camp died i cried a lot but if we could talk with mr. camp i didn't in heaven the reason i decided to write this letter to you was because kathleen recommended it be better than leaving a message on an answering machine two diaz days on the grounds the cdc was mentioned in a positive life and several times on the family public radio we're told that cdc recommends certain thing but cdc knew about the vaccines they were presenting are please go to the interviews that doctor

wakefield i don't know if you listen to prayer time in i wish you'd call me i'll take you to - >> thank you any other speakers. >> tom gilbert i didn't the orderly please it's a ranging system from tenants in common we want to change over there's a name ab age 78 years owned property 4 total a month one hundred and 22 years range and next person maybe 50 years

of age owned property 20 years and 70 a ranking of 70 and other person thirty years of age and getting a 35 when we go tenants in common it's frozen for 10 years but interesting to see where it comes down the ranking another called sharing when people buy a piece of property is it's a million dollars piece of property and 4 people living in the property i'm going to call it a 5 equals 3 every 5 years you've lived there you get 3 person of the sales price you

get 3 times 5 percent that makes it 6 percent and 15 years it would be 5 times 3 equals 9 percent and a 15 percent that's the thought sales price now on all of those one person gets thirty thousand and other 60 and 90 thousand and the person 25 years 90 thousand that would help thank you. >> next speaker >> good afternoon, supervisors

i'm peter war field executive director of library users association i'll be showing materials fewer our viewing the current september issue of wire magazine has a cover story and a number of stories about this person that happens to be edward snowden on the slightly more than one year anniversary of his revolutions i'd like to suggest that the supervisors as well as the mayor's office and every department need to consider what to do with respect to the implications for everyone's privacy and confidentiality bruce in an article after the main article by treating the internet as a giant as an approach they've stopped the

standards to protect ourselves it's left us vulnerable to foreign governments to hawker and transformed the internet into a medium that no one can trust i think it's time for the supervisors and the city agencies to review what the implications are of the vast and excessive spying it's been going in the internet by the n f a and other private institutions end of this article i think it significant they quote edward snowing done what new story will come out next but the question what are we're going to do about it i think you should consider

strongly what you'll do about it before the public. >> thank you. is there any additional public comment in general public comment? >> good afternoon, supervisors aim jackie for people who have new to this planet and don't know who i am the reason i'm here i got a report from the whistle program blowers an annual program for complaints i got this last friday this is the first opportunity to share with you what i believe to be loopholes which the board of supervisors needs to close regarding this particular administration active code it's

not been amended since june 19th of 1998 a long time ago i suggest the first one being a thirty day advanced floss on site posting for the dedicated board of directors meeting for programs ref sf funding agendas to be available for the public and the word agenda be included in the amendment because there's also nothing requiring agenda for the public there's nothing referring to minutes that the minutes be accurate did you say that the meetings need to be held in to san francisco the money is here and there's nothing currently in the code that requires those meetings to be held 90 in san francisco and under the compliance section that be

reworded to say that consider such an immaterial breach for tirment the contract partially or in its entire thank you there needs to be punishment for not being in compliance there are nonprofits which constantly - >> thank you any of the other members in general public comment seeing none, general public comment is closed. mr. clerk our adaptation calendar. >> items 36 and 37 are considered for immediate draupgs and it will be considered by a single vote. >> item 311. >> the resolution for the

skeptic negotiations within the unified school district and the united educators of san francisco to evading avoid a strike of the education of san francisco students. >> supervisor mar. >> refer to committee okay item 37. >> the motion on the rim fire emergency by the mayor to meet the emergency. >> colleagues, can we take that same house, same call? we'll take that without objection. this is approved workplace mr. clerk any more business before the board. >> memory mentioned for the late grant johnson and thank you sfgovtv jennifer lowe for bringing today's meetings to the homes of san franciscans with that, ladies and gentlemen,

unless there's more business before the board we're adjourne november 4th. >> hello, i'm nona melkonian with sfgovtv along with the legacy of women voters here to talk about measure f a ballot measure on tuesday november 4th measure f is an ordinance that increases the heeblth limit on the acre site from 40 to 90 feet it provides all aspects of the

development other than the height limit will be for subject including the environmental review the height limit will not become until after sequa approves the plan that makes it city policies for the development of the site 9 acres of waterfront parks and recreational areas for the bay and one thousand to 2 thousand for unit most of them will be rentals and thirty percent below market rate for low income folks and restoration of the historic struts and nonprofit and small-scale manufacturing and retail and the prestige located in the pier 70 between one pea 20 million square feet parking

and transportation improvements and a significant number of jobs and revenue for public housing facilities if i vote yes. you want to increase the height limit for new building inspections on the pier 70 from 4 to 900 feet and ugly are courage the environmental review and make that city policy to clus include the job creations for to site if you vote no, not to increase the height limits or adapt the city policy i'm here where kelly pressor with the fair market value measure f and a property and the intellect to the coalition of san francisco neighborhood and a proponent of the measure thank you for being here he i'm to start with opening remarks kelly would you like to go first day f first.

