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this meeting back to order. the historic preservation. >> city clerk: good afternoon. we are back in order. please silence all cell phones and when speaking please speak directly into microphone and please state your name for the record. we are on item 9. item 9: brown: 4155 575-90744 landmark designation work program - informational presentation regarding three recent community-initiated nominations for landmark designation pursuant to article 10 of the planning code. this informational item was calendared at the hpc's request following public comment at its regularly scheduled hearing on june 18, 2014 in support of article 10 designation of 182-198 gough street, the r. l. goldberg building. this item also includes information pertaining to two additional properties recently nominated by the community for article 10 landmark designation. sf 91234 >> good afternoon, commissioners, mary brand department staff. i'm here to discuss issues nominated, 182, 198 gough street. it was commissioned by the

pulitzer prize cartoonist goldberg and rl goldberg building. the building was included in 1976 architectural district the building was never evaluated for individual eligibility or association with goldberg. based on initial review the building may qualify due to significant artful expression and building containing rare historying store fronts and may qualify based on the connection to goldberg. a san francisco native and member of the locally prominent jewish family. he began working for the san francisco chronicle. the cartoonist stayed in the

building and used it as a studio during his frequent visits to san francisco. the association with goldberg including his occasional use of the building including his long tenure use of the city requires significant review. this document the lends and as well as identify other entities. included in the case report an additional communication to the commissioners are letters of support for designation from the long time residential tenants jackie taylor who nominated the building for landmark status and supervisors linden breed and the city has hired a landmark designation report. last week i spoke with ken

hersh, the building's owner and received more information about the building as well as his preference the building not be landmarked. >> the second recent nomination for landmark status is the old lady's home. an assisted living facity in the potrero neighborhood. it was defined by the coffee -- and construct in 1932. the building replaces the circa 1980 building. in june a nearby resident submitted an application nominated the home and followed up by submitting a petition to preserving the building. this morning i received a letter from

david campos to support the landmark designation. >> based on initial review, the building may qualify for local designation for it's architectural significance and an appears to be relative to data construction. more data and couples to is necessary for eligibility for landmark status as a charitable significance or for potential significance for pioneer california an fill -- philanthropy. finally the landmark was also designated for landmark designation.

the exhibition of queenian. it replaces the family's earlier farm house moved to the dairy in the 1970s. the was located in an area. the building was included in several recent historic buildings and 1986 architectural is survey. early july a nearby resident requested the building be designated as a local landmark and provided it's history with association with the family. based on the review the building may qualify which appears architecturally significant. the building may also qualify due to its association with the

pioneering language -- lang and connected. this morning i received a letter of support for designation from a member of the public. in the case report are several options for the hpc to consider including add anything or all of the properties to the landmark designation program. requesting more information from project applicants and directing staff to prioritize any or all of these properties over all the properties on the work program. this concludes my presentation and i'm available for questions. >> thank you. commissioners, do we have any questions for staff at this time? >> i just have a point of order. we talking about all of these three at the same time. should we split out the carl street property so mr. pearlman can participate too. >> why don't we take 1 first.

until we officially recuse him, right. exactly. i thought he was taking a break. >> while we got him here. let's get the other two done and then we'll ge getd you recused. so any public speaker. we'll take this one at a time. public speaking we'll hold the call until the end for public speaking. i have several speaker cards.

we are starting in order with the gough street property and first is beverly upton. >> good afternoon commissioners, i'm happy to be here today and see that we are making progress. i'm joined by my neighbor, jackie nailer. we are excited because the project is moving forward and attention is being and focused on this beautiful building. we were so worried about it's future and happy to have been it's tenant for almost 25 years. we are excited . we brought almost everything new we

have one more new letter. we would like to and this supervisor breed and paul henderson, jennifer george, and so we put them altogether in a new packet for the commissioners so you would have the most up to date letters. i think there is a couple new once in there. with that, we are very excited to see this moving forward. as you will remember when we were here before we brought you some information and photos on the inside and outside of the bg blg. then this last time we were here we caught about goldberg's daughter, doing a designs and jewelry in her efforts to secure and expert to do the report on our building. so that's our next step now is to start working with our expert. swoe that -- so with that i will turn

it with jackie nay ler who has been in this building for 25 years. >> thank you so much and thank you for your continued consideration of this beautiful building . we really appreciate it. last time as beverly said we had for members of the community press and our civic leaders to raise awareness for the building. the chronicle will be doing a story later this month which will come out in the pink section which is exciting. we were able to raise funds to hire architectural historian to complete the landmark report. after much consideration we selected yarbrough with ics international and with that i just want to introduce

edward yarbrough. >> that is an order wechlt normally don't do public comment this way. it just happens to be in order. your time will start now. >> very good, thank you. i have had an initial inspection of the property and want to focus on the integrity. it's really a remarkable building. the two commercial spaces upstairs have been intentionally preserved from the period from when rue goldberg lived and her father and me , a mural by diego rivera. three commercial buildings downstairs with very high integrity. the list of character

defining features that are typically missing and scene some of our better preserved buildings that are still present in this building is remarkable. some secondary associations that i think that make this even more stand out beyond what we know about rue goldberg association there are his father again, max goldberg who is a sheriff in san francisco and then also there is initial evidence that the bay area reporter, the first lgbt publication in the west was initiated in beverly unit. so they may have associations with that thematically which is a thematic theme historying -- historic building in san francisco. i just started and there is

