Skip to main content

tv   [untitled]    August 28, 2014 6:00am-6:31am PDT

6:00 am
limit the hours of entertainment. entertainment should be allowed only 11:00 p.m. sunday through thursday and midnight friday and saturday. i would like to limit -- >> [inaudible] >> okay. so live entertainment -- no, that's all entertainment until -- i would like to limit all entertainment until 11:30 p.m. sunday through thursday and until 1230 on friday and saturday. i would like to limit live entertainment only to the weekends with stuffed drums. i would like to limit the volume and the sound may not exceed 70 megahertz. >> base.
6:01 am
>> base. base -- not to exceed 70 megahertz. >> [inaudible] >> tell me again. >> so to take out all frequencies below 70 megahertz. >> great. so to take out -- >> [inaudible] >> all frequencies below 70 megahertz. requiring a security guard outside the establishment during hours of entertainment. no activity outdoor. no bands or musicians playing outdoors. providing an entertainment calendar to the sfpd, neighbors and the entertainment commission every month, no third party promoters and requiring essential sound proofing specifically baffle the vent on the roof and the sky
6:02 am
lights. so i would like to make that motion. >> question? will your weekend include holidays? >> sure. we can change that to weekends and holidays. >> question. >> we need to second the motion. >> i second the motion. >> thank you. now the matter is with the commission and if there are other -- commissioner akers. >> there was a suggestion to increase the number of security guards from 100 -- from one to 100 from one to 50. >> you know and i was thinking one to 75 might be. would you be okay with that? adding the condition that there is one security guard for every 75 patrons. >> and we can add that to the motion or do you have to read it over again? >>i will accept it. do we have
6:03 am
to read it over again? >> [inaudible] >> okay. >> another question. are we giving them a probation period or is this set in stone? >> that's a good question. >> that is a good question. i think this is very limiting but i think there is a reason it's very limiting and so i would like to say in three months that they could come back to commission and see how far that they have gone if that is okay because if they knuckle down for three months then i think they should be able to continue to operate and have some of the restrictions lifted depending on which ones are followed correctly. >> maybe add one more. >> okay. >> sound checks outside. can we require that at all? just random checks in the neighborhood? >> from our staff or from them?
6:04 am
>> from them, self managing. >> yes. >> just a point of order and i do this every time you have these conversations. as commissioners can impose almost anything you want but if it's hard or impossible for staff to enforce the knsz they don't amount to much so i rather you think how to phrase the conditions such a way we're capable of checking whether they are in violation or not. >> so may i ask staff so far other than the asking them to check the meters outside are there other conditions you would call into question like i was wondering if we can check on stuffed drums? is that -- >> in my opinion the easiest way for us to marriage this base issue is for you to put it in terms of not allowing base to escape if there is direction with respect to sound
6:05 am
mitigations that we can do that without putting that specificity in the permit than ultimately what we're after and check whether base is escaping and does that make sense? >> yes. >> turn it something like that opposed to specific remedies that could change depending on operations in the club. >> but they have been told over and over again by us that it is escaping, so even though they don't ambliifiy the drums it escapes. it's a drum. >> and the direction to sound proof the roof i think you're getting to the same end. >> okay. >> and proscriptive of stuffing drums is very hard for our staff. >> okay. >> got you. all right. >> let's redo this. >> do you want me to read it back?
