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every day and so the evaluation piece is a huge part of it. but it is also, you know, really changing the way, these incidents are responded to, and that, you know, that takes as i mentioned before a cultural shift or we will call it an institutional change and the coalition of homelessness and that takes a lot of work and it takes a lot of leadership and so the leadership from the commissioner and from the chief to really kind of changing the way, but also it has to change in writing, it has to change in the general orders and how things are responded to and whether the command and control was used and whether the elevated use of force was used and all of these different elements and so it is really a fundamental change, and we are heading into the amazing process, i think, to see and how much success and i think that you know, in the commander presented the statistics on the program, i think that everybody can feel really, proud and good about how far things have come
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along. but we have quite a ways to go and we have a huge mental health crisis in san francisco and like it or not, police officers are very often the first responders to those crisis, and it is often times the very first interaction with the system that someone is having in psychiatric crieses and sets the stage for that lifetime and that person and help to relate to the recovery and further traumatized and whether they are developing trust in the system and they are engaging in the treatment and so the police officers do really play an absolutely critical role in that and, and so that kind of leads me back to the whole part of us all working together and making sure that our system is not failing people in the psychiatric crisis and is really responsive and that the folks are able to engage in service and get to a place where they are more healthy and they no longer have the crisis that they were feeling.
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so, any way, thanks again and i really appreciate everybody's leadership on this, thank you. >> >> you know, i just want to say, and end on this note, san francisco's program is getting attention as far as the united states congress. our experiences are are read into the congressional record and while the senate judiciary committee was weighing the mental conditions and we have three pages of stuff that i would say, and it is listed under the table of content and however i did not check it carefully enough and so i will e-mail it to you and so i would say that a third of the material was out of the san francisco experience chatting up the cit and the collaboration, and effort and so here we are, you know, having state input and also at the national level and i think
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that is good recognition for the department, and for the chief's vision and that i think it started with, you know the response to, you know, armed folks that only presented a risk to themself and a slow down and in this piece, about, the folks in crisis who are not armed, any way. and any questions that you may have, and i will answer. >> what the commander said, and one will recognize that the commander and some colleagues of mine in new york and new york state put in touch with me and as a result of talking with me and the commander and new york state actually put in the funding for the cit and several jurisdictions in the state and which is impressive and i want to thank him for that and also for his testimony and the judiciary committee which we were able to get a lot of work on the cit and ended up. >> and but, you know what? he did not. >> he will not believe you any way.
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>> he didn't ask me tonight. >> yes. and i do want to join in the refrain and which, did not thank him either, and i think that you know, as the chief, we were, we were moving but we were not moving fast enough. and then being able to ask with the commander to take it on knowing, how good he is organizationally and can really bring the groups together and this is a home run and i think that you are, and you are able assistant, and it is your, and it is just a great job and i think that if we never, ever, ever, harm anybody in a crisis that will work for me and the san francisco police department. >> yes, so, thank you, chief. and thank you, for the presentation, commander and the mental health working group. we really wanted the
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presentation as a representative from the police commission to reflect that it is a working group and the issues are being worked on and that the power of sitting around a table and talking about these issues with the experts on both sides and identifying what works, is absolutely consistent with the san francisco values and so it is so important for all of you to be here and so i want to thank you and invite denny ing up to share his story and i want to start off by saying, i met vinny and learned of the tragic loss of his sister, while i was a san francisco police commissioner and i was so struck by his commitment to identifying anything that he could do and use in himself and in his network to make something good out of an
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unspeakable tragedy. i invite all of you to consider what he has to say in the spirit of why we do this work and what the stakes are, and no matter how well, we are doing, that there is always more to learn. so, vinny. >> thank you. >> so, my name is vinny and i am 12-year resident of san francisco. i have the great honor of
