to help to build toward that hearing but there is much more work to be done. and i also wanted to say to that employment with the people with disability ss a key area, where so much more work needs to be done and i think that the department of labor, as of september, states that the people with disabilities are one-third less likely to be employed as people who don't have disabilities. besides the unemployment statistics and this, it shows that we as a city could be doing much more, and i think working together to draft some goals but data gathering and i know that was an issue that came with the department of human resources and my hope is that we can get around the privacy concerns and survey and other methods and we can gather the data and not just the federal state data but also what is going on in our city and i think that the human stories told that that hearing is the best and most eye

opening experience that the people with disabilities and the struggles that they face with training and employment it is not only enough to become employed perhaps through rule 115, or other tools, but also the support systems built into every single department in our city with the clear goals of support so that the people can be successful and i wanted to also, emphasize that one of my friends, john hamond was able to get support from the arc and he is a richmond district resident and a young man with so much to give to the neighborhood and in this community. and he was hired by the academy of sciences and i was proud to be with the jobs alliance and so many others that are here today to acknowledge that it is not about charity, it is about solidary and equal opportunity for people and john will become a mentor to others as the academy of sciences moves from 4 people that they have hired to expanding doubling that and making better efforts too, but my hope is that other private

and public sector employees and employers look at models like that also what came up is the number of best practices and my hope that we are looking at see at sxl across the bay that we as a city, of course, we know and we are proud of a lot of the innovations that we do and i think that we should be humble and look at other best practices in other cities as well. but i think for me, as an activist and as a legislator, it is really thinking about the broader civil rights movement that people with disabilities speaking in their own voices, building their own alliances with other organization and that really drives a lot of the work that we are doing, i think, today. and i just wanted to add a couple more points and i think that the city and county of san francisco has one way of stream lining individuals with disabilities into city employment, through the civil service rule 115. that has not been widely used and known recently, but it

allows the qualified employees with disabilities to enter the city employment without a civil service exam and my hope is that we can raise awareness through the new hire in the department of resources mr. wo ng and also clarify the percentage of time that he will dedicate, because right now in the position it might look at the job description, it is it and law enforcement and safety and there is not a clear role for support of people with disabilities and i know that a man that came in the community and the grassroots groups was at a full time position where the clear point of contact was daoet manned and we are far off from that and i am appreciative of the progress in dhr as well and i would like to ask not just the department of human resources but all city departments and my colleagues in the city government leadership to be receptive and

it is one tool and there are many other tools that we can use and by putting our heads together we can advance it as a tremendous leader but i thank the council for all of your work and thank you for inviting me here today. thank you. >> thank you, have youer much for coming here today. >> information item number four, pilot program, transitional public service, employment for workers with disabilities, recently enacted section 503 guidelines and we are seeking to develop a pie late project, for workers with disabilities and presentation by brett andrews executive director of positive resources inc. >> good afternoon, council, and i am brett andrews, and i am proud to be the executive director of positive resource center. and i feel the need to throw some disclosures out there

first, council person wong daughter is a supervisor i am and familiar with this and i am a ethic's commissioner and so thank you for making the time for me to come and talk to you about the local and state wide efforts that we have and supervisor mar said that so much of what i wanted to say. 25 years, in to it, and it is still a challenge, and i will say for positive resource center who has the employment services program, the oldest hiv employment services program in the nation. i was proud to represent san francisco when the new hiv policy director douglas brooks had a convening from the white house and wanted to hear all that they are doing in the terms of efforts of hiring people with disability and it was clear that i was gland that around the table there was not a lot of substance that was there and so it was a quick reminder that we have a lot of

work to do. but representing positive resource center in san francisco, and i was very pleased and not surprise that had san francisco leads the way in so many efforts. and as you are aware, in september, of 2013, federal government, enacted section two, 503 regulation and then in february, of 2014, the council state workforce envoftment board put out a calling for proposals through the fund to look at innovative ways to create job opportunities for people with disabilities specifically calling out folks with disabilities and high barriers to employment. and myself, along with some key folks across the community, michael and the former edddirector and the institute and a along with the folks in fresno came together and wrote a proposal. for that, we were funded and we

