>> thank you, next speaker. >> hello, my name is ed dunn and the executive director who operate the center of 2020 market street and i was the director of the center that has been talked about today as well and i have been working in the recycling since the 70s. and i want to remind, the board, today, that this is not the first time that the city has picked up this issue. and in fact, the market street recycling center, and the wall that the department of the environment referred to earlier and the landscaping and the current form of the market street, recycling center is actually the result of a resolution of the board of supervisors passed in the mid 1990s, when safeway was trying to evict the centers at that point. and it is great to be talking about how to expand the network, and it is great to be talking about bringing in the other stores so that we can get more coverage across the city. but, the crisis is happening right now. and the market street recycling center will close in a couple

of weeks and unless the action is taken. but if the history, will repeat itself, the board of supervisors will pass the resolution, like it did, in the mid 90s. and it will pass it unanimously and it will urge safeway to keep all of the recycling centers open including the market street recycling center, this is critical, to allow us that time to get to the stake holder group together and to try to come up with the new solutions. and it is also critical public safety issue, there is going to be 300, pedestrian trips primarily, across the market street, now, and through south of market and maybe over to the bay shore and the industrial zoned parts of town searching for a place to recycle and last summer we had a recycler killed when they were taking the recycling on a bike, and that is going to happen more and i hate to sound alarmist but it is obvious that it is going to happen and i urge the board to take a look atthies you and pass a resolution urging safeway to keep market street open. >> thank you mr. dunn.

>> next speaker? >> hi, thank you for holding this hearing, jennifer, the director of the coalition on homelessness. we love, recycling. and what we need to do a little more, is spread that love, to recyclers, and no more love to the recyclers and we are here, speaking as the coalition on homelessness and not because homeless people are the majority of the people who are recycling it, they are actually the minority, but, they are the ones who have been demonized and used as a reason and scapegoating for closing down these different recycling centers. and you know that we need to talk about who is recycling, and every time that someone buys a beverage they pay a nickel, well if you put that in your curb side, container you don't get that back. and you know, most tenants don't pay their own garbage the

land lords do, when we look at who is recycling, it is diverse and represents a cross section of san francisco and you know that you have elders who are trying to contribute to the household income who recycle. and the children who are from families that don't have the economic means to say buy a used play station and so the kids will recycle to save up the money. and you have the parents recycling, and you have the people from all different levels but a lot of folks who are low income, that really rely on the additional income in order to make the ends people and when we talk about in san francisco, the affordability crisis that the folks are facing and this is becoming more and more crid cal that the folks have those means to have additional income. and for the people who are recycling regularly and that is their own source of income they are working hard at it and working 7 hours a day and,

making very little money. and we should be recognizing respecting and thanking them. so we are calling for more tore um on the closing of recycling centers. >> thank you. >> and the coalition for building this coalition to save the recycling centers. >> thank you. >> tess well born, district five action and as i know the recycling centers are aproven and successful way to increase recycling and help the city reach its zero waste goals. one reason that people say that we should stop is that there are a few bad actors that is a good reason to not having laws altogether. and so, let's not go there. i do think that there is an immediate crisis, so what can we do right now, as well as follow up with the doe's ideas, and one is fix the tops of the city trash cans, that are missing their magnets. and two, the city should be

lobbying in sacramento to increase the penalties on the super markets that discontinues in recycling center, and the city should be looking at sighting recycling centers on city-owned land in the under served areas and also look testify opportunity to put recycling centers in to community benefit agreement. and recycling centers and other recycling opportunities. thank you. >> thank you, so much for the great suggestions, next speaker? >> hi, my name is ed white man and i live on but can no one street across from the recycling center and i was there before it came and i was here at the hearing when it came up. and just to support how well they run the center there and there are no problems in terms of people loitering there and no drugs there and it is an area of the people and the crews of young people and that hang out and not to go there and this weekend alone, a new condo on the street twice called the police on saturday

and sunday to remove the people who are drinking on their area and they know not to go where the recycling center is. and another issue is that if there recycling center is closed you will not have the people disappear, they are just the recycling that show up on the street on market street and in the back of the safeway parking lot and they will increase, and there at night and no control over that regulation over that and they will fill that gap and we will have more problems in the area with the recycling closed than if you keep it open. and i like the idea of our centers and having it spread out further in the city but right now until something is done i think that it is a moratorium to keep it open for right now. >> thank you. >> next speaker. >> hello. ads a worker i want to say that we need our jobs and we are unlikely to find other employment, frankly, and it is

