and coming up with legislation, you know, very seriously. and i think that supervisor mar's legislation, while there are some similarities, i think the differences are really kind of these large gaps between them and it really -- supervisor mar feels like it's really the intent is to really stifle larger businesses in san francisco, businesses from getting larger or larger businesses from coming here. we think there needs to be a balance. we think that neighborhood commercial corridors thrive when this is a balance of all kinds of retail, both large and small and local and national, that that's really what makes a sustainable and active and thriving commercial corridor. so, i think -- so, policies that exist really right out the gate, make sure you're not going to have the larger players in there when sometimes it is apt the larger players that can fill certain places,

we think that's a mistake. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> i received a few more speaker cards, mr. president. the next speaker is chris wright. >> welcome. ~ thank you. good afternoon, commissioners. my name is chris wright. i'm the executive director of the committee on jobs. i want to associate my remarks today with those made by dee-dee with the chamber. the chamber put together a working group of chamber members made up of a large spectrum of businesses and they had some [speaker not understood] consideration with the planning department with its report. and i think that's the report that was produced by the planning commission. it's something that should -- we should all consider and i want to thank you all for your careful look at both these proposals. there's one point, though, that i'd like to bring up that is contained in both supervisor mar's and the planning department's, and that is further restrictions on atms.

atms are in the community already. some communities are better served than others. will people go to atms, they get cash ~. they don't get cash to buy something on amazon. they get cash to buy something locally. i know in my neighborhood, supervisor mar's district, there are three or four businesses that i, that i shop at that do not take credit cards and they only take cash. so, please take that in consideration. there's already restrictions, restrictions on banks themselves self-, bump atms offer access to people, residents that will ease their access to financial services, including cash. and that's something i would ask that you consider. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> mika brown. >> and after that, if karema

pierce could be ready. thank you. >> welcome. ~ thank you. my name is mika brown as stated before. i am here to speak for myself, but also to speak for the elderly. my job is a home health aid, cna worker, so, i go into people's homes and i, you know, help them do like cleaning, grocery shop for them. my particular client at present, she loves to go out into the neighborhood. she loves to go to her local walgreens and pick up her own medicine. she loves to stop by and say hi to her neighbors. and i feel that if stores like, you know, her local walgreens wasn't there or her local cvs wasn't there, then where would she go? she already has a problem with mobility. so, the seniors, the main thing is quality of life for them and that would affect her quality of life. it would affect my job because, you know, instead of us doing it together, which she loves, i would have to do it, which i

don't mind doing it, but it's all about, you know, the client. and many times we don't think about our seniors in the community. we don't, we don't -- i mean everything is for kid, kid, kids, but what about, you know, the people that have lived longer than we have? ~ i think that that would -- if more of them could come here and speak for themselves, then they would do that. but, you know, a lot of them don't have that option. a lot of them don't have money to pay for people like me to come in and help them along with -- to do the thing that they want to do daily. a lot of them are shut in. so, i just need you guys to take into consideration that that would greatly affect our quality of life with them not being able to, you know, take a neighborhood walk and do their own shopping and picking up their own medications. a lot of them do use walgreens, use cvs to get their meds there

instead of having it delivered. everybody loves to get out and go for a walk, so, that's it. >> great, thank you. next speaker, please. >> following this speaker, the next speaker will be michelle grady. [speaker not understood]. i'm here to speak on behalf of myself and for the youth. i feel like the bigger stores provide jobs for the youth. i feel like now that it's summertime, we need these jobs and it keeps us occupied and out of trouble. we need jobs so that when we get older, we can, like, have days that are regulated, a workday and have work experience. in the mom and pop stores, we won't be able to get those opportunities and working with different kind of people because all types of people come to walgreens. everybody shops at safeway and it's just -- so that i'm not just with one group of people that i'm able to talk to whoever and be around different groups of peep. i feel like mom and pops, some

of those stores are just specifically for certain types of people when there's like targets and walgreens and stores that everybody shops at. i feel like it's more of a community thing to me, oriented, to be part of that. so, thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> that will be michelle grady. following ms. grady, we have bobby collins. good afternoon. to me it's about choice and access. i want the choice to spend my dollars in the community where i want to. i want to be able to support businesses that i want to support. one of the things for me is target, and i have the opportunity to witness them support a low-income neighborhood, come in, tear out the whole library, put in an amazing library and fill it with brand-new books. mom and pop businesses are not

always able to do things like that. forv me it's also about bigger stores being able to come in, providing better jobs, providing health benefits, and providing a living wage and helping to take the youth off the street, which gives them something to do. a lot of the times they can't find jobs. my daughter applied for the city of san francisco from the job program. while she did get an interview, too many youth to give job to all of them. we bring in bigger stores, we're able to provide these kids a place to go, a place to work, a play to earn an income, learn how to budget, learn how to save, and get prepared to be viable members of society. san francisco is a very difficult verse city and i'm just encouraging you guys to look at it and open our horizons for more diversity by bringing in bigger store. thank you. >> great, thank you. next speaker, please.

