continue or rise or terminate the preference. that concludes my presentation. and maria and i can respond to our questions >> thank you. do we have any speaker cards >> we have one ace washington. >> mr. washington. >> i am quite puzzled by this whole situation this whole scenario of all the game changes here. from this redevelopment to the ocii from your former staffer olsen lee being on the oversight board that approves what you ail do yet he's involved with the mayor's office of housing he's involved with the mayor's office of housing community development. well ladies and gentlemen, in my opinion my opinion means a hell

of a low we have a situation here with the city and county seemed like they don't have enough people to do the things for the next year so search warrant you have is people in this administration that are playing triple and double rolls this needs to be sit down and analyzed so you'll come out to see something p is fishy if this city and county don't have enough money to get people into doing the same proms but you use the same people ero it didn't seem right human resources historically i'm looking you, you all have been changed from one capacity to another capacity and dealing with the mayor that is going to impact our community. we've got an oversight board what does that economist of they

have the most cancelations >> excuse me. my thoughts are number one if you break down the tree that is going on in san francisco particularly with the redevelopment agencies i guess i got to go so sacramento and get ahold of jerry brown and talk to mr. willie brown i'm so confused with what the hell the city government is doing and me being involved you've got those game changes to keep people off and now new staff it's heading up this program with the ellis act. let's go know the real facts it's okay that you staffers meet on monday but itself history

shows that something is going on what you're leaving out in the input of the communities and it will nip you in the butt. if you think i'm the only one that is clektd out >> any more speaker cards. >> no. >> do we have questions or comments from commissioners? commissioner singh would i like to start? >> you think it is a very good program. i like that and how long it takes to hospital all those guys 82 days >> i don't know if we'll ever house all of them but they have

unlike the program they can only use their certificate one time so depended on how urgent their need. i think we've housed 10 householders since january 2012 some of those folks are been couch to couch homeless and a lot of them are seniors. so we had a big pool of people to house at first on an ongoing basis some that folks have resources and wouldn't apply for the certificate and go off on their own but as long as we can keep our units coming i think we'll be able to put a dent in that. unfortunately a lot of the folks can't afford like cop holders can't afford the inclusionary housing it's geared towards a

higher income so they're waiting for one hundred percent affordable housing or housing that is based on thirty percent of their income rather than a set of rent. so, you know, so they'll waits for those unions as they become available but they'll face some of the same obstacles >> other things you said back there they're selling would this are corporation and selling the other are corporation is there something we can do about that. >> there was a lot of legislation at the state level that was proposed some not so successful and some still in question we'll see. mayor ed lee is this is something he's at the forefront of state level so hopefully

something will be done >> thank you. >> okay commissioner mondejar is deferring to my questions. i mean, i generally support of the item obviously. i'm just trying to make sure i said how it's going to work so i can explain it to others folks because i do know many people, in fact, who have been subject to ellis act evictions unfortunately, a long term residents and so i'm trying to get my arms around, if you will, the target population because i think so it's not everyone this is ellis acted but i'll call long term he residents or tenants 5 and 10 year do we have a handle on that number i mean with what the ellis act victims, if you will, what is the base number we'll be looking at and we don't because the rent board

those are privately owned buildings so the rent board doesn't have the data on who's in the building but they have data on the rents that are being charged and those kind of things but not the actual tenant until the landlord files the notice of intent to withdraw and all the rent board gets are the names of the tenants. we're finding that sometimes, the, you know, those people have been in the unit there are different tenants in the units that maybe the one person is still on the lease but their additional folks in the unit. and so we're working those people if they can approve they've been in the units for 5 or 10 years with a disabled and

document their pg&e bill or other tax returns or intent to kill anything that shows many say their addresses for 10 years they'll get a certificate your question is how many. you know, we don't know. we don't know >> does the information on the displaced tenants come through the rent board how do we know who to reach out. when a landlord files a notice of the president to withdraw the unit they have to send their tenants post on the building and send the tenants information about the ellis act. so that's how people know about and it's on our website the application is on our website. i neglected to introduce mr. -

we get a lot of calls from folks that are evicted she helps people to maneuver the process to see if they indeed quality >> those are notices in multiple language. >> yes. part of the requirements and the rent board is pretty good about letting us know we can sometimes tell from the location of the building when people call us we have to provide multiple languages sometimes and yeah. their supposed to send it out in multiple languages. >> is there part of the outreach if there's outreach collaboration with the community based organizations i know plenty in the mission that folks

