2010 and us i it's been a lot of community outreach we are that surprised learning on monday the supervisor wants a continuance we've agreed to august 1, '40 he know it's a huge agenda also moving to august 14th works for us thank you very much. thank you >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> hi, i'm ross cohn i was just called i want to speak in support of the continuance of home sharing the home sharing tauveng it's important it gets discussed in a timely manner and it's important that the planning commission work with our board of supervisors in a timely manner to get it issue out in the open. i have rented a portion of my

home and would 0 like to do that in the future it's important to keep my family in the city and costs are piling up we need the extra income we've enjoyed meeting people around the world without this income it's difficult to stay in the city. the board of supervisors has pending legislation when i think that handles a lot of the issues that have come up around safety security and the character of the communities and it's important that the planning commission get behind that. thank you >> thank you. >> good afternoon david silverman item 14 van ness. i want to echo phil lessors

commits he's handled extensive public outreach over the years that this project was going through the planning process i want to trespassing express our appreciation to supervisor campos and his staff on being flexibility and agreeing to an august date. thank you >> thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners with rubbing better and rose for duncan item 16 on our calendar we're requesting a continuance today first it's become clearing clear there's interest in providing additional rendering and information regarding the front facade we need time to prepare that and the second is

analytical became clear on tuesday we sent the mailing out for this hearing but didn't post at the site that was a complete oversight on my part i apologize as a result we're requesting that it be continued to july 24th so i'm here if you have any additional questions and thank you. thank you. >> >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> commissioner president wu and members of the knicks commissioners i'm here in opposition to the continuance motion for 437 duncan warrior we've had nearly two years to get ready and everything should be ready to go today. many people from noah valley 20 have taken time off and not

being paid and many have had to find carr for their kids we think putting this on a future japd is not optimal and we prefer to move forward today >> thank you. next speaker. >> commissioners i'm john on duncan street i'm the dr requester i'm in opposition to the continuance we have neighbors in opposition to the project proposal. we have canvassed the neighborhoods at least 7 or 8 blocks worthy i'm handing out 4 hundred flyers and dozens of petitioner's opposing the project the project is very well known, and, secondly, i mean,

i'll spent dozens of hours based on the project sponsors plan set including the most recently plan set provided in the packet that illustrates inaccurately when the presence of the penthouse on the top of the building and how it negatively impacts the front and the lateral views other things are not in dispute and i would several ask since we've got people here that the matter be heard today. thank you >> at this time let me ask the director it was stated that the posting was not properly posted soy building there's a legal matter in front of us. >> if there was indeed not a posting on site then the

commission it is of the not appropriately post and the commission can't conduct a hearing it has to be physically posted on site. >> and is the - it's the project sponsor responsibility to post on the site. >> that's correct. >> okay. do you have a question? okay. so to the public it sounds like we're legally unable to hear item 16 today. i think it's difficult it's the project sponsors responsibility to post on the site but the dr requester who asked for the hearing that's where i see the legal problem >> can i speak please. please we'll continue public comment.

>> i'm georgia i'm here about the mandatory dr i don't know if that makes a difference by the sign ways up about the 311 report i mean we've not talked about nothing else i'm not here necessarily about the public dr i'm here about the mandatory dr i don't know if that makes a difference and the regard to the change of the facade why wouldn't we get it earlier before a couple of hours so thank you. >> okay. let's continue public comment but keep our comments to the matter. >> commissioners i don't want to wait our time i understand this is a legal issue i'm one of the people who left three children behind and the fact

that the pvrn didn't post and it's not inadequately perpetrate his packets i don't know if you'll hear it my husband spent the time and we are here to voice our opposition to the project and we hope you'll consider that at a later time. >> thank you he. >> next speaker. >> i'm meredith i have a point of clarification i want to ask in regards to a mandatory dr i believe it is in reference to the demolition that's not in the request today. >> we'll continue to took public comment and we'll discuss that after public comment is closed. >> thank you. >> my name is christopher baker i live on 28 street i am

speaking against the continuance of item 16 i took a day off of work less than 4548 hours ago no issue w was posted or any documents there are 30 people were there to talk about it i'd like to prude. >> thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon madam president and members of the community i'm a resident on duncan street and a native of noah valley i've spent most of my life in there and 31 years with the police department i understand the legality issues i'm concerned with the amount of

