under? can it be under dcyf? heard everyone, all of the departments and i know everyone wants to do it but can we look to a department to make sure that coordination is happening and we're figuring out how to do that really difficult but really important work? >> thank you for the question. you know i do agree that coordination, making sure that the data that we're collecting reflect the type of services that we are implementing on the ground, and that we're using our different resources appropriately. i think director chu made a very correct and accurate statement, particularly for this population it's a little harder but it's not impossible. i think us coming together as a body of government providers and department heads and departments as well as nonprofit agencies just to think

about how do we address the system and address this issue might be the first start to this. i know that our nonprofit agencies have a direct link to the young people and their families and maybe that's where we start to make sure we're coordinating appropriately. i like the idea of connecting the bits and pieces of data we're getting from the feds to perhaps some of our other services that's through the want department of public health or through the human services agency so we can at least get an idea of the -- you know, the types of kids that we're serving so we can at least narrow it down what they need but right now we don't have a very good answer for that and we would love to to be a partner in that.

we can convene meetings and folks to have this conversation but i have to say that ms. kent has been a phenomenal convener of department heads and service providers, particularly around this issue. the mayor has shown great leadership. >> no, i appreciate that. we have someone that will coordinate all of the departments but i imagine that ultimately this data base has to be housed somewhere under a department. i can't imagine ms. kent will have that capacity but great if you do, but i imagine it would eventually have to be housed somewhere so that's where the question was directed. thank you so much. >> thank you so much. >> commissioner commissioner -- commissioner wynns do you have a question? >> i don't know if anyone can answer this. i am wondering about people getting lost

somewhere. as you said the uniqueness that most of these kids coming across the border are turning themselves into the border authorities, the federal authorities so theoretically they have their names and have them on some list and presumably since most or all of them are in the legal system they -- immigration should be tracking them. they ought to be able to tell us where they are and who is here and do we have a way to know about all these people? what i fear is -- i don't want to -- is that other people are afraid, family members, friends, whoever may themselves not be appropriately documented and i want to -- from our point of view we need to make sure that the kids are in school and they understand we have services for

them, language services and we're not only dedicated to serving them but having things available for them so is there some way? i mean that's the -- sort of supervisor kim's question. can we check and make sure everyone we should be serving contacted us or exist in the system somewhere? >> so first of all this is a good conversation. this needs to happen. this is part of what we sending up the chain just in terms talking to national leadership on this. the short answer is if -- i mean if we want to do that we do it on our own. sadly what i learned once the children are placed they get a court date and then the track ing stops, so there is this whole process from homeland

security to hhs and drills down to the office of refugee resettlement and once that placement happens they're done. the only way to be comprehensive is when the children come and don't have a placement and 80% are coming with a family name. the 10-15% that aren't there is a rfp out. a couple of the community based organizations went after the funding to house these kids so for that population we will have data because they be connected to services and the state -- or the federal government's going to want to monitor the outcome, but locally i think mr. chu referenced this and maybe through legal services as children show up to court we can capture the names there. as our community based organizations go after funding that we make

available we can build into the contract reporting requirements that have the follow up so we can -- there are some things we can do but -- >> but 85 to 90% of the children who are get through the beginning of the federal system and then are assigned to hopefully the family member with whose name they came across the border that's it. we don't have anyway of knowing who they are. nobody is telling the city and county of san francisco this many children have been placed with relatives who have identified -- with an address in san francisco. >> they will give us a number but won't give the names or addresses, so it's hard. i have been barking up that tree and what they -- i mean the reason is which sort of makes sense is not all local jurisdictions are

as welcoming as we are, and have the intentions that we do in terms of doing the right thing. >> does the number match the number that we -- >> so the numbers they're providing -- so -- gosh to date -- no, through the end of august we received about 208 kids formally placed here and the number from the school district is i think 240 -- was it? 200. okay. so using the school district as a gauge i think it's pretty close. to help myself sleep better at night because i have that same question i take some comfort in the fact that this surge -- what is unique about it the children are turning themselves over compared to historically they don't so i feel like in a sense we have less to worry about because of

that small piece, which is not a good situation, but we do have that? >> thank you. i am a little worried about the people they're coming to. we've set up here, and by the way i don't know if anybody wanted it but my staff provided me copies with the resolution that the board of education passed, but so because this is a crisis clearly as demonstrated here today we set up a public and publicly funded community based infrastructure for the kids that we know have been coming across the border, but what we don't know is what kind of service or relationship anybody has with the family members they're going, so that's the little vacuum there that could cause people to fall through the cracks if we don't know who they are and whom they're going we can't follow up

to make sure they're served. >> so my question on that one is what is their evaluation requirements when looking at these sponsor families so the children coming across the border they're put in temporary shelter for 30 days and during that time they're looking for the family sponsors and doing some sort of evaluation and i think when i get that information i can forward that to you. >> and then presumably eventually, but what i have been reading on the papers and hearing on radio it could take months and years to all of the cases to be adjudicated in court. that's when we would find out. if it's eight kids, four kids and as it goes up in the next couple of years it turns out to be 30, 40, 50 kids and we find out in two years when the cases come before court some of the kids are not in

