners on mission street, and that is where i found out that you could use toothpaste to shine your silver. and it works and who news because we need to go back to those. thank you. >> dennis, it is great to see you sister and all of your great work with the labor organizations. and this is in the wheel house, actually. >> this is what? >> this is in the wheel house, it takes a while because the people did not want to wear the helmets on motorcycles, right? and they did not want to do it and they, and it did not make sense to them and now it is

automatic seat belts and the same thing and as the city gets more and more congested, you can see that we are painting the lanes green and red and there is no reason why we will not focus on something like this and it is great that you came here and you stayed this long and you talked to us about it and it is great to see you too. >> okay. >> next? >> thank you, >> thank you, president, and commissioners of both bodies, and my name is jed and i am a long time san francisco resident and environmental scientist and co-coordinator and i want to say that with respect to the efficiency and the programs that you folks have talked about today i am a renter and i have been one for 15 years here and it is hard for me to think of a single landlord who could not terribly be classified as a slum lord

who will pretty much not take these actions unless, they are really, really pushed. and so, it is important that you keep in mind, how to target the seemingly sizeable percentage of the land owners in the city, who may not really be interested in making these kinds of improvements or tapping into the city programs at all. >> many of whom do not live here and i want to briefly talk about renewable energy and the clean power sf and obviously, and we have heard, as jason pointed out a lot of climate change related effects and i want to thank commissioner gravanis for mentioning the goal that so many staff took so long trying to prepare. and we are very happy about go solar sf and we are happy about clean finance sf and the full gamut that the rest of the city family are working on but the simple fact of the matter is that as you heard him say

earlier there is no other strategy. and without being able to pool together, the city's energy consumers, and get that revenue stream going, you simply cannot scale big enough to get to 100 percent and we can do the solar sf for many, many years, and be this far towards addressing our climate and impacts. and the clean energy and the sonoma clean power as someone mentioned previously have established at this point that they can provide cleaner power for pg&e for cheaper and that is what we need to focus on here and shall does not need to be involved, if we can get the adoption of a program that offers the cleaner power, at a cheaper rate, we will have very large buy-in, and with that body of consumers we will be able to ratchet up the ps over time to actually get our city

towards 100 percent renewable energy to answer the earlier question, work that is already been done through the puc by a previous contractor has established that with the most aggressive funding, 50 percent of san francisco's load, could be 100 percent renewable and locally generated within ten years of program launch. and so i would just like to say, i really hope that the puc will continue to work with lasco as the feesbility study continues and to get 100 of megawatts of energy and hundreds of local union jobs, thank you very much. >> any other members of the public? >> seeing none, public comment is closed. any colleagues want president courtney to bring us together and collect the thoughts?

>> and the whole thing before we collect our thoughts, and maybe we are only allowed to do this for this reason and the city attorneys will tell me and maybe i have to do it as a member of a public and it came to my attention a day or two, after we put together the agenda, and that the puc controls sort of the larger amount of land in the water shed and south of san francisco. and there is a bunch of folks that i have been talking to who are keen to see the puc open that up to the hikers and the bikers. and another recreational users and i was just keen to just kind of bring that up in this forum and that is not something directly related to the joint work that the department of the environment does. maybe we are not allowed to talk about this. and i am going to be talking about this and i was talking about this.

>> okay. >> there is a lot of easement that we need and we do have the land that is held by the leaseholders. and i would ask, if he is okay with it, could you give us just a 30-second on that? >> he can respond but it is not on the agenda and you should not have a lot of discussion about it. and i think that the response might be that we could get back to him individually, with a response. >> and i will talk to you after the meeting. >> okay. >> thank you. sir. >> and thank you, commissioner. >> sure. >> for our next joint meeting.

>> the idea was that we have had a discussion of opportunities and challenge and potential future collaboration, pursuit of environmental objectives, you know, one thing to throw out and obviously it is a lot of content, and for us on the commissioner on the environment we have to figure out how to approach a two-hour agenda that we had calculated would end in about 20 minutes, but because we wanted to do that, you know, i think that we wanted to know more about the great work of the puc in that environmental kind of lens in that context and hear about what our departments do together. and learn, and so now in that way, it was, at least for myself and others about the information sharing and getting to know one another. and in brain storming, i mean to me, we had a long conversation, but to me one of the most right kind of opportunities for the collaboration might have been in the beginning in some ways and we talked about the

linkages between how there can be shared approaches to reduce the need for pesticides and the need for water at some of these places where we have heard, certainly for us that commission on the environment where they do the golf courses and the golf tournaments is that is something that vexes our department and to me that seemed to be a ripe kind of an area for a collaboration when they were standing there together and of course, in the other things that are obviously we are going to have the longer conversation about the 100 percent renewable energy, and i think that we learned a lot of the stuff tonight, both recently and we have learned about go solar and a lot about the clean power sf and a lot of things to digest and think through. and the path on 100 percent, clean energy. and certainly, there is new stuff about the clean power sf for some of us never knew about a half hour ago is the first time that i heard that shell was out of the picture for sure. >> and that is probably harold

