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experience in the lower left slide we saved part of the structure and taken the roof off and keep that and make that an open space area to people walking down the street to enjoy the landscape that's not grading gatdz over and over private it illustrates in the rear yard courtyard is an open space that is a religious we have complete parking on tennessee street it is we're taking advantage the street slopping to get the parking access completely you don't see the cars their hidden in the main pedestrian way we have we're meeting the bike rooms in the basement and car
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share located within the parking garage and the next slide is illustrates on the corner the main corner the part of the building we're saving we're to make that the highlight of the project and the rest of the project we're breaking down the massing and trying to articulate 20 to 25 foot wide town houses or massing to break down the scale of the project this is just a view the project we want to make sure we light the sidewalks we want to see that as improving the neighborhood illuminating the courtyard it's a safe project this is the secretary view how and excavated the streets we
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have stoops along tennessee street towards 19th the land strip along the parking spaces there and the landscape strip across the building in the inn set the existing view in black and white and the color view we're proposing the material are we're showing you brick as the existing material and their sustainable we have plastic and increment and citing and some wood paneleding concrete that's the presentation i'll stick around for questions thank you. >> we'll open this up for public comment john and susan. >> thank you. i was out of the
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country for a year on state university business i teach design at san jose development but all in the inspection of responsible and good design 815, 25. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> street has a name so if we're going to be sending this fine brick building to the gallows gives it the name of the building we've seen the rome don't be fooled by earth designs that's a wolf in sheeps clothing and presents a dangerous precedent what will remain of this building if the project goes ahead only a amputated fragment of the brick facade
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colliding with that will be ill coordinated alcohols with decorative grid there are 3 reasons to save it one is the architecture stream and two the social and cultural history and 3 an opportunity to do what dog patch does better than other neighborhoods in san francisco and i adapt and reuse brick buildings are rearer than our victorians i can count the brick buildings in dog patch they range from the charming police department to the majestic park they have faired pretty well this building deserves the merit the same treatment they have the social and cultural history the buildings speaks volumes an immigrant from china and years from hard work and their own business with great pride they
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yes, ma'am battalion with red, white, and blue the food company in english two foot high letters and chinese characters 4 foot high this building this brick building is dog patchs only testimony to chinese-american history in san francisco florida the building were in chinatown or fisherman's wharf or north beach it would be untouchable solution is adapt reuse and as i said co-joined with mixed use is the genus of dog patch that is only my 3 minute summary for you but this comes down to 3 options reuse of existing building as is a commercial and nonprofit cultural building with internal structuring and number 2 would
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be as a - >> thank you. sir, your time is up. >> thank you i'll send in. >> full report. >> thank you. next speaker. >> hi, i'm susan i'm vice president of the dog patch association in the not so distant past i had an opposition to proposals in our neighborhood, however, in the past year or so i've spoken to a handful of project proposed for dog patch 1972 a direct result of the people listening to our community rome development fellows this trend a trirpgs feel of the project from the first meeting the developer heard that was important to us
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to help maintain the character of the neighborhood when we offered design suggestions they came back with a better plan unanimous support when we voted to enforce the project please join join us and approve that design. >> is there any additional public comment seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioners commissioner antonini. >> i think this is a great project i think it's a good reuse of part of the historic building and i i would like to make one suggestion to the architect looking at the views that were given us you've got an area that goes along tennessee street it goes along both streets you have a
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sides that is a gray color i would suggest you consider the possibility of having that side have more if a masonry color it will blend the two together your new facility is different by changing that siding i think on one side you have the color but on tennessee if i'm not mistaken it doesn't have one i suggest that see what the commissioners have to say but it don't a lot of good things. >> commissioner johnson. >> thank you very much i echo commissioner antonini's comments i am sympathetic to the public comment to maintain and preserving older building but i think in this case, the addition density overcomes some of the
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potential consequences of getting rid of the building that's there i will say that the building itself in terms of the facade needs to be blend better with the remaining fade from the older facility and colors will help this is something that is an prevail the developer can work with the staff my question for my second question for the developer or project sponsor or staff whoever knows the area answer answer why wasn't ground floor retail considered thanks again for the map authorization it is good but i look at the projects and think about the projects already built and people moved in there's a birth of people serving the
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retail i don't see the ground floor retail other than the one on 22nd or something like that so discuss thank you. >> i think the department didn't feel that ground floor retail in this particular location would have served in the dog patch area third street and along 22nd street are the primary incarnations and given the proposal with the ground floor dwelling unit we found it a strong proposal overall. >> thank you. i'll is again, we had so many projects coming up in the area i don't feel the need to have that fight over this particular project this design works but in general we need to think about the third street the t line and the cars
