that have either avoided this or minimized it. and any fee should strictly pay for essential, you know, inspection if, in fact, we need inspection. >> commissioner riley? >> yes, thank you. do you have a clear definition of point of sale? because when we were [speaker not understood] legislation four years ago, we were thinking about safeway and key stores, we weren't thinking about small mom and pop grocery stores. he >> well, from what i got was the -- i think its was the second or third slide that point of sale stations, which is the point of sale systems, shall include a [speaker not understood] that uses universal product code scanner, price look-up codes r, or any other

system that relies on retrieval of of electronically stored information to complete a transaction ~ and that's where it gets broad, i guess, on that last point because it just -- yeah, what is that looking at the electronically stored information. but that's the definition it gives at the state level and the local level. so, that's what we have to work with. >> it doesn't include restaurants, too, right? >> yeah. >> because now when you go to restaurant, they key in whatever you order and [speaker not understood], and at the end when you check out and they punch the total, so, that would include all the small restaurants as well. >> even square, i guess the square technology of -- you have to have look-up the price on your ipad and they have a connector and they swipe your credit card. so, i don't know if they can go

around -- i'm sure they wouldn't want to go around inspecting each individual person that has an ipad using square technology. so, it makes it a little bit broad, a little bit tough to figure out everything that they are trying to include in the definition. >> and maybe that's one thing we should look at for the future. >> commissioner dwight? >> well, i mean, i suppose you could just say, well, i'm not using it as a point of sale device. i'm using it it as an inventory control device because that same scanner is used in the warehouse or on the shelf when i do my inventory, i'm going to go around and scan everything. i am not involved in a retail transaction. i'm merely involved in the, in the act of counting and accounting for inventory. and, so, if my quote-unquote point of sale activity is strictly to track inventory, you know, or is for purposes of managing inventory and incidentally i get a total of

the transaction, you know, maybe there is a work around there of some kind. i just -- it's mind boggling that point of sale technology -- that the use of technology to make your business more efficient like this and control your inventory is subject to a tax. >> i would agree. my comment, i had a question for you because i agree with commissioner dwight as well. i think it can be very difficult. and commissioner riley made a good point about defining what that component is. with that being said, a pos system being inspected now in san francisco? i know the weight machines, we're talking pos as well right now? and to commissioner tour-sarkissian's point, some of them don't even know.

is that being caught on a personal and secure taxes as far as the equipment? is that completely separate or is that, again, another tax? or registration fee, do we know? >> so, the department of public health under the weights and measures is the one that licenses the pos system. it doesn't impact them. >> so, when the commission first heard this, and i think -- and i think commissioner dwight -- commissioner dooley was on the commission at the time. when we first heard it, the idea was i think they're first going to roll it out to the larger businesses and then start rolling it out to the smaller business he. and, so, i'm not sure if i'm answering your question. if i'm not fully answering it, let me know. >> if you have a retail license, that's going to be a

trigger and if you're a restaurant that's going to be a trigger because they know eureffect i havely a food -- >> and i think -- and they're getting information. so, if you purchase a pos system or maybe inventory system then those -- they can get the names of the businesses that are using those inventory systems. i think that's how they find out for some, you know -- >> i don't know how they'd find out. you can buy a pos system from amazon. there's no government registration -- [multiple voices] >> in terms of we can ask the department of public health. i mean, i've given them those list of questions to present to you but reiterated. so, but again, it's been in this last year that we've been contacted by small businesses that give you the example of the hair salon. >> right. >> she use he a certain pos system and, so, i think that's common in that industry. she has 10 products. you know, there is not a high

use of inventory for her to keep track of and for her customers to keep track of in terms of what the price of the goods are. we're contacted by a couple retailers in hayes valley. so, you know, it's a question of we're looking at -- as a relatively, i'd say a relatively new regulation. so, it is completely separate from your unsecured property tax. >> okay, all right, thank you. any other commissioners? questions? comments? thank you, [speaker not understood]. for your presentation, well done. >> thanks. >> thank you. >> is there any public comment? seeing none, commissioner? next item. >> next item, commissioners, is the director's report and in your packet is the director's

