what we've found the machines themselves don't create a problem for the public, however, whufr the ad alcohol there can be problems. the whole point of the entertainment commission it's our policy our goal to make sure that small businesses like bars and clubs what about successful and provide ways for people to enjoy themselves safely and responsibly and co- exist with the community. the reason we want to see permits for any sort of venue for amazement days it gives us a mechanism to work with the bar. we get complaints about bars and a lot of times they don't have entertainment permits but if they have permits is for electronic darts or pool table we'll work with the bar because

every permit has our good neighbor policy and that's a 13 points policy that that venue needs to comply with. so instead of the arcade being the problem we did not work with a venue to be a good neighborhood unless we have a permit if we didn't have a permit with the venue like someone that has one or two we couldn't work with them it's instead up to the abc or the police they didn't have the staffing that's our point to work with the different venues and places that offer entertainment so the neighborhood can continue to have a good time >> it seems like we use the arcade machines as a means to kind of catch a number of businesses that may not be

participating that the good neighbor policys you're saying we do this with other policies. >> this is for live performance and safe entertainments and mechanic devices. >> you know this is going to be my push back i hear from the small businesses i know i do, too we as a city put a lot of regulations and they support a lot of the policies they have whether it's higher minimum wage so but we put a ton of recollections on them a that's maybe unnecessary so my response is let's work on the other pieces we want to raise the minimum wage and have health care so are there other ways to make it easier in san francisco and to me this is a clear example of that. so if the arcade machines in and of itself are not the issue for

many of the bars i'm not sure i want them to go through a permit process to have arrest indicating can do machines a problem here in the city so unless the machinists is a nuisance i'm not sure i want to support this. it 10 seems like a lot i'm sorry two seems like a lot >> currently their 41. >> i'm saying loans we're making the change today, i think it should be a much higher i take it prefer not to have anyone under 10 come to the commission i think it has to be a higher number to me it's crazy. i'm not sure how many bars know they have to come. to the commission there might be bars out of the compliance and an

extremely hard process if you have only a few because it goes to the regular process and can get appealed that seems like a lot so i'll propose to amend this alleviation >> supervisor kim i appreciate the concerns for the small businesses and the layers they've got to deal with you currently there are 82 locations in the city and i just don't building that a pinball machine is going to the barrier i don't think i don't think that's the protective 6 they're looking for . >> how much is the permit. >> $740 a one-time application fee and annually to continue to operate 3 hundred and 16 no

matter florida i have one or 60. >> that's a significant cost. for two pinball machines or a donkey arcade machine foreperson that they have to come before the commission and if it gets appealed they have to go the board of appeals. i hear you this may not be the task certainly no bar has asked me to take this out of the planning code but that's an unnecessary process because time in and of itself is what it takes to file all the things and to know what all the permits are. so of them are a little bit important ridiculous this seems like like a clear one we can make it easier for the number of

businesses you've listed to operate if the arcade machine is in and of itself not the issue there are pieces where the arcade machine people are throwing them out of the bars this was something that was sensitized by the people we should talk about a permit process to make sure those bars will have the process reluctance in place to make sure that didn't happen but if that's not what we're trying to get out of them i can't support this. there's no need for a respond i'll be making a motion to amend >> that's increasing two to size. >> with minimum i'll be okay with the minimum 5 my preference so to take utility anything under 10. >> do you want to respond for

supervisor breed. >> when we were first distrusting this legislation conceding said why not delete the whole thing i appreciate where a you're coming from supervisor kim absolutely. in introducing we agree with the entertainment commission to be mindful of their continue to introduce it to one i think to 5 supervisor breed will support that absolutely >> okay. i'm fine going up to 5 i actually had a similar response to supervisor breed i understand the concerns of the entertainment commission but i'm fine doing 5. i might say to mr. gibner if we amend it does that require an amendment >> john gibner, deputy city attorney the increasing will not

require a continuance we could would do it i don't know if it's coming out of the committee report it's one line in the ordinance. >> so in other words changing the trigger to two machines to 5 machines and even if that's making the ordinance less restrictive to currently it's one with. >> right it's decreasing the restriction on bars and as parts of a small piece of a large overhaul. >> so what i'm going to suggest is one option to divide the file and to send both forward since supervisor breed is not here unless your competent saying she'll support this.

