the parking meters, and i am very excited to see the new meters rolled out as i am sure that everyone is, it is important to mention that we do see a lower citation rate with the new meters since it is easier to pay and i do hear people raving about the pay by phone with some regularity and it was funny that i was watching the news and they had old footage, and if we could keep in mind the bicycle parking issues around that, and i know that the new meters are slightly lower and i am hearing that some people are having problems locking the bikes to the lower meters and have suggested the modification that i believe that they have done in oakland when they have removed the meters to cap it and to add a loop and we know from the other areas that the bicycle parking can continue to be challenging in popular neighborhoods and the last thing that we want to do is lose any bicycle parking when we are working so hard to get enough. >> questions or comments?

any member of the public? >> thank you. >> and we finally get to the next item is the citizen advisory committee. >> yes and i do not see mr. weaver here and so there will be no report. and the opportunity for the members of publicity to address the board on matters that are within the jurisdiction of the board and not on the agenda. we will start with hon su kim and you filled out a card for public comment followed by kristine rogers and anthony balister. >> good afternoon, and directors and president of the cab company. this past week, the city tax and limo system put a seize and desize on the lift vehicles trying to operate in the city. >> these companies that have technologies that the company likes, and is a technology that

we all should be supporting which is booking of a vehicle through a app and we can see the vehicle and so forth. that is not the issue, the issues like the tlc has found is that taking your personal car and acting like a taxi cab without any medallion requirements and inspection of the vehicles is not in the industry. and today i am going to talk about the economic realities. right now, the idea for paying for the use of a medallion, when you have thousands of cars on the street doing the exact same thing is not sustain able, the values have gone down, and

they will continue to go down. and they will continue to go down, a company like soto can only survive if we can make some sort of a profit and believe me there is an enormous demand for service and we can be profitable in a deregulated environment when i am not paying for the use of the med dallons it is not the issue here, a company like desoto in 90 days will have to transition to one that no longer uses med dallons if we do not change this environment, and i am not the only company and that is sadly is the reality today, thank you. >> speaker? >> kristine rogers followed by anthony balister and herbert winer. >> good afternoon, thank you. >> thank you for having the comment. >> and like my name is kristine rogers and i have been a resident of the valley for 14 years and san francisco for 25

years. and my comments today are in regards to two requests for modifications for the commuter shuttle pilot program and before i begin i want to establish that my neighbors i speak on behalf of my neighbors and i support the green initiative. and what the city is trying to do with the commuter shuttle pilot program and i want to mention that carly pain has done a great job in being very responsive to us. and i just want to thank her, and there is only one other person that can handle the band width and what i want to present today, is two petitions and they amount to two minor requests that relate to reducing traffic on the residential streets and moving one of the commuter stops and the first petition, really relates to the routing of the traffic of these large commuter

buses. we are trying to, the first petition is to reduce the volume of commuter bus traffic, down one small residential street, in the valley and it is on 26, between castro and noe. our street supports the 24 electric bus running east and west and supports the fire station, running west. and we do not have the capacity to support all of the corporate buses let me just list out all of the buss that go down my street. >> we have google apple, e-bay and ride pal as well as other unmarked buses and we are talking about one residential street and our request is that we have these commuter buses use alternative streets and at a minimum we ask to reduce the commuter buses on this street and limit it to one way, and eliminate the double decker

fuel-driven buses. anthony balis. te. r followed by herbert winer and then john todd, yeah. >> good afternoon, >> good afternoon, chairman and directors, and i am here to say that i am not happy about the out come of the vote yesterday. i campaigned very hard to fend for it. and i was i got hired for those, and the sfmta for october of 2011 and i am glad that it was advice and so that we get equal pay and i appreciate that very much. and as i said in mr. haily that june second, i did work, on my days off for tuesday and wednesday, and that monday, i worked and that tuesday and wednesday i need a day off because i could come in here and hold my head up high and talk to you and have you listen

to me if i were to, you know, got sick, and so, here i do appreciate it and i want to think that the way that the out come came is because i presented my numbers to the board. and every saw it and they asked me if we had a firmly and apologized and said that the numbers were correct and we are like a family and we argue. but we are good. you know? and i want to thank you, and thank you very much. and you know it was great. >> two things that i wish to say for one thing the whole problem for the muni drivers could have been prevented if the proposal was from the start and no members of this board or