report. there is not anything new to report in terms of city programs, initiatives. i would like to let you know that the small business leadership group that meets quarterly with the mayor has been meeting with the contract monitoring division and the office of contract administration, and today we met -- i joined them meeting with ben rosenfield and naomi kelly to take a look at ways to increase and improve local purchasing with small businesses. and i do know that there is -- i think supervisor david chiu is looking at doing some revisions to the 14 b ordinance and also the mayor and naomi kelly reported back a couple months ago, have done -- have

conducted some outreach workshops to lbes to get their recommendations on ways of which to improve and make it easier for lbes, sbes to do business with the city. the formula retail, so, the planning heard both of the items at the thursday, july 17th meeting. the planning commission is going to continue to support the planning department's recommendations around the number of entities that will trigger formula retail. and at this point i think there will be two kind of parallel pieces of legislation for the board of supervisors, then, to finally bring together. the planning department formally introduced their ordinance last week and, so, technically this should come back before the commission and

i will, you know, let me know if you'd like to hear it again. if you don't, you don't have to. but that's to decide in the next week or two. and then i have a list of recently introduced legislation that should be coming before you at our next commission meeting and then a status of different pieces of legislation that was heard by the commission, though the commission did not hear the interim zoning controls around landmark buildings and pdr. but since this was the topic thats was brought up as a matter of concern, just to let you know that that item, the mayor has signed that into law last week, i believe. and then lastly, i just want to report that we now have our 10th -- our second 10th staff member [speaker not understood], and she started last tuesday.

so, as of today we have now opened the office back to full service counter hours monday through friday, 8:00 to 5:00. and there's no updates on any particular workshops or presentation that staff is conducting. with that, that's it for now. >> thank you, regina. any questions for regina? [speaker not understood]. next item. >> next item is the president's report, but we do not have president adams here. so, that will continue on to the next meeting. item number 7 is the vice president's report. >> nothing to report at this time. >> item number 8, commissioners reports. >> commissioners? >> [speaker not understood]. >> okay, next item. >> item number 9, general public comment.

this allows members of the public to comment generally on all matters within the commission's purview, and suggest new agenda items for the commission's future consideration. >> is there any member of the public that would like to make a general comment? seeing none. >> we are now on item number 10, new business. this allows commissioners to introduce new agenda items for future consideration by the commission. >> commissioner dooley. >> i'd like to bring up a situation at the san francisco flower market. as you know, i am a florist and there is concern among the tenants of the flower market and the florist community in terms of ensuring that there would be no interruption of this business which is not only a $90 million a year pdr, but that also doesn't include the at least 500 small businesses that are florists in this town that rely on an uninterrupted flow of goods and services in

someplace that can be reached conveniently. so, both vendors and florists have asked me to bring this to our attention in terms of working with the -- with them to make sure that there are a number of possibilities that could come up, relocating people all to one area, is the type of industry that needs to have everyone in the same place. they are concerned about rents being raised once the new office building is in. they're concerned about lack of parking. they're concerned about construction interruptions. and, so, you know, this is a major small business industry and i feel very strongly that we need to get together with the tenants and florists to work out what the possible mitigationses are going to be and make sure that this goes

forward in a way that does not impact this major pdr business in san francisco. we're the second-largest flower market in california and one of the largest in the united states. so, it's not a small thing to be messing with these people. >> what is the plan for the property? >> it has been sold. the first half -- the flower market has two market street, one traditionally known as the italian market which is in the front, and then in the back there is the traditional japanese market. the italian market has been sold to a developer to build offices. and this is -- this is a lot of vendors that are inside. and even though they're making comments about making sure that it won't get rid of the flower market -- as i say, this is an industry that is open every day that cannot afford interruptions to their

