and they have got a desk clerk, and you know, they can be more tolerant of different kinds of behaviors and so, we would look at that. and for the scattered site ones, and that is our first choice and we would like the people to be out in the community as much as possible. and for the most part, it worked well, with the wrap around services. sometimes issues would arise around screening or behavior or friends, or alcohol, or drugs. west bay housing did a really good job of working with the management in the buildings. and they would, they would get on any issues and we, a lot of time, we bring in the case management and we really try to ease the situation and sometimes we have to move the people out, in order to retain the relationship with those

buildings. and if we moved them out, we would probably move them into a dah, building, one of them, and sometimes the people, and in and the people that were in a dah building and the things really settled for them and we would move them out of the building into a more independent and we also, ran into some problems, and we a couple of people that we set them up in really nice apartments and really nice buildings and these were folks, both of them had been homeless for a very long time, and they really had trouble with adjusting to being in the whole apartment and in that kind of a setting, and we ended up moving them into sro buildings. >> i saw that. >> and they, you know, they did really well. there was, and they had a level, and so, you know, we had our own and we wanted to put them in a nice place and that worked for us and it did not work to them and so, it is, it

is, it really opened our eyes to really looking at what is that person is saying, and how can they best cope,? what do they need? and, you know, our focus is maybe, like somebody should stop drinking but that is not realistic but how do we allow them to live in the community and carry on and have the choices of how they want to live. >> one more thing is that we also found that people had a lot and we were surprised at how much mental health issues, were a problem.

it has made a difference in the terms of the case managers knowing how best to deal with the people, but also, to be able to make a connection with them. and allowing the people to live, how they want to leave and for us not to be judge mental, and just learning. >> yeah. >> and if i can hole the mic for one more, and i am going to try to combine a couple of things in one question partly i think that it relates to the peer mentor program that is tabled for a moment, but it also, it might relate to some of the demographic profiles that are trends, like, you know, 77 percent male, and a little bit younger, than i might have expected the population to be. and the ethic diversity patterns don't seem to match perfectly to the general, ethic diversity stats of the city. and so, i am wondering, you

know, what is the thought? peer mentorship seems like a really lynch pin concept. and depending upon how this works and i am wondering if some of the demographics are working against that? or not? >> so i just say, that the peer mentor program out of the ihs public authority, is where they primarily someone, who is disabled is going to be leaving laguna honda hospital or thinking about it any way. the public authority would match them with the peer who has a disability, and who lives in the community, to talk to them about how, and just how it is. to live in the community. and how it is to get around. and how... >> and actually take them out. >> how do you go to the bank? how do you do this and ride muni? >> right, so it is a very practical, and so, i think that what we are seeing, at laguna honda is that this younger

population, is primarily caucasian, yes, there is some diversity but a lot of disabled middle aged, or younger, white, males. and so, i think that whenever we look at our dem graphics, you know, i am always asking, what kind of out reach are we doing? are we making sure that we are getting? and i think that if you look at this program, over almost, ten years now and not quite, but close, you will see that there were years when we had you know the greater diversity and now, we are, and we have got, kind of this population that we are looking at. >> and does that give you some... >> okay. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> could we... >> yeah. >> and okay. >> thank you. when the veterans and so we have a third piece of the report. >> i don't see mine. >> it is stapled into this. >> okay. >> and so, i think that again, this is a report, that rose

johns was a graduate student at the time that they did it now on the staff prepared for us, and i would just ask her to share some highlights with you, because i think that this gives you a deeper look into both (inaudible). >> good morning, commissioners. so, as... >> you might want to pull the mic up. >> yeah. >> and so anne has the report that i completed when i was in graduate school and uc berkeley public policy and social master's program and now i am with the hsf planning as six weeks ago and i think that you actually started pulling from some of the data in my report in what you were just talking about because it is stapled to the back of the six-month report that you received. >> yes. >> but just to highlight a couple of key points, i think, what linda and i really were interested in or noticed, in

the data was that the population that i was focusing on, which is those consumers served by both clf, and the dsip deversion and we noticed that they tend to be middle aged and male. and that is notable, because often the people think about seniors, and when we are talking about taking people out of skilled nursing facilities, but this population does tend to be younger. which means that they have a lot more time ahead of them that we can help them live more fully, in the community. part of this project was looking at this clf purchase, services. and what i found was that services both in terms of the total dollars spent and the number of purchases tended to be clustered around the discharge and they were primarily related to setting up a home. for these individuals, who are leaving laguna honda and had not lived in the community for a long time and so a lot of the purchases were things like

