the penthouse that's well under the 40 foot health limit the rendering show the top is invisible when our close to the building and resides into the background and that's what the design guidelines are intended to accomplish. lastly like to talk about what the building looks like from the rear this is the adjacent building to the north there or excuse me. to the uphill there's a 5 foot health difference not a major health difference didn't dwarf the next building inspection there has been effort to talk about talk

to the speaker before us those conversations ended awe brussel i'm going to change gears and talk about our design team i'm sure you're aware of there's a couple of architects to date an architect of record and in the interest of the consistency the sponsor will with work greg square foot and the other architecture both of them professors at cca and the architect going forward greg is here to answer questions thank you very much >> thank you now taking public comment on those supporting the project. (calling names) if i've called

our name to come to the podium >> feel free to come to the podium. >> hello, i'm mr. duncan a lifelong resident i believe that project benefits the neighborhood i've come to know the project sponsor a is a member of the community. i believe that this will add value to the properties around and thank you for your time >> thank you. >> hello, i'm elizabeth and i'm here to speak in support of the

construction of single-family home on duncan as a member of the family i support the single families homes i've reviewed the proposed plans and the design enhanced the block i support new construction going up and down gone through the rigorous design guidelines. i have sgashgd with the project sponsors and find them easy to work with. i also think it's great one the project sponsors live in our neighborhood and a local project sponsor and will be the one building this single-family home >> thank you. next speaker. >> fmg and thank you very much for your time i'm here to speak in support of it i've been a

noah resident since 1994 i've watched the neighborhood change and grown up there and as a result of that i think the community of noah valley as improved and the lifestyle because of t because of the developers it is eclectic at best and the duncan home was overgrown and the home abandon and the neighborhood was silent to the deterioration of that property over 10 years 10 years denver has owned that property and never been and not once have the weeds been pulled in support of the way it is to hear the opposition i find

amazing. so let me tell you that particular street is far from e semi and has three or four underserved homes so i'd like to see this impact us in a positive manner. i've taken the time to walk the block to ask for people to support the project that adds to the benefit that is enjoyed by thousands of people of the people we didn't go to the people that were non-supporters but people that were in silent support they didn't have the will to show up i strongly ask this boyle's to move forward it's been part of the plan since 2011 and every single time we've

taking into consideration we've looked at it and changed the development plan in accordance to the rules of the building code i ask you to support n his wife jena and i ask you pass this >> thank you. next speaker. >> i'm evan i've lived in noah and work in real estate i understand the process this has been worked with a fantastic design they've proposed homes it is one of the better looking homes and about benefit the neighborhood. i've known this gentleman for many years he's a local guy i worked on the homeowners project

with him, please support that >> thank you. good afternoon. i live on 28th street dribble behind the proposed project. i'm new to this i actually met the realtor and i met jena his wife in the neighborhood probably 6 months ago she has a local business so i'm not sgament familiar but their null married and put their honeymoon on hold and representation because they've been working on this project i say from my view when i step audit on my deck for

one thing i live next door to a huge, huge development a condo and a rooftop deck so we have probably much more than that what's being built next door to us. there's children there and no parties we live in a cannon like effect in delores park if there's a festive you hear it like it's right there. us personally we haven't had a lot of noise even though this thing is probably way higher than i don't know the square footage but as the person living next door i didn't get a lot of noise so when i go out on my deck and look behind me to the

duncan street we don't is a view and that will definitely not effect us. this morning i took a walk because i saw pictures depicting a slight what goes with the grade it didn't look like what was put emancipation proclamation up here. so when i walked up the street today, i saw several buildings that were not with the peaked roof but square looked like they were built in the 70s and a couple of nice houses and up the street they get nicer in my opinion. the house directly across the street is the same way in the back type of design as the one being demolished it looks like a

street that could use, you know, a little bit more i don't know tlc. i'm out of time i think this is - >> out of time and the community (inaudible). >> thank you. >> my name is chris i'm a neighbor's on duncan people respect san francisco for its architecture and a nicely designed contemporary home bridges that and takes us into the future and it's a nice compliment to the neighborhood. i think if you walk on that section of the block you'll find there is a nice mixture of one and 2 and 3 stories over the garage and a couple of large