industry. and, you know, as a major employer of middle class people in this town, they are very concerned because obviously no one was notified. none of the tenants -- >> it opens early, right? that represents a potential conflict where this industry meets residential and office -- well, is a residential development going to go in, mixed use? >> i don't know if it's mixed use or not. but as it is, for example, the parking area for the flower market is extremely limited and is very hard even during holidays to get people in and out. so, basically we just need to look at working with -- with everyone before the building starts. >> is it zoned pdr? >> it is pdr. >> how many tenants -- >> there are 100 tenants in the one that's been sold. then you can say that

represents each business has anywhere from 2 to 20 employees. these are all fairly well paid middle class positions. apparently the japanese market is teetering on whether they will be sold. the last part of the market is zoned by the sabatinis and they already said they want to sell their property and build an office building. so, we're looking at hundreds and hundreds of jobs. and not only that, as i say, an industry where i know myself as a florist, we go there every day. we don't just go there at 2 o'clock in the morning. it's the type of on-demand business that you go when you need something. and, you know, there's a lot of concerns. this is an industry we do not want to see leaving san francisco. >> so, maybe we can -- is there some -- is there someone who would be informed enough to come present to us about what

the -- what's happening there and what the likely scenarios are? >> right now not yet, but i just wanted to bring this to the attention, that everyone's listening, and it's all drifting. the deal with the sale of the italian -- the italian market apparently will close by the end of the year. but what we're looking for is to get a jump on knowing what the accommodations -- because i mean, if they're going to be building a major building where there is a one-story building right now, this is going to create a huge disruptions and displacement. >> right, but rather than speculate on this here because we can do this all day, i think there is an action item to deliver to staff, and that is to see if we can't identify a person or persons who have some, you know, maybe it's a couple of difficult reerthctionv people. someone from planning, someone from even the present landlords or the new landlords so that we can have a presentation as to

what the proposals are. ~ different any proposal would have to go through planning. >> right. >> so, i think we -- if we can get out ahead of -- letting planning know that we have another situation coming, not unlike showplace square situation where we have an area that is zoned pdr that we're attempting to preserve the pdr uses there, and understand what the potential threats to that might be and whether there -- you know, what the potential outcomes are. so. >> well, i think we should be in contact with the buyer, the developer. >> okay. >> let's put it to staff to find out. [multiple voices] >> there are a number of people -- >> ask for a presentation. >> just one last question. has there been any communication with the supervisor's office at all? >> no. >> okay. >> yeah, let's let the supervisor know as well. that's who -- >> kim. >> that's in district 6?

okay. >> brannan and sixth. >> yeah. >> commissioner dwight. >> yes, i have some new business i'd like to propose. i would like to propose that we schedule a presentation from the san francisco super bowl 50 host committee at the chamber of commerce. we recently heard from keith bruce who is the ceo of that committee, and they are establishing a formal outreach for small business to try and identify business opportunities for small and local businesses, the two being not necessarily the same. and, so, they have a presentation. i think we should reach out to them and ask them to come -- may or may not be keith bruce, but someone from his office, and hopefully we can get -- do a little bit better than we did with the america's cup on this one. so, it's a big event and it's not too far away. >> all right. [speaker not understood].

>> any other new business? >> also we need contact information. >> i think you already did. >> seeing none, next item. >> all right, item number 11 is adjournment. do we have -- >> move to adjourn. >> second. >> and it is 3:25. the meeting is adjourned. [adjourned]you. >> good morning. good morning. welcome and thank you all to the nearly 2 hundred and 50 volunteers that came this morning