over in the institution and it is ovallering a decent second chance of what the employment wouldn't have actually. we are the only located by back by assisting the handicapped and replacing the vending machines do not and are frequently out of service and also, curb side does not refund returned deposits, only scrap value of the garbage, grill, i believe. >> we need happy customers there is another way to go. and the community and police, help us, let us know who is doing wrong and we will not serve them. and recology help us and make your containers less easy to theft. give us a breaking mechanism on them so that they can't be so easily rolled. clearly from the point of view of 2020 market, urban blight and public nuisance will get

worse, not better, and if the cr closes we really do a lot to clean it up and maintain order. thank you. >> thank you, sir. >> sure. >> thank you. >> next speaker. >> good afternoon, my name is david and i am the recyclinger and i am unemploy able because of my disabilities and i need this place to stay open and close to home i can't walk but about eight blocks at a time. and i can't afford i am on a limited income, and i need the help that they offer. and they do a great job at keeping the place clean, and there is no drinking there. and they come out and they pick up the trash around the area, and they sweep, and they really do an outstanding job for our community. and i like to see them stay open.

that is all, thank you. >> thank you. >> i am going to call several other names. marian, from the arab gross reer a association, and amanda smith, and lisa alatori and gary moriso, and ore, sisa. >> good morning, and good afternoon and my name is john and i am the former president of next cycle, recycling and now with the replanet and they recently merged forming the largest and convenient zoned operation in california with over 700 convenient zones operations convenience as you heard today is the hallmark of the program whereas every california consumer has the right to receive the department returned on the crv beverage containsers over the next year we are foesed to close six of 12 neighborhood convenience

sites, on annualized basis the impact of the six closures and 108 transactions will not occur, and san franciscans who rely on the 1.8 million in crv that is rightfully their by law and find its way back in the sf economy will be impacted and additional and serious casualty is the fact that 14 skilled employees with benefits, lost their jobs. we would be and we would be supportive of a moratorium that will seize the closures of the recycling centers in san francisco before the solution is reached and we are open to work with our environment. and i can answer any of the questions on the rv industry later and now. >> could i just ask you, the six closures of your centers what period of time or what years? >> up until last week, when it closed it is a one-year cycle. >> when did the first of the

six close? >> our first closure was the site on folsom street, lucky store and it has been snow balling since then, and again. >> when did that site close? >> i think that it is just about this time last year. >> i don't have the exact date. >> there is an impact on the existing sites that we have. >> those closures will apply a crowd is now over at noriaga which we are too much business. >> thank you so much. >> next speaker. >> hello, my name is thomas ray and i am a native san franciscan, and recycling in san francisco, is heading towards the disaster for the low income people and small store owners in san francisco. fortunately within the short time, the small store owners throughout san francisco will soon be required to redeem the beverage containers or face a fine of 100 dollars a day if

they do not which most store owners cannot afford and the suggestion by some city officials that are recycling of the small stores can work, is not realistic and it will create many hardships for small store owners and most space and store beverage containers possible help the safety violation and no time to hand over the business of recycling and traveling to a recycling center to redeem their containers and if they do not, and also, if they have over 50 containers, they will not even get the full value of what they get out, and they paid out. because it will be calculated by weight. and on the parking lot near church and market is closed over 100 additional small store owners will be required to redeem as well. and redealing beverage

containers at small stores, would frustrate both the small store owners and the recycling because it will not work, ask me small store owner. small stores are not recycling centers. and i encourage the san francisco board of supervisors to pass a resolution, for a moratorium on the close sure of any current community cycling centers at large, super markets and this will give the time for the city officials and the community to work out a real solution. to this recycling disaster, that has been happening in san francisco. >> thank you so much. >> next speaker. >> i will call a few more names. >> david mangum. lurela harris and sidney clemons. >> thank you for holding this hearing, i am a proud volunteer of the coalition on homelessness here in san francisco, and i wanted to