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telling you two stories today, thank you. >> my parents and my three sisters are in san francisco. as refugees who survived camboida and so this city has been a special place to me, and i am really encouraged by the progress that you all are supporting. in this program, and i am here to tell you that even though the ultimate recovery of my sister's life is not within reach, that this work will directly and positively impact the recovery of countless numbers of our community. people who self-identify as
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consumers all have a very unique and life long struggle. to try to find a way to integrate their conditions into their daily lives. i am fortunate that i don't identify as a consumer, but i also identify as a family member of someone who struggled with posttraumatic stress. for a good portion of her life. my sister jasmin, was in treatment for over a decade, due to an incident in her own personal life, her posttraumatic stress was activated in the early 90s, and she attended a community clinic for over a decade. she was a known patient at this facility. and a volunteer. and she had a psychotic episode
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at this mental health facility down in southern california, and the emergency dispatch called this place from the clinic to the local station where two officers were dispatched. and this is an agency that does not have a formal crisis intervention training program or any sort of training program that deploy deputies that are specifically trained to approach a situation with known or with individuals who have known mental conditions. and within eight minutes of the caulk placed my sister was shot dead and this was within eleven seconds of four deputies entering the known mental health facility and within eleven seconds two tasers were deployed and two bullets were fired. and so, i want you to know,
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that despite this, in my immediate circle, and you know, i am grateful to you commissioner loftus and to you commissioner for inviting me to share this story with the entire submission tonight that the lesson that you are learning here is that this is just a first step. and i am one of too many stories. and that this work will hopefully contribute to the greater likelihood that the members of our community that will be profiled because this is an illness that is invisible and it is agnostic and it hits every dem graphic and every orientation and every race, and
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it also impacts our officers, no officer wants to live the stain of a death on their watch, i don't think. and anything that we can do to contribute to their well-being, and the well-being and safety of all individuals in all interactions, with law enforcement will create a stronger, more vibrant community where we can feel proud and assured that our children will grow up and also feel safe in their interactions with law enforcement. so i thank you for your diligence and i strongly encourage you to continue to support the efforts and to really consider that this is just one team in a league that you have colleagues at the department of public health who work so hard every day with the mobile crisis unit that there
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is room for engagement and it is not really necessarily the funding it is just about communication and that there is an opportunity to support interdepartment relationships. and so that we can shift the burden of first responses away from the potential lethal out come that my sister encountered two years ago. so i thank you for your time, and i sincerely appreciate the work that the commission has supported with this working group. thank you. >> thank you. >> so, i just, i will just jump in, i think that this issue takes so much bravery on the sides of consumers and on the sides of families to take it out of something that we can't
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talk about. and while it is something that police officers understand, often because they are dealing with the police in crisis, i think the bravery of all of the people on the mental health working group and i had to say that i had a recollection and it was back when we had the public hearing and any person who is coming forward and talk about the improvements that were made, and so we had that community conversation about what more we needed to do and i recall that really the chief doubled down on the efforts on what they were saying and it is incredible to see the progress and i just can't give enough credit to the chief for taking an opportunity where there is this thing and he wants to, and we are not going to get the tasers and i think that it is exceptional that in that moment, he is trying to and we are trying to figure out even if we have 2.6 percent of use of force with mental illness
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and that is too many and that is too much and what can we do for those instances that we recognize that we don't want to create the tragedies for the community or for the officers and really chief, i am just reminded for what you are doing when no one is watching and that is so exceptional and my colleagues that wrote this resolution before i was a member of the body, hearing one meeting it was clear to me that they needed to come and tell you about the progress, because i can't say enough, you say the departmental order, and the departmental bulletin to the public and that got snuck in there.