lots of work but thank you very much for hearing about this wonderful resource. >> ms. can yus. >> good afternoon, my name is anna can yus. my home has been in hayes valley and with hayes value continuing to grow, i live right next store with a five 5 story building. it's i mperative, that we conserve our cultural heritage of these types of buildings in san francisco. assets such as this goldberg building, there has been a lot of discussion about creating community as i have sat here and listened until the opportunity to speak and i think this is an amazing opportunity to knit together historical and

contemporary in one community. so that it reflects not only the diversity, rather this will reflect not only the diversity of san francisco as a people, but also reflection in it's building as well creating this environment. so thank you. >> mr. yelleda? >> good afternoon, commissioner. as you know, i'm retired civil engineer. today i'm here with regard to university ladies home 350 university street. this building was built in 1930. this historic building is home for seniors in san francisco district. once founded in 1884 with

$100,000 and benefactors of late observatory to provide assisted living for both women and men of motion tion modest mean. this is designed by san francisco jay risk and it's features at george an revival exterior the spanish colonial style especially in the common areas such and front and chapel and dining room. this building has all the significant architectural features as a historic building and i'm asking you to apply for it as a historic building. thank you.

>> thank you, any other member of the public wish to speak on either of the gough street property or university property. at this time we'll interrupt public comment if we can get a motion to recuse. >> why don't we do a discussion on this almost and come back. >> yeah. good idea. i will close public comment for now. we'll come back to it. we'll recuse commissioner pearlman. any other member of the public? we'll close public comment at this time and bring it back to commission. commissioners? mr. frye? >> commissioners, tim frye, staff department. one issue on the goldberg building, staff understand the significance of some of the interiors and the high level integrity on the interior of the

building. however our code is rather limited in what we can designate in private interiors. generally we are limited to only publically accessible areas such as commercial spaces, lobby, etc. while the commission want to pursue landmark designation we have to look at areas that are identified as protected in certain sense as required a certificate of appropriateness. there may be other features of the building but they may not be protected by the designation in the future. just wanted to let you know that while you are considering that property. >> commissioner pearlman? >> that was one of my questions. but, i do want to just reiterate, i said this before. i grew up. my father knew all about rue

goldberg and i saw a lot of the drawings and -- rue goldberg is something that touched my family. i'm excited about this particular building. i'm hoping we'll be able to get the information from the historian and move this as quickly as we can. on the other one, i don't know the building. i haven't had a chance but i will go out and take a look and look forward to learning more about it and expanding our landmark program. >> commissioners, any other comments? >> commissioner johnck? >> i do think we need more information about these two properties so that we can proceed in a way that is as thorough as we have done in the past.

>> commissioner hyland? >> i had a question for staff 689 -- the future action, is this informational item only and the future action what will come before us again once we or can we decide toed to add these? >> you can decide to add today. in the past you have added property to the landmark program without a resolution. >> commissioner johnck? >> i guess, more on that. so we have this information and then what more work would be needed? yes, more information, but compared to other buildings on the landmark program. we just had a couple meetings ago. >> my understanding that the rue goldberg building the consultant will

fast track the report and have it ready in december and bring it to the commission as soon as possible. for the other building, the ladies home, there is very little historical information beyond the general outline that i provided. so a landmark designation report would be required. if the commission is interested to add it to the work program that could be added to the cue. there is approximately 15 or 16 buildings currently on the work program and the commission could prioritize it or not on the work program. >> okay. and while you are at the mic, are either, are there any projects coming forward on either of these addresses? >> not that i am aware of. >> okay. commissioner hyland? >> i just have a concern and that is that, i'm totally in support of adding

any appropriate project to the landmarks program, but we don't seem to have enough resources in order to process these and just learning today that we did not get the one head count in order to pursue this forward. do we need to agenda ized further discussion to have a further conversation about moving this forward. we have made several projects on landmark but they have been initiated. we need some resources to identify this progress. >> mr. frye and i have spoken on this previously outside of this chamber in how do we track and follow our monthly allocation, and what i always worry about is that we have staff that is doing both active, private

enterprise projects as well as landmark background research for the work program. and, everyone is hot to get these other projects done because there is a time issue for our sponsor but then our history k program sort lags because there is not on the front burner if you will. i think we do need to come up with a way, is it that one staff person has pulled and put per quarter through one work program or like one 1 year? what is that? we need in put the from staff on that so how do we do it so one 1 person is totally focused for a good period of time just on the landmark program. i think that's the only way we are going to roll this off this program and going forward because right now we keep adding to it and we are

not adding enough to be taken off it. >> we have one fte. >> not added but under prehistory k landmark designation is one. >> that's right. it's not one dedicated person. it's through a several members of our is survey. they are also working on is survey, historic preservation historic committee, there is a wide variety of other commitments aside from designation. >> currently how do we split this us? is there a certain number of hours that we are doing towards the work program that we track or anything like that? how are we doing this now in >> we are tracking it through the quarterly reports that you receive and as mary went through the quarterly report in july we have

identified some new performance measures to help that we will be showing you at the next or the first quarter now that we are in the new fiscal year which i think we will be bringing that in the first nearing october, middle of september. the next hearing september 17th we'll share those performance measures with you and see how the commission would like to track this fte in the future and maybe we can have a discussion about how that fte is allocated. one small comment that i have regarding these proposals here is like other permit review or other time sensitive review, we may want to capitalize on the momentum that these projects have already gained considering we have support from a