need to build a culture that is inspiring to our history just as this -- body restores a lifeline. i have a wall of photos that shows the teatro zinzanni. i am in support for it's people and management. they are amazing and continue to do so. i not only represent myself but everyone that item brought to this show and as a business leader. i have to say that everyone knew that i was coming and everyone said, please, represent and say this has to happen. i appreciate your support of this enterprise and wish your votes propel it quickly

>> i represent 14 businesses. i think i'm here today as a small business owner and what's important when you are reporting on your local small business participation successes of which you have a number of them, what we hear today is the magic of small business embodied with teatro zinzanni and creating magic with jobs and with this project we are talking about creating jobs that are sustainable for artist who are small

business owners. you don't see that very often. you rarely see it. you see construction projects. but those come and go, here we are talking about sustainable jobs for small businesses who really create the magic in san francisco and what san francisco is all about. absolutely support this project. i have known darius and dave for 0 20 years. they support minorities, women, lgbt chambers, this is really a great project for san francisco. thank you. >> good afternoon, i have a

business here and we supplied over $1 million of supplies on the construction of the cruise terminal. i got to see at the time row zinzanni when i was first in san francisco, i was 12. that was quite a while ago. i think this will really really benefit the city. i this i the proposed promise with at tetro zinzannicitizens >> after judith. >> i didn't realize i was signing up to be a speaker but i'm happy to do so. i love every moment i spent at teatro zinzanni because it

was only going to be here six 6 months. we were still going, i took my grandchildren. i remember one show, my little grandson who was this big he got so excited when the puppet master came to talk to him. he literally fell onto the floor. it's such a spirit and magic. please do your best to bring it back. we do miss it terribly. >> thank you. my name is patrick marshall and i appreciate the opportunity of allowing teatro zinzanni for coming back. i had the pleasure of working for them. when i came an aboard i need to learn quickly about the show and

operations. i think what i found most productive at the time was the broad and early 20s to post retirement age. the other thing that surprised me was teatro zinzanni's audience shows that 90 percent of the customers would approve. this accounts for significant number of ticket sales. as you heard many people loved the show. teatro zinzanni can be the integral part for the bay area and dmunt. -- community. you have heard others speak about tz local to community. they were a customer to the local

foods, restaurants and beverages including the local wine industry. we employee 79 people annually in management, restaurant, kitchen staff, bar staff, weight staff, production and operations, musicians, box office and sales. 79 people supporting their families, with health and benefits each of them bay area resident also contributing to the local economy. in addition to the staff there were approximately two 2-dozen part-time staff working throughout the year. if they lived in san francisco they contributed to healthy san francisco on their behalf. also teatro zinzanni served many local businesses with events and corporate groups who are a large part of the business. tz san francisco entertained

over 150,000 people. finally teatro zensey -- zinzanni unique upon the business but a contributor to a vibrant and memorable water front experience. thank you. >> good afternoon, my name is karen goodwin. we have been there for 37 years, i have been there for 29. the bay club is a 90,000 square foot athletic club and we started a relationship years ago and lasted until they disclose closested in december 2011. they were located across the street from the club. it was a beneficial

relationship. the staff and performers had a great place to work out. they purchased food in our cafe. we also had some of the performers teaching classes. we received tickets in trade, used them for new member appropriations, member referral promotions and employee perks and executive teams to host dinners for clients. so all in all it was a very win win situation for us and we are in full support of bringing them back. thank you. jed williams. thank you for letting me

speak today. i'm an enormous fan of tv and i have been taking my money to seattle and i don't like doing that as much as i like coming to our fantastic port. it's what you have done in looking forward is amazing. from the golden gate all the way to the bay bridge and to the baseball park and beyond. it's just phenomenal. this would be a jewel in that and i just think it would be terrible if it got away unlike tony bennett leaving his heart in san francisco. i would love to see them back. >> i'm john stuart. along with wells whitney i'm a neighbor. i live on telegraph hill road.

in my other life i'm with a company that owns and develops mixed income housing. the project that's most immediate is north beach place 341 -unit project on bay and taylor which we developed about eight 8 years ago with two other partners and i hope the community likes it. i slightly different can't i would like to offer in support of this strongly. i am confident that in proceeding with this you are getting a really good development team that will do what they say they are going to do, there are a lot of development teams who shall remain unnamed that don't, this one will. i'm confident the architecture although compatible with what you have now and confident they will achieve the financing they need to and if i

were the controller of the san franciscocity of san francisco i would say they have a big define at -- deficit and the bubble that we are experiencing at the moment, this will add sustainability and a very large tax increase to the city which it needs. i would encourage you to proceed with this thing. post haste, when people visit us on telegraph hill, where to go, i usually suggest beach babylon because of the stooshlt institutionality to it. this will be that genre, it will be there for a long time. it's a point of entertainment. i support it entirely. thank you.

