get knocked out, i lifted my head and listened there was no sound he was not around. trained jail guard, yeah i stood a chance, not much, thank you. >> thank you. >> and if you could,..., thank you ma'am. >> if there is a... >> thank you for your comments. >> violence, paying the address, please? >> so that you can can't keep coming back, for stupid reports. >> thank you. >> that should be a supervisor all of the time. thank you. >> next? >> >> (inaudible) my place of work at balboa high school. my name is (inaudible) and i teach english here and i have been in the district for 7 years and born and raised here and so i have been teaching for 7 years. i want to acknowledge a lot of tension in the room and i also want to say so my solidary with

the two families. of pending cases, and with the woman who also shared her own many pending cases. i also want to first say and i am not putting this on the police department, but the only reason there are not more balboa parents and teachers and students, is because we are not given adequate warning and i am going to have a long talk with my co-workers and admin as to why we are not given time, the reason that is important because inspired by the case of grant in oakland, the students studied the general order, where the radio code, and also, the idea of police officers, getting out of their car and positively engaging with the taouts is from. so four sections of my tenth grade students studied this document, and analyzed this document and would have loved to have been here if they would have known. and so i am going to have a conversation with the principal, what i want to reiterate is that my students don't trust the police and i don't think that it is novel

news to anyone here that working class, black and brown people have a long understandable distress with the police department and with the state in many ways that is not new, but what i do want to reiterate is that when my students come with stories of hearing about alex's case, and of the young man, who face was pressed into the gutter by a police officer, these are the kinds of things that they come with and again, i understand the system, while i am greatly distressing of the notion of the policing as we do, have it in this country, i do also, understand that many of the students have had the positive interactions with the police and my ask is that we, i want to see the police, commission, really push for public use, distribution, and put in the newspaper, and all of these things of this actual general order because so much of the work that the people who are speaking to here has been done and layed out by the numerous folks and many of you and yet this is the first time that any

of the students and my families have read about it last year and so, it is on me, suddenly as a public schoolteacher to bring this kind of knowledge of their... >> thank you, ma'am. >> thank you for your comments. >> thank you. [ applause ] >> and just a suggestion, that you might consider inviting the chief or the member of the command staff or the commissioner to come and speak to the students since we missed the opportunity to do that, often times at elementary, fifth grade classes will be there and invite us back. >> thank you. >> hello, my name is yai son (inaudible) and i am an artist and educator in san francisco. and i just want to echo a lot of the sentiments that the teacher just shared. i actively work with the young people across san francisco and i am understanding the community, and policing general order and there is some really actual great ten ents that are in the general order, and specifically around the mutual respect and shared responsibilities and it is

really hard to be teaching that though, when it does not feel mutual and it does not feel shared. and one of the tactics that i have had to take is figure out how to have these conversations with the young people and with the different community members in order to make the meaning out of it for ourselves so that we can have a better understanding of what the general order means to ourselves so that we can have the bet every conversations across the shared responsibility and mutual respect. and but when, information is leaked out of our said, and off of the cuff that is irrelevant to cases, and when the things are when i hear daily stories from the young people, mostly black and brown youth, about the different microaggressions and way that the officers do approach them or if it is a little bit accuse torrey and it is and feels that, and it is hard to say yes, let's interact with the police. and it is really really difficult. and this is a white guy, talking about it, with black and brown communities, because i don't have the answers to that. and i am never going to have

the answers to that and i think that there needs to be a lot more work done internally in the department, about how to understand, what is mutual respect? what does it look like to you all? what are the behaviors of mutual respect? that is the first thing that i ask when i work with the young people? what does respect look like sound like, feel like? what are the interactions? what are the conversations that we have to have? how does it happen? do we look at each other in the eyes or not look at each other in the eyes, shake hands or not, all of these small behaviors matter. and we need to be able to understand that these are the behaviors that we all need to come to some understanding on and that is not happening. thank you. >> thank you. >> good night, first of all, i am sorry if you guys don't understand something that i say, i have a accent, i am sorry. and i only have questions. and there are my questions are,

you guys wants to get, totally understand on the committee and how do we feel like according to the work that you are doing for us? but have you guys thought of putting in the truth of being actually part of that community? and getting on the field and not putting that uniform and just the jeans and (inaudible) shirt, and see how other people or how even, your co-worker cops could treat you? honestly, i am the... and i am really scared and one day, that i will be stopped by a cop. these things that i have seen