6:06 am
>> yes please. >> the conditions are to limit the howfers entertainment -- actually just a note. if i recall correctly when we had a similar incident with brick and mortar we limited the hours until the adequate sound proofing was achieved so it wasn't a designated time and until it was achieved. >> and we went over to check to make sure. >> so in this one i believe this is until the sound proofing achieved and limit the hours until 1130 on sunday to thursday and limit live entertainment to fridays saturdays and holidays to 12:30 p.m.. limit -- >> 12:30 a.m. >> thank you. and then sound levels, decibels levels might
6:07 am
not exceed 90. have the limiter take out all base frequency below 70 megahertz. require additional security per 75 patrons and post security outside during entertainment. no entertainment out doors. club malibu must provide entertainment calendar to sfpd and neighbors and the entertainment commission every month and require additional sound proofing to baffle the lights and the eventing on the roof. >> thank you very much. yes commissioner. >> one thing we're changing the one security guard per hundred people by this possible conscience i have here. says club occupancy is 200 so it's not going to up any security if it's one in 75 if the club
6:08 am
maximum is 200. i mean maybe if we did one to 60 if we're looking for another security guard and another thing on that line when one of the owners up here they talked about the people having a guard card and part of the security thing but we heard from her and the different jobs at the club i want to make sure the security guard is a security guard and not a bartender with a card doing a dual job. >> i have a question. so it's one security guard for up to 75 people so that the first 150 are two people and wouldn't the other then 50 require a third guard? >> yes. >> okay. >> thank you for the explanation on that one. >> okay. >> thank you. >> so then it would be three. >> right, you are correct. >> yeah. >> so i think we have a motion
6:09 am
and a second on the table and i think we're ready for roll call. >> all right. on the motion with all of those conditions that i just read. commissioner perez. >> aye. >> commissioner akers. >> aye. >> commissioner joseph. >> aye. >> commissioner lee. >> aye. >> commissioner frost. >> aye. >> and vice president hide. >> aye. >> motion carries. [gavel] okay so next on the agenda --y. -- >> yeah next we will do hearing and possible action regarding applications for permits under the jurisdiction of the entertainment commission. the first is andrea minoo doing business as at limbo and place of entertainment and they appreciate another business on folsom and working last renovating the space and has been in communication with several of the adjacent neighbors and reached out to
6:10 am
organizations around the neighborhood. mission station has no objections and there are conditions in the binder. >> hello thank you for having us. okay. so my partner and i took over espin notchy at the beginning of march and operated for a couple of months and closed at the end of april for renovations and construction. >> you can continue. we're listening to you up here. >> okay. yeah so it's been under construction. we renovated the entire thing and basically took it down to the studs and been a long and delayed process, but we're moving along estimated six to
6:11 am
eight weeks opening. >> so do we have any questions for the applicants? >> what are you going to do there? it's a neighborhood bar. lounge comfortable drinking beers, beer cocktail, wine, wine on tap. no permanent daily dj. we would like the option of having djs for special events and private parties, for office parties or birthday parties and stuff like that. we're just planning on using an ipod or pandora in the interim. >> any live music? >> no. >> great. >> thank you. >> so i would like to ask about your community outreach that you have done for this permit. >> yes, i reached out -- i got a list from officer parker. i emailed everyone in the
6:12 am
neighborhood. i got suggestions from cammy blackstone about who to email. i emailed and called anyone in the vicinity and no one got back to me and she said do what you can and i have copies of the emails if you like but no one responded. >> have you gone to any business organizations or in the neighborhood to present? >> i have gone around and introduced myself and just said hello to the other bar owners and some of the clothe stores i am already familiar with so i went around and the restaurants. i am a regular in the neighborhood for a long time so it's me. i just bought the place and we're going to redo it but outside of that no but i have given everyone my contact info and while we were open for
6:13 am
the two months i had my cards behind the car. a lot of communication was around the art work in the area and people wanting it and the previous owners own today but that was the only communication we got for relics from the bar that didn't belong to us. >> did you get the willing of suggested -- >> yes, i did and i contacted five or six people -- several times by the way and not just once. i followed up and hey it's me again. i wasn't sure what to do. i talked to cammy about it. i was next about it. i. >> >> told officer parker and she said if they're not getting back to you what -- >>i wanted to make sure -- >> yeah, yeah, for sure. >> that's fine with me. if others don't want to engage you that's their problem. thank you. >> thank you. commissioner akers.
6:14 am
>> yeah just a question so the email thaws sent out to the other businesses it was informing them about the permit application and what the entertainment is going to be like? >> >> well not specifically about the entertainment license. more we're in the neighborhood. we. to know how we can help with the community and get involved with the community and outreach and become more involved with the local presence as we're new to the neighborhood and excited to be part of the neighborhood. that's it. the sign has been up for a long time. i kept delaying it because no one got back to me. i didn't from anyone and i didn't know what to do and i emailed them again. >> i am cal hutchins, one of the owners and it's not really a change that is happening there. it was a bar with music. it's going to be a bar with music.
