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a community that is not bend from the proposed project with two other dispensaries locked one block away our neighborhood is experiencing high crowding of traffic and alterations and crime a decreasing in local businesses medical cannabis is - it is maybe near a pharmacy or hospital is dispensaries are not allot to be located within one thousand feet of the school and it is one thousand 5 hundred foot from the local schools and it the near the parish school the two dispensaries and the proposed dispresence are on the
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pathways of children going to and from school another dispensaries is needed in my community i raise the concerns for the residents especially the children the related crime it is causing increased traffic on mission street impaired drivers and effecting the property values mission organic provide the service to - >> thank you your time is up. >> thank you. >> i'm a merchant on 521 merchant street basically the community is president this it sucks it's my business on 89 i'm a merchant and a recovery addict
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i choose to stop being sick i'm doing well medical cannabis club will be saturation like everyone said in front of my store is a pedestrian crosswalks every city has become a nightmare hell every single day they park one after another customer they don't care, he everything that's being said to the community it is about the money nobody has come up to me and said we're going to try to get the clients to park in the red zone people can't cross patio my mom's 92 years old she can't cross the street kids are being fed we'd outside my store i've been there and
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done that tree knows their clients council meeting in and out on an hour spent five or six times one client goes in and out pushing the weed outside my store i call the police i personally have not had any response from the police station i'm still waiting for an officer to come to my store i've called 3 months ago 9-1-1 the police station not one police officer has come to my store. >> thank you. sir, your time is up. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> hello, i'm monica a and a half san franciscan homeowner in the outer mission area
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i was raised and raising my family there 2 1/2 years ago i spoke before the commission opposing the 3 mcds that have opened standing here before you again, today asking for you to listen to the residents that live in the area about our concerns perhaps if spark would have been here two analyses years ago they would have been the first to open, however, we have a sour taste in our mouths issues that occurring everyday people are living it everyday we ask you taking into consideration the residents listen to it and realize that what happened 2 1/2 years ago could be an issue again, thank
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you very much. >> thank you. next speaker, please >> hello confirmations i'm president of the outer mission merchant and societies residents and associates yes anyway we were here 2 1/2 years ago i can't believe i'm here again, i've spoken to you about the green zone to expand that it's not fair for our district to be over-burdened sparks sounds great maybe we wouldn't have the problems we have today but if the 20 other two are not going to go out of business for a fact tree just changed ownership they no longer own the club it's someone so who is is say someone
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won't buy this one so i'm pleading with you please take a look at wag we're saying this is not about medical cannabis it is not about how much it helps people i see it and tabbed their stories this isn't about you it's a about a neighborhood trying to find an identity and a neighborhood trying to move away from clustering because we have two more coming in we have lucky dragon and olive collective there are about 3 mcds in the 52 hundred block alone thank you very much thank you. is there any additional public comment. >> okay. on this tactic? >> no. >> i know there's going back to be public comment later on and,
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sir you've already spoken you haven't spoken at all you're not part of the project sponsors team they've been afforded that's fine submit that. >> good evening. i'm teresa alvarez i live close to tree medicaid i'm here to speak for myself and my mom who leaves in the 0 block behind tree medicaid i want to give you the message that we have been hurt by a prior decision that was made by letting 3 mcds open in our neighborhood there's no argument about does the product help people or should it beleaguer listed that's not the issue the decision was made here those
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clubs opened and our neighborhood our blocks are hurting my mom's elderly i pick her he up and take her shopping when i come back cars parked on the block with people in them smoking if we go to get the drivers place they drive away maybe someone what drive and smoke that's not for me to say our block our neighborhood the people are hurt by something that was put in that we don't use it's okay for other people to use it but request if we get another one, if they might be a good business but we're full my question why can't they be put in another neighborhood it's hard to speak and maybe some of
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the people can go into our neighborhood and use some of our businesses and tell those people to stop smoking on the corners and disrupting and making it hard for people that live there. >> any other speakers that haven't spoken yet oak seeing none, public comment is closed opening up to commissioners commissioner hillis. >> i have questions for the project sponsor just i guess first you've heard i'm sure eave researched before you selected this site kind of about the issues the neighbors/have about clustering this has a disproportionate number of clubs dispensaries in other neighborhoods we've been down this path green before why
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did you select that site. >> first finding a site t is hard in san francisco the zoning laws create if you places for medical cannabis and it has the largest complication over 71 hundred spark members living in the 91192 or adjudicate zip codes. >> but the adjacent zip codes is it because of the green zone it's difficult to find other spots that's a large area i can look at other districts is it the green zone it limits where you go. >> green zone is by law the only place. >> we've tried to increase the area where you can locate but it