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never happens again what can happen with hated and bigotry happened like in the 18930s and 40s. this has been incredible for the lgbt rise in this country, however, aable part of world unfortunate that the offer one hundred countries and 38 nations in saving that cripple lists hometown sexiest and sudan the punishment can be death and it's not illegal in russian president pudding tin signed a law this year's much discrimination for the lgbt community and speakers will point out that out seem as the earlier 1930s and 40s still

exist today. the third wrecking demonstrates how easily a government can brand homosexuals so that germans feel comfortable looking the other way in prosecution. i'd like to thank all those who will be speaking the mayor ed lee first (clappin (clapping) senator mark leno (clapping) assembly member tom (clapping) assembly member phil king (clapping) supervisor campos. supervisor scott wiener (clapping) oh, the treasure of the city and

county of san francisco jose is a in her (clapping) raphael from the county college trustee (clapping) to tell the history of the pink triangle we're honored to have one of our stars from the orange city block (clapping) she'll be speaking a little bit later we're happy to have the grand marshall's of the prayed. i'll be speaking before he speaks and so some of the community grand marshall's we have julia that will be speaking later (clapping) and we also have the organizational grand marshall why not come up

(clapping.) i'm not sure if the other grand marshall's are here can i raise your hand larry and david any more grand marshall's here?. i mentioned melanie she'll be speaking and thrilled once again to have the san francisco's official abandon the looeb and gay freedom band. i'd like to thank our sponsor sf pride and badlands (clapping) the other folks (clapping) the festivals of the indysfunctions and the teamwork and house of starfish (clapping) the castro alliance is paying for all the t-shirts we're wearing

(clapping) the lions president gary nathan are you here will you raise your hand there you are and julyer and starbucks has been providing the coffee and tea (clapping) and starbucks is not only providing the coffee and tea over a decade but brought over a hundred pastries i one hundred and 25 volunteers so thank you starbucks (clapping) there having the bubbles less. and pg&e is sending a group of people up as well (clapping) and wal-mart is sending their first outreach grouping group so

thank you wal-mart >> san francisco police department thank you very much for your help this morning (clapping) thank you to katie hillary clinton up for the triangle west side for keeping that up (clapping) and without the help of my husband and sister paul listen this wouldn't have happened thank you (clapping) joe's is in the middle he had to be different in wearing it's triangle t-shirt. so the history of this pink triangle is starting the program off this is in two parts we're going to hear the history of the pink triangle that happened in the 10930s and 40 we'll have an update. so to give the history of the

pink triangle please welcome not only one of the stars he's an amazing comedian who i used to watch thirty years ago at the rose and he's an accomplished jazz musician and tonight will be performing welcome (clapping.) >> thank you, thank you. i wasn't expecting a are commercial here so i thank you for that. (laughter) it's really a pleasure to be back in san francisco this is where i got my start almost 32 years ago i think it was thouz years ago he's sacrificing don't tell my age i'm gay but i owe

tom a lot and is thank you tom thank you very much (clapping) friends of the pink triangle this is the history of pink triangle. the pink triangle was used by the nazi in concentration camps to identify and shame homosexuals the symbol that was used as an account to label shame has been impasses by the lgbt community, however, in the 30s and 40s this was nothing to celebrate the gaze were forced to wear the pink triangle on the sleeves to set them apart from other prisoners it identifies each the indications of quota quota unintensifyables and brown for gypsies and red for political prisoners and purple for jeff witnesses and black for

anti socials they meant lesbians and paint pink for homosexuals the pink were larger so the guards could identify them it's said those who we're the pink triangle were singled out to get the harshest treatment and so some of the other gnats with harm them at the end of the war virtually all the prisoners we are released expect those who we're the pink triangle many who we're the pink triangle their harm continued it's alters same kind of haired that haunts the gaze and blacks and others the taliban in africa go required us to wear the pink triangle and

this is history as also repeats itself that's why at taking place we must remind people of the hatred and prevent it from happening what happened in the holocaust must be m my not be repeated ever >> (clapping) thank you leah that was terrific she'll be speaking a little bit later. now to give the rest of the history the pink triangle. we have the grand marshall melanie she's going to tells what's happening in africa she's