gravitate to when they're facing evictions. >> we're connected with those communities based organizations, in fact, we've used their expertise in creating the procedures and policies they were a lot of agencies that were involved in the development of the ordinance with the board of supervisors and the mayor lee's. so they've been on the ground since the idea came back we're trying to get as much as we can out there and certainly all the tenants organizations and the counseling organization and he legal service providers are aware of the ordinance and send people to us all the time >> okay. great. do you have questions i have a few others >> so like commissioner rosales

i'm trying to understand the program. and so you're saying it is not going to apply to new housing can you explain that further >> well, it applies to null built housing only 20 percent of the units. >> only 20 percent. >> will be set aside. >> i mean say there's a building that has one hundred affordable units two scenarios one building with one hundred units and others certificate holders no certificate holders will get into the building our first priority is the c i p certificate holder but if we have a hundred units and set aside 20 and is there are 40 ellis act people for the 20

units there will be a loiter, of course, for those and they'll fill the 20 units and the rest will have to go back spot general population lottery and take their chances. >> and the second. >> that was the second if there's more cop holders then the ellis act don't get none but. >> but if no one qualify you can too the next holders. >> yes. >> i see what you're saying. so you said there were to day 8 hundred really you only issued 82 you did refer this to the

outreach other than through community organizations attorneys there's really no disconcert outreach >> the most important outreach when those people get their lecture notice their finding about the preference because very there to inform them. >> the landlord has to to the tenants there's this program you may not be to quality for . >> they a have a certainty amount of time. >> what's the average. >> you know what vanessa. help me out how long do they have once they get their notice of intent before they have to be out? >> so they have a little bit of

time and look for another. >> - and enter the lotteries we find they're entering the lotteries. >> they have to qualify for all the requirements. >> exactly just like the cop people. >> if they don't qualify for the next one they can apply again. >> yes. until they use the certificate. >> it's only used ones either a rental or purchase. >> we're applying they wrote into the owners it is part of the down payment assistance home if they want to use the down payment assistance we'll give them the priority in the funded. so >> that's a lot of handholding you have to do well, right now you have 82 that could increase.

>> the 82 is probably we've only been in business since april. so i think that is going to be the biggest push there were a lot of people waiting for this. we were told to go back to january 1st, 2012, toe people that were evicted back that far so, you know, we had a waiting list of like about 40 people 0 who were waiting for the program that had already been evicted since april. on an ongoing basis there are not will like next year we'll not see 82 people with the requested certificates it's gng to slow down if we had 10 a month that will be a lot

>> i have some more questions i want to understand the numbers whether 82 or 10 we're not talking about individuals but households. >> we're talking about individuals because we're counting the individual certificates but those individuals might be part of a households that's moved in. >> like a family. >> absolutely. a parent with kids absolutely. do we know when we say 10 participants that is 10 households >> well, we, found out that's very good. roadway it is 10 certificate holders but we can easily find out how many people are in the households >> yeah. because the others issue i read the attachment that

came from the planning department and i don't know if you can speak to this but what jumped out at me on 5 it says on november 5, 2013, mow cd has conducted 7 lotteries in 2013 including 7 lotteries for 3 thousand applicants only 17 with or cop holders for the unites when i looked at the 17 and hear of the number you've he presented 17 hundred it's kind of raises in my mind a small percentage of cop holders are partnering and why is that. and then i don't will i support of the ellis act i'm worried about that that the ellis act preference came in practical terms trumpet the cop program

>> yeah. but it won't. >> why. (laughter) here we go. so without giving you a full report on cop stuff we're looking forward to providing for you soon. the cop holders that we are working with and brooke barker is here. there are various reasons why they won't prefor one property or qualify for individual properties. and some of it is eligibility some of that at the don't meet the developers eligibility criteria. and others have preference or choice they don't want to apply for some of the inclusionary opportunities that are

available. we can - we are working on creating eligibility requirements that are across the board in the mayor's office of housing and community development properties. right now we have biscuits of affordable housing inclusionary heirs and we have the nonprofit developer driven one hundred percent affordable housing. and there are different eligibility requirements for each type of housing. our cop holders we find that they meet the requirements regarding income where you're going to take thirty percent of their income for sustainable

rents. often those eligibility requirements are toucher in those buildings than in an inclusionary housing building. anecdotally i don't have the data on it >> yeah. >> we're working on that. >> thank you. >> we're working on e-cigarette that it is more consistent across affordable housing the eligibility requirements. >> do you think that this low level of participation is there like a chilling factor people are getting tired there's seven hundred people or seven hundred households and 17 and last year participate in the available lotteries there were not many is it fatigue because they're not folks are not getting in its why bother. >> possibly for some but others