speak specifically regarding the church and market safeway, because, it seems like more and more, there is stories and information getting out, about from td opposition, to these recycling centers about how unpleasant it is to watch some of the recyclers who go there and someone who has out reached to that location numerous times i want to offer a perspective from the other end of the arena because the level of the respect achieved between the staff and the recyclers is something that i believe should be recognized and the staff stream lines and they interact and they approach the center with the items tidy, organized and ready to go. and more over, the recyclers, specifically regarding them, i have yet to see them litter, the area, with the waste of any kind, nor have i witnessed any type of behavior that led me to understand that they are a nuance or a debt triment to the

community. >> thank you. >> next speaker. >> there is a perfect solution for a large recycling center. in the farmer's market on alamany and it is the farmer's market on saturday and on sunday it is a flee market. monday through friday, it is not occupied, there is plenty of parking and there is at least three different buses that serve the area. it is paved and not in someone's next door neighbor and if this should be used i

would like you to please, not start it at 6:00 in the morning, saturday and sunday, at 6:00 in the morning is enough. we get a lot of traffic there, and a lot of, and it is very close to where the freeways cross and it is easy to get to if you are driving and i want to see it happen. thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker. >> and david, it is your call. >> thank you, supervisors for holding this conversation. my name is mary and i am a board member with the arab grocer association and i am just here to express a couple of concerns on behalf of san francisco corner stores and grocers. for my family's corner store, for example pays about $1400 a month, for recycling.

and $90 for compost fees and we have limited waste for that but we need to pay that fee. despite of our waste. and that is formally what we do for the recycling and informally, we allow the people to come by and collect boxes, and bottles, and food. from our store. and as a director of the office of small business, she mentioned these buy backs on the grocers also bring back a issue of capacity there is no space and we don't have the space for it and in addition, there is serious health hazards to expect us to kind of horde the bottles and one more thing that i don't know if it has been brought up yet and kind of the observation from the neighborhood in the south of market district, is increased

deregulation on the city's behalf, there is trucks that go around, and they exchange boltses bottles for drugs and that is an increased deregulation of nearby collecting locations for bottles. again, thank you for holding this conversation. and that is all that i have to say. >> thank you, for the leadership on the arab american grossers association as well. >> next speaker? >> hi, supervisors, thanks again for this important conversation for taking up this hot topic. as many people have pointed out this topic has many layers, from the sustainability of our city, literally, from a environmental perspective to the human impact, that this critical economic life line will have for many of our lower income and fixed income residents in san francisco, who rely on the hard work of recycling to make ends meet

every month. and it really would, and it was an interesting opportunity with this topic and why the coalition of the homelessness is taken up and because is does create an opportunity for us to talk about what is the collective value as a city and where are we putting our political resources specifically, are we willing to tell luxury condo owners that recycling is more important, actually than their property value? are we willing to ask corporations like safeway and whole foods and trader joes to have specific responsibility that they are making millions of dollars off of every year and so while the recycling does not necessarily impact homeless people, we at the coalition on homelessness feel strongly that this is an opportunity to turn the tide on how we are flexioning our political muscle in the city and this is an entertational issue every country has people who are garbage pickers and recycling

and there are often things like recycling unions that exist and there are organized days of celebration for recycling in other country and our country, we are responding by limiting resources forcing it to go underground and relegating it to the industrial neighborhood and so i really appreciate that the topic is being taken up and hopeful that the results will be a turn of the tides for our city. >> thank you. >> next speaker. >> hello, i'm gary morrison and i am here to just resonate with some of the previous speakers, but the message that i would like to bring is of high importance, and the people that recycle are not criminals, she does not look dangerous to me, that lady. so, with that being said, they should not also have to travel large distances to recycle, and recyclers on the other hand, we are an endangered species we need to be protected. and i asked all of you to

resonate a message to protect the people that need to recycle and us who are trying to conduct the business and try to cut through the red tape. and allow us to open the centers instead of continually closing them. thank you very much for your time. >> thank you. >> next speaker? i would like to speak on the next issue would you recycle my card, please? >> okay. >> i don't know about the three of you guys, but i was shocked to hear the studies from miss bue and i appreciate the state department being here to talk about the issue of these curb side recycling.

