a large for profit facility will defeat the historic designation to have a large for profit facility in the mirandized of the block will industry even though history and character of that area. granting the conditional use and variance application for san francisco anyone sorry academy sets the dangerous precedent lose any family in an rh1 residential zone to file for a conversion for a nonresidential for profit academy severing everything s serving up to you 36 kids what's to stop and file an operation for a change of use

to a non-residential for profit facility instead of with an childcare facility the residents can find itself with potentially two or three are more facilities you heard that san francisco the academy desires to expand in captivity but a fellow neighbor who hospital not yet spoken about speak about their desire to purchase other property on this block. the result is that granting the conditional use and variance b low greatly and adversely impact the neighborhood the adverse of impacts has far-reaching consequences and effects on other streets and neighborhoods for all san francisco districts.

there's an overwhelming opposition to the childcare facility go people residing on 31st avenue >> thank you, ma'am your time is up. >> so - and next speaker please thank you. >> good afternoon. i'm michael robinson on 32nd avenue lot they'd looking open little south side of the monetary school i'm opposed to this conditional use the plans submitted the building plans submitted were incorrect the bay as extend further the

new back stairs for the exit from the building actually permit people to look directly into my bedroom window and the window below on the first floor would you accept this. single-family homes are designed to have 2 to 8 occupant it's not large for 36 children and 6 to 10 staff members. on several occasions people have asked to purchase my house to rent it and also on the north side lot 36 i believe. it's already noisy when children at the preschool whether on the inside you can here the music

and movies being played for the children and it's noisy for my neighborhoods too. those plans don't include any kind of sound progressively inside or out. and your neighborhood parking essentially it set up as one spot for each house on the block mr. kline's letter says they use 3 spaces without the expansion in place pr that variance this parking variance will be moving another one or two parking spaces in the white zone depending on how it's laid auto this will leave space to park in front of my house without blocking the entrance to my

garage and driveway. when you factor in the parking for the staff and the parents this reduce street park and not included are the transfer appointments and the elementary staff and the after school staff for myself and other neighbors that signed the port commission petitions objecting to the project i ask you to deny this where both requests thank you, thank you >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, everyone. commissioners. my name is is a commissioner earl lynn louie we live across the street from the project. i want to bring to your attention loving ton middle school is located one block away

age over 6 thousand students and staff they've got no parking for that site. so in the past we've had teachers parking in front of our house all day from 7 to 6 clock the picture open the screen is not what it is when you come out when loving ton school starts there's a parking situation on our block i want to show you a picture we already have difficulty with double-parked cars parked cars blocking the driveway and double-parked cars picking up the students it's not the picture they've showed you it's not reality if you come out with lofton school is in session there's limited parking and also

there are many elderly people that live here my mom and dad are over 80 years old they walk up and down the block i've concerned with the elderly people trying to cross the street when lofton let's out and let's out in the afternoon there's a parade of kids and parents and grandparents down 37 and with the addition of 36 people an additional of the cars coming cross it's a safety and hazard we're concerned about. no foubl double they have a wonderful school we applaud them for that but we're not here to decide how great of a school they are we don't want 36 students that's a 2 hundred

percent increase of noise, traffic, pollution if the cars are idling wade for the students and having the elderly walking up and down the street experiencing their breathing and for the safety and health of our neighbor please deny this >> thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> i'm sheryl morgan and i am a mother and wanted to speak in support of the kline's increasing their number of children at their school. as a mom i had a back injury when my son was about a year old and so boy not in my cloys i had to have the a daefr i found the

kline's but the thing i want to talk about is quality and the immense defense dispondcy i had after reviewing about three or four facilities in the sunset i was pretty much in despair i had to leave my boy but you could not see myself leaving him in one of those plays they were not terrible, terrible but not ideal when i found the kline's an amazing loving environment i thought it was too good to be true but it was true my son thrilled there the loving authority in which they run their facility i can't say enough you've heard that. the primary is very important we live in the city we want to stay

in the city and have our children at the schools in the city and the preschool prepares them to excel so be socially readies for kindergarten the kline's offer an enumeration service to families in san francisco. by having their school and i hope you'll approve so they'll have more families thank you. >> hi good afternoon. my name is is monica i'm a children services manager at the local pub library i'm here to speak in support of the san francisco monetary academy i've had an opportunity to visit other sites

this is one of the finest childcare facilities the positive attitudes and the details of this school from the well established curriculum. the owners visit our bachelor branch to pick up a fresh selection of many books this is one of the dictations it's a repeated and deserved winner of the best of the best in the parents magazine and an asset to the greater community. positive impact of allowing this exemplar school far out weighs the expansion permitting the expansion will have a lasting and positive impacts on the lives of the alleged children able to attend this school as well as the greater community.