6:15 am
they had live music. >> yes. one thing that we suggest with the specifically with the out reach that it's a notification of what the entertainment permit is asking for, so it's great to say i'm the new owner and here i am, but that is specifically asked, so it would be good to see your emails. >> sure. specifically asking what the entertainment permits specifically -- >> saying we are going to be having djs on occasional weekends. >> yeah. well and in our opinion we're not -- we want it for the occasional dj, a couple times a year. >> okay. >> it's not something we want to do on a regular basis because it's too many money and hassle frankly so we want to have the option to do without paying the
6:16 am
one off which just if we do it two, three timings a year covers the cost so there's that. we don't plan on having live music. we have the option to for a private event. it's not something we want to organize or set up. >> i think what she is trying to say if i might that she's doing less intensive type of activeity in the space that was known for a lot of live music and activity around it so maybe that's where the intention of the reach out is done. >> yeah. i am happy to redo any of that or let people know it's far more low key kind of vibe. an ipod and a bar. that's it for the most part. >> commissioner perez. >> thanks for coming in. >> thank you. >> would you consider having an
6:17 am
open house and having the community come in. >> absolutely. it's a neighborhood invite, softd opening schedule for the neighborhood merchants and neighbors. >> by that time you can talk about the type of entertainment you plan to have. >> sure. >> and have a sign in list. >> mailing list, yeah, that's all in the plan. >> okay. thank you. >> are there any other questions from the commission at this time? all right. great. thank you very much. we're going to hear from -- you're going to take a seat and we're going to hear from the police. >> it's been so long. >> hi. welcome back. >> this thing isn't long enough. >> [inaudible] >> going with it. >> you have to lean into it. >> lean in. >> lean in. >> okay. we will start over. avery parker mission police
6:18 am
station. i met with the applicant who is the female proprietor, not the male tall guy, several times regarding the site revamp specification. i've also looked into their operations at wish because they have owned wish i think since 2012. is that right? 11. i was doing my homework. and they run a pretty tight ship there. there's very few calls for service at wish. the overall consensus from patrons of that business is very positive, so it's a nice addition to the 16th street corridor of what is in the area -- did i say that? meaning sky lark, double dutch,
6:19 am
delirium, and others and it will be nice and as far as limbo concern. she had the poe application information up posted for months now. i gave you a list of all the community groups that are in the area so she did email all of those folks. i've put down pretty straightforward conditions requested, nothing out of the ordinary i think, and she was able to read those and sign it as well as you see there, and as far as mission goes i think we're looking forward to having a responsible business owner in the district so that's it for me. >> great. okay. thank you. do we have any questions for officer parker? thank you.
6:20 am
>> thank you. >> do we have any public comment on this application? seeing none. [gavel] the matter is with the commission. >> [inaudible] >> do we have any motions to make? >> motion to approve with the good neighbor policy. i don't have any changes or anything. >> do we have a second for that? >> and the police conditions? >> and the police conditions, yes, of course. >> [inaudible] >> can i get a second? >> i will make a second. >> great. thank you. since it is with the commission i believe that the permit holder has completed a written security plan and handed that in so i would like to strike condition
6:21 am
number 11 and we were talking about running the business and being able to check on it and so forth and i am wondering about the permit holder agreeing to post an educational poster inside the venue about pick pockets. i think that should be their choice to do so instead of like a condition of their permit. i think they will do that after reading that and having this discussion, but i'm not sure it's something that we should so i would like to strike that one as well if i could. do you accept that? >> that's cool. >> great. >> sorry. >> if i didn't harass you over what you hand in it wouldn't be the commission. >> all right. so the motion is approve the permit with the good neighbor policy as well as the police condition striking nine and 11. on that motion. commissioner perez. >> aye. >> commissioner akers. >> aye. >> commissioner joseph. >> aye.