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it is important to see the models that works and it really works, because of everyone's commitment to the top and i am sure that people might have questions but i just wanted to open it up to the mic, colleagues. >> i just wanted to follow up and thank the commander and lieutenant, and also the community working group that has worked so hard on this, and it is obviously a success when everybody is praising the police for what they have done and really i want to thank vinny and i know that i met with him and he shared a story with me, and i want to acknowledge his bravery and i think that it really puts a human face on the numbers that we are looking at and saying why this is so important to do and i am absolutely committed to it and i had one question and that i knew, and jennifer, and it is great that we have trained so many officers in the 40 hour training but what we are doing with the other officers and is there something
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that we can do so those that have not gone through, they can have the exposure to the ideas and some, even though the shorter training or the roll call or the videos or something that we can do to expose them to the idea? and what can we do and i have heard a number of 25 percent of the officers, and all of the officers trained, and so where are we in terms of that number? >> we answer in terms of the basic training, of the officers get, and coming through the academy, includes these topics. and you know, i don't have the learning to tell you how many hours exactly, but it is a significant part of their academy, curriculum and, then there are updates, and training bulletins that come out, training options but yes, the answer is yes, there are opportunities to take the notions of, and of the cit, and the crisis intervention team and just spread that a little wider and i think that the chief's commitment, so far has been four class as a year and
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that is 120 folks for training a year, coming through, if we could get a fifth one in there we will. and yeah, i think that it presents an opportunity, but i think that the cit pin, that is worn by these officers is carrying a strong message around the department now that it is something special and important and we sent this bulletin and it was distributed to every officer in the department and it is an important document and we sent it out specifically to the cit members, and although, at least a half a dozen officers will not be back thanking me for some of them and two, for asking for the input, but i do think that we are presented with opportunities for shorter trainings and i think that the, you know, the refresher that we are talking about for the cit officers and more training and maybe we can take the pieces of that and make it into the roll call training and i think that all of those things are doable
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and particularly the culture shifts under the chief's leadership about slowing down and deescalating and things that are novel a few years ago and sort of well received and natural training items, and so, i think that we are there, and i will certainly put it on the agenda. >> and i think that it is important too, that the department bulletin that went out in may 2011 is binding on all of the officers to create the time and distance and to call for a sergeant and for help that is to be the floor and that is the minimum and we want to get the officers interested in the sharp looking pin and the officers covet nice stuff on their uniforms and they all want the pin. >> i want to thank the
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commissioners who brought it here today and i want to thank you so much for speaking and our hearts go out to you. and this, the tragedy that can happen to anybody, and we do appreciate your courage, and the efforts and i also want to thank commissioner chan and this was one of her babies and she stuck with it and i remember after the first year of finally deciding some type of training and curriculum, one of the questions was, how do we incentivize the officers and get them asked interested and there was a lot of discussion in how to do that and just by putting the program in and having the officers enroll that is an incentive of itself and that is wonderful to hear that they are understanding how important it is, and especially as the first responders and some of the tragedies that have occured during my time on the commission and that they understand the importance of it and they want to be a part tf is really exciting to hear and i want to commend you and
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everyone else that is inspiring them to do that. i also want to recognize since we are the first responders and it is the first step as you say and the training, has come a long way, and the 801 codes, are significant, because that was one of the initiatives, and the cit, and the officer on the scene, asap and that there is a code now. and there is a code, and there are questions that follow up for the officer safety and regarding the questions to be asked, in terms of sending out an officer on this particular code, and it is also really well thought out, and something that was really needed and i know that there is a lot more to go but you guys have made tremendous efforts and tremendous steps, forward. and in this program, and it is just commendable all the way around, but it is again, going back to the first step we do appreciate you know that there is funding to be and that is necessary, and there is programs that are necessary, and there is just still a need
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for the mentally challenged individuals to get the help that they need. but i do, and i am proud to sit on this commission and be a part of the cit program and i don't have a question, per se, other than what else are you going to do and what else is on the horizon and because this is all exciting and it is moving forward and i hope that we all stay together and hope that we will make a difference and continue to make a difference. >> and could i get, and could i get your comment about commissioner chan, and having set through a lot of meetings, with her, she was quite good at keeping the agenda moving. and so i found out, and i came in one day and something that i wanted to accomplish had not happened. and she said, can you do it by next time? and i said, yes. well, maybe it would have been a time or two later before i got to it and there are a lot of those points where she punctuated the discussion with let's move this along. and so that was good. and i also think that in terms
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of resources, you know, consistent with the notion that the solution to many of these problems, reside in the community, and not in the police department is the partnership, that none of us at the table are putting stuff off on other people to do. and so, we have certain resources that we have in the department and the mental health association and the certain resources and nahmi does too and we are way away from that model of things are outsourced to the police department and we are sharing what we have and putting people together and that is one of the secrets to success to the program. >> you will have to keep that going, because commissioner chan was a task master. >> commissioner loftus has called me a few times this week and i don't think that we will have a problem. >> don't worry about that, we got it. >> thank you. >> but she is missed. >> marshal? >> it is great to see the