>> last but not least. stanley morris. >> hi, my name is stanley morris. along with my partners we were the operators for 12 years. it was the sad thing that we left but during that time, it's very rare for an arts organization to become a cultural institution in san francisco. it takes a lot of work and the gentleman who spoke about babylon being here. we would be thrilled if it could come back to the water front and i would encourage you to ask the

folks downtown. thank you very much. >> that was the last of the speaker cards i have but if there is anyone else who would like to speak please come forward for public comment. is there any additional public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioner ooh! woo hoo? >> i can't imagine being here. i'm appreciate that. i think the concept is very interesting. i think we are interested in understanding more of the details and this is an evolution of what was originally another concept which we heard about months ago. i think that we are looking

forward to seeing this move, but i do have a question on the design and i guess for the architect. it looks like today on the design or the map that the port gave us that there is access all the way through embarcadero and looks like your proposal would change that. there wouldn't be any access through from a vehicle standpoint, but it would be part of the public space. i just want to clarify how that works? >> thank you, commissioner, i will answer that for the port. right now technically there is a vallejo street. it was never vacated. it's a port property and it was not given a c lot number. right now c lot 23 and 24 and that section of vallejo is operated as a single parking lot. there is no building on it obviously but essentially as many other

little stubs of streets that don't necessarily go all the way to embarcadero, there is another one to lot 21 is a similar situation. so i realized after the in fact this should actually include that stub of vallejo as part of the project site because that's how it's leased right now. >> say, it's part of lot c 23 or 24? >> i think neither but operated together. >> again i just had a question, i'm not clear 100 percent on the hotel rooms. i hear there will be performers staying at the hotel and how many of the hotel rooms would be for public and how many reserved for performers? >> i think now we are working on what that mix might be, we said

roughly 175, the plan shows 177 rooms right now and we are in the discussion of somewhere between 5 or 8 for performers over a long period of time. >> okay, i wanted to clarify because that doesn't mean we have semi permanent housing for performers given we just passed the legislation on temporary housing and i wanted to be clear on that. i guess while we are not hearing anything preliminary at this point but in terms of how this will economically work out for the ken wood partners and support, has there been any projections made that are not heard yet? >> jonathan stern from port staff. we are in a conceptual stage for design. i think we are in a

conceptual stage for economics in terms of the economics of the project and the economics to the port. i think teatro as in the last time around recognizes the port gets a certain amount of revenue from parking nor site and i think they understand that's part of the economics the port is looking for and i think the port has been communicating with teatro once you have a hotel to a mix you need to look at the economics of the ground lease hotel which has at least after a certain period a percentage of growth participation rent. i think we've looked at it together on a very conception you'll level and the principals wr starting to discuss. >> i understand the conceptual level. i guess in terms of our warning to pass this on as a full source least to the board of supervisors that not without having details but a sense of confidence that the numbers

work for everybody necessary deal. >> ken wood investments on the behalf of the investment and partners they are in place and done writing working with our own analysis along with outside consultants that understand the marketplace that have looked at our underwriting and everything from construction cost to port revenue, all of those factors. we wanted to make sure all of it stereoed the test of the economics before we brought it to you. that occurred months ago before we sat down and said yeah, we actually think a hotel will work in this location. we are very confident that it will and we've got the financing in place to be able to make it work. >> okay. thank you. we'll look forward to having more detailed information in the future.

>> commissioner? >> yes, thank you jonathan for your presentation and i want to thank all the passionate speakers, you were great, all positive. yeah, i have seen the show sefrlt -- several times ands enjoyed it every time i have seen it. why wouldn't i welcome a good tenant in good standing at the port and especially an owner that is going to come in and put up their own money and invest in that area in that particular block. my hats off to you for doing that. the architect, your sketches are preliminary but i think you are on the right track there. a lot of nice open space and park and you can see right through, i like that and yeah, i like it and i think you

should try to work it out here with good relationships with the port and good luck on this. >> commissioner in adams? >> first i will like to thank everybody for coming out. this project is very bold. they always say art imitates life. this is a tough project but there will be people that are against this. just listening to it and i had a chance to see one of the shows. i think it's worth fighting for no matter what happens. since i have been on this commission that no matter what happens, somebody is going to say something negative. monique gets phone calls with people telling her you have too many cruise ships comingen. if we didn't have enough they