garages. the architects show that with their plans it's a 4 bedroom home that's a nice size single-family home and that adds to the value of the neighborhood and contribute to the people that will live there >> thank you. next speaker. >> sorry i have here 21 additional letters from neighbors open the surrounding neighborhood in support of the neighbors that were not able to make it this evening thank you very much. >> is there any additional public comment in support of the project? okay seeing none, public is closed. dr requester you have a two

minute rebuttal >> hello, i'm john pilgrim i'll the dr requester living on duncan street i want to show briefly can i have the projector. >> sfgov b will put it up. >> the present names of the. >> will you please bring the microphone over. >> those are people that have signed the petition opposing the penthouse and the relief deck we've met multiple times with the developers and the changes they've made have been small primarily to comply with the front set back and some changes to the windows fundamentally they have not done anything to address - they've moved the penthouse back 5 feet and

reduced the light well, from the original one hundred and 20 square feet to 71, 59 percent as they've increased the roof-deck the changes have been self-serving the one thing we met with them back in february or mark of 2012 is to remove the roof-deck the massing is incompatible with the neighborhood. here is what their structure would look like in context so the roof-deck is visible from across the street their own renderings show that from the street i think this was taken in my derivative it is visible.

so from midway to the street all the way over it's visible that's their rendering here's mine it's visible from down the street including the rendering >> thank you. sir, your time is up. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> project sponsor you have to minutes. >> hi, i'm greg scott with the design architects i want to speak about the context and the miss characterization of the blockbusti blockbusting at that particular timely float roofs and blockage multiple unit buildings directly across and you can see, in fact, uphill across the street street

3 flat roof buildings in a row to chiefr that as flat roof is not correct the consistentcy of the design guidelines i see the kind of example of the consistency of the scale but the varying kind of scales and styles and somewhere in between those two is the nature of that block. in terms of the overall bulk the zone allows the map like this that red mass would be if we were really maximizing out the project as they claim you see the house nesting within the is quite a bit smaller and that's

what those further go into the reductions we've made along the way in response to both planning and the neighbors not only did we reduce from the map version but reduced further in the process so the rendering you saw from the neighbor were not entirely accurate especially from the rear and the face where the comparison was made >> thank you, sir our time is up. >> we've reduced it to the last. >> thank you that's the close of the public utilities hearing. >> thank you for all your comments a few comments we've heard a lot of things in my opinion the amount of skrooj doesn't matter and the number of floors didn't matter what matters it the health and the limit is 40 feet i understand it

is 36 what is typical of some of the other homes not area i know it's a little bit hard when you have a peak roof to measure. >> the department didn't measure the actual haircut of the buildings but as i mentioned in my presentation the majority of the buildings on the street are self-same some two family dwelling and multiple dwelling units towards the end of the block and most of the buildings are one to two stories above the garage level so for that reason the department when the project sponsor, you know, agreed to set back the penthouse the department felt that, you know, they complied with the residential design. >> i'm thinking 90 in terms of the visible look on the street and the dr photo shows as you go

further down the street there's one very large house two floors over a garage but an actinic up under and it's quite a bit higher than the other houses the key is it does sort of look like it fits in with the neighborhood and done a good job of south the penthouse back. an ideal world i'm more a trait i thought i would like something that is more conceptual with many of the houses project sponsor pointed out that many are flat roof and not all of the same period and stuff there's diversity there but, you know, aside from the design i think it is a project that has a lot of good features i see what the

other commissioners have to say. >> couple of other issues that were brought up there was one speaker that talked about the cottage well, nobody is going to rent that cottage if it isn't torn down not legally habitualable it would be a very expensive cottage and the misuse of a lot so that didn't makes sense i support staffs position open is demolition and see what the other commissioners have to say on the dr of the building itself. >> commissioner fong. >> i support the idea we're building some housing in the lot. i do take a little bit of the concern of the health i think even if you removed the

penthouse that'll you'll have a 4 story single-family home and that's one of the priorities so i wouldn't be opposed to moving or shrinking the penthouse >> commissioner sugaya. >> thank you. yeah. i have to agree with the developer or the architects characterization that there are a lot of flat roof buildings in this area if you count the ones that are on the com post elevation of the interstate street we were handed there are 8 will flat roof buildings and 7 peak roof buildings on this side of the street you have them outnumbering i took a quick street google view on the other