hello, my name is bobby. i'm here just speaking on behalf of myself in general, my thoughts, my ideas. i've been a san francisco resident basically all of my life. i moved out to merced a little bit after i turned 18. and my first job there was like at burger king. in merced, i don't know if any of you guys know it, it's a place where you walk around, there might be stores about 10 blocks away from you. currently, when i moved back to san francisco, i moved and the job market around is not walkable. so, thinking about senior citizens not being able to walk about their neighborhood and access that's correct what i found is in my current neighborhood we don't have that. doe have a walgreens, but i

wouldn't suggest seniors walk to it, hills might make it a little hard for them. and then you also have the different jobs that offer the firsthand experience for people my age. like i said, my first job was a burger king job. most people do start off working somewhere small whereas, okay, you're just out of high school. we'll offer you an opportunity to kind of gain a little bit of experience inside of whatever skill you won't go into in the future, but it's a start. so, a lot of these places will offer jobs to people that are young, people that don't have experience. they're all willing to take more of a risk on these people than mom and pop stores. granted sometimes you can get a job in mom and pop stores, but it's a goal or temping or auntie or grandma or grandpa working in the back the whole time. that's what makes it wonderful, you walk in grandma behind the

desk and grandpa hidv the store. that's wonderful. if they're not in the community for the family business, the only thing they're doing is taking money from the community and that's what they're doing. if they live there, perfect. more times they're not. they have somewhere else that they live. but if we're offering bigger businesses to take over the bigger spots that smaller businesses are not willing to take, then you're also willing -- they're also willing to take residents in that community and offer them jobs or people that are hungry that are in that community that are willing to walk or transport or bus or park or check on them. but they usually come in and take over and kind of -- >> you have 32nd. they usually come over, they come in and it helps the community. then more people are willing to go and apply for a job in their community, that they're willing to make out the spaces that are on that store front.

they are making it a little bit brighter, a little bit nicer whereas other people are struggling to invest and marketing. they already have that money. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> the next speaker card is for don saunders and then peter cohan after that. hello, my name is dawn saunders. i'm speaking on behalf of myself and the youth i work with at larkin street youth services. i work with homeless youth. and the last time i was here i talked about how target kind of opened the doors for a lot of our youth. we work with youth from ages 12 to 24. and when target came to the city and they were doing their, you know, hiring that day, like you get an interview and then you get hired.

i never saw my clients so motivated and have so much hope that they're going to get off the streets because they had access to jobs. mom and papa shops, i've never heard of mom and pop shops hiring on the spot in the community, especially youth. our homeless youth are so stigmatized in this city, like a lot of times people don't even give them the time of day. they have their own assumptions. but when a big businesslike target comes and gives them a chance, like that opens so many doors for them. so, i completely support this, yes. and another thing, having -- not just having more of the big businesses in the city, but where you put them is important to keep in mind because, you

know, i live in the bayview and the only place i have to shop is the food co, really, for groceries. and then there's liquor stores galore, but there's one walgreens that i can walk to, that's in walking distance. but i know if, you know, my grad ma, even my father would not want to walk to the walgreens from where it is, from where i live. so, having these businesses not just put, you know, downtown or in chinatown or, you know, the big tourist money maker places where everybody can go to, but for san franciscans, people from the bayview also, you know, want access to these things. i know i want access to these things. the closest safeway for me is to go where? where do i have to go to go to safeway? i think i go to the one near castro. it takes me an hour to get there and i live in the city, on the bus to get there.

that's ridiculous to me. but, yeah, so, if you could take that into consideration, that would be awesome. >> thank you. next speaker, please. good afternoon, commissioners. my name is peter cohen. and i was actually able to work on the formula retail controls ten years ago, 2004, and i think

