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i wonder should somebody look at how loud does that maple their better businesses this action should be between the streets of geary and post so he misrepresented where they're related to it's between geary and post which say, i think it's maybe instills in the union shore i don't know the borders but talking to a board member or something recommended to the square bid didn't mean they've talked to the whole organization and they didn't come to my community groups like in district 6. i hope the business the best of for lack of a better term luck i'm worried about the fact they want to be open everyday at
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4 o'clock i'm not sure that's the best way to go initially i don't think they're open everyday but the website didn't mention hours that's a question to staff what's their current hours of operation before they were not in guidance were they open everyday until 4. anyway again, i'm neutral on the item but i think they i know that other businesses on the block when they are going to try to get the after-hour permit they were looked at how we had complaining residents across the street from the condos that to be inspected those who have memory i've been part of the hearings where the residents were upset i'll not mention the
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name of the businesses but the businesses would impact their quality of life. okay. thank you >> thank you is there any public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioners would someone like to make a motion? >> well, i motion to approve it. obviously, the applicant knows when our have a permit for extended hours there's a certain good neighborhood policies and obviously you've heard from the union about cleaning up the alcohol so you fall under kind of the same guidelines that the clubs, you know, and people outside making noise. it is kind of a not tolerant especially open after 2 and lots of people wanting to get to
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sleepy walked by our place >> before you continue speaking asking is there a motion to second. >> i'll second for the purposes of decision. >> what you you have the door closed i don't hear anything that's all i have to say and keep the music low we're not going for an entertainment permit. >> i seconded it for the perspires of discussion i've been out there at three and four in the morning doing the inspectors with the inspectors after hours eating places i find that the background music generally i don't know about this place is not an issue what's in issue is the human speech within the restaurant its late at night and the bars are closed and people are tipsy and
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louder then they would be in not if the tipsy so that's allowed as human speech there's only so many control over human speech it's basically permitted it's not them playing their ipod. >> is there any additional public comment there's a moved and seconded and so people are aware central station recommended as a condition they install cameras and that the video be recorded for thirty days cameras outside. it didn't say that in the language but we can specify >> i have a question for staff planning will allow them to be open till 47 days a week.
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>> yes. >> the permit isn't until 6 right 6:00 a.m. >> they can go to 6:00 a.m. but the commission has the ability to condition hours. >> right. so hearing that anyone want to modify or vote on this particular motion? >> we have a motion and a second and this motion has to vote. >> be voted on. >> pass or fall. >> would you accept a friendly amendment from the police department with a video camera outside. >> yeah. i don't have is a problem with that. >> i don't have a problem. >> and a central station proofing it for 7 days a week or to 2 the application says two days a week. >> do you have this i can pass
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it over it doesn't specify only speaks to the camera. >> well i can't tell if central station knows he wants to be open 7 modernize a week because the application says 2. well technically all permits unless they ask for a particular condition are for they may plan to operate twice a week or we understand but unless we condition them they get the full rights of permit. do you have something to clarify >> i want to be clear on the motion. >> yes. >> are you going to restrict the hours until 4 or restrict the hours friday and saturday or just flat out -
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>> the motion stands as the motion. >> the motion to approve with the police conditions. >> and that's it. >> okay. on the motion to approve with the condition from the sfpd commissioner campagnoli. commissioner lee. commissioner joseph. commissioner hyde. commissioner perez. president tan. >> congratulations the motion passes we're going to move on to our next permit. >> all right. so the next one is for the village located on the 969 market street we've received an e-mail earlier asking this application be postponed until august 5th so on that we need a motion to go ahead and postpone.
