important. >> my concern i think it's wonderful and so important that we are saying that these are the projects we are prioritizing for a 24-month period. and that is good, because it holds the city family accountable, not just talk with it but deliver them in 24 months and period, and end of story. when i look at a project that is happening supposedly in my district, the diamond embosswell area that is a mess. and tom (inaudible) obtained money for that list, we are in 2014 and no work has been done. and it drags on and on, and i don't know why it's not in construction. the concern whether or not there is an attempt to do something or the funding available. if it doesn't make it on the

list that we hold ourselves accountable for a 24-month delivery. we see more diamond and bosworth and it continues even though the money is sitting there. that's my concern, i know that the mta and the other agencies have the best intentions. and not disagreement of what needs to happen but to get the momentum to make them a reality. >> good feedback, and we will take that into consideration. and frame that and take into consideration, if you want updates on those projects, we will get you updates on those projects. i am getting a sense from the committee that you want to hold us accountable on this list, whether planned before or in the future, and we will go month by month and we may need your help to get resources or staffing.

>> i don't want consideration, i would like a response today, and also district 4. i mean there are some terrible intersections there, and terrible streets, 19th avenue. and some overlap into district 7 and district 4 is also almost absent from this list. >> we will get back. we will get back to that and come back with an appropriate set of lists for both districts. and have a discussion as a committee which projects you want to add or subplant off the existing list. because we want to deliver something in 24 months. >> thank you, and like i said, often in our office, we are a small office with four people. we think that we have the same understanding of words. and it's often helpful for us to check in and have the same agreement. i want to make mention that sixth and howard i brought up many times, and frustrated it's

on the list. and i understand there is a change in staffing and she knew it wasn't appropriate to be on that list, and i understand a change in staffing. i realize there are some changes made, our work district group made changes and add some things and subplant projects that our residents thought were a higher priority. i want to change the structure, mrs. hunter, instead of all 40, i think that everyone has had an opportunity to read through 40. and we will have an opportunity to ask questions and feedback, i have commissioner mar on the roster. >> thank you, chair kim, i am in agreement with chair breed. looking at the areas and key intersections with the most conflicts and accidents and deaths is critical. and being equitable from a

city-wide level looking at these projects is very important. and i am sensitive to what supervisor wiener is saying to give something to each district. but to me it's looking at the most dangerous areas. and on the list it's masonic and geary. and i am pleased that the small but significant traffic calming is important. but i don't want to knit pick or micro-manage, but item 15 isn't in district 5 at all, it should be just districts 1 and 2. and to supervisor wiener's point, district 2 has nothing on here, but the things on my list share in district 2. you have to include not only for 15, it's included and masonic and union terrace is district 1 and 2. and that's item 35. and item 36, geary and palm, is

districts 1 and 2 as well from my understanding. thank you. >> commissioner breed. >> thank you, i just have a couple of comments. i appreciate supervisor wiener and supervisor mar's feedback on this in terms of relating accidents to how these projects are determined. i think what i had expected when we talked about moving these projects forward is that we would have a clear understanding of the most dangerous intersections. and how they related to the project. i know there is a map here that shows us those particular areas. but i guess the challenge i am experiencing is trying to connect the projects to the map. so my expectation would be that we make sure that we are addressing those issues with some of the most dangerous intersections throughout our ci

city, regardless of the district. and even looking at what is happening in my district. there are intersections they know for certain that are problematic that are not a part of the plan. and my concern is that we are not doing what i expected with vision zero, that is to address those areas most problematic. having a list that lists them out is great. but i guess prioritizing them in a way that explains how it relates to the data of those particular areas. and the accidents that occur in those particular areas. and i guess i can give an example, so i make sure i am being clear. in my district we have webster street from fulton to sutter. and i want to understand the data for that, as well as understand why that was chosen.