~ ~ demonstrate there is a local need. to go through and be scrutinized around some of those comparisons with small businesses and come out the backside with something that really has a starting point of being wanted by the local community. if you look at where formula retail wants to go, it does not go into a lot of the communities which is the greatest need for jobs or services or retail diversity. they tend to go to places where there's already lots of money and where they can outcompete other business necessarition he. they are not big risk takers. if you're trying to encourage risk taking that goes to compelling business relationships, not whether they have a sea requirement. it is time to update some of the controls. a couple of quick things. concentration analysis is

really helpful. formula retailers often want to congregate locally. it is important to recognize whether that's tipping kind of the proper mix. an economic analysis is good. i would say to the chamber's point maybe businesses that are fewer than 20 outlets should be exempted from the economic analysis. one recognition they be a slightly different kind of financial backing than larger corporations. thank you. >> thank you. any other speakers? seeing none, public comment is closed. do we have questions? no questions? okay. i know two weeks ago we heard the planning department's proposal and this commission approved the planning department's proposal. and in this commission's opinion, you know, it keeps

formula retail in check and it actually in some ways strengthens it. in my opinion, in a very fair way. supervisor mar's legislation tightens what we currently have. we currently have a law on the books, prop g, and one proposal tightens controls but loosens it up on some ends and tightens it up and actually adds more categories. and then we have the one today which really tightens it up. and i wish supervisor mar was here to present. i like it when a supervisor -- something this important, i think the supervisor should be here to present for this. you know, personally, i support the planning department.

as one previous speaker had said, sick months went into that with a lot of data. in the 10 years since prop g, we were able to see what work, what doesn't work ~. there does need to be some tweaking. so, with that, i support the planning department's -- i cannot support, you know, supervisor mar's at this time, but i wish the two of you can get together and see if we can work out something. it would be better to go with one instead of two. so, that's just my opinion. any other commissioner comments? >> i have some comments. i was absent from our last meeting so i'll kind of just summarize. while i appreciate the effort and the time that supervisor mar and his staff has put into this issue, i do believe that the planning commission has conducted a very thorough due diligence, and a process that's

consistent with their expertise and their purview. i think that the proposal that they've presented is thorough. i think the methodology, the process, and the outcome are exactly what they're there to provide to us as both legislators and citizens of san francisco. so, i stand by the commission's support from the last meeting for the planning commission's proposal as it stands. >> commissioner ortiz. >> again, like previous meeting, i want to thank everybody because i know this is a very difficult topic. and it also make it hard for us as a commission, at least in my perspective, it's segmented. we get bits and piece he from the planning agency. i didn't a vote, but i agreed with most of it. it was well thought out and

planned. although i depth agree with it, it make it hard for us when it's hodgepodge. it's a very difficult issue as it is so i think we all need to come together and come up with one decisive legislation and make it easy for us and the residents of san francisco and the small businesses of san francisco. >> commissioner dwight. >> i also want to compliment the people who came out today to speak for public comment. it's so important for people in the community to come here in front of all of these commission meetings and express your points of view. you've raised some very interesting points today. you know, oftentimes we think -- we tend to be very polarized about this issue that big store bad, small store good. and you've raised some really interesting points. i mean, where would our arts and entertainment be without the largess of some of the largest companies in san francisco? where would our youth employment programs be without some of the largest companies here in san francisco?

and to your point, there's a matter of choice in all of the communities. and i think that this legislation that was originally adopted, as mr. cohen pointed out, provides for conditional use process that is effective. it puts the power in the neighborhoods themselves, which we agree with here. we think that the neighborhoods should have their own autonomy to make these decisions on a case-by-case basis because the city is not homogenous and should be dealt with by the communities that occupy the various geographies here. so, thank you very much for coming out. it's vitally important and it's essential for us to hear your point of view. so, thank you so much. >> commissioner riley. >> i also agree that we need to have balance in the community, you know, small and large business, job creation and all that. so, i stand by our support for the planning department.