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>> okay same house, same call? >> yes, ma'am. so moving right along the next one is for bartlett haul and richard is applying for a new permit a new restaurant on the ground floor of the spauld hotel it's been a welcome option for the travelers, etc. and expecting the entertainment will be small ensembles billions ambassador for weddings and private events he has hotel guests upstairs and wants to keep them happy not booking any loud acts or djs mr. will the in her is here to talk about that >> good evening keep in mind members of the commission and society director and staff i'm richard one the principles of bartlett haul and a commissioner
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on the hotels in the union square the spauld hotel and he does herbert hotel and the park hotel. bartlett hello is a welcoming restaurant the turn of the century designed by michael brendon no one who designed zero, zero and a number the bars on polk street. it has a chef by the name of manuel he was at maverick it burdened or burned down and before that at boulevard we serve a late diner service until 1 o'clock a.m. we're trying to accommodate the theatre crowd we have if you restaurant in the union square. with regard to our outreach we've reached outd out to district 67 probably our preliminary reach out was for the sfpd and the union square
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public policy and the union square bid and in the general neighbors in our immediate properties adjacent to us. let's see what else can i tell you that would be of interest. we've received a this evening the recommendations from the police department for approvals with regard to the noise automobile noise outside and the security personnel and a eloquent security system and have agreed to comply with the thirty day minimum that's no issue and naturally as a good neighbor we'll remove graffiti hopefully not in union square. we request or the police requested a security guard application we're a restaurant
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preliminary we have a right-of-way capacity we're a bar but we anticipate this house of request for the place of entertainment request a number of people want to come to us and buy out so in the capacity of the wedding party the jp morgan they want a guitar ensemble or something like that we don't see drums or a tub by a or anything that makes enjoys the request is that was are regarded the police having the security personnel we think it's practical to keep the costs down that it be at one hundred people and it be for events over 9:30 p.m. we're
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looking forward to working with the commission >> thank you very much commissioner joseph. >> hi so your occupancy is 2 hundred and 14. >> yes. >> so the code requires that you have securities every one hundred patrons when entertainment is present. >> exactly. >> so one security guard won't do it's 2 hundred and 14 if i meet our occupancy you're required to have two. >> we'll welcome that that we have no issue it's the 75 was neither fish for foul we wanted one hundred activity. >> so commissioners any other questions. commissioner lee >> oh. i'm back can you come back up >> as you heard earlier we have
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sound issues with buildings with live music things like that are you doing any sound proofing at all with the band or sound stage is. >> we don't have a stage we double sheet rocked and have sound installation instead of and shawn burke is going to do his sound testing tomorrow we welcome that. so we're perpetrate as was mentioned we're next to the bill of flourns so we don't want to chase out our clients. thank you for asking we're conscious of that we've designed the charles people designed the speakers that's it they're not on the ceiling their 8 feet up, if you will, they're posted - >> bringing up them in is a
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good thing. >> any other questions. >> commissioner perez. >> thanks for coming in it says in our application you have an outreach for the district of and the union square id can youtube at that your presentation. >> mr. nolte is here my egyptian ass ways held up but we're presenting what we're going doing there with the evolution with the bar and ms. black stone has menus so we've presented to the committee sflfs a representative from the central station and the tenderloin station and also the office of economic development on behalf of the mayor ben van
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hotel even was helpful in putting us in touch with the planning commission. >> very good thank you. thank you very much officer torres >> good evening, commissioners i'm officer torres i'm going representing the police station i had an opportunity to visit bartlett hall it's a very nice high-end restaurant pub and it will be a good edition to the union square area. i turned out mr. lighter toured me throughout the restaurant it's very nice high-end top of the like that and looks like it's going to be a good edition to the area we recommended approval to the conditions >> great.
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just one question while you're up here do you recommend 75 to one in security ratios is there a reason you lowered it >> our experience although at times you may need more security guards when you have those event especially in the union square area we'll have issues in some of the other establishment like the one op1 open ellis street i going to think it fusion lounge although they're good restaurants you need more security in that area we feel in that area we need important security like for big event. >> thank you any commissioner questions or comments before we take public comment. >> is there any public comment? go ahead and come up.
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>> good evening. i'm karen the executive director of the union square business improvement district and we represent the property owners in all around a 27 block of union square i'm here to speak in support of this to approve the entertainment permit mr. litter has been engaged he's got 3 hotels and attended many of our lunches and more importantly came to our public meeting where we presented his plans for the restaurant and asked for our support i've been there a couple of times a upscale restaurant we presented to other members and they were all there to see the restaurant and what have you through outreach and we're all in support of this item so thank you. i sent over a letter earlier today so it you have not
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received a copy okay. thank you very much >> thank you. is there any additional public comme comment hello, again >> i'm michael nolte curling speak on behalf of district six the bartlett hall didn't two meetings on november 12th as a new restaurant applying for a liquor license and on june 10th when they were talking about a place of entertainment permit and i was not present at the june 10th meeting i was attending a funeral but the organization did support the