>> i'm one hundred percent confident. >> okay. i'll accept the amendment to change it to 5 machines. >> out of the respect i'll make a motion to amend the legislation from 2 to 5 so understanding any i guess any venue will have to get a permit if they're ten or more or bar 5 or more. >> mr. iga in her i'm assuming this wouldn't be an issue but amending it back to 2 would we have another hearing. >> one machine limit decreasing it back to one tomorrow to reflect it will not require another meeting and from 5 to 2

so if the commission feels this is importantly we'll have till tomorrow to talk to supervisor breed i wanted to make sure we could at least get the first reading out of the way. and tomorrow's board meeting so supervisor kim has made a motion to amend to increase the - >> have you taken public comment. >> you're right so before we ask for the amendment we'll open up for medical cannabis i have one speaker card for the departmental i'm sorry i did not know the sfpd was here. >> i'm a lieutenant with the

san francisco pd permit bureau representing commander gary it has been working closely with mr. johnson on the legislation he expressed this morning he wanted me to share today is his concern about gaging and the city has been dealing with gambling and there recent companies that are notorious labeling the sweepstakes and we want to see will there be a vesting process for a third party vendor to provide machines to those businesses if a bar goes into an agreement with a vendor who will be the agency that does the vetting process to make sure they're not in a criminal process the sfpd looks

forward to have this updated it's antiquated this is an opportunity to make lasting changes in try and step away from gaging and try to create some guidelines to protect young people. one the others concerns are for arcades if they're in a bar like situation to not advertise for young people to be part ever it and have people on the sidewalks soliciting people on the sidewalks. there needs to be an tenant to be checking ids fittings if as the an arcade geared toward a

young to make sure they have a background check because of the original scope of the legislation this is a great opportunity to visit the issues and have a meaningful conversation about gaging so i don't know if we're able to have a continuance or discussion before it goes to the full board of supervisors but that's the situation of the sfpd >> under johnson on behalf of the supervisor breed would you like to respond to the sfpd. >> sure protective aid with respect to gambling we thought that that and worked with the city attorney's office that's why i highlighted the 0 language

i think we have a good response to some of the other issues from our colleague maybe she wants to speak. >> thank you i mean, i think what the lieutenant brought it's a good thing to have a vetting progress she broths up the concern of arcades our concerns we deal with entertainment that happens at bars when they came to us we brought this to supervisor breed's office we've not had so much support so people watch is a great place but we are talking about places that are bars and we get third party's all the time that want to go in and put in electronic dart the companies are not going to be the responsible party on

premises it's difficult that's why we like to have our mechanic devices equipment recommended to a person not part of the establishment. thanks >> great, thank you. okay. at this point, we'll open open this up for public comment i know i have one public comment card. come on up anyone else you can line up maybe on this side public comment will be two minutes >> supervisors thank you mr. chair and supervisor breed. i'm kirsten the d-8 resident and arcade enthusiast i'm excited to hear about your restrictions for

priorities that want to use the devices this is an important times for our children and at that time of amazing innovation we've got business owners that are bringing new ways to have recreation. i want to support sfpd recreation to protect our children but when it comes to the preservation of machines that are old and outdated and comes to innovating and creating ways for people to gather and play games together those are two areas they're living by the margins like the small business owners that are creating the spaces to do that. so i encourage you to look at the fees because this can only

happen if we can afford to do it and pay the guy to fix it edward reiskin or figure out a way to get together so i encourage you to go further with it >> thank you very much. next speaker. >> hi thank you for considering this today. i'm erick i'm a 10 year resident ever pole valley and a homeowner which is a few blocks away and a pin baurl i have to say san francisco is a city where we support the spaces the parks have been evidenced and a move to create a place where everyone can participate and this is an affordable way for people to get

together. i'm heavily in support of this. you that's it thank you. thank you very much >> thank you to the committee i'm ross a resident of lower hate which is the street where free go watch is located allison park i'm from boston and those laws have stopped the pinballs in boston so moving here and having this community be a part of the ongoing process of being a californian was a big deal thank you to free go watch and other bars in the greater san francisco area for providing those machines a place for the community to join together and learn from one another. i feel like pinball you can

learn from other people and interact it's a bonding thing between people who are enthusiasts and i'll recommend making changes to the law and i thank you for your time. thank you >> thank you very much. public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. commenting has proposed an amendment to change the trigger from 2 machines to 5 machines. and mr. gibner >> so 5 machines will require a permit or 4 to 6 machines require a permit. >> okay. >> so once you machines it requires a permit and we'll take that without objection.. and so first of all, i want to