make me worried about my life. >> this is for you guys. >> what is on the next news, you see joyer grandchild or your kid, being abused by a police officer. what would you do? how would you feel? i bet that you guys would feel exactly like us. and will feel, undescribable, and you will have all of this anger on you, thank you. >> [ applause ] >> sorry, i am short. so, good evening, community, and commission, my name is nina parks and i have been working on the issue of community policing, for quite some time. to kind of give the background i used to work at the community center here on mission and in 2009, there was a program that

was rolled out called perf and it was, all of a sudden we had like a officers on the streets, where we did not have that before and we came to a lot of conflict. which, led to us, reaching out to david campos, and to john avalos, and chief suhr and we started to revamp the community policing general order. and where we started to develop, quite a bit of new language in order to build different relationships between the community and the police. unfortunately that document has not really done anything. it is kind of sat there for the past three years. and with no action plan. right? so, as far as being a citizen here, it is, and also, advocate, and activist and organizer and like kind of disheartening because i am like

what in the heck am i spending all of this time doing? why am i organizing in the community if there is no action? if there is no change? , you know? and so, i feel like we are in a very unique time right now. and the police accountability is a national conversation and i feel that because of a lot of groundwork that we have already done here that we actually have lead that conversation. [ applause ] >> that we can set an example, and also, really address, what has happened, with alex, and use that as a way to set an example for the rest of this country, on how we can deal with this. some of this stuff that i do want to chime in, or agree with, is with christian and the teacher that was here and i worked with her on getting that into her curriculum because i talked to very long time ago, at a community meeting and we asked, how, people are going to know about this general order and there was no answer, so we started to reach out to the community to jason who has been teaching it to christian who is teaching it and but, we need

more. so, i would like to work with whoever is interested in creating it. more. >> okay. thank you. >> thank you. >> good evening, my name is mary, harris and i am the president of the district of eleven council, and the president of all of my neighbors in action. and a lot of what i was going to say, david, hooper already said. and so, i wanted to give accolades to our captain at last, and say thank you for the new captain, because he has hit the ground running and has been to a lot of community meetings and is going to be a really good community partner. i came here to say that. and i don't want to repeat it because david said it more eloquently. and i came here to ask about

the realignment of the police districts and i heard that there was going to every ten years there is a realignment and i want to be involved in that because, where i live in the lake view, we sometimes are in the teravil and we were once in the ingleside and we want to be sure that the community stays whole, no matter which police district and so i wanted to ask where that process is, because i have not heard anything more about it. and then, lastly, because of the tone of tonight's meeting, i just wanted to say that i think that our police department is the finest police department in the whole united states. i have had the opportunity of working with the police department, in the lake view, for over 40 years. and we have accomplished so many things together. closing down crack houses, and taking back our park, and building a school. and everything else that we have been partners. and i want to say that there is two sides to every story. my brother-in-law with the san francisco police officer and he

was shot and killed by a criminal. so, i understand the things that have to happen and why they happen and there is extensive reasons for the way things go down sometimes that we have to look beyond. my sister was left a widow and her three children have no father and he will never know his grandchildren and he was the most wonderful father on this planet and so my heart goes out to the familis that have lost their loved ones, and i tell you that it happens on both sides of the spectrum. so please, understand... >> respect everyone. >> why i have testified many times that this police department should have tasers and have alternate things besides using guns. so that no one else will lose their children or anything else. so thank you very much for listening. [ applause ]

>> okay i am sorry that i am late and it might have been said already, i work as a tour guide, and a tour bus driver. and in the last 18 years, all over san francisco, in the bay area. i have a lot of input from outsiders from the whole planet, every day, in my ears. and i want to mention, something they are astounded at in this city, the total lack ever enforcement against the extremely loud motorcycles, and this city is full of them. and no cop is stopping them. when i complain, they will stop one guy, but there seems to be no policy to cut the noise level, there has to be something done, secondly, the bikes and pedestrians are out of control and you might say, ha, she is a tour bus driver, of course she would think that i am a bike and i am a pedestrian and i do everything and everybody should understand, traffic enforcement. but apparently, they don't because the police are not

enforcing the laws against the pedestrians and the other violaters on bikes, and i am just sailing it that we have had a terrible accident the other day, on 46th and all of these things keep happening and no one puts them in the sf chronicle the truth that someone ran across the street out of the crosswalk, and how does the driver feel? put that on the front page. make it an issue in our city, we could become number one on the planet for top, safety, on the roads, when the police enforce the laws. but they are not, only against automobiles. that is wrong. and that is all that i have to say. as a native, who grew up three blocks from here. thank you. [ applause ] . >> thank you. >> further public comment? >> my name is lisa ganser and i