no executive, or anyone in a position of administration would have agreed to that contract. and it was a lowsy contract, and you created a problem with the city transportation and as a passenger i don't appreciate it and you should have been ready from the word go. and the second is about the seats being disabled on the buses this is for safety reasons and i can understand it because if there is a fence, and a break, and the people can go forward and be injured because there is no means of safety. and conversely, you have another problem. on the seats. and that are horizontal. there are right angles to the seats. >> if it comes to a sudden people can be hurt and you have to take the appropriate means it preserve those seats on the sxwus what is going to happen? are the seats permanently disabled? this is a great disservice for the public. and you have to do something

about it. and maybe it is not the responsibility of the board. it is the responsibility to the manufacturer and you have to get on their case because those disabled seats mean that four less seats for passengers on the bus if anything is disabled it is the policy of the manufacturer and that should have been addressed when the buses were purchased and so do something about it and i really want to see mta get on it and i don't want to see it stand for more trouble, thank you. >> thank you. next speaker please. >> john. >> it is john tosha. >> hi, i own a small business on geary street. and the pet supplies and i got to tell a quick story as

everyone knows there are sistering going on all over the city and we are right on geary street and it is going right on geary street and which blocked off the entire parking lot and the businesses on geary street, all of a sudden, their customers had nowhere to park and we had 7 parking meters right in front of the businesses, and so, i contacted a small business administration kathleen, and commissioner who then contacted director, and who then contacted and then i told him the problem, and thanks to the director riskin's department, everybody got together, and was able to put 50-minute parking right in front of our store, for all of the businesses there. or so our customer cans come in, can come out, and because they have nowhere else to park and our business would have been in deep, deep trouble. and so, thanks to the sfmta

director, and his staff and the small business commission and this is a perfect example of the sfmta who does not really involve themselves in the small business but is concerned about the small business, and i was told by the end of the census that because we are doing construction and things are going on does not mean that it should hurt the business owner, and we really appreciate the togetherness that the department came together for to help small business create parking for their customers otherwise, we would have been in a lot of trouble. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> next, please? >> howard, straner followed by dave, snider and tone lee, and those are the last people. >> directors, this is howard, and i want to give you another update on driverless cars and so now it seems that google is in sacramento trying to develop the state rules for these cars.

and now they have a prediction, perhaps in ten years these cars will be available with no driver, no controls, no nothing. and but very good, and this is difficult as all of those algarhythms are and tying all of the camera work and everything into the controls of cart and probably one car talking to another car and one car talking to signals and all of that kind of stuff and when those cars come to san francisco, and they try to run it and someone spends $30 million to provide taxi service because that is what it will be is driverless taxis and you will have to come and say that no one will have to park again, how are you going to make your 200, 300 million dollars a year that you need from parking cars? so i am trying to say to you, start early, this is going to be a more difficult problem than even the gaog the algarhythms and all of the state laws for you to negotiate the drop that has to be a very

able drop, i mean, if you want to take your google taxi downtown at 8:00 in the morning or 9:00 in the morning that is a major drop, if you want to take it from a bus stop to your home, late at night, there is no drop at all. you know a nickel and a dime for a mile. so start soon, thanks a lot. >> next speaker, please? >> dave, snyder, followed by ton lee who is the last person who has turned in the speaker cards. >> good afternoon. good afternoon commissioners, my name is dave snyder for informational purposes only. i am a co-founder of united taxi cab workers, and practiced law one time. also i have been a reporter with it from time-to-time. and the reason that i am here

today, is to verify some information perhaps the staff can get back to me and i think that it is for the safety issue, actually there are two reasons. the safety issue, the last time that i spoke to chris hashi the former director of taxes and if i understand it right and i may have made a mistake, i asked her on an update on the panic button for the drivers to be able to call the police in case of an emergency that will be located somewhere in the cab and i have an idea of where it should be, she indicated that the board of directors has rejected that and that may be my misunderstanding but nonetheless, the need for a panic button, still remains. because at some point, despite the presence of the cameras, and their deterrent effect and the usefulness of the cameras. i think that we need to do everything that we can proactively to protect the lives of the cab drivers, and the next thing that i would

like to say is something regarding the googlization of the world. and that is cab drivers drive an average of 30 full time drivers, 36,000 miles a year. between 6 and 9,000 passenger and they have what, the london cab drivers call is the feel. and or the knowledge, and yet, with these new pcns or dncs, the transportation companies, they don't take any risk, they just pass it off to labor and throw their money bags around. from silicon valley. >> thank you. >> and they effect real workers who have contributed to the welfare of san francisco over the years. >> next speaker. >> lee, is the last speaker with a speaker card.