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doesn't seem to have much of on impact. >> i don't think the laws have been changed. >> we recommended changes. >> yeah. there were changes recommended but the board of supervisors didn't preempt those changes. >> so how do you respond to neighbors saying there's two many whether you're a bank or cell phone store i don't have a problem with mcds i live two blocks from one it operates well there's no traffic issues but there's not enormous issues that make me oppose the business but yourself the third we've heard about clustering how do you respond to neighbors that are concerned and what your impact obey to the neighborhood by adding another mcd. >> i hope i can meet each neighbor that spoke will the concerns of the medical cannabis dispensaries my goal to spend
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time with each of the individuals and find out the issues and gave me head on with the issues and solve them i don't believe they've experienced an organization that is dedicated to building cultural within our region we're going to be different and really improve the neighborhood and improve the cannabis. >> you have a different approach to this than some of the other mcds have you met with the neighbors. >> the chart we've put up and in your packets we've reached out to 14 organizations and small mail and e-mail and left three or four voices mail messages and invited them with 80 an open house and paid for the shuttle busing buses to pick up people and closed the store
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early we've been available for private tours one-on-one and done everything possible to reach out over and over again there how's has to be 5 contacts to each of the 14 neighborhood organizations. >> people have not take advantage and so organizations invited us in to speak and other organizations posted a newsletter there was only one organizations that is opposing this project i believe that 2 1/2 years ago there were many organizations i know that is a direct effort from our education. >> what happens to the mcd market in the excelsior as a result if you operate there could someone raise this notion
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it's not a choice between you the good operator and you and your supporters readily admit there's problems and the police by saying i do things better and you're a different operator what's your sense of what happens to the market do you increase for the people going to this neighborhood you know to patron the businesses there and the mcds what's our prediction on what upstairs to the landscape of the mcds in the queer it's hard to predict. >> my prediction we're going to come in as a happy healthy organization serving medical cannabis residents and how the other dispensaries with whether they choose to step up or not i can't control but i know a
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they're to have to compete with our organization we will raise the bar in the neighborhood. >> thank you thank you. >> commissioner richards that i i guess if mr. jacobs if you can stay i want to say you have the customers that come they're not really caring about the neighborhood they trash and put the pot on the marijuana if those customers came in our place would would you do. >> if the customers create a negative impact on the neighborhood we band them from the dispresence but we have on site medicating the reason people are rolling joint in coffee shops. >> one of the fears would be
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the market i'm limited we do have enough assess so your place with the other 3 and possibly 3 more that it is just going doifl the other it will go out of business he everybody is happen you're a model organization it is this is probable one of the harder decisions i'm a neighborhood activist we have the patients in the neighborhood and you want to come into the neighborhood it is hard thing to do and you know there's no question in my mind we should take dr and talk about that i'll see what the commissioners have to say. >> i'm going to try to i have questions for your i'm going to try a compassionate let me explain my point of view
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i've vociferated for every single mcd this particular area and this particular region has been hit with a number of different shops in the area i recognize some of the faces i'm not bendz over to them but i think we have a situation with the clustering has become a problem and sparks seems like a great outfit maybe the best i love the organization and the services so has nothing to do with with that but back three or four years ago we our main concern was the cluster if there were 3 dell lists or 7-eleven's that is one the reasons it was
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brought into san francisco i am at moment recently fully going to be opposed to this again has nothing to do with not the spark or operators but i think this is too many do i think the green zone needs to be expand absolutely that's not necessarily i'd like to be part of that conversation it's been the board of supervisors and the mayor to discuss you know what the next steps is i track what was going on with washington and colorado but it's unfair to put the burden on one neighborhood if it was on our block we would feel the same thing my respect to spark commissioner antonini. >> thank you. i've been on the
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commission a long time and had many mcds come before me i've voted for some and against others i've never been for on site smoking you know many of those people driving and leaving the mcds causing traffic problems are going to be impaired like any another drugs many are beneficial and marijuana causes you to be impaired and most have something on the label that says don't drive having people smoke or otherwise ingest or inhale the drug on site your gee them they're there and also your gee them not driving i'm totally against a project that as on site consumption actually our
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speakers talked the delivery servicing service if you have a delivery service why h have people smoking on site you run a clean organization but as other speakers have said the outer mission is being over saturated because the zoning is not listening and neighbors are not wanting the clustering and technically 5 hundred feet away one is 870 and other 866 theirs close to where they need a second additional use and possibly a 5th one with the lucky dragon has nothing to do with to do with this complication i h have other concerns we've heard if the