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whipping up and down the lanes and mta is talking about the traffic calming and things that might change that characterization of this street but it means that people that live in dog patch people don't walk to third street and actually outlet there's no neighborhoods you need to get our hair or nails done there's one store i live in that area so we need to rethink that of there's ground floor units their room to think about how to extend the neighborhood services into the eastern part east of third street in dog patch when we look at those prongs we need to think about and not saying people will be able to walk to 3 e 22nd street that's the main
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commercial district there. >> thank you commissioner richards i echo what commissioner johnson said about the rail it will activate the street i think i was actually for the design of the building until i got in newspaper the reason in the old design the new design looks like a shelf so i recommend you put the windows back it is like a wall now that's my recommendation. >> commissioner fong. >> thank you. well i'm excited about the new housing units here but i want to share commissioner johnsons thought if there neighborhood in this area if we're going to try to build it out make accommodations now for commercial use see i don't think a grocery store within the
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walking distance to think about how we over lay that commercial use and what is it becoming a neighborhood obviously. >> commissioner richards ii guess my question to commissioner johnson would you support a continuance on this item and have them go back and look at it incorporating the businesses on this project additional some more design lemons like the windows. >> commissioner johnck so maybe we can ask the developer about it have they considered it i have concerned about the building that has folks have raised it looks like a relic there's issues below it but have a way like the lobby to make it feel anymore like
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keeping it is good kind of that half keeping it open space doesn't work is there solutions like putting retail or making it a fungal building than it is. >> yeah. thank you jonathan all very good points and points well-taken we'll have those debates over the course of two community meetings and the additional meetings off site with the board members we've gone back and forth and people echoed some of the comments about third street being the areas they want to activate the reason for preserve the non historic or the corner of the building was so there could be
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space open to the sky that can be activated like a lobby to a hotel as you're walking up and down content members could pass through and seating and benches we've agreed with the dog patch neighborhood association with our hoa that will allow for a mechanism for them to contact our hoa in the event they want that space for a social gather for the health and safety a hand in hand process to come up with hopefully there this is the solution. >> so i somewhat agree that is a tough sited for retail but i'll be supportive of including our motion i wanted to look at the design the materials you're using are good and a quality facade but a little bit more unified i think it would be
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better and if this building left would read more line a like a building and keeping the roof and adding back the windows would be helpful to that. >> yeah. i think it john would recycle to say something but adding the windows back if there was another rendering with the middle awning that was open to that suggestion that was great. >> i guess with respect to the more unified building we didn't bring the entire history of the design process in i think we started with the building that was more unified it it of the one color pallet and one statement on this site corner to corner, of course, we liked it
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but in meeting with the neighbors they reeled really that wanted us to push to break down the feeling on this site not one 5 story from building to building and in other cities maybe it looked out of place in the neighborhood but what's great about going to the neighbors you get to meet them and have dinner and design a project with the neighbors that's why we feel great we support the design and so don't everyone we didn't get to show you the unif i had building we arrived here through is process and have support with the neighborhoods. >> thank you. i think that's a helpful comment i'm ready to support the project today and
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ask staff to continue to work with the project sponsors especially on making the brick walls appear more building like but i think it's important to hear about the history with the neighbors to staff work with the designer but incorporate the historical and work with the neighbors also. >> commissioner johnson. >> thank you very much again also in support of the project the reason why i asked the question about the push for this project this project is one block west of third street i see that third street street is where people come in that building is particular will be close enough but i was responding to more the general public comment about retail in the large residential building and again looking at this map
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that is beautiful bay it shows the projects within a half a mile definitely some in my mind i know where stuff is they're not close to the things open on third street we need to be more broad in pushing for ground floor retail it's not the same honestly, i feel like some of the projects there are a couple over other streets i'll not be supportive of retail because those are foster from the walking distance more of a general public comment. >> thank you commissioner antonini and i'll move to approve with the staff working with the project sponsor checking for retail in the corner of the preserved brick building is possible
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number 2 to consider the restoration of the windows in the plan on this same building and thirdly, to look at the facade i think it's along 30th street if i'm reading the right direction might be steven to carry out the - a reference is masonry to the masonry of the building it won't have to go up 4 feet i guess but the concrete looking siding doesn't apply into the building those are the 3 things i see that need to be addressed and commissioner richards. >> i'll be supportive of project providing you'll take it back and have the with these in