rather than turk street and eddie street, that tiknow f-- that i know for sure that there is a lot of collisions on that street. and i know for certain that golden gate is a problem going east down the hill towards steiner. there is areas where there is a number of accidents and bicyclists and pedestrians. just trying to understand how these were prioritized over others. and a comparison of those particular areas based on the numbers. so i can make a better decision about whether or not i can wholeheartedly support these projects or support something else. >> that is good feedback and something that we heard at the task force meeting is telling a story about a project. and that is something that we can do. we have that data, so we know

along this corridor what the collision factors were. and so we can definitely bring that information forward. >> and then the last comment i had, and this is probably taken place before regarding the bulb outs. we have especially during rainy seasons a lot of back-up with our sewage. i am not certain what the decision of the bulb out are made and how they are addressed so they are better what exists, to help avoid the back-up that we sometimes experience during the rain. i want to put that out there, as something that i hope can be addressed when making plans to place these bulb outs in certain locations. >> of course. >> i wanted to add taking a step back to the map, which is some

background regarding bicyclists and pedestrian high-traffic corridors that were identified with the collaboration of mta, and include where both cyclists and pedestrian injuries are concentrated and taking into account where the most severe were concentrated. and this includes 60% of the most fatal areas in the city. from that higher level that was a real consideration of respect of where these projects are. >> thank you, and i expect it to be made clear looking at project. they are listed and i appreciate that was the case. >> communicating it. >> yes. and also because from my perspective i am not certain if what is relevant in my district, for example, based on my

experiences actually make sense for the projects chosen. trying to have an understanding of that would be helpful, thank you. >> commissioner yee, did you have any other comments? >> well, it's part of this agenda item, and i know you didn't get there yet. so we have these 40 projects and then you have a section here that talks about add-backs. >> yes. >> and then the add-backs were for this fiscal year and next. there were -- through last year through the participatory process and we had funding measures, is that reflected

anywhere in this presentation? and the question i really have for that is, these are fairly small projects throughout district 7. and this funding for it -- so i am just wondering whether or not the time line on that is going to be -- well, i just wonder what the time line is. we have funding and the project, can we go? >> so you are looking for more information, like scheduled-type information for these add-backs? >> um, yeah, but for last year. >> last year? >> the funding was for last fiscal year. in regards to, by the time that we selected, we, meaning the community in district 7. selected the projects, there were nine of them. the funding has been allocated

and transferred to i believe mta. and then so now i am just wondering whether the time line would be, delayed or what. and whether or not -- to me it also makes sense if we are doing this through our participatory budgeting in each district. these projects should be added, as a project -- not part of the 24, or 40. but just as an addition to. >> to track. >> yeah, because it really, to me these are projects that the neighborhoods that are important to support vision zero. >> of course. so we can look into the add-back funding you provided last fiscal year and provide an update. >> yeah, and part of this. >> yeah, okay. >> and i really apologize, because i really want to stay

for the entire discussion. but i also wanted a break-down of this $21 million. the full $21.2 million and what the source of funding is. so i want to have have a complete understanding of where the money is coming from. and is there a gap -- oh, in the dollars to make sure that we are doing our job, making sure that we fund these projects adequately. and if there is projects under funded as commissioner wiener brought up that we want to be sure that mta is there to deliver. >> with this we have scope and schedule and now an estimated budget for each of the individual projects. part of the consideration with which funding sources would be used, has to do with the time when that project would happen. as of today with regard to the 40 and $21 million, we are

confident that between the revenue bonds and k-sales tax and operating funds for bicycle and pedestrian improvements. plus the add-back money that you supported and the mayor's office that we can fully fund the 21. and in the next cycle, we can provide project-by-project plan, we didn't want to do that yet, and maximize the sales tax versus a revenue bond that can only be used for certain things in a certain period. now that we have clarity on timing and funding amount we can plug in that. and with the sources and prop bonds that the revenue bond can be fully funded. >> it would be great -- i don't need per project, that is a lot of work, but the breakdown of

