create the incentives for the multi use buildings. >> you're laying out a difficult challenge my personal view is that you know technological advancements getting a excise it to clamp into a pipe that can tell you how much pipe this is the ideal situation and right minds to put their efforts that is one tool you don't have to mess with the plumbing beyond that it is i will acknowledge extremely difficult but on the other hand, when you look at san francisco as paula mentioned gallons per capita per day based on the conservation techniques out

there if everyone was perfect my may 25th gallons per day but in san francisco people that maybe using more than their share can do more the replacement of fixtures that's it that's where we see the big bang for the buck not only the 5 to 3 gallons of toilets out by all the individuals actions add up i have a positive outcome for the san franciscans to 0 reduce water usage. >> i think most people in the city care of conservation and people are not wasting the water by unfortunately not everyone didn't seem always a mindset we're in san francisco i think

you've noted we're ahead of the curve in terms of the water usage we do in san francisco you see in many instances we continue to lead the way and really set the best possible examples for the rest of the state and the country i know with the puc has taken the bold it steps to moving in the right direction and i'm appreciative of the agencies. >> thank you. >> okay terrific questions or comments okay. that includes the presentation that is extremely useful for me and the public there's so many questions and understanding so with that,

anyone from the public wish to speak on this item i have one public comment item mr. brooks yeah. >> but good afternoon eric brooks representing san francisco local grassroots organization in our city also open the san francisco bay sierra club water committee i want to say i kind of want to reiterate what you lead with supervisor wiener at the beginning of this that et al those departments are doing cool city to make things better there are aorta cities like los angeles that are rocketing way ahead unof us on kr50i8gd water and san diego might going for portable use we know the climate crisis is going

to make water a big deal we need to make the capital investment and 3w4r0i68dz to change it one good example this is something not done that needs to be tested a furg i got the enterprise to study compost in toilets you think this is a worthwhile or inner thing the new ones are very useful and to give you an example of how much water if we switched every toilet in the city to a non-flush or n indoor compost toilet saved 5 billion gallons of water a year this is totally making unnecessary the one thing that the puc had on their list of options we oppose that is putting diesel nation

out it requires higher amazes of the energy and pollution and should in the be equal on the list a last resort. >> thank you. next speaker. >> hello supervisor wiener and supervisor kim in the city we have 10 thousand holy you beauty and 10 thousand of having angle voices to insure every one of p them have a good living standard along with the city stingd not only the plain lives without bands like a mango relationship and marriage thirty years of doing you're part of city support. >> is there any additional

public comment on - we have a motion and a second up. >> good afternoon, supervisors i'm shawn residential builders association i'm glad this topic is being discussed i'll share a quick stories 2 unit buildings uses about the same water as a 25 unit metered building you get more than a 50 percent reduction but here's the reality this is the real world even though it costs more money to plump the building our members are willing and most developers to at least try to do this what happens even though you spend the money plumbing the building you have to go and buy a meter nobody will sell a meter in san francisco anywhere the reason is our county our department of

public health our ways and means has made an interpretation the only county in the state of california to this interpretation if the meter didn't pass they take out their drill and destroy the meter not hand it back to they industry it and put up every obstacle to stop us from metering those buildings now we've brought this up to the puc in the past evidently months ago we offered some very good helpful suggestions i suggest to avoid the confusion puc should buy a couple of hundred or thousand let us bye buy from them we shouldn't have to go to the weights and measures with the

ways and means the only reason we need them is because they've terminated themselves themselves as an hoa self-- not selling water just. >> sir first of all, you said 12 unit buildings uses as much of a 25 building as sub mediator and correct the 12 unit unmetered. >> and in terms of the last point can you get dbi or puc to comment on that i'm not sure i understand that. >> first that's the first i've heard sub meters they're not used for resale that's the first

time i've heard that. >> sir, do you have anything. >> we've had where we've gone out and forced some sub metered building and they've put meter in the only ways to accept those if they're done by ways and maples and they're okay and we get certification of that it needs to be done yearly and if failed they'll industry the meter. >> that's the department of public health. >> so that's treat the same way as the business of scale. >> yes. if there're stale scale is off they come in and if it is checked and doesn't comply they take it out. >> it that done on a

