this owner has come in voluntarily to try to legalize or try to get rid of the illegal unit but this commission does have the ability in disapproving the permit under section 207.3 so and as you noted this commission doesn't have authority over what happens to the tenant that is a separate matter for the rent board to you to continue it and take dr and disapprove or approve with conditions of some sort. >> can we approve the entire structure. >> no. we're moving an illegal unit be let's get rid of it we can't do that. >> you're being subconscious.

>> i recommend we take dr and not approve it. >> commissioner johnson. >> thank you very much there's lots of again to clarify the issues i definitely agree with not approving the building permit we can't force the legalize we can't force them to sell it i want to focus why i'm going to support denying the project first of all, itself think it's absurd the project sponsors has brought up things that has nothing to do with to do with the tenant where they're a litigious or the person who owned the property was two nice that has nothing to

do with why we're here i understand that the trustee needs to sell the building as part of you know his obligations to get vail and thees state it is not necessarily our purview to help you maximize that value you have the property as it exists sell it to someone that will definitely buy it and leave it that's not within our purview when we look at the building permit as a project we don't care i'm sure you'll be able to sell to somebody look at the building paratransit there are no outstanding violations on the existing unit it's been there for decades it sounds like it's

been elevated as two separate unions one legal and not not for that reason i don't see a particular reason to support the demolishing of a non-conforming structure turn it into a residential unit not a conforming structure with noted outstanding structures again, i totally understand the trustees position the hearings are in upper your schard that this obligation but not our job to get involved as a trustee and not get involved if any sort of rent board or tenant lymph

gland. >> commissioner antonini. >> i'm concerned the dr requester didn't show up which is kind of odd i'll favor a continuance because i be i'd like to at least see if we can get the dr requester to come here and perhaps the project sponsors could try to work further with the dr requester to see if there's a way to resolve her retainedcy situation and see if we want to leave the kitchen in it or not and it becomes a simpler thing i'll make a motion i'll see if i get a second. >> i wasn't aware it was continued i'm going to probably support the motion the dr

requester didn't come and i wonder how mafltd she is. >> let me just comment so this is an unusual one i'm sympathetic you're trying to live out the wishes but the dr requester is not here we have no idea of their complaint and maybe a legitimate reason they're not here so i'll support a continuance i understand that commissioner richards position on this i like our energy on it i'd rather take that energy and fight when a bigger issue and maybe a project will come up i'm a little bit torn there is so many unusual pieces i'm not sure we have make a full judgment so

in localizing that that i'll support of the continuance. >> second. >> second. >> in regards to my continuance i'd like to see what presentation she had from the previous owner was she begin i want you to answer because you didn't before i want to know was she told it was an illegal unit or her situation that has a lot of bearing how i'll vote was she told this was illegal and they were letting her stay there perhaps i don't feel so strong about protecting her presence there that's the motion to continue i think we have a month but - anyway you'll want a date and i'm sorry

for me i don't believe i'll support a continuance it doesn't change the physical land use question about commissioner johnson said we think that one illegal unit should be removed or not removed did 0 dr requester may have contacts. >> commissioner richards. >> did the tenants residency would the dr still be in effective if she moves. >> i'll support a continuance. >> commissioners, we have a motion and a second to continue 24 for one month to december 4th. >> commissioner antonini commissioner hillis commissioner johnson no commissioner richards no commissioner fong

no arrest commissioner president wu. >> that fails there is, however, a motion to take dr and disapprove the building permit application on that motion because there wasn't an action memo with finding for disapproval the city attorney strongly recommends we reiterate those findings so if commissioner johnson could you reiterate the reason why you want to take dr that will assist me in creating finding. >> sure i am supporting taking dr and disapproving the building permit because the illegal dwelling has no what do you call actions

items gentiles it notice of violation against it it does constitute a third dwelling illegal to it might be i see no reason to discontinue it i don't believe it impacts the ability of the trustee to sell the property or make any other land use decisions at this time. >> yes. i believe i was able to grasp what commissioner richards in the case of preserving affordable housing and if any other commissioners want to add a findings of their own. >> i believe it is the mayors derivative to preserve units. >> ma'am, city attorney is that

good? all right. so bear with me just a moment so i can - and so on the motion then to take dr and disapprove the building predicament application it preserves the affordable housing and the illegal unit is without a complaint and violation the illegal unit does not prohibit the trust to sell the building it is kept with the mayors divisive >> so sell the property or take any other land use decisions if you want to do that. >> so noted.

