the phrase feasible will you talk about that your intentions obviously providing some flexibility and providing flexibility because i understand from the film commission things change and but i don't think it's fair that constituents should face the brunt of the changing because an actor is sick as an example given he earlier. >> i'm sorry can you repeat that i hear a hearing aid. >> it was feasible when it was draft to provide flaeblt but the 72 hours should be in good faith. >> i think it seems like that 72 hours is reasonable for the reason you've described but i want to make sure that knowing

that i think we want going to happen in the city and knowing that things happen i obviously want people to not say it was feasible wheelbarrow it clearly was there are times i can't get 71 hours that will give the film commission the flexibility to do. >> sure. the court: what you're saying is the current policy you can deviate from it when there's a reason to do that which typically is one of the many reasons why you know a change in location weather cancellation and for the i read this is providing the film company the flexibility you know forcing them to make the adjustment in

the 72 hours didn't work. >> i've given my arguments so thank you for hearing my request. >> okay thank you okay. if there's no another comments we'll open this up for public comment on item 2 two cards (calling names) i haven't called our name. >> contemplation. >> sir, you should step backfill out a card or wait for them to speak mr. johnson. >> great. thank you very much. >> i'll be back there to meet quorum as soon as possible i served in susan nasal roll as the director of the inform film commission i'm not gag to

challenge the wisdom of cod fizzing something that's a best practice i get the drift of where the panel it going i wanted to say there's a streak in the city that sometimes runs through the community through the body politics and into city hall as well as a relates to filming in the city you're a little bit damned if you do and damned in you don't as a matter of public policy we support filming in san francisco but we tend to focus on real high profile things like disney movies or godzilla but frankly are not the real issue in this case they shoot for a few days and have big operations and do most of their stuff open the we understand which is quiet but we

have a thriving independent film and still affirmative it is important we should support them but not only the neighbors and constituents who want to have a partially on the public street of san francisco but the constituents most affected by the constituents are the working people in the film industry the locals the people forget about this is a working class community of workers in san francisco that depends on this filmmaking industry and while we've seen an uptick in the last couple of years we're no where near where we were. >> if i can ask you along the same links as my questions just before about the you know how i

read this i want to be very, very clear the way i read this as one of the people that will be voting on this this gives the film commission a broad discretion to reduce the 72 hours and supervisor cohen has to be in good faith and i know it will but to provide significant discretion. >> one as our executive director powders it acceptance up expectations we're concerned about being afford by practical realty we don't have pg&e and who little is lighting the street are imperfect in favor so

we going come into conflict we can invoke the discretion so i'm not going to august but in practice in the city is quite a bit of constituent work that goes on in this town anything this casts a shadow on the importance of filmmaking in san francisco makes that interaction with the community that itch harder i would caution that we want to support this industry and yet the reputation of san francisco fights every day as it relates to the entertainment industry as a difficult or expensive place to shoot or stay or union town

we have a high maintenance population i'm just making my case i think we as a body politic certainly us we commissioners do our best to invoke the importance of this industry and so that's the point i want to make. >> so right now can you i know you're not you're a commissioner but you've been at this for a long time in terms of the process right now i know from enacting with the constituents but it's a larger production with a lead time how much notice i apologize if you mentioned this supervisor. >> i don't have data but certainly with the larger production it's going to use 50 spaces in front of a give him that's when it's in the works foyer a lopthd and a one hundred

and 50 zone my shift and come into place at the end but we're talking about the smaller shoots the ones that have to deal with competing elements like construction or whether i actually don't think it's a great example the actor getting sick we picture you know merryl streptococcus or woody allen that has the instill he lives bus the real life things that come up and the smaller shoots the more vulnerable it is. >> yeah. i would i agree the bigger ones it's an issue you know a lot of the capacity to deal with it. >> actually, i need to jump in supervisor wiener when you're done. >> sure in terms of the smaller

shoots we need to make sure that could be a significant thing to say you this have to people the entire shoot i'm sorry, i am seeing the feasibility language is huge. >> supervisor cohen. >> in the example you referenced mr. johnson that 50 spots let's be clear that would have been in the works for weeks but the reality is it hadn't so from my prospective if a large or small i'm looking for consistent socy so on the time i've lived on the hills who have also there on numerous years it is inconsistent and the film