outreach and the law firm they've hired it's a travesty in regards to the community time and the efforts to come forward and to find out there was a technical lack of procedural, you know, followed by the sponsor it's disconcerting i'd like to speak in opposition to the continuance. >> thank you. next speaker. good afternoon. i'm kevin i'm a homeowner in the sunset district here to speak in support it's very, very important to san francisco i'm a thirty year resident of the sunset it's a big opportunity for san francisco to be a leader in terms of innovating new ways of doing thing question are is a guesthouse for your in-laws that

invest 3 months at that time the rest of the year it is a waste to have a vacant room it could be a place for people to stay whether or not their short term or long term. >> thank you. next speaker. >> again and again good morning. i'm john jordan i'm a 55 year resident of you city of san francisco born and raised love this town i'm employed by this town. i've taken time off to voiced my disapproval the continuance. two years ago we meet with the developer and contractor and a few others and we all everyone that was present all were in disagreement of the property project we all now it seems like

the conversation is terrible there's no just like my neighbor chris spoke that's the first time i've seen them in two years and said what was my position it hadn't changed in two years. i hope you'll listen to our request and move forward >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon. i'm laura gus man, i am with the local homeowners and i'm here to support the matter on van ness. i want to note for the record with the resource center we're latino we're near the proposed site and neither has the mission health center that is our mother who has been on the corner of south van ness and 167 for 6

seven years we're concerned about the planning department continuing to support and voting for a meeting when there's no appropriate conversation with the community they can say they've culminated with the community but we've not been communicated i've spoken with commissioner and we have a 14 hundred homeless people in the 16th street area and hundred of first names important homeless we need to prioritize affordable housing before we pass any other condos in our neighborhood >> thank you. as a reminder place keep our comments to the matter of continuance. >> next speaker good afternoon. i'm tommy with the housing rights committee. i'm speaking to the matter of 490 van ness we're in support of

a continuance until september 11th the main reason the housing committee is located in the same block we're within 3 hundred feet from the site and we were never, ever every notified we knew nothing about the april 23rd community meeting until yesterday that's when we find out we've to 40 not been contacted around this project. i'm also part of the plaza 16 coalition when is coming around the 16 and mission project we won't address that and yesterday at our meeting we brought up our 490 project and nobody in the room within the mission no one had been contacted by developer about this project we're talking about people that are imitating involved in all kinds of things

in the mission and as laura said the community has not on cracked we're alarmed to hear this is going forward they have an obligation to be talking to us. and they certainly should be talking to us another some point i imburglar you a continuance we need more time all the groups involving we're asking for a continuance until september 11th >> thank you. next speaker. >> hi, i'm from the housing rights committee i support the van ness continuance. i walk by that place everyday

and we - i just harder about it today so i support of the continuance until september 11th >> thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon, commissioners i'm ray on behalf of jonathan the dr requester has filed it was to the council and have been diligently working with the project sponsor to document a need for the intrefrnl we received the comments from the written agreement we understand the project sponsor is against a continuance but again, we're very close to a written filmmaker that would need the dr we'll agreed in principle to a number of items that addresses

the concerns so thank you. >> commissioner president wu. >> i didn't hear what project this gentleman said. >> item number 15. >> good afternoon. i'm dana resident of the outsider richard i support the continuance of item 2 regarding short term residential rentals. thank you >> thank you. >> my name is jan, i live near delores park i'm here to speak about item 2 i favor continuance. >> thank you. >> hello, i'm bryan the director of the aids housing alliances my voice is shaking by the serial e verdict was before me and this is the first time i've seen her. she took away so many things

thirty gay men diodes died in the home we take care of them, they were buried in the backyard i was going to be buried and she never took occupancy of the home but i'm here to speak in support of continuance the community is being destroyed by jan new field and other speculator that are displacing long-term resident people that built the community they've preventing off the heart and soul that we put into our communities. we need more time to properly organize and have a conversation with the vendors and try to come to some kind of peace and dirty tricks and not omni bus the

rules and kicking people with aids out off their homes is we need our support to stop this displacement thank you. thank you. next speake thank you. next speaker. >> i am a fourth generation san franciscan. my son and i raise guests in our home i'm in in favor of item number 2 continuance >> thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon board. members i'm the project sponsor for 490 south van ness we find it appalling we've been in the process since 2010 we've had two notification meetings we've sent out the 3 hundred road us map i