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and put the awnings in. >> just want to make the point from the discussion the commissioners were satisfied that the retail was not necessary at this location across third streets but additional retail on the center for the third street corridor we're fine with the other conditions the problem with the railway squeezing it it will have a 17 floor to floor to ceiling the redesign it is not going to work to show in a retail space. >> can i speak to that my motion said to study it not to do it. >> commissioner richards and i'm done thank you. >> commissioners, if there's
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nothing further there is a we have a motion and a second to approve that matter with conditions including for the project sponsor to continue working with the staff on a retail component potential to include the windows in the brick building and the 20th street facade on commissioner antonini commissioner johnck commissioner johnson commissioner richards commissioner fong and commissioner president wu so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 6 to take a 10 minute break. >> back to the spags regular hearing for october 16, 2014, i'd like to remind members of the audience that the commission
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does not tolerate disruptions of any kind please, please, please signs our electronics and and when speaking before the commission, if you care to, do state your name for the record. those of you standing near the doorway clear the area move to the other side of the room folks those of you standing excuse me. gentlemen those of you standing next to the doorway clear the area commissioners we left off under our discretionary review calendar for the cases d and v ottawa street discretionary review and request for variances. >> commissioners my name is sarah of the department staff the item before you is a mandatory discretionary review for a demolition of a unit inform coal valley the project
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sponsor was granted a permit and the building was demolished the building is now parking lot reconstructed and the process is legalized the don't guess in january, the department staff were in a meeting of the decisions and on march 62014 the work was done consistent with the scope that was approved by the planning commission and starting in fall 2013, the complaints were filed with the don't guess a dbi nova was issued that the escape of the work had been exceeded and complaints at the planning department were not filed in early 2014 they get a letter
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from the project sponsor to legalize the construction of the building the department outlined 3 processes necessary a building permit and mandatory discretionary review for the depression demolition of housing and a reconstructed building will not comply the permit was filed on march 192014 and the mandatory discretionary review case filed on may 17, 2014, section 311 notice on accept set that and a public dr was not filed and the department did not receive my calls regarding the project during that period on october 9th the department got an e-mail from a neighbor and the neighbors property is behind the designated property the majority of the neighborhoods concerns were
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addressed they want a privacy screen at the rear of the proposed building overall the plans reviewed during the project review under the 2013-2014 is generally consist in how the building was to be additional it eliminates a set of stairs and two windows in the rear notch area, however, the demolition exceeded the scope so i have quickly for you a little - so in terms of what the neighbor is requesting 24 is a subject property that is the area of where the notch is proposed to the replacement building and the neighbors building this yellow line it to my left is the property line there's a screen to be mr. there
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and the neighbor wants at that perceptives screen there a that's what they're to talk about today public works if you have any questions, i'll be happy to answer them. >> thank you so seeing this a a mandatory discretionary review the project sponsor has a presentation. >> good afternoon you commissioners john with the rubbing benefit and rose on behalf of the project sponsor the project will remedy a demolition and certify a dwelling unit and danny will come up here and explain the situation. >> planning commissioner allison park danny the owner thank you for taking the time it's on a long and arduous experience when i bought the property i learned about the property thus my architect and i
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left the original structure intact and allowed the improvements to be made when i engaged the construction we talked about how the incan saycy the abdomen contract said he understood the project temporary shoring was built to shore it up on friday, october 18th of last year the original foundation was standing but when i came back the structure was are torn down only the for man was on site i called my contract contractor he that everything was all right, of course not everything was fine he never once asked my architect or i if we needed to dpoosht
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walls this is not what i authorized and not the plan i fired any contractor and hired on attorney for the damages i invited the insurance companies i don't know what the damages are i'm not planning on flipping this property this is a perm and difficult process for me it's also been extremely expensive it's trying to fix a mistake made in one day i'm trying to enjoy my property. >> so to recap if the building inspection didn't authorize the demolition as danny explained the contractor resulted in a
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demolition of the building you know requirement the demolition criteria work stopped as soon of the notice of violation and we requested a letter how to move forward we saw the demolition application and we're here today the project is almost the same as in 2013 with modifications made all property line windows have been removed open the north and west property line we've removed access to the roof and specifically engaged the northeast neighbor to get his input on the privacy concerns there's legitimate privacy concerns regarding the two lots and we've agreed to add the privacy screen and removed the windows in the notch f facing north
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