thank mr. johnson so far working on this and departments that participated we've seen over time situations where something happens or something is perceived in a certain way to recollections are put in place and years good by and it turnout it has unintended consequences we know when it comes to small businesses whether it's entertainment or night life there's a lot of innovations happening and something that maybe back in the past that was causing a problem is now being used in a positive way. we've seen supervisor kim and i and supervisor campos have teamed up to gradually refine the muscone and the awesome

restrictions in the mission there was a good reason then but fast forward now you it is a reform item so the same day is warranted so i'm happy to support this. supervisor kim >> thank you i'm going to express my thanks to confederacy and her office for working on this clean up language i mean, i'll ditto what supervisor wiener said i'll add my name it's important we continue to clean up many is of the arcade regulations 40 in our planning code i don't know free go watch but i'll be checking out it out and see why its generating so much neighborhood support. >> okay. i'll entertain a motion to forward item 2 to the

full board as a positive recommendation we'll take that without objection. >> madam clerk call item 3. >> item 3 is a ordnance creating underground district 360 on ring gold alley. >> supervisor kim is the author and today, we're bringing before land use the ring additionally this is a portion of the key western selma transportation pedestrian improvement plan one the key major pieces it is a necessary component of this process to realize our goal of a living shared street on ring gold is similar to the alley. what this involves obviously it ungrant all the offer ground

utility the poles in order to do work that includes pedestrians lighting and repaving and other landscape consortiums. i know you've talked about this before the board but small business is one the key needs and we can be creative and shared streets is one component of providing the come down to the western plan. on may 22nd the planning commission approved that for the former trans bus lot and they allowed an agreement where $1.8 million will be used asia in loop pavement to had had small business improvements which have been identified as a

consultant for the lgbtq social district for the western unit plan. of the $6.2 million plan $1.8 million will be spent by the developer to present be this to the neighborhood. just wanted to recognize that the officials look with the dispensary did the outreach in the neighborhood we got letters or e-mails of support within 3 hundred feet radius of the project the only concern to make sure that which one see of the polls are hanging down and we make sure that the underground happens in a timely manner but no opposition and want to thank the planning commission and also to the developer who will actually be coming up to speak so far really working so closely with the community on autonomy

building the residential for the west sylmar but making sure it's a plan that the neighborhood supports whether to have an increase in two and three bedroom units and figuring out how the growth and development is going to subcontract so what the neighborhood. so i believe we have presentations here. and so why don't i - >> good afternoon, everyone. supervisors i'm here the planner in the citywide position i believe that supervisor kim sxhierd most of my remarks so i can answer your specific remarks but as she said on may 22nd the committee approved those for the alley for the project at 360 eight streets its a single public right-of-way that

transforms this street into a pedestrian space and calming to travel at the same time. it was identified as >> priority plan for the project and again in the western transportation plan and had many community involvement folks. one person came and was excited about the project and just to have clafrts on the in kinds the project sponsor will be talking about the in kind it doesn't include confidence to the north side >> thank you. i know we also have the project sponsor here.

>> hi, i'm you figuring this out. hi i've been working on this project since 2007 and happy to be talking about both the project proper very briefly and telling you how it sgraths with the in kind agreement with the project us if you could flash it

sits at the corner of eight and harrison site we have 7 distinct building a mixed use residential retail dictated office building small business assessable to the public and an integral alley system that expends the neighborhoods alley system. we went through a hundred and 20 to 50 community meetings as part of the task force development so this project before you is to a large extent e stent the brainchild of the task force itself and the task force tried to resolve conflicts between the developers needs to actually have a profitable project and the neighborhoods need this

important site to reflect the priority to have the people in the area. so those are the 7 different buildings i don't think - there it is that. up top is ring gold and eight stwrts gordon alley on the left and the distinct buildings there was at things in the project and ring gold the loop road is open to pedestrians and bicyclists and automobiles. we have all the parking for the project underground next is the rendering of eight and harrison streets from san francisco from the ethnic street exit.

one of the key elements of the project >> would you say what the direction the car driving down. >> it's driving down harrison. >> towards the stud bar. >> yes. >> okay. this is just this isn't coming up but this is the project from the eight street have you to e midnight time it shows you get a good since of how the buildings are spaced-out and get into the community at large. one of the ms. interesting elements we have assesbl