the total aggregate and that we are funding the projects properly. >> i want to point out something. when we talk about the status of these projects and when i look at what we -- where we are with these things. like predevelopment. design. preconstruction. environmental and all of this. i guess this is a part of me that is wondering really, these are completed projects? in other words, as a layman, when a project is finished. i am trying to design it and now i complete the design. so. what is the impact on the safety? i design something. so i am just questioning whether we should define completed project differently. in my mind a completed project

is when it's done, actually going to help the situation. and people will see that it's done. i don't know how other people feel on this -- >> that point, that's a good point. the difference between something that is complete and an intersection is fixed. we won't have any other collisions there. versus something is implemented and we need to evaluate it and make sure that is actually going to address the problems we have identified. is what we think are the collision factors. am i understanding you correctly, something that is complete and how we evaluate it? >> yeah, again you are designing something that is predeveloped to be preconstruction to be finished. >> right. >> for me, when it's finished, that's completed.

>> right. so the status column is where we are right now, where the project is. and the estimated completion is when it would actually be in the ground. >> excuse me, what you are saying the phase it's in. when it says, complete, the project is completed. there is nothing else to do. the status is the phase that the project is in. so it goes in the planning design phase, the construction phase, and when it's finished it's complete. that's how we do all of our construction projects in the city. >> okay, for instance, if i take any item. say item 19. and right now, today it's in the predevelopment. but we are anticipating that the whole project would be finished by june. >> june of next year. in between now and june of next year, you will see three more phases of status update. >> thank you very much, that is

helpful. >> sorry that wasn't clear. >> i don't see anymore questions or comments from this commission. i mean right now. so we can go back, if there are more. but at this time i want to open up for public comment on this item. >> good morning, commissioners, my name is nicole snyder, the executive director of walk san francisco. i want to thank mta for the progress they presented. and to take a step back to january of this year, when we worked with you all to shape a vision zero resolution. and then worked with mta and other agencies. at that time we were advocating

for a crisis intervention team to correct intersections where collisions had happened and react to the collisions and do engineering at those intersections. i think we have shifted a little bit to take more of a long-term approach to look at not just immediate responses. but collisions over the last five years or 10 years, and where those intersections are. and the main thing we were ad advocating for and there was an item that we couldn't tackle to our level and to go above the projects to add 24 projects. and i think again in april -- no, in june when we worked with all on add-backs to create new projects, those were meant to be

new projects [bell] i want to highlight that we really appreciate the vision zero list and appreciate all the hard work. and we know that the city is putting a lot of work and effort in this. and this is a perfect venue to ask the question, what do we need to advance new projects? what can the cta board help and provide to the mta or who needs it to create new projects. to really help us achieve our goal of ending deaths. thanks. >> any other -- please come up. just as a speaker finishes. mrs. gold thank you for being here. >> thank you, i was hoping there would be an answer to the last part of her question. >> we will answer her question, public comment doesn't allow a response. >> real fast, this is new to me,

i would like sfta to address what exactly is a road diet and what does leading pedestrian interval mean. and also in conjunction to what the last speaker asked, are these projects written in stone. are there additional projects that are not yet on the table yet. thank you. >> thank you, mrs. gold. >> my name is debbie gold and i live in district 6. >> to the committee project for the san francisco city with the pedestrian safety and without furthermore just like california (inaudible) accident, thursday. (inaudible) although it's related to the city, and

richmond district, and (inaudible) but action related to the city. just accident and (inaudible) 10 weeks ago, see, in the morning like (inaudible) in the morning, like 70 years lady and a lovely son and chinese lady get killed. (inaudible) traffic. so the only way to resolve such a conflict is to please make a decision (inaudible) i mean in the street you have to have ultimate (inaudible) of your thinking and thought and how you apply yourself. your pathway. even for older people and in chinatown grocery, you have to consider good objective and don't (inaudible) consider traffic and waste time for people going out to places. no sense to go randomly without

a real objective. (inaudible) without good concern. so it should lead to (inaudible) for that person (inaudible) [bell] >> thank you. >> good morning, commissioners. i am leah, with the san francisco bicycle coalition. i want to build on the comments of nicole snyder, with walk san francisco. we work closely with you and staff from various departments, and thank you for taking seriously the goals of vision ze zero, elevating that. and i think that we have strayed and moved away from the urgency. it was to be crisis intervention and it was addressing what we believe is not a responsive system. we are not fixing the streets fast enough. no one likes that, i don't blame anyone here.