>> okay. >> good afternoon, mr. lee. >> thank you, mr. chairman. and i hope that i am talking to the people not the... and put the bicycle really soon, and i think that we don't need anybody listening to us and just we put some bicycle. but i still hope that you are listening to me. >> and we had a big crisis very soon come by the taxi and i will be in this business for 25 years. and we are not going to make enough money to pay a payment, very soon by this wintertime and even though, it is summer time is very struggle for actually business. and so, you have to reset your taxi policy quickly, asap otherwise, the wintertime, the effect is coming and your driver return the medallion and the second one and then you will have 100 going back to the office and can't afford to make the payment because we are losing half of our business to the google or any other as

google and they don't pay you zero, they don't pay you any money and they are making money on your own street that you put a lot of money on the street and they don't pay you anything, we pay the fee and everything, and because of you, and i don't think that you can effect the governor or district, and we went to sacramento the last two weeks ago. and back in china it has happened before, two years ago but the china government gets involved quickly and they can see that this cab and organized one guy and managed and correcting all of the and steering all of the business for the individual and a small little guy and a big society effect and you know that they get in more quickly and not in america, and in america, is playing is the ball and you put the ball in another state and another state put it back and nobody risk vonnerbility for our business and the same thing for they take back the operator permit and because of the process and it is a big time and we don't have no more big

time in san francisco and second, 8,000, take it back and don't greety, you lost one hand and it is better than you lost the whole bolts. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> anyone else care to address the board in public comment. >> seeing none, members of the board i think that mr. snieer raised a good point and i don't remember, voting against a panic button, but it seems like for safety sake, i like to see where we are with that. if we could get the consent, we could get for a report on that. >> mr. miller. >> director, you are now at your consent calendar and these are routine and voted on a single vote unless you wish to have an item severed and considered separately. the public have suffered 10.6 and 10.9. and 10.4. and all right, so the directors, let me just, go over the consent calendar, what remains, because i have just been informed by the staff there are several other items

that have been pulled. and so, with regard 10.4 that was severed by rubke, and 10.4 f, the bus has already been removed from the agenda. and at the request of staff. and with regard to 10.4 j. the part time bus zone on haze street is off the agenda, what remains as j, is establishing the bus zone on vaness. and 10.6 has been severed from the agenda, by the public, however, staff has requested that 7 items be removed, those are item g, and h, and that have or that are fillmore street, and it is fillmore street between beach and bay

and item j, pierce street, on union at union and item l is scott street, at beach, double o, i should say, page street. at pierce. double q. pierce street. and at haight and double u, webster street at page and as i said, item 10.9 has also been severed. >> the staff is asking all of those, just in the agenda today. >> removed. >> yes. >> so ghj, ooqqand uu,? yes. >> and then on the remaining, is there anything else? >> i hope not. >> okay. >> and okay, so then what remains on the calendar is there a motion? >> motion to approve. >> second. >> second. >> further discussion in >> all in favor say aye.

>> aye. >> okay, so we will go back to item... >> 10.4, as severed by director rubke, no members of the public have asked that this item be severed. >> dr. rubke? >> i am just asking that the board allow me to recuse myself from the item as well as 10.9. >> we need a motion for the director to recuse., hereself? >> motion? >> second. >> all in favor. >> aye. >> and okay. >> since we do have this severed, this is approving the following parking lot modifications for the shuttle pilot program, is this an appropriate place or not an appropriate place to bring up concerns that have been raised by community members around the locations of the shuttles of the commuter shuttle stops or not? is that sort of an ongoing work in progress? >> well, this item are the

recommended changes some of which have been deferred but this is what we are recommending it terms of changes to existing bus stops or other additions to accommodate the shuttle so that is the specific of what you are voting on here. >> okay. >> or what is proposed here. if there are more general issues, with regard to shuttle stops, i guess that i will i don't think that will be a problem with raising those. >> okay. >> so i do just want to bring up the issue that was raised to me about putting commuter shuttle stops on routes that are currently identified as bicycle routes. and i know that valencia street is one that i am hearing concerns about, since the bus was removed, to now, add commuter shuttles, and makes it a little challenging because they are going to be going to the curb and so, some awareness which i am sure staff has because you know, i believe