commission has i think inconsistently in elapsing and direction whether or not i'm the supervisor or the director upton is the director or not there's a that is established and neighbors as well as the people in the industry will have to come to know and come to respect that means two hours of noticing i felt i threw you guys a bone i'm happy to take that anti but we can take it out but it really coming to this i'm trying to figure out the balance i understand the city is looking to increase more filming and i've been a part ever it and cast many votes of the recognition that supervisor farrell has been championship and the large industrial spaces

as well as i tried to help the film commission use or a as a resources for filming and staging and all that stuff b that goes along with the industry i don't want to be pained as an enemy this is not the case i'm trying to be level handed and fair throughout the city we've got to have noticing and applied to a specific industry where it has not been consistently applied thank you. >> thank you mr. johnson. >> next speaker. >> contemplation from this halfway to world management so how is it contemplation internal cameras for a passage can lead all the way to world management

see movie vs. the microsoft and the computer industry see other time of the manufactures fire can not be in good use it's the time of a little fire had to us businessmen with the secrets there is no more secrets, however, a thousand secrets i remember like a few years my father he would walk to the street ferry from the streets of hong kong to a fulfill participate mediation you know and my father the things tumble see people like to see method only

people good really talent but the ability and achievement of whole i didn't credits in terms of wholly practice i saw a mid-west like a supervisor from the warm italy see there is 10 thousand stuff in between the scene to make a movies >> next speaker. >> hello i'm a laurie work for the phone commission you probability e probably got mail visitations i'm here to answer questions about the notification process we have three people people in the office myself and maggie se

maggie send out notices there is a consistency we need and we fully respect the lines of feasibility comments you're making will or about the feasibility supervisor wiener supervisor wiener we want to increase that feasibility so when we bring up the problems that 0 come into play 48 hours to issue date it makes it that much less feasibility to invite people we want a consistent as well so the reason we're stressing the 72 hours to have a high percentage of affectionate that's the key so regardless of whether it's 72 or twenty-four hours we want to invite we're not trying to withhold information is increases the respect for filming in the city

so basically, the consistency in notices will increase if we have the opportunity for the twenty-four hour timeframe thank you. >> thank you very much. is there any additional public comment on item 2? seeing none, public comment is closed okay. it's back in the hands of the committee sir i don't know if you would speak to this but when feasible language can you tell us what that did it mean what i think it means as i've described earlier >> i think it means what you think it means the arts commission has the authority to adapt rules and regulations filming and could following the adaptation of this ordinance adapt guidance or more formal

regulations to specify the types of instances when someone what provide less than 72 hours but generally our description of the term is correct. >> so the commission could adapt regulations saying okay 71 hours but those are the general types of curtains that make it not faenl and we'll consider shorter periods. >> that's right. >> supervisor cohen. >> maybe to i'm hearing the discussion here today noting why not take out the feasibility phrase and we can add it in more latter when we find out what constitutes feasibility and go to the 72 or twenty-four hours. >> 72 it's one the questions we can easily remove it.

>> i would not be supportive of removing the feasibility language i think the commission should have flexibility to supervisor kim i don't care if you have thoughts in mind. >> i really didn't have strong feelings it's not from our neighborhood residents i've not thought about those issue i was going to defer ensue or but i'm happy to consider your amendment i am not ready right now no actually what i was he proposing there's a lot condemnation what's feasible and not feasible i'm happy to take that out of the language so it's clear the issue is noticing that requires the commission to be consistent

with our laws of one hundred and 50 foot radius what the 72 hours excuse me. 72 hours notice to the public that the parking is going to be taken off as a councilmember curls compromise i've included what is the line. >> page 3 lines 18 and 19 in the all the time. >> a yeah. in the all the times we're discussing so supervisor wiener is saying. >> page 3 line 18. >> line 18. >> on the printed version. >> you're looking at my version the printed version is the most current version. >> so i'm happy to withdraw my motion to withdraw the feasibility clause and keep it