as something sort of positive by a lot of folks and that is just my thoughts and i saw a lot of opportunity for the collaboration around the integrated management team and the puc water team maybe in a pilot project that kind of shows how you can have an approach to the type of use in the open space that decreases the need for these pesticide applications and brings down the need to water, and you know, supports the local communities and workers, and there might be something right for the collaboration around that. okay. >> and okay, so in my just to kind of hone in on some topics, that are of real interest to me. and i think that everybody has, and there is a lot of talent in the room and i am really happy to be here and i was enthusiastic about having this conversation because when we went to the environment commission, when my organization went to the environment commission, you recognized the workers and you

recognized the people and sometimes we get caught up in the policy, and the practice and procedure, and that is why i wanted to see some people here and i wanted to see some field staff here, because that is what excites me and that is what excites them, and there are a lot of people and you know a lot of families and a lot of local residents and josh's great work on the local hire with john avalos and i think that when you recognize that the program, and when the department, and the environment commission recognized the apprenticeship program and it kind of got the president and i talking a little bit about there really is incredible amount of common ground, although you don't have all of the staff that like the recreation and parks department and the department of public works and the puc has and they are working for the department of the environment because it is all intermingled and jake used to call the recreation and the parks department the health department and he is right about that and i want to figure out a way where we can joinly move something forward and a

lot of opportunities, to introduce local youth to the ipm program. and to introduce local youth to what we are doing in the sewers, and we do a lot of good video, work and we do a lot of that good, electronic work and we reach out to the kids, and but, i mean, that the youth, that are looking for the employment, and the youth that are looking for the career and that kind of and that is what gets our juices flowing and we can come up with some kind of an idea, where we don't have to reenvent the wheel but we jointly put something together for the commission and the commission on the environment and to actually set the ball rolling for some kind of a program where we introduce actual workers and perspective workers, to some of these task and some of these careers because, if we don't do it, you know, we miss a big opportunity, to kind of reach out into the communitis in need and the under served communities and i think that i, and just based on what i know about most of the people in this room is that i think that it is just about getting that ball rolling and that is one of

the things that excited me the most about today and i am grateful that president, and the rest of you, will be willing to sit here and go through this because it is a long meeting but i don't imagine that the next couple of meetings and they should happen, routinely, would take quite as long and that is when we can really get in and dive in and make some decisions and policy decisions for sure. >> thoughts? colleagues? >> commissioner? >> just to add to that, i was truly impressed about the amount of joint work and commonality and overlap between the two departments, that is already going on. i think that we should try to have more than one joint initiative. and not just settle for one, and i would like to suggest

that the other initiative we at least start out by thinking about how we could work together to get the city to 100 percent renewable because the climate challenge is such a huge threat to everything else that we are all committed to. and believe in. but i certainly look forward to the future meetings and i am very heartened president courtney by hearing you say that they should be routine and regular, i certainly endorse that. >> and i think that if we, when we got to the last item, if we had the what do you call it? the vigor and everything that you have in the start, of the meeting we probably would have more brain storms too, about how to do that but i think that we have to. i think that you are right.

commissioner wald? >> and other thoughts? and commissioners? >> i would like to make a motion that we adjourn. >> all right. >> we are adjourned, thanks, everybody. good afternoon ladie gentlemen, let me first a call this san francisco public utilities commission to order at the 2:00 p.m. mrrtd read the roll >> commissioner courtney.

kwaen. commissioner torres. commissioner moran is expected in a moment and commissioner torres is excused >> thank you please call the roll. >> the next it the minutes for may 13, 2014. >> commissioners. >> i'd like to move the approval. >> it's been mofld and seconded my public comment relate to item 3 the approval of the minutes of may seeing none, public comment is closed. it's been moved and seconded i'll call for a vote please certify by you and opposed the motion carries madam secretary next >> i have 3 speaker cards please submit a speaker cards the first is from francisco.