are seeking to use multiple efforts and ways, not only through rule 115, but through this pilot program that i am going to talk to you about in the next couple of minutes to see how we can increase the efforts on a local level to have more folks employed particularly in civil service jobs. the project focuses specifically on workers with developmental disabilities who have been unemployed for at least a year. and it places them into positions in the public sector at minimum wage to perform useful public work that would not be performed and the participants gain the work experience for up to nine months with the goal of transitioning them into the unsubsidized employment in the public and the private sector. and over the past few months, we have a series of meetings and i am very pleased to say, that the city has been receptive and carla took a meeting and we had a reading

with mixky to talk about rule 115 and ways that we can add more strength and enforcement to that. it was great to hear supervisor mar and i really appreciate supervisor mar and i believe that chiu co-authored the hearing in june and it is timely for all of us and i am so excited for so long we taught the 4.7, and 4.8 rate that we have in san francisco and will not drill down on geographic areas and key individuals and dem graphic and so it is really nice and timely that we are having this conversation. we seek to have about 15 participants to participate in this pilot program which will be transitional where they will receive, some subsidy. and really working with 115 and possibly within the structure of the job style program with hsa and i have a call out to talk about ways in which we can enhance and augment that program where the clients will

be with jobs now and ultimately transition into that transition into that program. and we are also looking to work with other organizations in the community, tool works, and rams in order to identify other individuals who are interested in employment, and have faced barriers to that employment. i say this was a point of information it is still in the developmental stage, we are looking for your support. we you are looking for your encouragement, and we will be moving forward and meeting with the key other boards of supervisors, and with the mayor's office, and meeting with kate howard and it is really seeking to find a way in which we can put resources to it in ways that we haven't, in the past. and i do believe that sometimes we do have to identify, resources and have them dedicated to key populations that have not been paid to historically. we have seen that often in the

hiv population, where we needed to pay attention to the key areas of the community and i think that this is one such effort that we could do that. i share with you that we are going to continue to meet with the department heads and the board of supervisor and the mayor and move forward and 15 people have employment by the end of 2015 and, with that, i leave the space for questions, or clarification, on our efforts as we move forward? >> questions from council members? >> i would like to thank you for coming today mr. andrews and it is wonderful work done at your agency.

and but i was wondering, and you say that it speaking in hopeful terms, do you have some sort of time line, when you think? >> well, we are going to take, and we are going to hopefully use, october as the disability employment awareness month. to engage in these conversations with the city, and seek to have the funding by january of 2015, so that we can have nine solid months of training, and subsidized employment with there being some out comes at the end of 2015. and the other thing that i will say to you, is that this is the first round of funding for the grant and they are paying close attention to what we do as local municipalities in response to that, and i think that it is an innovative program that we have written and we are looking for that kind of support and if indeed we are successful in getting that type of support, there is a second round of funding that

comes from the state that will find wait into san francisco and so we are working hard in a short amount of time in order to achieve the out comes. >> what types of jobs will these folks be? >> since, there were, and specifically focusing in the public sector, we are looking to talk to each city department and we were meeting with nicky and we wanted to hear what you were looking for in so many ways we wanted to match the job to the skills and the abilities of our workers. and so, there is still an internal assessment that being done across the city departments and i think that we will be getting some information to hear but we want it all the way from office to jobs and park and rec and gardeners and it is very clear that people who are disabled are not limited in their job abilities. and so we will want to give them the broadest away of the job opportunities that there are, and we are looking to hear from the city, and i think that the evaluation and the

assessment and the activation and the reconstitution of 115, will inform a great deal of that as they do an internal assessment. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> all right, i had a quick question. >> i really happy to hear that making sure that the people and the city departments and the public are aware of just the extent to which the people just can work but usually there is a generalized stereotype if you will that the people with disabilities should or should not work. >> do you believe that there should be a type of public educational output to these internal departments before the internal reviews so that they are aware of the actual abilities of people with the disabilities before the review. >> yeah, and it is just as much a question for me as it is for the human resources department because we had this discussion and, so what needs to come