but we are not fixing our streets fast enough. this list is a great list but looks like list we have seen before that are great lists that get slowed down. and thank you commissioner kim for bringing up sixth and howard. and the one that gets me is market and tobias, and it slowly became a vision zero project, but i don't think it should count to the 24 to get done. i encourage you to stay on that and ask the city to go back and update what the new projects are that will get done. i think it will help them to figure out why the system isn't working. it's not working. is it money? staffing? we don't know, but i ask you to use your work to do that.

[bell] last we don't want is vis -- vision zero to be a buzz word, we need to make change. >> thank you, we will miss you tremendously. >> good morning, supervisors, my name is mark fong, i am a partner at attorneys in san francisco, good morning, commissioner yee. i am here in sort of a crisis intervention mode to speak on behalf of the family of fong lee who was killed at the intersection of sacramento and stockton street on saturday, september 20. three days after she lost her life, while the tv cameras were there filming. there was another resident of the same senior housing project

where mrs. yim lived, who was struck in the same intersection and cross walk. and he was seriously injured. so there is going to be a memorial at the intersection tomorrow at 10 a.m. it is going to be attended by some of your colleagues. i think supervisor chiu is going to speak. there will be members of the family who will make remarks. reverend fong from chinatown cdc will be leading a prayer for mrs. yim. and i wanted to stress as the attorney for the family, i have begun an investigation into this intersection. [bell] i have lived here my whole life and recognized it to be very busy. but shocked to find out when i inquired of the mta zone traffic

surveys that over the last nine years, and these are simply reported traffic accidents. of course we know many other accidents happen that don't get reported. and many others don't get turned into collision reports. in the last nine years there was 22 collisions at the intersection resulting in 29 injuries and two fatalities. i spoke with several business owners at the intersection. as part of beginning my investigation. and they were quite certain that over the last 20 years there has been five to six deaths that they are personally aware of at this intersection. far away the greatest number of accidents occurred -- >> sorry that is your time, sorry, i thought it was the little bell but the big bell. >> thank you, and i hope you support the memorial for the family tomorrow.

>> seeing no public comment, i will closing comment on this item [gavel] i apologize, it looks like we are going to lose kwquorum for this meeting, i am not sure -- okay. i don't, yeah, i am speaking at 11:15. i am down the street. so i think what we will do is take a recess until we can find a third member of the board to take over. and i do ask that we reschedule vision zero back to thursday, so that we can all keep our quorum. the original date that vision zero committee was set for. and i will make a couple of comments, yes there is a prayer and memorial for a senior resident that was killed at sacramento and stockton at 10

a.m. tomorrow, and we hope that folks will be able to attend. and know that this is not the list, but this is an intersection that we need to look at. those left turns are the top violations that lead to fatalities on that intersection. and we have so many pedestrians in chinatown, we definitely have to prioritize that intersection. and i do want to appreciate all the work. i don't want to be a session to give mta a hard time. we want to be sure that there is clear understanding what have we mean by vision zero, and near-term improvements. and i think that the discussion is helpful, and understanding what is included on this list, and what should be continued to be pursued whether on the list or not. and i agree with commissioner yee, and if projects in the future and able to speedup, as a priority, and that is included on the list.

i think this discussion is helpful, we can't talk to each other due to the brown act to be sure we are on the same page. i know that we have two other items, update on enforcement activities and the vision zero progress report. so i will return to make sure, if not able to find a member, we will regain quorum again. >> (inaudible). >> i did have that question when not in quorum, doesn't mean that we can make motion on the comment. >> this is legal counsel, in order to conduct business you have to have a quorum. you can hold a workshop, you have to recess the meeting or find another. >> we did hold a committee member last thursday without quorum. and we weren't