i've been there when people were being picked up from the school it doesn't happen all at once it's a staggered it is not - i actually work near a school not like a traffic jam. anyway thank you very much i hope you approve it >> good afternoon i understand it's been a long day i want to thank you for your patience i'm andrew i live across the street from the daefr center and been there for 24 years the reason i'm here i'm concerned about the children going to the daefr center let me share with you a couple of things we have no parking on the street for 3 reasons there are most people

living in each house for cars second some neighbors have converted their basement into other purposes the daefr center has no parking garage the sponsor as a white toyota truck and late model bmw and others vehicles it blocks the center so he packs his car's on the streets like most of our neighborhoods. the second the third reason the elementary school on 31st avenue and during school years the staff of the school and the take care of the school use our street from parking from 7 to 5 or 6. so very often there's no parking and since i live across the

street i can outcome the operation of the center i've been retired for 10 years so when parents have no partially what do they do they park in front or across they let the children anti sometimes on the driver's side of the door and sometimes they jaywalk across the street. in wintertime when it's dark stormy weather it's worse. every time i watch that i say wait a minute i don't want thinning anything to happen if the commission approves this expansion plan the number will increase 2 hundred percent so, please help us our neighborhood not to put anymore kids at risk. thank you.

>> thank you is there any additional public comment ? >> hi my name is david armor i'm here for another matter but i want to share an anecdote i sent my daughter to another neighborhood preschool that operated under a conditional use authorization the mists verytively managed traffic, the children and neighbor concerns and one of the things they also said to us as parent were you have to follow the rules otherwise we can losses and conditional use authorization they stressed this is not by a blanket permanent authorization it could be revoked and other schools want to be founded that

on that block it's not american people open-door policy. so i had a really good experience having neighborhood school is really valuable and i support the application >> thank you. >> hello, i'm henry i live directly behind the anyone sorry school between the school and we share the backyards of the area. i live on - i say congratulations to the previous speaker who habitation reached 80 years of age and my dad has reached 90 he didn't mind the barking dog on the other side of

the street and the students of the school during recess times they're quite loud but he didn't a hadn't claimed but my concern if this school is being populated twice over it may perturb it's livelihood so i'm all for the money try school expanding elsewhere they produce successful, you know, dimensions but i'm against them expanding in this particular area. thank you. >> thank you. is there any additional public comment?

oak seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioner antonini >> yeah. i have a question for project sponsor. it's going to be in regards to the make up of the there are 36 students proposed maximum and i understand that 18 are from two to three and the other 18ful from 3 and a half to have is there a staggering or are they there at the same time >> there are - >> okay. it seems like having grandchildren and having kids in preschool they have different times they go the younger ones don't go as long so i assume that's the case here, too. >> that's right there's a different time. >> we really want to clarify

the preschool not daefr. >> i know it's preschool. >> the terms are being used interchanging all session long. >> thank you. i have a question for staff too. in regards to capacity issues. is there i assume staff is recommend and obviously they're okay but are there any concerns about the number of students and the size of the facility? >> the way it works the state that regulates the open space per children so the applicant will have to get the state licensing they have the adequate space so far both interior and exterior the reason why they have ultimately trying to

convert their house they spent 6 years searching for an appropriate location and the current space doesn't have open that's why they're using their own home. >> thank you very much i have other comments but that answers a lot of my questions i think this is a good project it is a worthy one and you know we've got go recommendations a letter in here from as administrator or take care i guess a convalescent of the skim of the sacred heart that speaks highly of the students that came from there they've had 16 years of experience already with the smaller school it's been pointed out competition for free school is extremely fierce in san francisco as well as secondary schools my expense around my