>> thank you very much fourteenth uh-huh tuntd to be here i support it and stand for the coalitions dmrug the form mayor and the essentially and the resident and associations to support measure f and create jobs and housing pier 70 is in an area along the waterfront where people have no access to water measure f will increased the access to the waterfront tearing down the fences that have blocked the access and open it up for parks that's why people have coverage and i did not think the essentially and the democratic and republicans and this for park advocates by coming out to the poodles and supporting measure f. >> tanner's.

>> the coalition for san francisco neighborhood which a is large organization of civic clubs they slit wide open on the issue with no exorbitant it involves and several of the dpw things it san francisco is a small peninsula we have the density population of any of the 48 county as a result people want to increase the population to one million people it is currently 8 hundred and 50 thousand approximately it's a matter of how much in san francisco we'll pay a price for to in terms of accident the and it's accompanying with the right population for san francisco if we go too high a lot of problems. >> kelly how will this impact

the city's future development. >> first, i'd like to be clear the proposition only permanence to pier 70 no other waterfronts on san francisco pier 70 plan has come out with many, many years of community input and outreach and measure f is really an additional step in the possess the ballot measure itself is very clear that the environmental review process sequa as well as the mr. larkin process are not shorthand or limited are subject gaited there will be a thorough study this is an additional check in with 9 county and stakeholders to make sure that folks feel good about what's happening on the pier and good reviews see for the years to come. >> tanner's. >> the reason for measure f

they want to wave the height limits the city chapter was amended where they have the height limits that are binding and have to be waved by public vote that's the problem in terms of a public waiver is needed to build higher than the buildings and one of the problems is this is earthquake country we have seismic problems and the 1906 san francisco earthquake the 1489 earthquake in mri yet and so on as a result, the more high-rise we have the more dangerous for the public we've had a lot of problems over the years and 1906 was the worse how big do we want to build and what's the long term politicians

the less high-rise the less people going to be hurt if we have a serious earthquake like 1906. >> it reduced the demand for the pricing of housing in san francisco. >> as mentioned measure f is fully client with proposition g and san francisco is in serious housing countries today part of the plan for pier 70 is thirty percent of the housing opted below market rate to middle-income and low income folks this is 3 times such as city lay requires but in addition to building housing measure f includes other public benefits 9 acres of parks and playground and that triples the amount of space in dog patch and

there's rehabilitation and historic buildings on the register in the historic district a preservation of an artist community currently at pier 70 by building now studios the investment of $20 million for transportation improvements and 2 hundred million for infrastructure including for earthquake safest and addressing the seawall rise and and terrance. >> the more density in san francisco and we have the highest per family per space and more traffic problems and automobile and diseases and san francisco as some people know 19 hundred to 190 six the bubonic practically they were able to stamp it out it was based on

largely the density of our population we were the largest city on the west coast at the time and basically, what we need to do it st. is keep the population being two dense for a lot of reasons especially we're earthquake country but san francisco has a donates population too much high-rise next to the santa ana dresses fault line and two the north american and we've been hurt but it before and could be again, the last high-rise we had the satisfactory the people. >> we have a little bit of time i'm to get our final remarks first kelly gave the opening statement so terrance.