putting in a stair lift. or, putting down a rental subsidy. and or excuse me, a rental deposit. and i think that something that we are pleased to see is that based on my attempt to do a cost calculation that was more comprehensive and i looked at the costs as well as housing costs and through the meals through the office on aging what we found is that the cost of putting these people, pulling them out of laguna honda and to support them, appears to be much lower than the cost of living in honda for a year i think. i calculated the cost of supporting someone in the community is $32,000 that is not a comprehensive cost estimate, a lot of these consumers are accessing other services through the department of public health that i didn't have data on. this cost, 32,000, is much

lower than the projected cost in the year in laguna honda, which is $32,000 for one year. >> and those are the highlights, any questions or do you want to move on with the agenda today? >> i heard you say that you wanted to move on. >> and no in questions, for the..., okay. >> other than to say thank you for doing the work. >> yeah. >> it was quite enjoyable. >> thank you. >> it says the veteran history project. >> right. >> yeah. >> okay. >> good morning, commissioners president james, and director hinton thank you so much for having me here this morning, my name is gabriel ledeen and i am an attorney here in san francisco and i am going to talk about a federal initiative called the veteran's history project. and ask for your help in reaching senior veterans here in san francisco. >> you looking at two.

>> and i know that and thank you for your service and i am also a veteran and i served in the marine as an officer for four years and that is why this project is so important to me. >> okay. >> the pro-yekt and a product of the federal statute and congress directed the library of congress to establish the program in 2000. and since then, they have collected, a stories of over 90,000 american veteran and they have archived them and made them publicly available through the library, and on-line, data base and also, physically and in dc through the archives. the library relies on the volunteers for these stories of veterans and the volunteers like myself, go out and find, the set ran and interview them, and record those interviews and then submit them along with the required paperwork to the library of congress, where they are archived. and now the library has

encouraged us to focus our efforts on senior veterans, particularly world war ii, because the population is rapidly dwin delling and way nt to capture those while they are still here and available for interviews and now. the most difficult part of this process and locating these veterans and extending to participate in the program, and that is why i am here today. and i have reached out to the office on aging and adult services and we had a meeting last week, we sat down at a table and she proposed a fantastic idea that we sit down and have a meeting with the activities directors for several of the senior centers in the san francisco area. and we are planning on doing that. i am here today to let you know about this project and the effort to locate the veteran and to ask you about any help that the commission can give in extending our invitations to the veterans in the san

francisco area, who are participating in the program and i am happy to take any questions. >> i have an invitation for you. >> okay. >> come october 11th, that is saturday, the american legoion, we meet once a month, 1524, power street. >> okay. >> across the street is (inaudible). >> great. >> you probably know some of those members. >> i probably do. october 11th, and i will be there. >> thank you very much. >> and 11:30. >> and good lunch at 12. >> outstanding. i mean, that these meetings tend to be the best way to find veterans particularly senior veterans and i have attended numerous meetings in the east bay, over in concord, they have a meeting every third thursday of the month in the back of a dennies and brings over 100 veteran and on the d-day commemoration, they had five

stand up and tell their stories of par participating in the d-day, invasion. and so, thank you for the invitation, i will be there. >> i would just suggest that most of these veterans are probably getting health services, and so i hope that you have been out to the va hospital, a lot of them are in the cafeteria, and just, they have different venues outside and around and so most of them are already getting care. and so you just step out to the va hospital. and there are a lot in the lobby and i know that ucsf has free, not ucsf, but uc berkeley, their law school had a program that they were giving advice free legal advice to veterans so, you might want to have a little table out there and i am sure that you will get a lot of stories out there. >> out standing, i appreciate that recommendation as well. >> one other, and have you been in touch with sldn.