6:22 am
>> commissioner lee. >> aye. >> commissioner frost. >> aye. >> vice president hide. >> aye. >> good luck. >> thank you. >> all right so the next one is another avery parker permit. this one is for limited live performance permit at dante's table on castro street. the restaurant has been there for over a year and they would like to add music, cabaret jazz for the diners and they have a patd patio in the back and would like to have brunch out there and conditions are in your binder. >> hi. i am one of the oarns
6:23 am
of dante's table and i'm not sure what i am supposed to say. >> it's great to hear why you're applying for this permit and how you hope to use it and what kind of neighborhood outreach you have done around this permit. >> okay. as you know that castro street has been under stake by the construction and we are barely surviving as most of the businesses are. i mean it's been a very tough situation and much, much worse than first indicated to us. this is an attempt to bring in more customers. we have reached out to all the other businesses to let them know what we're planning. this isn't a situation where we're going to be doing loud music. we are not planning to do djs. we want nice dinner type music particularly in the evenings during the dinner hours. we
6:24 am
want to have on occasion probably monthly cabaret but again nothing outrageous, nothing loud. we are very aware of what our neighbors are feeling. we are trying to keep in touch with what they want and what they don't want. we're planning to do something during our brunch hour but again probably non amplified. we already have music so i don't think we are really asking for anything that's going to be disruptive to the community. >> and have you done outreach like to the castro business association? >> yes, i talked to the businesses in the neighborhood, around the neighborhood. i called scott wiener's office twice inform him i wanted to do this and hoping for his support on this. so i don't know i mean that's about what i have done.
6:25 am
>> okay. do you have any documentation or proof that you doesn't the neighborhood outreach? >> yeah, max, the other owner, max tocarev who isn't here today who is on vacation i believe he has the documentation and working with cammy too. >> yes. he did submit. there is one letter in the pack get we received a second one for some reason didn't find end up in the packet that i am trying to find out now from the castro merchants association. >> yeah. >> thank you. >> my only question have they given you any idea when it's going to end, the construction? >> it clearly depends on whom you ask. you ask some of the -- i'm sorry. >> >> [inaudible] >> sidewalks. >> are you talking about the sidewalk construction? it really depends who you ask. supervisor wiener came last week and said that all of the planks
6:26 am
that are leading up to each business would be down by august 13. they are not. it has been one -- to be honest one deception after another. you ask some of the older workers that have been on many, many projects and i have heard over and over again this is one of the mismanaged projects they have been on. >> i tend to agree. i was just curious. >> yeah. >> i am curious to know for the record what percentage your business is down? >>i have owned it since january and i looked at previous records. we're probably down to 30 or 40% and this is august which is one of the biggest months. >> thank you. >> any other questions from the commission? all right. you can have a seat. >> thank you. >> okay. officer parker you're up.
6:27 am
>> great. no foul language this time. okay. dante's table is located at castro street and an italian restaurant open for dinners only and brunch on the weekends. >> >> i think that the llp will be beneficial to their business. i believe that there's an atmosphere that it will provide an ambiance and in addition to the dining experience and i think he's right about the construction. it's just horrible, and it's unfortunate that the businesses are suffering for it for a mismanaged project. that's an aside and nothing to do what we're here for. mission station
6:28 am
has again put together some pretty vanilla conditions which you shouldn't strike any of which, and we support their application. >> thank you. do we have any questions for officer parker? >> [inaudible] >> neapolitan. >> okay. do we have any public comment on this application? seeing none. [gavel] the matter is with the commission. do i have a motion for this application? >> i would like to make a motion to approve the permit with one change to the vanilla conditions specifically number two. i don't have my glasses on but essentially to alter after the comma -- after san francisco police department the applicant shall agree to turn down the
6:29 am
sound level as determined by the entertainment commission to the level determined by the entertainment commission. >> so i wanted to ask -- >> did i say that correctly. >> do you have that's in front you? if sound complaints are received and delivered by the san francisco police department the applicant shall agree to turn down the level to the acceptable level agreed by the san francisco police department. >> so i think the most reasonable way to manage that condition is you don't require a sound test unless complaints are lodged and then at that time we would send out the inspector and set a level and typically not part of the process but in the event there are complaints we will do that. >> all right. let me try this over again so i would like to make a motion that we approve
6:30 am
the application with an adjustment to condition number two if complaints are received by the san francisco police department, the entertainment commission staff will come out and perform a sound check and set a standard sound for the business. >> good job. i second. >> all right. so can we have a roll call. >> okay. on the conditions of the good neighbor policy and adjust to the sound complaints received and delivered by the police department, the entertainment commission will conduct a sound test and set limits. do i have that right? commissioner perez. >> aye. >> commissioner akers. >> aye. >> commissioner joseph. >> aye. >> commissioner lee. >> aye. >> commissioner frost. >> aye. vice president hyde. >> aye. >>od