moved to san francisco like a year and a half ago. and when i first moved here, i noticed like living in the mission, that there was a like a political climate, that of gentrification and i looked for a way as an artist and activist to get involved in the community and a way to be proud of my neighborhood and a way to yeah, participate, and meet the people and make friends and i just moved here and i grew up to vernal heights quite a bit with dogs, and i walked dogs and i walk myed own dog and i heard about alex's death, and his murder, on facebook, someone had posted about it and, i had just recently been atop vernal, eating food and hanging out and i am professionally paid to be crazy. so, that is part of my activism too. it really angered me and it impassioned me to get involved

in the neighborhood and so i am here in solidary with the family. and being here, and meeting people... [ applause ] and meeting people through the activism and i found out other other cases like sullivan who was killed on june 6, 2006 and barricaded in an attic and i am helping to write an article about that right now and i have been sitting in on the civil suit, there has been a court proceeding in oakland that just ended. and they found that in favor of the police. so, we are going to be any way, i am writing an article about that, and sitting through that, court proceeding just showed me more and more how everything, is in favor of the police. and like, the police are going to afford to pay, $50,000 to an pert to create this huge, like farce of what has really happened and i am a little

nervous, but it is just disgusting to me how i am sitting here and i am hearing like, we live in the neighborhood and i went to school over there when i was a kid too, and i want to hear the negative side of the police. that killed the people. because we don't hear any of that. we hear about how crazy, the victims are, and the people who get killed and we don't hear anything about the police. all of those records are sealed. any way. [ applause ] >> hi, everybody, my name is maria (inaudible) and i am a mother, first and foremost and i am a early childhood advocate here in the bay area, and i am actually having a career change because of everything that is happening like i said i have been in the early childhood field and i believe in the education, first and foremost, but since everything is happening i am actually going back to school to do social work, to be a social worker. [ applause ] >> and so, i didn't have the

honor of knowing, alex, and the whole, story, has deeply affected me. i have a childhood friend, some of you may have known or heard of (inaudible) chang, who was killed by the police department, and the daily city swat team and why the swat team needed to show up is beyond my comprehension. he had a mental illness, and the bottom line of this story is that he basically was terrorized and kids and he was scared for his life and schizophrenic and then in half moon bay, the same thing happens, not much longer after it happened in (inaudible) and i have a 10-year-old son. and i cannot explain to all of you how it felt to have my son ask me why the police came and killed my friend, when the mother called for help. and to have to look at a little boy in the eyes a little

innocent child and explain these sorts of things, i don't wish upon nao*eg anybody nor do i wish upon any mother or father to have to feel the pain of losing a child. to call for help, you know, and then to have your child be taken from you. i don't get it. and i just want to send my respect to alex (inaudible) family and friends and everybody here who has been affected by this. as alex was, i am a buddhist as well and i have a really hard time understanding how he could have been a threat to anybody. i have only been practicing a year and i am at the most peaceful state that i have ever been in my life. and so, any way i look forward to helping change everything for the better, thank you. >> thank you. [ applause ] >> any further public comment? >> hearing none, public comment is closed. and now, it is time for my

colleagues to ask questions, of captain mcfadden and follow up on any items of interest. colleagues? >> or the chief. >> yeah. >> questions? >> thank you. >> commissioner dejesus? look at me. forgetting. >> it is for the chief and i know that i was gone for a couple of weeks but we have talked about putting cameras on officers, and there is i am just wondering if you can address that. >> we have secured 250,000 dollars to put cameras on 50 supervisors that we will and we are working on the policy and procedure, and meet and confer with the poa, and the, the main thrust of these particular cameras, would be to video tape the entries into the residentses, so that we make

sure that we capture the information at the door. and much has been asked about having cameras, on all police officers. and the 50 cameras that the cost is about $100,000. and annually to store the data, for 50 camera and so the cost will be $2.4 million annually to put the cameras on all police officers, ongoing. and so, as it is right now, the cost is prohibitive... (inaudible) >> hey, wait... (inaudible) nmr. miller we are going to respect everybody, we had a process and you had your two minutes. >> and again i am happy to have the conversation, but it would be, the current moneys in the san francisco police department budget are allocated and it would be an additional $2.4 million to put those cameras, like everything else in technology, though, the expectation is that the cost for the data storage would go down, because right now the department of justice does not