>> no. >> and i think that i have that right and i will pull it up and i know that i don't have the service to pull it up. >> it is lgbt advocacy organization and they were formed to work for the don't ask don't tell and i think that it exists in the city and headquarters here and there are two people that i know, zoe doning is one that you may remember as a navy officer that was drumed out of the military and has had a very successful career in the community, and sthe will be a resource for you and, bob dokendorf who has been active in that organization and he is a retired navy officer. >> fantastic, i will reach out to them. thank you. >> one of the things, too, and because i work with the library, and they have story corp, which is it regarding older and i am working with them, and they are recording older people history and they have got to do that with older

african americans in their history in san francisco. and so, they may be something that you might want to use their services. >> absolutely. >> and so i have a meeting at 11:30, so... >> okay, i will talk to them. thank you so much. >> and commissioners i advise you and i would love to sit down and do your interviews if you would like to participate in the program. >> i have some stories. >> okay. >> thank you so much. and unless there are any further questions? >> i appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> okay. public comment? >> hi, again, i will make this quick i wanted to give an update on the work that we have all talked about as far as improving the conditions in sors and people with disabilities and we have a film training about the lifes of the residence of the in the hotel and that will be on the 21st, from 2:00 to 4:00 at the san

francisco main library and that is free and open to all. thank you. >> and okay. and thank you, >> what time was it? >> 2:00 >> yeah. >> 2:00 >> okay. >> review and approval of the fiscal year 2014/15 california department of aging, supplementary nutrition assistance program, education snap, ed, contract sp 1415-06, and all subsequent ad mendments staff, linda lau. could i have a motion to discuss? >> so moved. >> second. >> it is moved and seconded. >> okay. >> good morning commissioner and director, our department of aging adult services is requesting approval to enter in

a new contract with the california department of aging, and to participate in one-time program called the supplementary nutrition assistance program, education, and it is called snap ed for short and the state, actually, received 2.5 million dollars, of federal funding, and to fund that 20 par participating area agencis on aging and we are one of them. and so san francisco, we are based on the interstate funding for that and we will be receiving 119,000, and 84 dollars for the fiscal year of 14, 15 and we have an agreement with the state, to select three low income senior news sites or housing sites, and that meets the requirements which is 185 percent of federal poverty level for the dem graphics and

we propose to it and the project is several found and one of the ideas is to by growing and harvesting and having these gardens, and the urban gardens that they will be able to increase the access to the healthy food as well as also the activity and the physical activitis that they might enjoy. and we will be working with the recreation and parks department to help with this project and they have a lot of expertise in this area, and we already reached out to them, and they have some contracts that they already work with that have the expertise to help us build the gardens in the sellive sites as part of this project and this is to provide the education and so there will be usda approved,

curriculum to include and for these participants for these sites and one of the approved curriculums is esmart and live strong and we will be using that along with the other tools that they will provide to us and part of the project is to be able to evaluate the preand post test to see what the impacts will be. and we will provide the programs and offer these to the selective sites and one of them is ti chi and moving for better balance and this is, there are contractors, and that are able to have been certificated to be able to provide this and so we will be subcontracting, and to offer this train to trainer type of program, and so that,

sites that will, that are interested in offering this, will be able to send, either a staff, or a volunteers to attend this training, and then, bring it back to the program, and then there will be staff to basically, help over see the program, and then making sure that it is implemented in appropriately, and along with that, there will be other curriculum called eating smart and living strong and i mentioned about that, but the important component of that is to include, food demonstrations, and ways for people to help pace and give back and that is important, and it is not enough to share the information, to be able to offer them practical skills to be able to do that. >> and so, we asked for your approval to accept this grant from the california department of aging and adult services. and if you have any questions, i will be happy to entertain.

>> have you selected a site? we are in the process. and we have proposed to the cba that we will start the federal fiscal year starts in october. and so, this month, and we have, we, once this is approved, we actually will go through the process of selecting appropriate sites that will be able to meet the requirements of the state has. >> and have you selected the site yet? >> we have not. and there are, and there are potential sites that actually meet and a lot of the requirements and so, we have candidates and we have yet to meet with them. and to you know, work out the details, and of course, part of the process, that we have and we any needed to follow the contracting process and making sur that it is appropriate. >> and should this (inaudible)