home also around my dental office i see a number of places and i can't speak to whether those are daefr or preschools but, you know, they maybe both one maybe the other but it seems like most of the parents come and walk to pick up their kids they unusual usually like to have the kids especially the little ones in the neighborhood not where we work. as they get older some situations such notre dame but this is elementary school children their older and can be picked up and dropped off when the workday is over most of the time elementary schools are located in neighborhoods specifically because people want to be able to walk their kids there and walk them back and if

they drive them not too far. if i'm familiar with a lot of the elementary schools that have huge concentrations of students of a similar density like st. - it's in a fairly dense residential and st. phillips is even denser maybe it has 4 hundred students but i think this is good thing it works and theirs putting a light zone in i would say to see some sort of plan as part of an approval to grant it to have some administrator or member of the staff responsible for loading and unloading of students this is just as good safety measures for the students themselves those are arrive in cars but i think it's a good project

>> commissioner hillis. >> so i would agree with commissioner antonini i think this is a pretty small modified size i live a blackwell block that was addressed from 60 to one hundred students there's downloaded in parking and schools got to participate parents know the rules and neighbors have to communicate with the schools and rules are not being awe bit we we see them in most neighborhoods again, it's a modest size they don't work well in commercial neighbors there's rear yards i

urge you to have an open dialog to make sure that the parents are dong and parking in the right places and this is appropriate. commissioner sugaya >> yes. just to get some information out front currently i guess this is for the project sponsor. so in the staff report it says that in the future you're planning to have 4 full-time teachers. one full-time director, one apartment cook and one part time cleaner that totals 7 staff can

you tell me currently your staffing situation >> we have two vs. that help us at school a cook she's she's also a clearer two part time teachers and myself as a director and a take care. most of your teachers are working and one take care sometimes when it is raining outside she can take a car but ail leave the area and walk >> so the number of total staff of people would not appreciatively change that much it sounds like even though changing from teachers to full-time staff so the number hovers around 7 between the two. >> yeah. >> okay. thank you. so just wanted to ask that

question because there's a big issue with parking. and i think that part of that is, of course, the parking situation the pickup is going to increase somewhat because you're asking for increasing the number of students with you in terms of what who is there now it doesn't sound like much of a change >> first we're going to leave the premises we've got to get and house we have many siblings and people that we are friends with each other they do carpool with their children. >> okay. thank you. >> there's going to be loneliness 6 cars and many people they do bicycle or they walk. >> okay. thank you. i have another just an observation it's already you've answered my question.

i have one other observation from the gentleman who was concerned about people looking into his bedroom those are existing stairs mainly i don't think they're going to be use for people to be used for people standing on the landing peering into the neighborhood >> i'm very sorry - >> and so i don't have that kind of concern we've had others many, many issues of the rear yard decks and stairs and everything in most of the cases at least the commission didn't feel that people will generally be staring at other people's homes and lastly in terms of the childcare issue as a boarder issue i think it would be good for the commission to get a

report if staff about especially, since there's a childcare provision for that people pay into and the deputies pay into with respect to the use of money i'm not asking maybe it would be good to have a survey of the childcare facilities around the city i'm not asking that currently that would be interesting to know what kind of facilities have been built and in existence with respect to those monies that developers pay into it so for a future report. >> commissioner johnson. >> thank you very much i would act on commissioner sugayas request we'll have had the child impact fees and it be built into

commercial buildings that might be better i agree with commissioner johnck this use is really good in a neighborhood generally speaking. i think it's a good project i have a couple of questions the per diems are planning on moving out currently they 33 they reside there but my first question for the project sponsor is what are your projected at the moment hours of operation what hours will there be people whether it's you guys over and over your employees in the home or in the building? >> that was from 8 to 6 monday through friday closed all the holidays and christmas and thanksgiving. >> i mean how long will be

there. >> i'm there full-time unless i'm sick. >> i mean you open at 8:00 a.m. >> i open the school everyday for the last 126 years i'll be outside or one of the teachers to help with the child. so 7 clock or 7:30 to open the doors >> 7:30 to when. >> to 67. >> that's when the last person or child leaves so whoever is closing up who will they leave and after the cooking and cleaning and what time. >> 647. >> half an hour to an hour after and nothing on the weekends. >> no. we're closed amp all the weekends and holidays. >> okay. i mean i'm supportive he