school for that amount of time. that would be bad. i understand it's nobody's intention but i see the potential there. that's the big crack that people could fall through. >> so the one way that we're trying to address that through the services that we colleagues talked about today so the agency human services agency they respond to -- i mean you can call them and they can come out and do an evaluation if you suspect there is something fishy going on, and then the department of public health when we met with legal service providers they said a lot of the children have been through trauma and might not be in the best situation, and so just having those folks in the room we were able to make that connection so the legal service providers know they can go to hsa if they're suspicious and

dph can work with them and work with the children that went through these traumatic situations so even though we don't have the names and addresses to make us feel better we have using the resources to catch the kids in the way we're not able to get in front of the issue. >> i appreciate that. thank you very much. >> thank you. so if there are no other questions or comments from commissioners we will further open up for public comment so i have one card. i have louis avalos and if another member of the public would like to speak please do come up. >> okay. >> thank you so much for being here. >> thank you supervisor kim so good afternoon. i am the district 5 youth commissioner. i come today to show my support and gratitude for this hearing. i would like to thank the departments and agencies that came out today that shared this information that personally hits me close to home. i am myself

undocumented and hearing this hearing i know it might be troublesome to figure out the execution tactics and procedures to implement all of the support services but with that being said i know it's not impossible. i myself regardless of being undocumented have received a lot of support services from the city and county. i received consultation and guidance from lawyers thanks to the services. i have vision issues and i received aid from the low vision and blind groups and from healthy kids san francisco and i would like these resources to be given to these undocumented children just as they were given to me. san francisco is known for innovation and addressing the needs of these population and this is a great example what it can do for all of the

unaccompanied minors facing hard ship and let's support these children and what it truly means to be a sanctuary city. thank you. >> thank you commissioner. any other members of the public that would like to speak? seeing none public comment is now closed. commissioner mendoza. >> so thank you. i just want to thank everyone that presented today and i have to say having been part of the conversations early on it was really great to see the collective, both wisdom and desire to help bring in the young people that are coming to san francisco and finding ways to really support them being part of our community, and it all happened really quickly in terms of our ask to the feds

and what we can do to ensure we're protecting and understanding everything that's happening to our unaccompanied minors and i just really want to appreciate all the efforts put into that because i have seen you guys come together time and time again under the leadership of lonnie kent from the mayor's office who has kind of got thrown into this in a way that she didn't expect it to kind of come through, and to gain the momentum it has and to see all of you come together the way you have has been really tremendous. and i think from the school district side just knowing that we're going to be receiving potentially 200-400 students all at once or in dribbles or how it was we were going to be accepting the students there was a part of me who was a little bit nervous but a part of me

that was proud because we do serve so many undocumented students already and we don't categorize them and are you or are you not and you come into the system and served like anyone else so as a district we were prepared to help the new students that came in and i am comfortable with the services set up because there are unique challenges that our unaccompanied youth will be experiencing and i have to say as a parent of two kids there is no way i will ever understand how our young people make it from one place to the next, and in knowing there is going to be a tremendous amount of emotion

and trauma that they will be experiencing and we as a city have come together to ensure they can be as stable as possible is just really heart warming so on behalf of the school board i want to thank you for the great work and again just highlights who we are as a city, and the work that we can do together, and i am really looking forward to ensuring that the young people that come through san francisco and stay in san francisco are well supported so again thank you for your tremendous work. >> i also upon to thank all of the departments that are here today. we will continue this item but we want to ask everyone to come back in october and i will make sure that our office reaches out to all of the departments with the continuance -- well, i can't continue the hearing, but being heard again in october. i appreciate the work. it's so clear that every

department is incredibly passionate about making sure we're making a difference for this group of young people that are here and growing here in san francisco. i really, really am going to push on the data sharing issue. i know we're still working it out on even the juvenile justice dph level but i think we need a solution on it soon because i think we all know it's very hard to succeed in the city under the circumstances that the young people are coming and of course there will be young people -- like our commissioner that will succeed but there are so many it's going to be so challenging for them to come up under all the obstacles and challenges they're facing and having a cohort of adults caring for them able to communicate with one another i think is important and really highlighted for me a couple of weeks ago when we learn d that one of the former youth interns passed away and someone we

thought was doing well, successful, went to college but still so heavily burdened by the challenges of being low income, the family being homeless and transitioning through a lot of housing and even though he was in so many programs i wish i could have communicated with some of the adults he worked with so we had a broader picture of the struggles he was going through and obviously in retrospect i wish we could have supported him better if we had the full knowledge of what we was going through so i push on us to do that because the youth are here now. they're getting older and we have to make it. i think it's urgent to do that and finally i know not everyone will be back with select committee but a request to the clerk to send the presentations to the clerk's office so they can have the presentations up on cue and

i want to thank you for being here and i am glad to have the commissioner here and it would be great to have the young people who are undocumented and gone through the system and advise us on what has been successful and not successful in working through multiple systems so i am glad the commissioner was here today and i hope you give input in the larger coordination process so thank you and seeing no further comments we cannot take a motion on this item yet, and so i believe mr. clerk if there are no other announcements the meeting is adjourned. >> that's correct madam chair. just to make sure no action is taken and this item will automatically appear on the next agenda. >> thank you mr. clerk. so meeting is adjourned. thank you everyone. [gavel]