~ proposal. >> commissioner ortiz. >> just one thing again. burger king was my first job as well. [laughter] >> okay. do we want to take any action on this item? maybe yes, no, or no action whatsoever. >> may i make a suggestion? i think take no action. i mean, we've already taken no action. i just don't want to encourage the same legislation of another supervisor. i think the various people have to come together and present one collaborative effort. i recommend no action on this item. >> i second. >> okay. so, to the motion put forth by commissioner ortiz-cartagena to advance this with no recommendation to the board of supervisors, we'll take a second by commissioner riley

and take a roll call vote. >> commissioner adams. >> yes. >> [speaker not understood]. >> yes. >> commissioner yee riley? >> yes. >> commissioner ortiz-cartagena? >> yes. >> that motion passes 6 votes in favor, none opposed which takes us to the next item on the agenda, item number 6, discussion on board of supervisors file no. 131064. ~ 140 52, building code temporary fee reduction. this is a discussion and possible action item. and we have with us for a staff presentation gail [speaker not understood] from the department of building inspection. >> welcome. >> hi, good afternoon. i am gail [speaker not understood]. i am acting finance manager for the department of building inspection. the legislation before you today renews the building code to provide a temporary six-month reduction for staff services. this year the department is projecting about a 30% more revenue than we have budgeted for this year. the dbi budget for next year has about an 18% increase in

revenue. so, we do have more revenue than we actually need to provide the services of the department. we've had this problem for the last couple of years and the additional revenue has been wonderful for us to do one-time projects like we have a couple capital improvement projects in our budget or technology type projects, but we don't need to continue to bring in this much revenue. so, right now we're working on a fee study, which is probably going to be completed in august. and after that fee study is complete we'll revise all of our fees on a fee by fee basis which will probably need to go up, some will need to go down, but right now we do have too much revenue. so, what we'd like to do is a temporary fee reduction of 7% which allows small businesses and anyone getting a permit to have a small break on their permit fees in the short term. and then once we finish our fee study we'll do legislation that amends our fees permanently. this will not be across the board. it will be fee by fee. so, that's kind of our proposal. there is a 7% reduction.

it's about a 1-1/2 million dollars decrease of revenue over a 6-month period. it's not a lot of money, but it does acknowledge we are collecting too much money right now which is a rather unique problem to have, but we do want to acknowledge we are collecting too much money and we are addressing a problem long term. it's just not going to be done in time for this budget. so, we want to do a temporary reduction and a halfway fix through the year. >> any comments? >> nice problem to have. [laughter] >> and i give the department a lot of credit for coming and doing this because it will help a lot of people. so, i really appreciate that. before we vote, do we have to take public comment on item number 6? do we have any members of the public who would like to make comment on item number 6? seeing none, public comment is closed. [speaker not understood]. >> i move we support the fee

reduction. [laughter] >> do i have a second? >> that's a second. >> to the motion to recommend approval to the board of supervisors of this legislation we have a motion by commissioner dwight, seconded by commissioner white. commissioner adams? >> yes. >> commissioner dwight? >> yes. >> commissioner ortiz-cartagena? >> yes. >> commissioner yee riley? >> yee. >> commissioner [speaker not understood]? >> yes. >> commissioner right? >> yes, the motion passes 6 votes in favor, none opposed. which takes us to the next item on the agenda, item 7, >> so, commissioners, before i get into my report, i want to introduce you to forest lu. did i say your last name correctly? forest comes from us as an intern in oewd working with marianne thompson, excuse me, on the business tax and our gross receipts transition

program. and, so, forest comes to us by way of the asian pacific islander public affairs association program. so, definitely commissioner yee riley, want to introduce the two of you. so, forest is going to be helping with doing more outreach to our chinese-owned businesses around education for the gross receipts because we are going to be moving. now we've gotten through the first increase around business registration. there is the filing that's coming up, and helping businesses understand that we have this five-year transition with partial payroll tax and partial gross receipts. so, so, i just wanted to introduce because forest will be partnering with our office and then doing community outreach as well. so, welcome, and thank you. >> this is a summer internship?

>> forest, you want to come up and just say a couple words about the internship? >> [inaudible]. yes, a summer internship through the organization she mentioned, should be ending in late august. >> where are you in school? >> i just graduated from ucsb. >> congratulations. >> thank you. >> my daughter is going to be a junior at ucsb. >> do you speak cantonese and mandarin? >> just mandarin, unfortunately, for this community. >> fantastic. welcome to the effort. >> yes, thank you. >> welcome. >> all right. so, i want it provide you with some updates. the small business development center, we have gone through a round of doing interviews for business advisors and have

selected 24 preselected business advisors. so, and then the next step is to hire a small business development center director. i didn't put it in my notes, but just to let you know, jordan kline who was spearheading this transition, has accepted an offeror has accepted a position over at the city of berkeley ~ in their economic development program. so, holley long will be taking over this project. last week the mayor met with small business leaders and commissioner dwight, i'll ask you to also chime in on this. the three key topics that the business leaders addressed the mayor, working on -- continuing to do more local hire