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progress and one thing about this is this is something, and we all thought that it was a great idea. i mean that we all thought that it was a great idea, and not all of the great ideas always work and this was not necessarily something that was, and i really don't know how much, you know, the department had here on this and i know that particularly commissioner chan had done a lot of this research and brought it to the department and bring something from the outside that can always resonate. and so it is just great to see what looked like a good idea to everybody and made sort of common sense to everybody, to get not only the collaborative work, but to get, you know, the department and from the top to the bottom buy into it and that is probably the most satisfying thing about this whole thing, and you know, something active and it is really good and made the common sense, exactly and being embraced and so i am looking forward to, and i don't
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know about the, and so you are evaluating it, but is this part of it and out of the letter to you and i don't know if it has to do with the letter of approval. and i don't know of any, and i mean that i went to write too and i know what he is struggling with, and how does this evaluation piece here and i was curious and this is just an idea that is being proposed or... >> it is just, and it is interesting, and he has gone to the other departments and he has not gotten through the bullet proof glass in the lobby and he has joined us in the working group and so that will present an opportunity and i think that he should treat the letter so, i guess that his effort in letting him know what you would like to do and there are certainly, internal issues about the privacy and about the structure of his study that are presenting these complexities but i thought that in coming here tonight and talking to you about what he would like to do is a good idea and his participation in the working group brings a real needed component of, it has not really
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been studied, and in because the data like our data before the old system, and it suffered through the deposition codes you could not pull the out come and nuance and now we are presented with the data and so we are data rich in researcher poor, and so, i think that it is a discussion at our next meeting and certainly for the chief, and to, you know, see how this might fit into the program. >> yeah, well, certainly. >> yeah. and i am not necessarily, advocating for a fellow write, but it does not hurt. but at some point, and some evaluation will come out of this and you are looking at that and because any hard data that you come up is only going tobutress everything that is going on, probably ours will be
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a model and it be only be amplified with some of that data. >> and many of the cities that you are doing it by force and i found through the country that they were required to do it and they have relegated it to portions of the organizational chart that the city back east had it next to the boston pound and the dog unit and there were three officers assigned to cit. and we... i kind of forget the point that i wanted to make as i was thinking about jessy over here and i am just inspired by this young man has big thoughts about what he would like to do and he told me that he was nervous coming in here tonight and so he said, don't feel the pressure and they will just arain you when you get up there and just wants to come in and show you what he was interested in doing. >> i will jump in here and just being a member of crisis
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intervention group and the least that we can do is do the best that we could to get this information, so for the people listing the four points, right? do the cit trained officers use the less force like the bean bag shot gun and do they initiate the future transmissions that the officers initiated fewer, 5150, psych holds and offer more referrals to the mental health programs and we are going to figure out a way to convey the status for you, and then, on the promise that you will come back and deliver that to the commission where you are finished with your dissertation. >> and try to get it punished. >> you can invite us to your graduation. >> two years in the making. >> thanks. >> you know before we wrap up, i would like to say, again, thank you to the commander, but certainly, thank you to the working group because there is no way, that this gets done and, to vinny in the back
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there, we are trying to get this information together, and get it out to as many law enforcement agencies as the commander said that they looked at it back east and so maybe, like you said we can't bring your sister back but the level that the brother might get it out, nationally and maybe it does not happen again. >> and mr. turm an. i just wanted to ask the chief, i mean it happened, and we have already done that and so i have nothing more to say, that the last commission and is added and so thank you very much. >> and i agree, i just want to thank everybody for their leadership. >> everybody. >> and as the commissioner dejesus said, you will be part of this commission on many occasions and this is one of them and i am very proud, of our ability to work with the community and do something different, i thank you for all of the work that you do out there and everybody here, and vinny you are a leader and thank you for your courage
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today. and you know, corea and lieutenant and i could brag about this department, both of those men from our department presented and are not just police officers, they are both lawyers and one is a graduate student getting his phd right now. and they are proud there and thank you, thank you very much. and you know, i know when this first started i didn't think that it would come this far and it really has, and so i am really impressed. thank you. >> we will call the next line item 2 b. >> 2 b, occ. director's report, discussion, and review of recent activities and the presentation of the occ statistical reports and summary of cases received in may, 2014, mediation in may of 2014 and adjudication of sustained complaints in may of 2014 and companion reports
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>> good evening. >> good evening president mazzucco and you have a written report in your packet this evening, and some of the case statistics and mediations and adjudications in may and so tonight we will give you a snapshot of our statistics as of today, and a report on some recent activities and a summary of the may adjudications. and in 2014, to date, the occ has opened, 329 cases compared to 309 cases as of june 11, 2013, this is a nine percent increase in cases filed. and as of june 11th, 2013, the occ had 305 pending cases, but the four vacantcies, in the
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