recommendation you find or the staff finds a reason to find fault and if you think it's at fault and you acknowledge the fact that part of the responsibilities as a body is the enforcement of the sunshine ordinance then i would think that there would be a moral imperative to do something to get together with the task force and come down with something meaningful where you can do something instead of these pointless arguments whether they charge the right person or crossed the right t or .ed the i and the issue is let them go to public meetings and let them speak and i went to the police commission and told by the the president you're not allowed to talk about certain things. i was told the same thing by the president of the arts commission. and the library

commission and they all knew it wasn't true but they did it anyway. why? because they got away with it because they knew it would go to the task force and for some reason you want people to believe that the sunshine ordinance task force is a group that doesn't know what they're doing and you're more clever than they are because you can find a way there is something they did in some way that made it wrong and you're unwilling to do anything to correct the situation and there's never anything on this report that indicates you ever will. >> david pilpel again speaking as an idea. the report is good, comprehensive as usual. i think it would be helpful for the next few months up to the november

election to include a category here for public financing. i believe there is only one candidate qualified but i think reporting on payments under the finance program would serve the public's interest and if there is anything else to report on the disclosure for november. i anticipate a lot of activity for . >> candidates and ballot measures and heightly contested so if you can provide that in addition to the website and the dashboard with all of that that would be helpful. thank you very much. >> all right. turning to agenda item number eight. items for future meetings? commissioners have any items that they would propose for future agenda? >> well, i am a newer commissioner so hearing from the public how often we talked

about the commission and the sunshine ordinance task force is talked about this referral process i am wondering if we just can't have a conversation about it, and see if we can get to the bottom of it because in less than six months we had this issue come up twice and i feel like we never get to the actual substantive component of what is being brought before us because we're busy trying to figure out who to attribute it to, the violation. >> unfortunately chairperson hur isn't here but he would indicate we talked about possibly doing that and he indicated he would schedule something before the end the year we would have that discussion. >> is it possible to have a joint meeting with the sunshine ordinance task force? >> it's been done but they're difficult to schedule. >> could you try?

>> of course. >> i speak for myself. i don't know whether my colleagues would also be in favor of that. >> well, we had joint meetings with them. i certainly wouldn't oppose another to see if we can smooth out some of the problems. i guess one of the questions i have though a lot of the procedural things we deal with i would assume that the city attorney who is advising the sunshine ordinance task force is dealing with those problems. >> well, we heard tonight that whoever that person is -- >> we don't know. we have hear say about it. >> the hear say indicated that the advice given was not the greatest advice in the world. >> i guess i could ask the

city attorney do you think it would be beneficial to have a meeting -- >> you weren't here when -- >> i apologize i wasn't here. >> -- for the counsel assigned by the attorney to for the sunshine ordinance task force meeting with that representative to find out who that -- we had two cases in the last months that have come up where the sunshine task force has charged the department head even though in the proceedings the department head was never named but gets named or she gets named in the referral up to us, and then the question comes what is the due process? the department heads never had a chance to respond to it. all of the

people responding are people below them and the argument is made with some merit that the department head is responsible for the people working for him, but insofar as dealing with the task force the task force has never confronted that issue and we're making a finding against the department head for this reason. simply finds there is a violation and names the department head at the end of the game and not the beginning so what i think commissioner andrews and we're talking about is there some way that we can smooth out, so that we don't have the procedural problems to deal with but dealing with the substance of the complaint. >> right. deputy city attorney. i wasn't here for tonight's sunshine referral but was it represented during that matter that they had weighed in

on that issue? >> it was represented that the deputy city attorney at the time with the task force advised the task force to name the particular underlings in the department as being the responsible ones for the violation, and that's what they did and i see in the language itself of the ordinance it says specifically that the underlings cannot be held to be the responsible parties. it says that. that the responsible party is the department head, so then at some point it's understood with this well, we should really name the department head and the representatives of that department come here before us and say you're violating due process. our department head is just named now at this stage of

the proceedings after the task force has already made a finding of the violation relating to those underlings and he was never named so we had it twice. we dealt with this tonight but last time we punted it. we shouldn't have. >> sounds like an issue that came up several times and certainly in conjunction with a future agenda item on this issue i am happy to coordinate with my office and get to the bottom of this. i am certainly happy to do that whenever this is calendared. >> i would recommend that we consider putting how the staff -- how we want to address the agenda item, but you know what the problem is we want to try to resolve and see what is the most sensible way to resolve it and put it on an agenda item and

take public comment on it. >> yes. >> and get comment from the sunshine task force. all right. yes? >> [inaudible] jack, do you keep a record of requests or recommendations that we make? >> yes. . >> microphone please. >> do you keep a record of requests and recommendations for future agenda items? >> >> yes. >> because i think we made recommendations at different times and i would like to see what those are and know when they're agendized. >> they're agenda diezed at the discretion of the chair but i can go back and look and see what's out there. >> all right. is there a

motion to adjourn? >> you have to have public comment on this item. >> all right. public comment on the discussion that we just had? >> new agenda. >> ray hart. i will keep repeating it. i would like my case against louis herrera brought back before the commission. i filed another complaint against him for the same exact reason so i don't think the task force having decided he was in violation. you unanimously -- well, not unanimously. mr. pilpel voted against it, will have problems getting it back here. the bottom line is mr. herrera as i talked about this oofng evening hid funds he was receiving from

friends of the library and gifts he knew he had to report and we had to take him to the f bbc in sacramento and find him in violation and he's a convicted perjurer and said he got nothing when he got $5,000 a year and he lied to your faces and you don't seem to be worried about that at all. he told you this isn't a first amendment issue and it's always been from the 150 word summaries they started six years ago to telling people they weren't allowed to talk about certain things at library commission meetings to our criticism of the financial relationship with the friends and with holding documents and using the public position as city librarian to violate the law and with holding documents for more than two years. hi t -- i had to go to the