that it is all under sustain able streets and so i am sure that there is discussion around this but i am hesitant to add buses particularly in areas where there is not yet a bus stop. and but also, slightly hesitant to add more buses to a route that is a bicycle route and i know that we are trying to keep the rapid networks and the bicycle network from overlapping and so, and again, i know that this is a pilot project and so things can be changed and moved, but i would just, thank you for suffering this director, rubke because i had not addressed that yet. and so some awareness around that, i would really hate to impact the cyclists, with the commuter shuttle stops. and they are big buses and i know that our muni bus drivers are appropriately trained in dealing with cyclists and there is a movement to train the commuter shuttle bus drivers as well and which i hope will be ongoing and i am totally in favor of the shuttle pilot program and i just want to make sure that i am sure, that miss

pain is addressing as she works through all of this that is the issue ss just another one that you have on your plate. >> and so what we do have that training as a permit condition. and if you want carly pain, or transportation manager to speak to a specific issue of the coincidence of the bike lanes and bus stops. >> and developing the pilot network has been a tremendous challenge and off of, and and the pilot is,... and and it is curb use and already and exist

and it is muni and and it is the rotation and the priority locations and so on the vanelcia street and there is a pair of that do exist and the and we have designated and i am in conversations with the bike coalition, and and we will talk about what the options are but it definitely highlights one of the challenges, and in the use, and definitely we are working with our partners colleagues, in the livable streets to be

aware as director riskin mentioned we have included in the permit requirements that once the sfmta large vehicle safe driving around bicyclists and pedestrians curriculum is adopted, that the commuter shuttle operators have a window of time within which they must deliver that curriculum to all of their drivers and so, that is how we are addressing it. >> thank you. >> i appreciate all of the work that you have done on this and i understand the challenge, you are right it is a massive chess game going on in the city and so i am very sensitive to having to do parking removal where there was not any and you are righting using existing muni stops makes more sense and so i am happy with that statement that we are going to continue to work with the community members around all of those concerns and parking and biking, and i have every confidence that you will sort it out. >> thank you.

>> you have a question? >> this does not constitute all of the changes and it is a subset of changes and so, what is before you today, on your agenda is a set of existing muni red zone extensions most of which are during the pique hours only and the handful of white zones and what is not in front of you today is a much larger lift of existing muni zones to be starred with commuter shuttles. those fall under the authority of the public hearing officer at which, we had we have a public engineering hearing and he was able to act on those and these actions that have parking impact have come to you. and so, that is what you are seeing today. and a little additional bit of information and we are proposing the extensions of the

muni zones. and to benefit muni and some of these, and many of these zones, and many of these and to allow for the sharing, and and the locations where muni frequency is very high and there is also a lot of shuttles demand and we propose not sharing and separating the activity and the commuter activity and we are proposing for those communications separate white zones for peak hours only and that is warranted for the locations that you are seeing and there will be a few more locations that are going to upcoming engineering hearing, and assuming that he passes them on and will come to you. and it is fewer than the next couple of board meetings. >> i will make a motion to approve. >> second. >> anyone in the public on this one? >> no member of the public asked to speak on that.

>> and yeah, i was going to reiterate my concerns, that director brinkman brought up, there is communication to me as well, as putting in the tech shuttles or these large buses or shuttles on the same routes as bicyclists, and popular bicycling routes and it is a little different because you know they are private shuttles and not public, and there is a little bit of concern and i feel it personally, and when i get passed by these big lumbering buss on my bike. and i think that the concern is warranted, and i hope that we will be putting extra attention to the issue develops and we don't have the time to dig into this issue just yet but i do hope that we will be open to accommodating things and changing things as they come up

and really entertaining whoever might be advocating to keeping the modes of travel as separate as possible and also, protecting where we can't have that overlap to go for like the protective bike lanes and what have you. >> and so it is super important that people feel that they can ride a bicycle and their children or the people of limited mobility can get on a bicycle when and where they want to and this will be a step in that direction. >> do you make a motion? >> so approved. >> second. >> any further discussion? >> all if favor. >> aye. >> the record will show that director rubke was recused. >> 10.6, minus the 7 locations that i previously read would you like to have me call 10.6 and 10.9 actually probably not because she is recused from 10.9. >> and so minus ghj, l, oo, qq, u u.