good afternoon >> good afternoon, commissioners. i'd like to first take action (inaudible) >> advocates come over here to speak so there are some new assistant general manager's who have come on board that are other assistant general managers who have already about this on board and, of course, our general manager who knows elsewhere that i'm going to be speaking about in the two minutes and 21 seconds that i have. so let me start with reminding everybody at one time a force main by third my marine was

compromised the extractions in this area explicit do it good job on the main force and on the side that conduits that were dug compromising the main force you all need to get some explanation but that was a very, very serious situation it commodity the park and sit down that is in existence and destroyed number it you, you know, commissioners at one time not a general manager and another assistant general manager wanted to put there three combustion con biennials we had a commissioner richard who worked for the community to stop that nuisance and none 3 for the last 4 years

i've been writing about cal versus we know the situation the good thing is we have a project manager his name is dan his past experience will help him to address the situation at hand arrest number 4 my writings i mention about the mountain tunnel so somehow the spashgs wasn't done correct and now we have to pay for it. number 5 we need to study go solar and 6 weighing the testimony we'll can you think some real injustice with the community choice we need to reflect we if we don't have community members speaking up some community members do what

they want and we need a buffer >> thank you fanning kiss the next card. good afternoon >> good afternoon, commissioners. i'm a long time resident of san francisco. i've been a member of the armed forces over 18 years and if upper here 5 years ago me and my team won the i love sf water competition we wanted to promote easy ways for people to conserve water i'm here as a grassroots and resident to promote for consumption of san francisco water. i know it sounds strange but we'll all agree on water is life.

and it's a human right. people throughout the world live throughout cities like san francisco need save cleaning drinking you water but throughout countries the water has turned into a highly profitable business it's sold in the form of plastic bottled water. this consumption trend is accelerated from 20 and empty that plastic water bottles file our water resources. we know it takes a huge amount of water and we all agree this consumption model it extremely wasteful and unsustainable if san francisco wants to continue to be a leader for our generation and future

generations we have to phase out plastic water bottle we passed a law banding the plastic water sales from all public buildings how this alone will do little to go change consumers behavior people buy bottled water in plastic because it's little weight. with is we have a solution we used to use in the past called drinking fountains the only long time solution is to invest like new york and boston and san jose have realized this and building more drinking fountains we can't do this with 10 or 20 drinking fountains by 0 one thousand might.

ultimately drinking fountains should be prevalent and they know the water is safe and tastes good soon they won't think about buying bottled water i realize oh, done >> go ahead and finish. >> i realize it won't be easy there's high-up front costs and reoccurring maintenance costs by with sf leadership we can get this done san francisco residents want and deserve this our grassroots organization will support you in that my way we can to make this happen. >> thank you, sir for coming. >> your services. next card is john m. kelly. good afternoon >> good afternoon, commissioners. my name is john kelly i'm a

native san franciscan and democratic and a member of the sierra club, however, today, i speak four myself today thank you for your service. i have come to speak about your agrees ground water supply project you know because you approved the project it was an historic decision because for the first time after 80 almost 80 years ground water will be mixture in to san francisco's high quality hetch hetchy water. this is decision t is going forward whether the drought conditions exist or not your spooilz our agency is not proud of this decision there's been have little publicity about it and very few san franciscans

know it ground water is subterranean and a decision to insert ground water into our legendary hetch hetchy you high quality drinking water shouldn't, subterranean i ask the commission immediately send notice to all san francisco residents informing them of your historic decision to change the composition and quality of our drinking water let the sunshine in commissioners. i have a letter i've written to the commission i will request that it be made part of our record >> it will thank you, very much. mr. kelly for being here today. any other speakers on general public comment. seeing none, general public comment is closed. . madam secretary next item >> item 5 communications.

>> commissioners on the communications. commissioner moran >> thank you, my apologizes for being late. on the visual interject piloting program there was nothing in the item that mentioned the program and it's final come back for puc approval. it's my absorption and wish it will be required and my desire to have it brought back >> commissioners. if there's no objection that will be the order. any other items on communications commissioners? seeing none, i'll call for public school public comment on existence my public comment

madam secretary >> other commission business. >> commissioners. just one item at the attraction we'll have the commission think the environment madam secretary oh, call for public comment seeing none, madam secretary next item >> the report of the general manager. >> first item i'm doing i'd like tooz give an update on the water supply steve ricky pursue. >> the general manager if i could have the slides this is a regular update on our water supply conditions here at the puc our total reservoir storage is 3 hundred and 6 of architects

the water bank we talked about is working for us in terms of having the supply the precipitation at hetch hetchy is normal we don't expect any more water this junior year. the demand response is variable for the 10 percent reductions. this table shows the current reservoir storage the two are hetch hetchy is almost 91 percent at the capacity which is a again thing the reason it is so high we have served the needs of the turlock with the water banks you see 42 percent of maximum capacity it's working the way it should with hetch hetchy as normal we're not out of the drought, however.

this is the precipitation chart i've shown you see the 2014 level is approaching the 2007 level closely and the snowpack is gone for the year it's running off into our reservoirs. the delivery slide the green diamonds that show the level of delivery continues to be variable it drops once again and pops back up with when the weather warms up this is our delivery to the whole customers to reconsider my different message to the folks out there. the control board is considering issuing occur contaminate nos to the water right holders they are walking up to that if the water board issues