this door is our current door we don't want to have to move this is our garage and hard to move this door if we bring this offer there's a post in the middle of the door. >> but the post is at the edge of your new deck. >> well, if there's a firewall. >> you it 3 feet in you'll not need a firewall. >> the other problem is this the the exit door to the kitchen it's possible to be moved a few feet over but it's invites exactly 3 feet we have a bathroom here if we had - well, a stairwell in the middle and this pulled back this area in the middle this door can't move

so it will limit our face we'll have a barbecue; right? >> the deck extends further and we don't want it to be 12 feet out that will block her view we're trying to tell compromise we don't want to propose. >> i understand you're married to this. >> i'm not married to it at all. >> it sound like it. >> anything else from the department? >> just one thing on 4 spiral stairs on the design after everything i hope that we've taking a look at the head stair the way it wraps around it the posts you're coming under the

deck and this is sometimes a problem the design is great but when we get but out to get the inspectors then the door has to be move forward someone else commissioner fung as a architect you know it's very well on the paper but it is a big problem for inspection maybe the permit holder has an answer but it becomes an owner we end up moving the stairs someplace else because of the head issue. >> commissioners. >> we're fine. >> we're fine. >> i'll start. >> well, you start. >> you know i is it so hard to

tell people what they shouldn't be subject to and hard to tell people to redesign what they want to do from the permit holders side, you know, i understand what they're trying to do but the question of theirs 40 two questions one the utility of firewalls is not very great i mean, you're spending kwient quite a bit of money for firewall and not utilities into you're living i would have tried to avoid it and come in 3 feet each way and avoid a firewall the other things too if you look at the plans they probably could reconfigure how they said to

handle the living room open the second floor their removing the second window for a sliding door and therefrom not law the deck you but it's difficult for me to redesign this for them and from the, you know, neighbors side, you know, i understand that, you know, after having lived there for such a long time she's used to what she has optional potential solutions i can see without moiflg the design what happens in the lattice open her fence went further out and higher would that i don't know whether the permit holder would be willing to do that to assist that but

the firewall is going to block part of her light coming through the lattice on her property line if they, find a way not to do the firewall expend the lattice out further she has her sense of security a less level of privacy because of the lattice but some level of privacy i don't know whether they want to consider those suggestions 80 to see if any resonate with either parties. >> the only problem with the firewall they'll have to come in 3 feet a reconfiguration of the original dine. >> we'll they're they'll louses

louses losing lose some space you could remove some space and put your feet on the rail. >> there's a firewall other than the other side. >> that's up to them they're going to run into a notice issue with the zoning administrator i'm trying to find a solution for both parties not both will will totally happy but as commissioner fung brought up since the building inspection record in regarding to your deck that means there's going to be a 311 notification that's needed because of the firewall then the neighbors have the opportunity to chime in so that's the reason why

commissioner fung is trying to give you. >> a sensible option. >> yeah. you might want to have a conversation with your neighbor before we make the judgment. >> if you make the changes we couldn't expect those. >> the zoning mist was proposing an option to the letter to the joining neighbor. >> we would like to get resolution for you guys. >> or we can make a ruling without you trying to reach an agreement. >> yes. >> it's in our best interest to both sides to reach an agreement or we'll reach an agreement for you. >> if you want to speak come to the microphone.

>> okay. so i don't time to put words into your mouths i think i've said you're asking scott and shannon to bring the deck in 3 feats and modify our designs. >> but go out further. >> rather than 10 feet whatever the number so her privacy and security you feel like you've got a usually deck and avoid the changes. >> you evaluated the 311 notification that is going to slow down your project. >> the ball is back into our court. >> i mean we allowed her to speak so go ahead and . >> we're giving you options. >> you don't have to accept them. >> i guess the question is we're bringing the deck in 3

feet on both sides and then that includes the stairwell as well we bring that in or can that stay where it is i think then we might consider that but, you know, as it is that's quite a bit change bringing it out and in drawing wise. >> we understand that you this is a plan i've worked open and been going on. >> over 6 months. >> but the options we're giving that once you go to 311 notification you'll be going on for a couple more months. >> we understand that scott sorry your last nameless the firewall on both sides we can do that and maybe get a letter from our other adjacent neighbors and

if that's satisfied. >> let's hear from the department and see the recommendations and perhaps commissioner honda but perhaps would you folks like to have another week or two. >> weigh like a week to speak to each other and come back to iron these things out the next meeting is october 8th that gives us 2 weeks. >> you want to take a break. >> let's take a 5 minute break so you guys can hopefully resolve this and if it can't be >> okay. we're back on the september 17, 2014, meeting of the san francisco board of appeals we're still on item 14 and we'll hear from an agent for

the appellant. >> thank you for letting us talk amongst ourselves we've come to a conclusion identified by commissioner fung carl al has agreed to firewalls on her property line with an additional of lattice from her exist lattice to the center line of the recycle stairway we've agreed to ship los angeles board so they'll be using that at least the neighborhoods are okay. >> permit holder are you in agreement with this that is. >> yeah, that definitely seems arbitrarily to us we'll also

request with our powerful we'll request with the 311 we'll get a letter from the adjacent neighbors so, yeah we'll get advise from mr. zoning administrator after our finished. >> okay. thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you scott sanchez planning department the matter is before the board and with board discretion if it satisfies the requirement at least having that notification to the adjacent immediate neighbors will beat out the concerns of the firewall that the 2 and a half feet above a if he has it is minimal and that property to the south given the typography