single-family home. >> no. >> they're not quote/unquote to industry the meters did that come out like an mischief active interpretation by dpw. >> i don't know. >> we'll look at could you connect with jeff in my office we'll look at supervisor cohen. >> yes. i want to acknowledge shawn's commits i appreciate i calling up the department heads it so you would the describing of meters is a common practice that's universally done no one industry is focused or singled out; is that correct. >> well, so it's treated the same as a scale and done with the testing basically i understand that the abducting

goes out and don't the annual inspections to make sure the businesses are not cheating customers and using the scales incorrectly it is a difficult category than the traditional processed and so we'll definitely take a look at that that's odd. >> one more i know i think so when the scale if the scale doesn't pass the inspection it is destroyed certainly contractors having the scale giving it back to them you have an opportunity to return it to the company can you over clarification exactly. >> it causes a big problem because it i buy 40 meter and if they 5 don't pass if i send them back to the manufacturer to

recall them with 5 more but the ways and means has an odd calibration method doing and none of the companies that sells the meters that the company our members were graft tat toward they won't sell to san francisco they'll sell to san mateo or up north or in the east bay they're sick of dealing with ways and means. >> one could interpret delta is sell on infer product. >> you can buy from self are manufacturers he doesn't did care care but the california brags some is educate in san francisco they do their best to not. >> what makes it unique. >> they don't want you to do

that and they don't want - and you to sell. >> the reason i was the best explanation she said i'm a landlord. >> she is that the department. >> someone from the ways and means. >> i said i'm a landlord i'm here representing a developer trying to put but in a meter this has to do with water conservation. >> they were roadblocks everywhere and we have to reinvest this. >> ways and means gets involved with the gas station meters in the case of the hoa they're resan bernardino the cost of the water there's no mark up.

>> how long has 24 policy or situation being go on. >> about a year, year and a half. >> is this a new policy. >> about 2 1/2 years. >> so new. >> it is two or three years old. >> i'm going to let the hearing go ahead and continue supervisor kim has something. >> it's been a source of frustration. >> it's only one side. >> but all about finding solutions. >> the bottom line there are so many obstacles to the individual metering we want to make sure. >> supervisor kim and i think my line of questioning were similar to what the supervisors asked we shouldn't be sdrin e destroying meters that's shocking whether it's accurate

or not at any time returning them but like to clear up that policy it makes sense we allow the hoa in large buildings to figure out showing you how to conserve water and hold individual units it's hard in a multi unit building even though for a tenant that wants to conserve water they may not know their uncle but to look at that policy and not to be striking property whether it's at right meters or not. >> thank you so milestone my office will talk to the department of public health and colleagues thank you for that is there any additional public comment on item 3? okay seeing none, public comment is closed so colleagues, i want it thank you to the department

and the members of the public for this hearing i think such we all know we're 2, 3, 4 a drought and see it on the news and in the paper today's hearing shows this is an merging and growing issue we don't know whether the drought is going to be over even if we get rain we need to be prepared for a 140er789 and long term situation where we have to seriously conserve water we'll do things devil and make sure our codes and practices are actually consistent with the potential reality the crisis the growing crisis we face and again san francisco needs to be at the forefront not other cities across the crisis leaping towards us so colleagues i'll entertain a motion to continue this item to the call of the

chair >> so moved. >> we'll take that without objection. that will be the order thank you madam clerk call item 2. >> item 2 is an ordinance mit the health care with the establishing fees. >> supervisor cohen is the author the item 2. >> good afternoon imagine i want to thank you for hearing there are areas in the south beach area that survivor from traffic and free traffic and significant monuments of construction activities we know that the closure such as dealings admissions lead to health problems for people living next to freeways are the most vulnerable and the city we're also

aggressively addressing the former industrial areas in brown field sites with new housing as well as open parks to address some of the hajz xajz challenges and impacts i've been working with the planning department to strengthen our new housing development to make sure we're protecting the public's health the ordinance you're considering updates our landmark to require the developers who are retrofits a building or new housing in a hot spot zone to have conventionallation to their tenant are getting clean air this will stripe it by clearly identifying the areas in the city where we know those enhanced measures are needed