>> this is what we want to see are for the future of san francisco this was was the board was talking about this was slit wide open a lot of people are concerned about the housing density and all the problems in terms of the earthquake safety and all the issues and automobile accidents, etc. it's a matter of what we want to do for the future of san francisco if we want to pile one million and a half in san francisco this will hurt our mobility and ♪ the event of a major earthquake it could lead to disaster >> kelly your thoughts. >> thank you, again pier 70 was an hub of vibrant activity that is now forgotten and measure f will revitalized this

unacceptable area with waterfront parks and jobs and housing the revitalization needs an investment of $20 million to comploch the transportation and includes the affordable housing 9 arsz or acres will triple the amount of parks in dog patch today and thousands of new jobs that's why measure f has united people to create a consensus it is jiepd by the sierra club and the democratic-republican and green party the affordable housing alliance and many, many organizations and civic leaders i'm to encourage the as follows to vote yes on measure f. >> thank you both to your comments and time we hope this has been forgive for more information go to sf

election.org remember earlier vote at city hall from 8 to 5:00 p.m. or vote two we understand from election day if you don't vote early be sure to vote on election day, tuesday >> hi. welcome to san francisco. stay safe and exploring how you can stay in your home safely after an earthquake. let's look at common earthquake myths. >> we are here at the urban center on mission street in san francisco. we have 3 guest today. we have david

constructional engineer and bill harvey. i want to talk about urban myths. what do you think about earthquakes, can you tell if they are coming in advance? >> he's sleeping during those earthquakes? >> have you noticed him take any special? >> no. he sleeps right through them. there is no truth that i'm aware of with harvey that dogs are aware of an impending earthquake. >> you hear the myth all the time. suppose the dog helps you get up, is it going to help you do something >> i hear they are aware of small vibrations. but yes, i read extensively that dogs cannot realize earthquakes. >> today is a spectacular day in san francisco and sometimes people would say this is

earthquake weather. is this earthquake weather? >> no. not that i have heard of. no such thing. >> there is no such thing. >> we are talking about the weather in a daily or weekly cycle. there is no relationship. i have heard it's hot or cold weather or rain. i'm not sure which is the myth. >> how about time of day? >> yes. it happens when it's least convenient. when it happens people say we were lucky and when they don't. it's terrible timing. it's never a good time for an earthquake. >> but we are going to have one. >> how about the ground swallowing people into the ground? >> like the earth that

collapsed? it's not like the tv shows. >> the earth does move and it bumps up and you get a ground fracture but it's not something that opens up and sucks you up into haddes. >> it's not going anywhere. we are going to have a lot of damage, but this myth that california is going to the ocean is not real. >> southern california is moving north. it's coming up from the south to the north. >> you would have to invest the million year cycle, not weeks

or years. maybe millions of years from now, part of los angeles will be in the bay area. >> for better or worse. >> yes. >> this is a tough question. >> those other ones weren't tough. >> this is a really easy challenge. are the smaller ones less stress? >> yes. the amount released in small earthquakes is that they are so small in you need many of those. >> i think would you probably have to have maybe hundreds of magnitude earthquakes of 4.7. >> so small earthquakes are not making our lives better in the future? >> not anyway that you can count on. >> i have heard that buildings

in san francisco are on rollers and isolated? >> it's not true. it's a conventional foundation like almost all the circumstances buildings in san francisco. >> the trans-america was built way before. it's a pretty conventional foundation design. >> i have heard about this thing called the triangle of life and up you are supposed to go to the edge of your bed to save yourself. is there anything of value to that ? >> yes, if you are in your room. you should drop, cover and hold onto something. if you are in school, same thing, kitchen same thing. if you happen to be in your bed, and you rollover your bed, it's not a bad place to be.

>> the reality is when we have a major earthquake the ground shaking so pronounced that you are not going to be able to get up and go anywhere. you are pretty much staying where you are when that earthquake hits. you are not going to be able to stand up and run with gravity. >> you want to get under the door frame but you are not moving to great distances. >> where can i buy a richter scale? >> mr. richter is selling it. we are going to put a plug in for cold hardware. they are not available. it's a rather complex. >> in fact we don't even use the richter scale anymore. we use a moment magnitude. the richter scale was early technology. >> probably a myth that i hear most often is my building is just fine in the loma prieta

earthquake so everything is fine. is that true ? >> loma prieta was different. the ground acceleration here was quite moderate and the duration was moderate. so anyone that believes they survived a big earthquake and their building has been tested is sadly mistaken. >> we are planning for the bigger earthquake closer to san francisco and a fault totally independent. >> much stronger than the loma prieta earthquake. >> so people who were here in '89 they should say 3 times as strong and twice as long and that will give them more of an

occasion of the earthquake we would have. 10 percent isn't really the threshold of damage. when you triple it you cross that line. it's much more damage in earthquake. >> i want to thank you, harvey, thanks pat for >> good afternoon, everyone, welcome to the san francisco board of supervisors budget and finance committee meeting, for wednesday, october first, 2014, my name is mark farrell and i will be chairing and i