allow to us store in the cloud which would be cheaper. and so as the department of justice, the united states department of justice, catches up, and i think that the cost of the data storage will go down and i firmly believe and i would be, and i would, welcome the day when i think that the cameras are standard issue and i do think that day will come, but right now, sadly, the budget drives that issue. >> so it is ongoing. >> and it is ongoing issue that we are... >> right. the 50 cameras is the pilot program and obviously the want is from many people not only in this room but outside of the room that they, and that all police officers wear the cameras. >> thank you so much. >> and captain, mcfadden, it is impressive that you have 65 crt officers and i think maybe you can just tell the audience a little bit more about the cit and how important that it is, especially for the people who have mental illness or having a

crisis. >> thanks, so, a crisis intervention officers are trained to deal with people with mental el, health issues and the chief is saying that as many officers get trained and distributed throughout the different stations throughout the city and that is dealing with the mental health issues that we have across the city, which we have numerous calls and that is what the cit officers are all about and so we have, more than a majority here, adding to the 6500. >> and i think that one of the important things about this program was the training by all of these professionals, additional training and it is volunteer by these officers and it takes many numerous hours to get that training. >> right and, most of my officers there at ingleside did it long before i got there and now several others because there has been a rotation of officers have come in that are or have asked for the request for that training and i have signed it through for them to have it done. >> and the fact that two years

ago, we had nil and we have 65, and in your precinct i think that is mazing >> thank you. >> commissioner? >> other questions? >> colleagues? >> i have one question for the chief. there has been a lot of discussion about the community policing departmental general order, and one of the things that we do as a commission is that we set policy and we discipline and so any discipline comes to the police commission and so we do approve the departmental orders and that went through this body and the significance of a department general order is that it is a direct order from the chief, and so i just wanted to ask the chief about, if you could speak to what it is the departmental order is if i said that correctly and any response to our incorporate ration for the policing to the department. >> general orders are not actually direct orders from the

chief and they are binding by the police commission and so we have and they are para military organization and not military, and para in that we go by rank and order, and so the general order, are one of the main, or the main document that governors police officers and how we do things. so, we did work with nina and many of the other members of the community to arrive at the community policing general, and i think that when nina originally said that it was to enhance the community, and in general order, there was no community policing in general order, that is the first and only time ever there has been a community policing general order. and so, it is binding, on the officers, and i am happy to come and personally, and come to talk to the young people, about how the general orders go in. and but the officers are trained to it, and they are bound by it, and actually it is

a matter that if somebody believes that somebody was acting outside the general order, and any general order, that is a matter that can be complained to the occ if you believe that the officers are not being consistent with any policy of the police department. >> thank you, chief. >> if i could just chime in, there is a lot of talk about maybe the chief coming out to talk to the students here at balboa, and that is not something new, i can tell you that the chief was at lincoln high school and meeting with students as part of a regular program that he does have keeping the students in school. and explaining the benefit of a high school education and that is just one of the starting points of community policing. that he is visible and he is in the schools and talking to the students and i would not be surprised if he has been here and it is not something new, it is something that happened earlier today. >> thank you, commissioner. >> and the last thing that i want to acknowledge is the point that was brought up about the closed session, items not

being on the calendar. and say that is my call, there was administrative issues around being able to do a closed session here, and making sure that we had a quorum. so we are going to hear those matters on november 5th, they are closed session matters because there are statutory privacy rights involved in litigation to the extent that you want to come, november 5th. >> and thank you for raising those concerns. >> thank you. >> sergeant, could you call the next line item? >> line item 8, adjournment. >> action. >> move to adjourn. >> colleagues. i would ask for a motion to adjourn this meeting in the memory of the four victims who have died of domestic violence homicide this year. i am going to say their names. mary free man, matthew shehan, mary atcison and cecil.

a lamb. could i have a motion. >> i would move. >> second. >> second. >> all of those in favor. >> aye. >> the motion passes, we are adjourned.

>> good morning, today is october 21,, 2014, welcome to the county, transportation authority. my name is john avalos the chair of the authority. and today's broadcast is brought to us through sfgtv by jessy larson and charles criminacand the clerk is erika cheng. >> any announcements? noe. announcements. >> commissioner avalos? >> present. >> breed. >> here. >> campos? >> present >> chiu. >> present. >> cohen. >> absent. >> far ril? >> present. >> kim. >> here >> mar. >> present. >> tang. >> present. >> weiner? >> absent. >> commissioner yee. >> present. >> we have quorum. great,