i've heard from the members with the costs associated with the technology and a desire to have a process in place that shuttered the measures for the remit to that end colleagues, i have one amendment that requires the department of public health the department of building inspection and the fire department to w work to review and evaluate possible technologies and policies that maybe implemented to meet those requirements this amendment requires the department to transmit a report to the board of supervisors within one hundred and 20 days to the operative date that details where they are in the implementation process now i don't know we have a disagreement on the policy issue what we have is a desire to sure

the policy is implemented and implemented well the legislation is part of american people overall strategy to keep the residents particularly those who have suffered from the wide range of health issues it focused on the poverty and land use and many other yourselves that effect the sean where we're bringing health initials we're e-cigarette the health commission health impacts experience a variety of sources including the neighborhoods district 10 no secret is a having a lot of construction to make sure this construction is utilizing the best technology to protect the health and safety of

our residents they're real vial injustices we must use every tool available to us to insure that our residents are healthy and save i want to call up karen cone and followed by wade from the planning department i want to let them talk about this. >> thank you so much supervisor wiener and supervisors thank you for the opportunity i'm karen from the environmental commissioner president wu to update this is an efficient process for the urban development right now the people that are doing a great job of giving us more how's by are meeting are the needs of the

sequa process it is slightly different requirements now written in our draft began with that goal in mind to be compatible we'll be saving developers a third of their costs as the technology that has become nor available to protect the residents it's our duty to bring those forward, and, secondly, to a duty to regulate the community has the supervisor said we want them to be confident and you may have seen this newspaper article on the day that supervisor cohen introduced this legislation the order please my coworker lives on berry straight it's a beautiful tree lined street i've learned we

don't perceive air pollution because of the drought we've been talking about we have to wait for the that is a days to receive the accumulation of pollution i'm sure you're aware of this has been more frequent but once you go to my colleagues department you'll see that the normal building style used has been called a z deduct that protects noise coming out the building and the outside air because he works in my department he know that there could be a degree of pollution due to his proximity to the train station he began to buy allergy flrlts a that's delivered to the inside of his apartment i'm going to share you

with this needs to be changed every 2 months what those are doing prevent the larger part continentals i've been speaking and even though they've you visited his home i'm shocked he has a clean place to maintain but most of his neighbors are noticing not doing this they see the soot on the back the reporter had him touch his balcony prior to - many 2008 i

testified on behalf of of the task force and there were several research articles to a talk about the asthma caused by air pollution a 10 year study of children's height and a decrease in where children who's lungs will not grow is to the full-size we're not a los angeles as yes, he did. we're

not to be that but right now the new evidence in the health literature is that parcels cause inflation that causes heart disease and there's an activity protein there was a 3 thousand person study done that california state agency published so i'm going to show you the offer lap between the area that is proposed to be the air pollution explore zone under the amendment and the hospitalized for heart disease and you can clearly see the north south of market and the bay area those are our highest areas i have another guest speaker to help us dot mapping

that products that and treasure island also has hospitalizations so we know from the research literature that air pollution cases cardiovascular effects that are related to the among the top 5 leading causes of death so this is a 2rsh9 sma somewhat of an invisible contributor our goal to do the best to protect the public health if you don't know article 38 right away a developer going to the department of public health signifying e saying this is a model zone and in this case they need to monitor it with the

professional company if the criteria is exceeded they have to provide the ventilation it only applies to developments of 10 or more units it doesn't apply to retains less than 10 units like daycare those other sensors only pollution to the roadways our proposal is is to change this to the zoning map there's since 2008 many improvements are done we propose that the department does the dictate of what is rather than having companies doing their own modeling they have to spend their money this is an obligation of the department every 5 years we'll include all

sources that are known which are the stationary serious by the air district and the permits like the train properties and the rise there are two crazy for getting into this map the excess of carcinogen those are quality to be part of this. >> i have a quick question and yes. >> this legislation goes tons for new what about housing there's in the conquer zone how can we help them. >> the existing how's. >> yes. i don't believe that much the existing housing sthok stock has a housing supply

system it wasn't built to the standards of today with the air supply is brought in maybe the high rising but the low rising only i mean, was built at a time when openable windows were allowed. >> now we have broken ground on phase one and this development is it significant to this - >> under the sequa mitigation measures. >> yeah. >> it has been required to be he same the sequa process hass has required mitigation measures to the standard. >> thank you so. >> oh, go ahead. >> supervisor kim. >> were you down with our prosecution. >> i think it's fine