side of the street there are a number of flat roof probably apartment building rather wide and i went around on 28 it has more peak roof it is neither here nor there i think the building is too big. you have a guest bedroom that is fine what's the bonus room >> i might ask. >> yes. >> please come to the podium. >> the room labeled is a bonus room on the lower level it's adjacent to that room one thing to say about the level because the entire house was pushed so

far into the ground that is not a place a great place to spend a ton of time down there so we don't see that as - it's really the the footprint of the foundation given the typography but not being over, you know, dpreed i didn't with space is other thing. >> thank you. 39 - >> thank you, sir. okay. so we have a bonus room we don't know what we're going to use and a diagram and a large kitchen and 4 bedrooms etc. including a master closet that's bigger than my bedroom and a

penthouse. usually we have a lot of plans come to us on drs or other kinds of conditional use and there's reasons for the purposes felt room they don't also have to say but the project sponsor whether their developers or the homeowners themselves have something in mind as a program that seems like it the designed around a loss program we end up up having a lot of spaced and the penalty how did is not necessary because i don't know with what the pragmatic is for the penthouse if i'm makes senseing i'm in agreement with commissioner fong the house can

live without the penthouse structure >> commissioner moore. >> i think the project for this round has explained itself better it finally submitted rendering by which which we understand the proportion of the building and it's overall relations to get other joining properties this sub i cannot the fact that they're in step with each other is one of the still unwritten guidelines for hilly or up slope streams we've basically affirmed that over and over again so while i'm not as concerned about the roof form i

think there are works as he you can count them there are buildings with flat roof collectively blend with each other in the longer waking lines as you move uphill having said that, there's one concern i have shared with the plan as well as with the gentleman what is of concern is a concern lack of care about how thirty this project is brought are forward. i believe the last rendering show a sensitivity particularly as it deals with multiple treatment of windows, etc. the plans which we got a few weeks ago don't match the render that's of concern i use the word

in thin air having a set of drawing a set of rendering 31 they create the illusions the point in case is the penalty how did itself in the oriental drawings the penthouse was shown as a glass box now, it's a solid integrated piece which on the flat screen would be more understandable if there's a structures of similar size but it's actuated because the box of the upper floor is in the health and a couple of other things i'm talking to the architect the plan didn't express our render you probably got caught in the middle of the rendering i

definitely grave at that time, towards the observations expr s expressed by commissioner fong the penthouse has to be modified >> commissioner fong. >> i realize it's on a significant slope and there's probably a great view of the roof i won't be opposed to a roof-deck on that roof with a small modest stairwell access but the structure itself is what they are coming to agreement is a little bit too large. >> commissioner moore. >> if i may take that thought forward then the question is of where the stair is located it

will have to be pulled bye back in the visible from the street and other considerations that are partially at the core that require a little bit extra study and couldn't be more than a stair or penalty how did in a modest consideration i will first have to see what that would be. i wonder in mr. joslyn have you thought about that and discussed that in the design review >> i put the question to mr. blue please i didn't participate in the most recent discussion at the r dp. >> doug planning staff so that idea has not been brought to the attention of the department nor considered but i think that if

the commission feels that it would be appropriate thing to do to remove the penthouse level and possibly receptionist that to a stairwell that gets to the roof-deck the planning department will design something that is sensitive and response to the adjacent properties. >> the exception is that mostly the roof-deck offset from the views and occupy a a reasonable amount of space on the roof not the entire roof go to a similar residential design review to go to the deck in the location that's not intrusive. >> sir. >> i'll say given the plan it's

easy to flip the stairwell all the way up through the plan levels could be easily done without plan disruptions that will allow the most penetration of one run dribble down from the roofs and with the stair with insides the roof that could be easily managed in a minimal way. >> commissioner antonini. >> well, i could be supportive, however, the sentiment of the commission is for removal of roof-deck i'll not the roof-deck by the penthouse and allowing the roof-deck to stay you'll come up with a nice structure with the penthouse eliminated and supportive of a motion that