the only concern if action is taken tonight and the person has concerned no venue in which to express those and the board can continue this to the next hearing maybe the revised plans would be redone and take action. >> yes. that's reasonable. >> thank you mr. sanchez. >> so you're the suggestion of the having a revised plans for the next hearing and as far as the notice to the hamburger is it to provide notice and seeing if there's objection or request something from the neighbor. >> let me state my explanation i would like to see on photograph active letter from the adjacent neighbor saying the revised plans are acceptable and if we give another week for all parties to agree on the revised

plans that would be prudent. >> commissioner. >> actually more than a week. >> two weeks then and i wonder if you're open to october 15th because october 8th is extremely full. >> yes. october 15th unless anyone obtains. >> hearing in objection. >> i think 1942 our preference to make the agreement now. >> we're not going to do that we're going to invite the other neighbor but the plans itself where the wall goes so we don't have to revisit that you we're going to need revised plans to be part of the motion anyway to so it continues our permittee

at the building inspection. >> unless someone a has objections we'll deem it as accepted 15 of october. >> she can review the drawings if they satisfy her, she didn't have to come back. >> i think your motions to continue to october 15th for the submittal of the revised plans and the simultaneously of the letter from the adjacent neighbor acknowledging acceptance of the firewall and have those plans to the board before october 15th and we'll deem the 311 notification

performed at that time. >> i think you should say visitations. >> that's a finding only october 15th if that's where you went. >> okay. >> we have a motion then from the vice president to continue this matter until october 15th did public hearing has been headings held and closed for a simultaneously of revised plans and a written agreement on the southern adjacent property owner regarding this firewall issue. >> on that motion to continue commissioner fung president is absent commissioner honda. >> thank you vote is 3 to zero this matter is continued until october 15th vice president there's no further bus. >> thank you we're adjourned

september 23, 2014, welcome to the san francisco transportation authority i'm supervisor avalos the chair of the authority and today's clerk is erica chang and the broadcasting is brought to us by jonathan and jessie larson thank you for your work madam clerk call roll. >> supervisor avalos supervisor breed supervisor campos absent supervisor chiu supervisor cohen supervisor farrell absent

supervisor kim absent supervisor mar supervisor tang supervisor wiener supervisor yee we have quorum. >> thank you madam clerk next item. >> item 2 approval the july 22nd, 2014, item. >> colleagues, any questions seeing none, on our minutes from the transportation authority meeting and seeing none, we'll close public comment. >> good morning the commission function bart from all of the el sincerity to the center seeing inside the train i was business the passengers this whole years of 3 hundred and 65 days talking

about the goeveng area to the passengers you know this is my way of making friendship to the passengers and i think that also on to san francisco see i think the seat wise everything is a new changes this year somehow the city has undue a common trend that is changing everything from we've got the police department and fire department state argue department and public health department also the people in the central district professionals and all another areas of the all the people so this trend is because of re-election if november that was scott wiener as well as

supervisor malia cohen people have an exception because a lot of the times it allows us - >> thank you very much no other members of the public the item a closed roll call. >> supervisor avalos supervisor breed supervisor campos at about supervisor chiu supervisor cohen supervisor farrell absent supervisor kim absent supervisor mar supervisor tang supervisor wiener supervisor yee that item passes. >> thank you next item and item 3 treasurers report an informational item. >> thank you there's much to report on the information but i want to share sobering news about a pedestrian fatality

we're sorry for the loss of the family a 78-year-old grow. of 8 that was struck and killed in chinatown this past weekend it's been you know very difficult year i think that the board r ta board has done a lot of work and the board of supervisors to port the vision zero work but obviously much to be done we have so much work to do and it can't happenzoon enough i think that our vision zero committee will have e help with the education and capital street improvements when we meet on tuesday september at 10:00 a.m. at city hall i'm pleased to talk about governor's law under this

law the drivers must maintain 3 photo when passing bicyclists if the motorist can't she or he must slow to a prudent speed and pass only when safe thank you to sandra and governor jerry brown and the treasure island management legal entity for the transportation authority that was a protected measure to firewall our prop k from the future operations of the new item ma we want to thank tom assemblyman for this initiative locally over the summer i was able to tour the yerba buena gardens island that is making

progress together with our chief deputy i learned and experienced in a construction managers and contractors are keeping this on schedule and within budget under difficult conditions i want to recommend colleagues you take a tour of the construction site it is remarkable what is being done in anaconda fined spice which we and the entities including the navy is preceding as well as of the hard work we're seeing d b participation in the project and the cooperation is preceding with caltrain and the treasure island authority i want to recognize another team lead by senior engineer liz who is managing the off-ramp project

it is complicated and demanding i want to appreciate the communication and let the public knows about the 0 closer and the detours in the area obtain a personal note i'm happy to see prop k on the agenda and thank you to the sfmta offer this weekend i was happy to gather with district 11 some of whom worked on the geneva transportation plan it resolved the plantings the project looks at great and officially laundry on sunday street excelsior festival on this sunday september 29th finally, i'd like to congratulate the sfmta on their procurement of the next generation light rail vehicle fleet thank you to supervisor

breed for the approval for the legislation for the contract and the mayor and colleagues on the board for supporting this $1.2 billion investment as many residents can attest the l l vs are having maintenance issues that negatively impact transit service more than any other investment that helps munis reliability making it more attractive this is wyoming why one of the problematic category is for transit vehicle replacement prop k will provide $4.6 million for the first batch of l r r v beyond that prop k provides one hundred and $30 million for the existing l l

r vs thank you for the transportation staff and our consultants and others for your work and assistance to the sfmta for this achievement with that, i'm conclude my remarks colleagues questions or comments seeing none, public comment on the chairs remarks. >> october october 5th center this is a special sunday with the sue most wrestles from 11:00 o'clock october 5th sunday at the center. >> okay. very good with that, seeing no other public comment next item and item 4 executive directors report an informational item. >>