be able to start off in october? like maybe, in december first? okay? and can the money be carried over to the following year? >> we believe that we will be able to spend the money by june 2015. >> yeah. >> thank you. >> june 2015. or next september? >> yeah. >> no, it is june, 2015. we need to spend the money. >> yeah. >> permission... >> yeah. and commissioner, lau was kind of asking the similar questions because i was confused about the dates, because the document was issued on august the 12 and this it dates the availability of funds, july first, yes. >> we are talking about it in october. >> so let me clarify that. >> and the funding, actually was available, in july, but, because the late notice and everything else, we some decided to actually start and were able to start sooner, but

for us, with our other things going on, we said and we will not be able to, and so for us, we, told the state, that we will implement our program, it will be from october through june. and the money is actually available. and you know, we were finally got the contract from the state and the paperwork has been signed, but, we can't complete the grant process, until we have this approved by the commission, as well. >> and my follow up question is, it seems like a lot to accomplish with a little less than $120,000. and there is no actual program budget in support of this. that i saw. but i see how you are going to spend that money to accomplish the three major goals. >> we have the budget that was the best estimate that we

submitted to the state and that is the best estimate and we can update that once we have our contracts awarded. and i know that this, and i know that budget was not included in your packet, but yes, for the administration for the particular program, and it will be in-kind, in terms of staffing for myself, kind of over seing that, but we will be awarding for the gardening project, if i recall is approximately, $60,000 and about half of the budget will be for the gardening project and the other half is for the education pieces which will include, of course, some contracting for the staffing and the nutritionist, or the other trained educators to be able to deliver the curriculum and capture all of the data required for the reporting in evaluations, and as well as supply from the materials for the food demonstrations etc..

>> and yeah, so the tichi trainer for example. >> it is included. correct. >> that is a one time, consulting, position in terms of contracting out, with the trainer, and that is estimated to be about just one day training, and it is about 1500, and so it is a two day training, yeah. >> and i will just say that if this was and if we had to establish these programs really from the ground up and the truth is that because we have the nutrition providers and we are partnering with the park and rec and we do have the people in the community that do the evidence based programs and that gives us the leg up and if we did not have that, i think that you are correct, we will be starting to spend, even though this is not in any way a lot of money and it is a lot of money to spend in that period

of time. >> they want to require that we collaborate with the other departments like the department of public health, and the other and the uc extension and the other entities that are already are receiving the snap ed money and they are receiving for a number of years. and this is our first year. but they have, experience, and we will be collaborating with them, to do three health fares and to be able to get the messages out, and they are and, so that is really does, and that really helps us to get things moving quickly. >> are the health fares already existing and ongoing and plug into an existing health fair? >> yeah. >> and where are the under served parts of the county that you described in the second

paragraph? >> the bay view. >> and the western has the pockets where you know, seniors are, and there is not a lot of resources there, and there is quite a bit of need. they are working with the rec and park for the gardening project and so there are actually, and one of the prime candidates, and that we will be approaching, them, and they have expressed interest and so we actually did a survey to find out, you know, have a meeting with some of the providers to say who is interested, and this is kind of coming up, and so we got some preliminary data already.

>> okay. commissioner loo? >> this is the first that you have the project, will it be continuing the funding coming in or just one time only? >> it is a one time only, funding, and this state, is hopeful that if the things work out well, they will reapply and that they will get another year. >> yes, because otherwise, you spend the money to do the project and it is wasted and it should be continuing. >> we hope so, >> i think that is the reason that we picked these three topics and because the ti chi is training the trainer and so we are hopeful that we use the money to train the folks and maybe we can get the folks coming in and depending on the key partners and the gardens we are hoping will be sustain able, and that volunteers and the folks will work on those and i think that the educational piece of this, and the materials and others, and we would work really hard to see that that is maintained in

the community. and but you are correct, it is always hard to get the money and not have it again and i think that the staff has been very diligent at really looking that why are those programs that if we never got a dime again in this program, would have some success in sustaining themselves in and so, good comment, though. >> thank you. >> any other questions? >> okay. >> any other questions? >> okay. if not, i will call for the vote. all in favor? >> aye. >> opposed? >> ayes have it, so the motion is carried. thank you. >> public comment at this time? >> public comment? >> hearing none, announcements? >> announcements? hearing none, public comment,

hearing none. i call for a motion to adjourn. >> so moved. >> second. >> it has been moved and seconded that we adjourn the meeting. >> and thank you. >> meeting is adjourned. >> impede to the october 8, 2014, meeting of san francisco board of appeals presiding officer is