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caption of eagle side station and we've heard about consumption in routines and heard about people blocking sidewalks and heard about those behaviors i don't know if you can necessarily guarantee your exercises are not going to be that way particle 72 hundred customers in a relatively small area of san francisco we know that marijuana is not recreationally approved for recreational use although many times anyone can get a car or go to a doctor there is a lot of abuse going on we've heard about secondary markets outside of dispensaries i think that enough t is enough i wish we could get rid of the other two people say
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are not doing well, it would be fine to have this one here and unfortunately it is not helping the neighborhood and so i'm going to have to be no support of decide approval i have a a couple of other things to say i'm not sure that most of the speakers against this project were from the neighborhood almost all of them were in close approximate a few of the speakers were supportive in the neighborhood many are not it looks like of those speaking we have a higher preponderate of people that were not favorable to live nearby i'm going to make a motion to take dr and disapproval. >> commissioner johnson. >> thank you very much so you know, i have a couple of
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things to say i'll start off by saying if i have to go against to i can it he you can is to the issue at hand unfortunately, the other two dispensaries are not at issue how i took a tour of the original proposed area i was supposed to go on a tour of the currently operating location on 8th emission and made a mistake and ended up in the state of of the xrooer i know the area pretty well but paid attention to the medical cannabis i got to building there is no way that those dispensaries are operating within the conditions of the original approvals they first of all, they don't even meet the design guidelines their windows are covered with posters
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one has a sudden quarrel that looks at kind of bored i even looking at from the outside we have a potential enforcement action on our hands with the other two dispensaries i disagree with the xrishgsz they're not there and there's nothing we can do we can do something about locations that are not operating properly and not doing good things for the community i don't believe are there's there and we can't go anything about it turning back to spark they've set a high bar someone mention the consolidati
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competitions and spark will make operators not on the up and up go out of business again, i'm paying attention i see that there's people going in and out of sparks there's people coming in and out they're doing a risk service to the community and half a blackwell block down you know with the posters looking not like it's the most reputable place and nobody in there that's the pattern that repeats itself in the excelsior when i measure and look at it whether or not we should allow spark to have a ccii is it better for the community than having a vacant outpost on a block that hadn't a lot on it to me, yes is it better to have controlled a controlled use of marijuana within the envelope that have that building rather than having
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them walk around on the street yes. >> and does the martin luther king care about being integrated into the neighborhood yes on this front i have to say unfortunately, i have to separate the discussion of spark from the other dispensaries on the merits of spark as an organization i have to say i like the project that being said i definitely agree with president fong expanding the green zone it was created well meaning trying to control you know this new type of uses but clearly we've seen unintended consequences we have good organizations that are not as operating in a good of fashion you bumping up against each other but again, i have to keep
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my decision making to this organization northeast and this project works for that location. >> commissioner richards. >> i've asked this commission i've been on the side of you folks sitting out there many, many times and we've had no mcds and we were scared to dedicate we were emotional and didn't thinks what was going on we had a good operate that's where i sit and isolation no other mcds i would approve that hands down no question but we have to submit the enforcement on them i've talked about to the sdcers in the chambers and i think the necessarily desirable and
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impartial is the standard i support of the access 72 hundred in the immediate zip code is huge and sdrieshl our great operators and have a great operations i raised the comparable are you going to have a flood with the clustering i'm having an issue i'm torn with the neighborhood and the patients aced staff there's 3 cannabis dispensaries too much that's in my question and commissioner antonini. >> another point if nephews a starbuck's and another cooperations there's a third one within a mile to support i mean everyone would be saying this vacant space we need other
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things in the neighborhood all the different things there are two many marijuana disperps that might keep other businesses out they see people wandering around but in general from the reports we've heard from the neighboring neighbors it discourages other neighborhood businesses from coming in so i like what this particular group does but unfortunately i'm going to have to vote against this time around i might feel definitely if we get rid of the other ones but with they're on site smoking that guarantees impaired pope people walking around it's a no. >> commissioner hillis. >> so i think the issue for me, i don't like the clustering by i building that sparks a better
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all over the or operator than the mcds that killer operate onion mission street so my question i'm grandpa living are we shooting ourselves in the foot by have something not allow a better operator to come in but i also think the people that know that better if we went to view your site and then i kind of lean to side with you know what the neighbors know the situation at hand and they know presumably they know what happens at spark i'll be open what's our rule we have on 5 commissioners here how does that work if there's 3 votes against this -
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