and the mayor's office has told me that we don't need recycle centers any more. because san francisco has the highest curb side record. so any way, 89 percent. and it is the highest in the state. but what we have heard today is that curb side does not do the job. 8 percent is what she said, this gentleman said ten percent and so this is a myth that this administration has put out there. and i am glad that it has been busted today. and the idea that the closing of the market street center is going to raise unserved areas from 41 to 50 percent has created an urgency, and that is this, in my humble opinion, in the health and the safety urgency in the city. ed dunn said that someone has already been killed and we hear from this lady from the arab

american social saying there are drugs, and the people can't get it from the recycling center so they sell it to the gypsy fleets and it is a crime issue and a heling issue and the people are going to end up dead are in the hospital. i would ask you to call the ceo of safeway or call the mayor's office. and have him call the ceo of safeway and say, let's put a reprieve on the closure of market street center for one year until this fine association of people today can solve this problem. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> next speaker. >> my name is scott nelson and i am a recycling advocate and i want to speak on the impact on the small businesses, scott weiner says that he supports the dispersed model of

recycling for the future but we have that right now, with the closing of the recycling centers so far, there are 222 small businesses that have been impacted, cal recycling has required them all to offer the in-store redemption and if the san francisco community recycling closes there will be 340 small businesses in san francisco, will be required to redeem, right now, and as it turns out right now, cal recycle has acquired, 104 stores to redeem in the store and they have filed affidavits with the state of california saying that they are redeeming in the store, and so anyone can now go to these 104 stores and make and recycling there, and i don't think that is what the city wants to happen i don't think that the city wants 340 recycling centers, i think that the city should instead, allow san francisco community recycling to say open and support some of the newer recycling centers. thank you. >> thank you.

>> is there anyone else that would like to speak from the public? >> thank you so much for the great testimony. and i will hand it back over to our chairman, david campos. >> thank you, thank you very much. supervisor, mar >> thank you to all who have spoken and all of the city agencis that have presented and welcome to the head of the environment and, to the state, which i think, has really shed a great deal of light on this issue, and i certainly have learned a lot and that is the positive and the negative is that we are doing poorly and i think that what supervisor mar has done in calling this hearing is that he has set the record straight on what needs

to be done and closing the recycling centers and it is the very last thing that you want to do. and all of the districts said that comprised the districts should, bear the responsibility of equally and equitablely and i think that we need to figure out a city-wide strategy so that there is, an equitable distribution of recycling center to meet the mandates of the state law and also because at the end of the day, we have to make it convenient and i do think that the concerns that these businesses have also raised and i appreciate the merchant's association and the leadership that they have provided and also are important and i don't know what the next steps are, supervisors, and i know that this is just a hearing, request, but my hope is that it will be a course of

action, that comes out of this presentation. >> and yeah, thank you, chair campos, and i just wanted to thank everyone for coming out and speaking on your patience as well and our office will follow up with the department of the environment and thanks to all of the staff that are here and your leadership and i want to thank, personally ed dunn and kevin drew and others that have given us the history of how san francisco should be and should maintain its leadership role as a champion of the recycling and the environment and right now, as i said before it is an embarrassment for our city and so the leadership of the department of the environment and the community that is here and sets it by the critical and including the small businesses as well, and i wanted to also say that i think that the coalition on homelessness and the recyclers who are here have helped to humanize the people that play a role with the new green jobs and the recycling sector of of our economy and how important it is for

everyone and i really thank the coalition to help to fight for more sustain able future and green jobs and also, our small businesses as well, and great ideases came out from a lot of the testimony as well, and so, my office will follow up, also, with a resolution, drafted as soon as humanly possible on a moratorium on the evictions of the recycling centers and to turn this around so that we can continue to claim to be a city that believes in a sustain able future for everyone, and so thank you for the chair and i look forward to meeting and convening with everyone to follow up as quickly as possible. >> thank you. >> supervisor, would you like to have this item filed, or continued? >> i think that filed. >> i move to file. >> if we could have a motion. >> a motion for file without objection, we will file this item. >> thank you, very much. >> and again, thank you to everyone for your patience and about this hearing. mr. clerk, could you call the

next item? >> item four,hearing on the unmet needs of children and youth in san francisco with currently or previously incarcerated parent(s) and review the policies in place currently to ensure the unique needs of these children are being met. >> why don't we take a five-minute recess.

[break] >> okay guys, hello everyone, and i will need everyone's attention please. >> we are trying to get the hearing on this very important item started. as i understand