>> i never know. >> on that motion commissioner antonini commissioner hillis commissioner johnson commissioner richards commissioner fong no commissioner president wu so moved, commissioners, that motion passes that planning commission motion passes 5 to one with commissioner fong voting against expirations that places you on general public comment i have no speaker cards is there any general public comment? >> you may. >> when we were planning after all there were 8 houses we live in two house near the area all the houses are the same it has a living room and diagram not a bedroom and the reason i know hal la i handled her real estate

and she's had the back unit where it says all utilities will be paid by her, she knew you it was adjacent to her unit before all of this started we actually called liz to the planning department i have a voice recording that told us what to do we went into down to the planning department they said we need the report fixed the inspector looked at the property and investigated if better than to get the building cards from 891 to 1950 it states it's an adjunct space the tenant was aware when we approached her

in january and told her hal lazy wishes we'll oh, her relocation fees he her response it's expensive to move that's not going to be enough when you our talking about a tenant that be take advantage of a very kind woman who gave her housing i know you're talking about someone that housing i believe that holding it up and not letting it sell for a higher value i don't know what the people are going to do i know this is stressful on us where the city directed us to do that and the staff gave us a advise was all directed and in the

notes there were give it to you this tenants makes well over $80,000 that wants to get money from a dead woman is wrong having to allow her to continue to live there and take up that space and not go through the process that everybody else is gone through to make halos wishes it really, really wrong i'm a native which the san francisco when you talk about diversity i don't know how other than the native-american and other people that understand this she is adamant to get money from a dead woman it's wrong thank you for listening to me. >> thank you yes. >> i urge you in the spirit of

our decision but it is not what i intended this is the property is going to displace her and all we're going to do is transferring the zoning and selling it at a lower price by reducing the value of the property your reducing the tax basis of city that's pga our salary you're only displacing - i said in the spirit of keeping affordable housing that's really not what is going to happen because the structure of the property and whoever buys this is going to displace her anyways, the person that should get the value is thees state of

hoa la and thank you. >> okay additional. seeing none, public comment is closed meeting adjourned

>> welcome to the mayor's disability council, in honor of national disability, employment

awareness month, our agenda will be a little unusual in order to accommodate our speaker's schedule, we will be moving general public comments to the end of our agenda, however, there will still be an opportunity to provide disability employment related comments after the speakers are finished, city hall is accessible to people using wheelchairs and other devices, on the van ness iva ramps, entrances is provided via a wheelchair lift, assistive listening devices are available and the meeting is opened captioned and interpreted. >> our agenda is available in large print and braille, ask the staff for any additional assistance. >> to prevent, the electronic interference with the system and everyone's ability to focus on the presentations silence all mobile phones and pdas, your cooperation is appreciated. we welcome the public's participation during the public

comments and you may complete a speaker's card, available in the front of the room or call the liej at 415-554-9632, for a staff person will hand a request to speak at the appropriate time, the mayor's disability council meetings are generally held on the third friday of the month, the next meeting will be on november 21, 2014, from 1 to 4 p.m. here at san francisco city hall in room 400, call the mayor's office of disability for further information or to request accommodations 415-5546785. or you can dial rkts 415-554-6799 for the tty line, and a reminder to speak slowly to assist the captioners and interpreters, and also, due to

a last minute illness of one of the asl interpreters this meeting will not have full interpretation, but will be captioned and transcripts will be available on the website, thank you for your understanding and thank you for joining us here today. >> next, we will have the action item two, reading and approval of the agenda. >> agenda item number one, welcome, introduction and roll call. >> number two, reading and approved of the agenda, agenda item three, information item, comments by supervisor eric mar district one, on the occasion of national disability employment awareness month. item four, informational item, transitional public service employment for workers with