superintendent of records twice and found in violation of the task force for not doing their job and says if they don't comply it's supposed to be sent to the district attorney or the attorney general and they pretend like that isn't happening so basically what i am saying is this is not the first time you've had a case against the library commission or somebody with the library that was referred here. this is the fifth time and every single time you have found a way not to have a hearing or to find the person not in violation, and i have to ask you honestly do you want the public to believe that the sunshine ordinance task force is so inept and vote five times that the person is in violation, order them to follow it and they not follow it and refer to you and every damn time you find a

way of kicking it out. the reason i think you do that is because of what happened to jewel gomez that you recommended unanimously she be removed to the mayor and he ignored you. it's hard to have authority when the person you recommend to ignores your recommendation. doesn't even give you an answer. >> and if you have refiled your complaint and it comes back to us i assure you there will be a hearing and you will be present. >> [inaudible] >> it's awfully racist of you. >> [inaudible] >> mr. pilpel. >> david pilpel again speaking as an individual. just as clarification yes, there have

been joint meetings between the commission and the task force in the past. there can be in the future and i believe one that one of the grand jury findings and recommendation i believe number 20, talked about the relationship between the task force and the commission so you might address it in part to the responses to the grand jury report if you intend to do something in the future you could indicate in your responses that the task force is certainly considering the responses to that grand jury report as well. thank you. >> thank you. now can i have a motion for adjournment. >> i move for adjournment. >> second. >> all in favor? opposed? stand adjourned. [gavel]

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>> good afternoon, everyone. this is a pretty thrilling day that for us it's another milestone in the progress of connecting the great city of san francisco from one end to another about economics development and about clean environment, pittsburgh that's about building consensus i'm sure the mayor will agree he served as the che administration officer it to took years to get this to a third street rail of central subway thousands even if hours of volunteers coming together to make their point of view known. we've been here 5 wants on the total of this project but making

progress again and every step of the way all along i'll say whoever we were appealing to our hopes are riding on the third street rail and our hopes on the street subway for all to be a model to the country of economic development while we improve the quality of life and sflrs customers and create good paying jobs that's today is a sad day because of the loss of robin williams i was oncoming over mayor we were together in 2012 with another phase we are that altogether with ray la hood the secretary of transportation and while we were listening to each other's speeches we were on our i preponderance watching the last of the games to dorm who would be in the playoffs and

while we were celebrating the; correct construction we were cheering the victory of the giants that day to go on to the world series and robin williams was a great giant fan my daughter christine right-minded me in after 2001 that was by and large the first time god bless america took place some may have done is but a tradition across our country and robin williams was a great giants fan but in 2004 he sank god bless america urging the 7th ending stretch we've lost a genius and san francisco has lost a great friend we made contributions to

life. two weeks ago on the steps of the k358 the democrats launched the jump start to create good paying jobs in our country a rock the entrepreneurship begins in the classroom to make college affordable and early child onsite hood evaluation affordable and in some ways when with yes, ma'am succeeds america succeeds a version of growing the economy by this each week this week is make that on america where we say we want american made companies invest in good paying jobs here in america by removing tax credits to send jobs overseas what is

what the law is now, it's ridiculous we want to over turn that with the savings we want to invest in building america and building the infrastructure and that means roads and brigades and cr=certainly mass transit and water supply and broad band the infrastructure of the future so this the the job the parlor we're sthifls all over the country what better place to start where the innovation has begun it's begun with the consensus over time with the community involvement i've said to the city i want to give you every option but if we allocate the sources we need the dirt to underlie this consensus building over time has been very, very central to our success and, of

course, the recovery act that president obama took the lead on made a difference in getting hundreds and hundreds of million dollars nearly a billion dollars for the completion of the project while it started local it was local and state funding under the leadership of the leaders today, i'm honored to be here with the mayor how important this jump start for the class is and how important building infrastructure is to the jump start. roadway there's a installing felt be middle-class because of the stalling of those kinds of initiatives h initiates we want it to be non-barn we know the american people overwhelmingly support an nishlt that improves the quality of life and to get the products to and from work

and employees to and from home and again to clean and protect the virnlt as we create jobs we have have to build consensus i salute the people in san francisco for the rolls they've played over the years really decades to make many of the projects that are emerging now projects so that's consecutively the quail valley and hunters point and the transbay terminal with the enter connections with the parkway and the longtime in the planning and consensus building many of them possible because of president obama recognition this buildings infrastructure of america is essential to growing our economy with that, i'm pleased to give this podium oh, by the way, did i introduce thomas and paling their construction is they're

game they know about machinery i don't know about their teaching me and wanted to see how it's going my grandchildren from new york. they've ridden on the subway they wanted to see how one is built in california had a they're my special vip pits i've said his role as mayor and the chevy administration officer knows how to get the job done an operational manager it's not mystery i continued the great work of the previous mayors but he was effective working with the mayors before so thank you that mayor for honoring us with your leadership i yield to the

that distinguished mayor >> (clapping) >> thank you leader pelosi and it's a delight to have you here also with those young kids michael i think we can get him a my own card right-of-way. i'm delighted i know leader pelosi is absolutely right and chosen one of the most exemplar projects certainly our city has seen here today with the san francisco mta xhishsz, the planning commission folks and our sf leader katie is here as well its a milestone after milestone when in the backdrop the central subway project is so important i remember leader pelosi when we began this conversation in the early years really to trying to figurou