it's waiting for the right opportunities. >> ize okay. >> and the right neighborhoods. so but there's no guarantee >> there's no gee it's a lottery and by the cop holders it's a guarantee if you got your eggs in a right now sorry ducks in a row eggs in a basket. your - you are going to be they're not limit in the amount of units that will hold for a cop all 10 are going to get the units if there's 10 >> they have to qualify. >> and this so keep qualifying. >> that's why the marketing and preparation and the outreach and the preparation for the actual

competition people are prequalified and ready so if the opportunity arises. >> the fact we've gotten 38 new certificates this year and half the year speaks to the fact that the program is still alive and well and people are applying and the word of mouth and they're looking forward to it their existed about it when they apply and some of them express you don't i didn't think i'd use this but this is my guarantee when my family left i'm able to come back when any family left. we're working on marketing consistent across the different level of affordable housing and

as well as the eligibility remits i think one of the things jeff spoke to the earlier in his presentation we're working with our development partners to start marketing a little bit earlier maybe a lot earlier. and marketing in phases so the first phases you get the word out there and work with community development organization to help people get ready for an opportunity coming in a year or 18 months they have more time when the active marketing season starts they're there >> and we'll commitment looking forward to giving you a more independent reports on the obstacles and things we're

seeing. >> looking forward it it. the only other point i know that one of the recommendations so to have the board of supervisors with respect to a review, you know, program after 3 years there's so many change in the last 3 years i think that 3 years is too long to have a report i prefer to have more regular reporting to make sure when you can about the problems you can nip them >> that's right. >> so what i have review period can we say- >> we planned to go back to the board after a year. >> okay. >> just to report and then actually do a program evaluation so it's an annual reporting but a review of the whole program. >> that's fine. >> it's basically, it's got a

potential sunset. >> yeah. if it's perfect and the rent is fair and yeah. - >> what is is dream on or what is the saying. >> you never know ducks in a row. >> if after 3 years still they're not self-eviction what are we going to do. >> we'll keep on giving people preferences i guess and we'll hopefully there will be some in the next 3 years some legislation fix on the state level that will addresses what's happening. in some way i hope. yeah, that was going to be one of my questions about sxhart len

these efforts it fell short of mark unfortunately >> any more questions. >> no. >> just a clarification commissioner rosales if i heard i cringe upper open and academy able to the class to include in the in addition to the 3 years review in the report whether to extend modify or cancel the program so we as we've heard it we can include that. >> yes. >> i don't know robert do there need to be a motion and second to change the clause. >> yes. >> to make it annual. it's an annual report niendz the 3 year review. so do we propose that i'm shooum u assuming we have a motion with the proposed amendment

>> yeah. you could do that. >> can i make the motion. i move that we adapt the resolution with modification to the result clause to read resolve that the office of community from and infrastructure shall annually report okay. he let me see off the top shall review the application under this resolution within 3 years of its adaptation subject to annual an annual report or an annual staff report. that's not very articulate but i'm trying to get the report in before the final review any help council.

hopefully. >> how about steadfast following an annual staff and i'm sorry you you've got to speak up. >> years of adoption following the annual staff report or after the annual staff report. >> yes. that works after the word adaptation after is staffer report. >> so within 3 years of its adaptation comma after the staff report comma to extend of adapt it. i make the motion >> it's been seconded by commissioner singh. please call roll >> commissioner annunciation our vote. commissioner mondejar. commissioner singh. commissioner rosales. madam chair the vote is 3 i's >> excellent. thank you. >> thank you.

next item, please. >> the next order of business item 6 public comment on non-agenda items. madam chair >> any speaker cards. >> a no one. any members of the public that wish to address the commission on matters of public comment >> i'm sorry yes. i noticeed that the slink age of the members. >> we went on a diet. >> did the mayor wish to appoint anymore. also i notice on the looking on the forward calendar nothing mentioned about the very important senate bill 1404 that relates to the issues you've talked about housing. this is quite interesting and

quite how can i put it in a way that we the community have to lobby not in this hall but in the state capitol with governor jerry brown because it looks like he'll be around if for the fourth time in a row but audio effectively this 1404 obviously is going to be in the business of mayor ed lee and what he's doing now but the bottom line i think there should be a special hearing on this in the community for which this impacts the communities. on another keynote i'm sure you're aware of check our history i've been here requesting this commission come to the western edition to talk about the obligation and it's been i don't know why