disabilities, presentation brett andrews executive director posive resources inc. agenda item number five, information item, advocacy for employment of people with disabilities in city service. presentation by jonathan lyens, president fdr democratic club of san francisco, for senior and people with disabilities. and break, the council will take a ten-minute break item 6, information itema review of civil service rule 115 and its' implementation for hiring people with disabilities. presentation by donna kotake, department of human resources, workforce development director, city and county of san francisco. item 7, information item, san francisco public library and its successful implementation of civil service rule 115,

presentation by marti goddard, access services manager, san francisco public library. agenda item number 8, information item, comments from community-based organizations that train and place workers with a broad spectrum of disabilities. terry goodwin, director of partnerships and business development, the arc of san francisco, mark melanson, director of community services, tool works, jessy, lorenz, executive director independent living resource center of san francisco. ilrc. >> public comment is welcome. agenda item number 9, information item, department of children youth and families, dcyf, youth workforce development update, presentation by maria su, executive director dcyf, city and county of san francisco. agenda item number ten, public

comment items not on today's adeny da but within the jurisdiction of the mdc. each speaker is limited to three minutes. agenda item number eleven, information item, report from co-chair supanich. >> agenda item 12, information item, report from director of the mayor's office on disability. agenda item number 1 3, information item, correspondence. >> agenda item 14, discussion item, council members comments and announcements. >> agenda item number 1 5, adjournment. co-chair, roll call, please? >> yes.

[roll call] >> thank you. >> nearly 25 years after the passage of the american with disability act, 83 percent of people with disabilities are still unemployed, according to the u.s. department of labor the rate is at 13.2 percent. and defined as people who did not have a job or were available for work and actively looking for work. and the disability council decided to devote a series of meetings, this month to mark the occasion of national disability employment month, we

will look at the city of san francisco and the effort to employ people with disabilities and we have a number of speakers today representing advocates policy makers and city departments. we ask for your patience and cooperation as we hold public comment on this issue until the end of all presentations, thank you. >> and now, on to agenda item three. information item, comments by subpoenaer eric mar district one, supervisor mar addresses the council on occasion in october as national disability employment awareness month. >> it to the chair, and all of the commissioners sweshlly harriot who taught me a lot about the richmond district and the needs of people with disabilities it is an honor to be here as an allie for people with disability and community based organizations that have educated me, and i think that johnson and susan that have helped me understand from the

lens of a disabled person the perspective of civil rights and equity and justice for people, the 83 percent that are unemployed and many more, issues to be treated with dignity and empowerment as well in our city and i want to say that on this national disability employment awareness month, my hope is that we don't just look at it today or this month, that is becomes integrated in the culture and institutions that allow equal opportunity and equal for people with disabilities. >> i think that for me, as an allie, i want to support the community based organizations and so i am proud that there are so many great ones here in san francisco and throughout the region as well and that we work with as partners in the city to advance our agenda for civil rights for the people. and i want to emphasize that setting goals is critical and i think that the co-chairs for sitting with me and the community based groups as well to help me see how i can help

to advance and push forward with my ten other colleagues on the board of supervisor and with the mayor and other city officials as well, and as the chair mentioned, 25 years, since the passage of the ada, is several decades that we shoulding proud of the progress made but there is a lot more work to be done and i want to focus on employment because i know that is where a lot of the community baitioned groups have put their efforts, i want to thank jonathan and the club not just for the advocacy but city wide for raising the issues for people with disabilities to my office and working with my staff and the others in the disability rights community and the disabled advocates themselves to try to craft good policy, motions and the hearing that we held on june 5th, i think was a first step, and i really thank tremendously the mayor's office on disability and the commissioners and all of the community-based groups

to help to build toward that hearing but there is much more work to be done. and i also wanted to say to that employment with the people with disability ss a key area, where so much more work needs to be done and i think that the department of labor, as of september, states that the people with disabilities are one-third less likely to be employed as people who don't have disabilities. besides the unemployment statistics and this, it shows that we as a city could be doing much more, and i think working together to draft some goals but data gathering and i know that was an issue that came with the department of human resources and my hope is that we can get around the privacy concerns and survey and other methods and we can gather the data and not just the federal state data but also what is going on in our city and i think that the human stories told that that hearing is the best