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permit because other people i'm not the only person in the organization sometimes, people think that but that's not the way it goes get the smiles on everybody's face that's good. the band i did a site refugee went off site to work at the premise as the permit officer from the tenderloin station mention that's a very upscale and new looking that's good to see it looks new and fresh and you know it looks like, you know, it is nice to look at something brand new and hopefully no one will wreck it. and i did talk to the manager at
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the time and asked to look at the security measures and stuff i was very thorough when i went there and i did have a discussion with the owner at the time also again, our organization is in support of the place of entertainment license it's a good edition to the neighborhood. although we also here they are trying to mitigate 91 any noise on the neighbors so again, we are in support of it thank you >> thank you. is there any additional public comment? seeing none seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioners, if you have a motion to make please make one >> i want to move to approve addressing condition number 3 from the police provide a minimum of one security
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personnel and i will go with their request per one hundred patrons and also is that after 9 that into the line and then. >> sorry can you restate that and i mean, i'm wondering. >> it should be when entertainment is present. >> if they have a daytime wedding and a band it's after 9 collection at night. >> great so one squared per one hundred patrons when entertainment is present. condition number 5 security cameras that are arranged for the venue for thirty days. and those are the two i'd like to add >> so just so i get this right
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you want to your motion is to approve the permit with conditions 3 and 5 and everything not there. >> the good neighbor policy goes along what the permit we don't need to add it again, it also talks about noise and cleaning up around and i believe the loitering law any place of entertainment a loitering law within 14th century 15 feet it's part of the law. >> right. >> so i don't want to add the graffiti a they'll remove it within 72 hours. >> right so a second for sxhdz motion. >> i'll second it. >> my discussion before we take it to a vote. on the motion with police
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conditions 3 adding one security per one hundred patrons when entertainment is present and also 5 including of security camera language. commissioner campagnoli. commissioner lee. commissioner joseph. commissioner hyde. commissioner perez. president tan >> all right. the motion passes. move on to our next permit. twitter amendment >> so this is the rob straurs doing business on second street the 21st amendment the brewery cafe and last year they came before you to apply for a loudspeaker permit for a series of afternoon bluegrass event into boom alley they actually have permits to have tables and chairs.
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mr. assuring at this point did lots of outreach and for the bluegrass band over 8 over 4 months twice a month approximately and no problems. now that he has had this pilot program asking to amend the place of entertainment for the alley >> is it an l o p pilot. >> so i have a question before you gone. the place of entertainment permit is a permit for a fixed place a building >> that's true up until last year when we had the america's cup and the city attorney has advised us it's permitted you can't go for a live permit if you have a plays of entertainment permit.
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>> so you extend it to an outside garden. >> we can condition that part of the permit. >> is that an major amendment okay. now i understand. >> okay. so let's see we got the police conditions from the southern station and in addition the public works and the mta has asked for the following to be included and i have this in our memo no existing footprint into boom alley without going back to escot and maintain clear assess and the 21st amendment will manage the pedestrian traffic. with that, mr. assuring is here to talk about his plan >> hello sorry hi, i'm rob the
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general manager of the 21st amendment we occasionally like to have light blew grass music that's what the neighborhood has intended to agree with so we aren't expanding the beer garden everything is remaining the same i plan to continue my community outreach before every event we plan it do out there at the end of the day that's not something to do very often i want to do that once a month during the giants off-season and once again when their during the season and out of town. i think that that covers everything please shoot any questions you might have >> have you seen the police conditions a they've list 3.
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>> and they all sound great to us we're almost yeah. also wrapping up by 4:00 p.m. and do this on off days it is done and the conditioned outreach as i previously said. >> great commissioner hyde. >> so i'm on your e-mail list so i was wondering in you could explain about the community outreach is it just e-mail. >> it's mainly the e-mail i also try to get out and visit the neighboring businesses as well. and i did not do that time i knew the community outreach was done but you know obviously a lot of neighbors are regulars so
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the people that i see when they visit and the e-mails and that's mainly it >> and have i had amplified sound there thas this has been the bluegrass amplified. >> yes. it has. usually amplified and every now and then we'll have acoustic has well and houses the amplification set up and run sort of like >> the beer garden is basically in the deboom alley we set up the band has composing close to second street to aim the speakers down the alley usually on the weekend there's no one usually working down the additional on the weekend and trying to keep it going towards a dead end area.
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so we're very conscious of it we have had failures in the past a rock band i wasn't there and i shoven and they played it way too loud we've gone out and tried to regain the trust of the neighbors so on and so forth and they've commented on the volumes some of the comments were it's loud can you dial it down and we did. i'm interested if, you know, becoming an enemy of our neighbors i'll totally willing to work with them we've come to a good understanding of the volume levels they like. i've heard a condition proposed by one of our neighborhood associations we maintain the
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music style is bluegrass. you know, i think the most important thing is the volume levels and if there's a chance that a certain music style might get too loud we'll go with acoustic i'm not obtaining to other sties >> question to boom alley. >> we have a poly called lowered the boom. >> (laughter). >> all right. i don't see any more commissioner questions have a seat. any police comments on this particular - i know we have officer chad is not here is there any public comment on the 21st amendment brewery
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