would be complaining about that. what is said about the financing and i think with all the right partners together this could be a win situation. only in san francisco with something like this really happening, this is good. if you really think about 80 years ago what was happening in san francisco, this is a water front that the long shoreman and the water front were trying to organize. 80 years leader, jimmy sherman. i like to think in this city we are like familiar feud. we have differences in opinion. i look at cities like los angeles and new york and they pay all of this money to pay all of these brilliant people, in san francisco, we seem to be a city of m it's fits but we seem to win in the world series

and get thing done and we collectively put our resources together and at the end of the day i think we find a point where we can all agree as something that works out best for everyone and this is i iconic. people from cruise ships will go here but this is also our city that we are preparing for the next generation. the average age in the city is 27 years old. it's going to leave a blueprint that we are leaving on this city. this is going to be positive ramifications for years to come. my grandmother only had a third grade education. she says the best with an is to replace an empty mind. i think when things are done methodically and slowly and you bring the community in, i think

this can be a win situation. to me the arts, i love the arts. i was on the film excision for #2k -- commission for four years. i like going to new york to broadway to see some of my favorite actors to broadway whether it's a daniel day-lewis or denzel washington. they add excitement to our life, they add passion in the arts, music, politics and business and this defines america and defines san francisco and i really appreciate all the passion. at first i thought this was like a memorial service. that's something that you really want in your life for people to get up and say nice things about you and the impact that this has had. it really meant a lot to me and it struck a cord because if i were to die, i would like many people to get up and say

nice thing. what you say this company was about, speaks values. a lot of people will die and nobody will say anything nice about them. but the impact that you have all had, the impact maybe because you didn't have to be here but you spoke from your heart and you will do whatever isness -- necessary to take it to the in next level. >> i just want to say and off of what mr. williams said in terms of your next step in community outreach what jonathan mentioned in the site and since you are moving a little bit differently than what you were is one of the comments that i received is to link what you are doing in that site and that vicinity of

chinatown and the fact that you are going to be very close and leverage the relationships with chinatown and the community there and given this this is a specific city and all the interactions with asian increase more and more that you reflect that in why you are staffing programming and looking at what it needs and offers. just as a comment and suggestion in that regard and that you are leveraging here with your community and i'm just speaking now for the chinatown community as well. thank you. >> i want to thank you for coming out. i brought one daughter one

evening because she was thinking of majoring in theatre and i think that made quite an i am parks mpression -- impression on her as well and i want to thank you for the various non-profit charities and you really did your part to be a good steward for so many organizations in the city. i'm excited about teatro zinzanni coming back. i think it was a wonderful addition to the water front and as we listen to everybody speaking so passionately. like commissioner said we'll get criticized no mary what -- matter what we do. i want to get an explanation

of why it fell. i would like to get some information from the proponents and why it was a sole source. jonathan would that be you? >> yeah. again, this is an opinion from the standpoint i would say go things, one, when the port came to norm they had two years left on their term and they very graciously agreed to work with the port to go ahead and move. they had been a great partner in good standing commissioner. and san francisco really has to look at what was the purpose of sole source and when do we use it. i think norm can speak for himself but the fact of the matter if we don't moo -- move quickly, they are looking at sites across the country.

if it's any sole source, it's on this particular spot. the fact of the matter was there was a hotel proposed on this site, it didn't eventually work, so under california state law, there is the opportunity to sole source. so you have the legal right to go ahead and do that. i think for us as a developer we spent a lot of time with norm over the past 8-9 months putting everything together so we can move as rapidly as you want to move so that we are ready to go on a short-term strategy as long as a long term strategy. if we can find a developer we can put norm up in another location to get him going in the city before hand so that we can get the customer base back, get people excited about that and what that will ultimately mean to the bottom line of

the project is there is going to be more expensive. we believe that if the board of supervisors and port commission is committed, we have the resources to be able to move rapidly to get them back in the marketplace. i think that's the key factor. you heard it here today from people being here. if you look across the board, every single area of the city as well as the bay, folks want it back and want it back now. we had to make the sacrifice as the developer to say, we'll bring it back maybe on lot a, if you recall i did bid on lot a as art first and we were going to create an art village because we believed that subsidizing artist was important and at the end of the day we compromised with the giants to build their dream and to be

able to support norm and norm's vision it's important to do it now. >> i have been carrying teatro zinzanni on my back. i had to figure out how was i going to bring it back not as a temporary site, not with plastic hoses connected to water lines. you should have seen what was under the tent after we pulled it up after 12 years. it had to be a permanent site and it had to be there