november 4th. >> hello and nona melkonian with sfgovtv along with the legacy of women voters of san francisco i'm here to talk about measure j a ballot measure on tuesday november 4th before the voter measure j is an ordinance that will increase the minimum wage for workers as follows on may 1st, 2015, the minimum wage is $12.25 kernts per hour the minimum wage will increase to 13 days on july 1st, the minimum wage will increase to 4 days an july 1st, 2018, it

will increase to $15 we are or per hour and it will increase based on inflation measure j will apply to city employers employees and the serves public authority two types of employees under the angel of 18 working in a government subsidize apprenticeship program and over 55 working for nonprofits and with positions that our government subsidies these employees will get minimum wage of 12 there's $0.25 per hour with annual increases on july 1st, you 2016 based on flagrancy in you vote yes. you want the city to gradually increases it by july 1st, 2018, with increases based on inflation after that if you vote no, i don't want the city to

increase the minimum wage i'm here with jason elliott with the government affairs and a proponent of measure j we're also joined we herpes the president of the district merchant see organization sow accident onsite thank you. i'll to start with opening remarks jason. >> thank you nona and thanks to the league of women's i'll be brief measure j is a measure to raise the minimum wage in san francisco are you right now it $10.75 by july of 2018 that will be $14 per hour we need the equality in san francisco sits the issue of the day families leave inform everyday and this is one piece of the puzzle to

make san francisco the city that's more affordable to the one hundred percent. >> okay. so we see it as not helping people out that much at the end of the day the folks he earning 15 now will want to increase their income beyond that, and, secondly, the cost of doing business is going to there's a small business has to make a reasonable profit and if they pay the employees obviously the costs are going to have labor is going to go up so how dour make the adjustment it's going to be more to live in city at the end of the day it quo would be nice if we got breaks. >> justin do you feel this measure is a compromise between employees of small businesses.

>> this is a compromise a number of measures proposed earlier this year and ultimately one mile-an-hour placed on the ballot by mayor ed lee and supported by the board of supervisors a number of organizations that are supportive that of minimum wage did everyone this is that perfect, of course not henry has expressed concerns and merchant have a concern this is a minimum wage that takes stair stems up from the current 1074 asia minutes with the gratitude increase culminating over $15 an hour a gradual stairstep up to $15 an area complard to other proposals this is a measure it's fair to workers ervin the minimum wage and fair to businesses that have to pay it and fair to the san franciscans who have to live here in san

francisco and henry would you like to respond to jason's. >> this is an empty level wage for empty level for someone who is not qualified is going to be tough for a small business to bring people in and that will bring in the qualified people again getting back to the reaching out in was not consensus on the small business misinforms small businesses are afraid if that's the way i feel we're going got going to shop at our stores by at the end of the day what's going to happen costs are going to be up and people getting the rates now, when all said and done the be there is

not a great benefits. >> henry has concerned about the cost of living is there concerns and as proponents of this measure we share the concerns the world bank as recent data as recently as june of this year san francisco in coming quality is not in the upper equality this means raise for you wouldn't thousand people earning minimum wage or above is and trying to live here if passed including the people that and the workers will be taking home substantial amazes of money when i say subsequential perhaps $200 a week in the industrial

19th street plus in 2018 a worker will be taking home $185 more not much for people earning more than that but who is trying to survive not raise a family it is crazy but the federal benefit threshold are actually lower than than the living you could be earner too much to quality for benefits. >> henry thoughts. >> absolutely the other thing as jason said the minimum wage we're going to have competition in people outside you have san francisco that is $15 across the board everyone you have your online and amazons and google's

delivering groceries and we're competing with those folks it's being harder and harder for us to survive we are making a bed of income for everyone i see again, i'm talking about the entry-level you'll find the majority of people in the businesses they pay more than 15 already it's a an entry-level. >> thank you both for your comments i'd like to use a little bit of time for final remarks henry. >> yes. i don't think this income income is going to help with it comes to how's the rates are skyrocketing and there's no chronological our rentals are going up by way way more than the residential lake we releases

when have no chance of the winning so my financial word stout to the public go and shop local and think about the small businesses and get off your mobile dies and your ordering from amazon and shop local i urge you to shop local think about was it good samaritan does to the community and think about our wonderful city. >> jason final remarks. >> i know this is supposed to be a debate i couldn't agree more please go shop local and supporting our neighborhood cords that makes the city vibrate just a final word on the minimum wage henry has raised concerns about small businesses and merchant have with the cost of doing business those are real concerns we tried to address those by making that a gradual

raise that stair steps this is one step towards solving equality and this will not make housing affordable to everyone living in san francisco but a good step and hopefully many, many measures we can work together to make san francisco a place to live. >> we hope this discussion has on informative for more information please invest the san francisco website at sf election.org and remember early voting is available at city hall from 8 to 5:00 p.m. and vote is the city hall two we understand before the election if you don't vote early be sure to vote on tuesday