have showing over 40 neighborhood groups that were notified of each meeting those groups that showed up today i don't know where they were in the past but if they have been linked in with what's been going on we've been giving public note a photograph of our notice the president of the united states hates been on site for the last thirty days we've worked intensively with planning and the site is closed for over 5 years there's nobody being displaced its not safe for kids and the neighborhood. we have having grants and graffiti and vandalism in the area since 2010 we'll fit us in

our august 14th hearing thank you. thank you. next speaker. . >> good afternoon. i'm sharon a homeowner in west portal. i'm here in support of you working with the supervisors to work out a situation for home sharing. i've been in my home for 17 years i'm widowed it's quite a bit of business into our west portal shops and restaurants >> is there any additional public comment. okay seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioner antonini >> thank you, my thoughts on some of the requests the first

is item 2 i've heard everyone in favor of the continuance until august 7th that's an easy one. on duncan item 16 do we have a decision whether noticeing >> it's mined that the post was not on site to clarify the process that the department provides the project sponsor with the physical poster and they're required to put it on site and you give us american people affidavit and we provided the poster but not places on site there was a mail notice but not posted physically on site. well, that being the case it seems like we can only regretfully continue this to the

august. you have the ability to take testimony >> that's maybe a good suggestion to let the people talk about this but not make a decision. on item 14. are 490 van ness i was at the community meeting there were many people in support a few people in opposition but it generally seemed to be well presented and had a right to building that people in the neighborhood were not aware of the item with that said, supervisor campos has granted those who question the more time to meet with the sponsors or sponsors but i believe the project sponsor and the sprafrz have a meeting scheduled for

july 15th so i don't see why the continuance should be longer august 7th if there's a problem with that date it can be continued to a later date but if we can get it moving forward yes did you want to respond >> i believe it was august 14th and but mr. lessor preferred the 7. >> we haven't talked about that day not that i know of. >> yesterday when we spoke we heard that the supervisors office agreed to the 14 of judgemental. >> we had to come up with another date; is that correct the 31st. >> yes. july 31st is cancelled. >> so we had to move that

meeting we're willing to go to the 14 very understand it's a full agenda, of course, our preference is for the 14 that's what they would like. >> so apparently everyone is in in favor of the 14 so i'll be in favor. we have a lot other comments i'll wait until the other supervisors comment >> commissioner borden. >> obviously everyone is in agreement on item 2 but item 4 - on the liberty street no one talked about but i wasn't sure what happened and he in terms of duncan street just to make a not to the public there's two

commissioners not here actually 3 i'm going off the commission and two other commissioners are absent so if we take testimony you'll have a subtle different commission on whatever the dates are and none of that can factor into the deliberation because of the legal issue it's reprehensible because the posting didn't happen and it calls into question a lot of things but it leaves under the law we can make you stay until we get to item 167 and hear the testimony knowing your have to have a different commission donate why it's not optimal so it's the last item on the agenda i personally am disappointed that happened.

it is i would say that maybe the commission can take that under advisement but to the planner on item 15 what's the - >> the dr requester is asking for more times but the project sponsor wants more time so maybe it's better to continue the continuance. >> can i follow-up on item 16. there was an inquire around the mandatory discretionary review >> the department will combine the notification into one hearing so the notification specified that the commission will look at the mandatory discretionary review for the demolition and the new construction for kwefg that was filed by the new neighbor.

>> i'll add with commissioner borden why it was not posted on site it's clear to the lawyers involved this is also required. >> commissioner sugaya >> just to add to the composition of the commission there are other commissioners whose terms are already up it's quite conceivable you may be seeing one or two or no at least 2 commissioners may also not be here in the future. so to hear it now i think is very risky in terms of having the composition change over time i'm not saying that's going to happen but another possibility to add to what commissioner borden said.

there are ones that are in agreement looimg i'm going to go ahead and move item one and two on the consent calendar and item let's see - . 14 south van ness to august 14th was the argued upon date. did we have consensus on - >> 14. >> i think the project sponsor wanted it to go to august 24th. >> on duncan street and lastly liberty street - okay that's right we'll leave that off. >> second. >> so what was the date for the

16. >> duncan and the liberty street to take it up for and clarify number two to august 7th. >> august 7th. >> yep, august 7th. we're number 2 >> okay. so on that motion. >> still commissioners that have questions and commissioner antonini. >> i'm supportive of the motion regretfully i'd like to have the people comment on it it will be taken up later but it seems like the thoughts of the other commissioners it has to be turned one way or another. i have a question on the 31st of july. it seems like this was a date that was add