in there and keep the legislation as i have it in front of you as you've reviewed the most important is the 72 hour noticing and i too the compromise included the feasibility class so that it will remain flexibility there's a lot of discussion and questions around it feasibility is important to maintain so we don't stifle the commission i'm asking our permission from the noticing of 24 to 72 hours at the start of the production. >> the city and county hours makes sense i don't have an issue it's good to have notice but at issue is the one feasible right if you can do it in 72 hours i should how often is that not feasible. >> i think that it is twoed of

the discussion i said it sound like we're in agreement the attorney says when feasible it gives broad discretion for the varied things we can't anticipate to grant an exception but with the commission is go saying their concern is if they start granting a lot of those then it looks like it can look to neighbors like the 72 hours is meaningless and you're only getting around the rules this seems like the two sides i'm supportive of keeping the when feasible i understand the commissioners concerned but this gives them a lot of led way to adapt the rules or guidelines so the folks know what the rules

are and take an exemption if they need i have another question are you the film commission is there like a staff person that is on call even on the weekends or evening i can this evenings and weekends if let's say is there also someone that need let's say on a wednesday they gave a 72 hour notice or thursday a 72 hour notice on friday nint night or started morning they learned something totally unexpected happened i'm getting my days mixture up but not 9 to 5 on friday can there someone we can contact. >> again, i was here earlier we

give them our cell phones it comes up all the time we're a 9 to 5 we're very part of production world that that's what happens people call on the friday evening and they is something about we have to film and start at 4:00 a.m. next tuesday, i need our help to start this this means we go around and ask each resident for that their permission to film before the 7:00 a.m. noise ordinance long story short we work extremely hard to make sure that visiting is done and if we invite folks he will that's what we do and they call us open friday to make the changes it is

very much appreciated that's the only way to encourage people to continue. >> thank you for answering that supervisor cohen was your name this coming before you. >> no, it's my new cue thank you. >> you know i think one thing one of the challenges here is that increase no very little data or oath an idol decisions a cail that was made last friday i've got my own experiences from parking or notification that happening not in an accurate way it is to require the film commission to do something they're already doing and they give a notice we want to be consistent with that notice and it has now raised concerns from

my prospective that there maybe abuse to when feasible class which is why i want it taken out i understand you'll not support it but i make a motion when feasible on page 3 line 18 and beginning part of line 19. >> okay. so right now 53 you ask the amendments in general upper today going to offer an amendment to change 72 hours to twenty-four hours two amendments change from twenty-four hours to 72 hours and one to strike when feasible. >> that's correct. >> okay. so is that a motion? >> i make a motion. >> and again, the argument of the substances. >> nomadic the amendments and pass to out today. >> i was prepared to support

changing 72 housing to twenty-four hours not prepared to support striking when feasible i think it will hamstring the ability of the commission to be flexible with the smaller productions but frankly either small or large i'll not be supporting that motion. >> supervisor kim. >> so i'll support that motion my understanding is there is flexibility that's written into the ordinance, however, i think it's you know we'll have a week before it comes back to the full board and work out the clings and pass it out of the land use commission today, i'm happy to support it today. >> thank you. >> on the motion by supervisor cohen to make those amendments as described to item two madam

clerk call roll. >> supervisor cohen supervisor kim supervisor wiener. >> no. >> you have two i's and one no. >> so the amendment is adapted supervisor cohen i want to make a motion on item 2. >> yes. i would like to make a motion on item 2 a motion to adapt the amendments. >> the amendments have been adapted. >> motion to move it out of committee and motion to move it to the full board with a positive recommendation i will not been able to support that motion fwiven the striking of the words when feasible i support this in general but as i mentioned before this is to me i think it's good that supervisor cohen that i put that in there

and i hope it will come back with that, i'll not been able to vote for the motion i hope over the next 8 days there are continued conversation with a workable solution the film industry is important in the city and make sure that is being conducted in a way that works for our neighborhoods i appreciate our work and office madam clerk call the roll on the motion to move it forward. >> supervisor cohen supervisor kim supervisor wiener no. >> supervisor wiener two i's and one >> madam clerk, is there any other business before this committee? >> there's no further business. >> then adjourn

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