first? what are the next natural steps and if indeed there is information shared with the city departments, here is 115 and, it has been here and there is modest movement on it and we are seeking to take it to the next level and here are three or four out comes that we are looking for and give the guidance on what we are seeking to do and the out comes for us and the individuals with disabilities employed in the city government to report back on some of the jobs that are opened and we were opening to have a portal to just have the jobs up and ready to look at in real time and so the organizations could go right into it and see what is there. because, that is generally what we do, from craig's list and so many other portals when our clients are meeting with us and i think that city could play an instrumental role in that and i think that there is assessment that needs to happen within each city department than figure out and i am sure that there are may more rules that

are and regulations that needed to be abided by in order to do that. but there are ways to get those job opportunities to organizations like prc and ramand two works so that we can be competitive in a timely fashion, because often we don't get to those in times and they need to be fair in terms of access to our clients. >> thank you very much. >> yeah, sure. >> sorry. >> we do have one last question come up. failed to see the screen. >> councilman? >> hi, mr. andrews thank you for coming today. >> sure. >> i am interested in what type of applicants would they be looking for so can applicant,

is the applicant supposed to be an independent person that can travel alone and do things by themselves? or is it someone that well, like my daughter has problem of entirety of a 2-year-old, but she is do things and she does a lot of things at home. but in order for her to work, there will always have to be someone with her. >> that is right. well in this particular initiative that we are moving forward and so these are public sector jobs, and it is going to and we are going to need the guidance of the city to tell us what they are looking for first, before we will reach out to these 15 individuals, to see if there is an opportunity for them. and i think that there are massive opportunities across the public, private sectors in order to find opportunities for your daughter. specific to her skills and her

abilities. and the accommodations that she may need. and i think we are going to learn a lot as we delve into what it looks like to create a pipeline for the people in the public sector and we may find that there are more barriers than we thought and i have a feeling or just a hint, that there probably will be. and i appreciate that 115, is there, and but it is not the silver bullet, there will still be hurtles that are needed and i think that in many ways there will need to be an assessment to see is that really what is required for that job? is there a way in which that job can be done by a few different individuals who may experience a different types of disabilities and so it really, it is an opportunity for the city to take a look at its own hiring practices and its own job description and recognize thating there is a population of people who may be very skilled and able to do those

jobs. >> questions for the staff. >> thank you for coming here today and telling us more, it was such a pleasure to meet with you this year on this topic. there is an emerging theme about the performance goals and how best to measure the ability to reach those goals and i believe that i heard you mention that under the 503 program that the federal government has the performance goals of 7 percent from the workforce to be people with disabilities. >> okay. >> we have heard some concern from our city side about how best to gather these statistics to see how well we might be reaching those goals and i wonder if you have suggestions for the city on how to gather that kind of information. >> yeah, you know, positive resource center started off as a hiv and we expanded to mental health and hipa comes up a lot and how do you get the information to address the need that is in the community? and a lot has to do with

self-reporting, educating the individual on what they are reporting on to make sure that you get the signed consent from them and then to reach out to them and get as good of information as you can and it is not unlike another effort that is happening in the disabled community where a lot of people are on the long term disability policies and who are just aging off and since they are on the policy and the city wants to do that and way to create a possibly a financial step down for them so it was not as precipitus, how do you find that information if you are not in the system and where are those invisible, and in many ways, those invisible people and so i will back to the co-chair's response and i think that it is a marketing effort and it is an out reach effort that will not be like a job fair but an information fair that one, indicates individuals on what they are needing to report to us, so

that we can better respond to them. and so i think that we have to start all the way back to the very beginning, full consent and full knowledge and moving in a timely fashion to seek to create the programming that will address the need. >> okay. >> and we actually have some other comments from the council members? >> thank you so much for coming. i just want to make a comment in regards to another population, that often gets overlooked when we are talking about the disability community. and that is the veteran population. and so the veterans with disabilities and seeing if you are have it on your radar to connect with other veteran organizations in the city, that are doing some of the same things to insure that veterans with disabilities are receiving the same access to those, highly sought after jobs. >> i agree, and i was just talking to michael about that, and, the services that we

provide, with those employment service and benefits are very much in line with what the services they are providing to the plow share and it was very encouraging because i just hired an out reach worker who did an in-service on way that we can collaborate a little better on these efforts and i really appreciate councilman what you were saying, because i think that for a lot of people in the community, at the local level, somehow have decided that they are going to mark the box because they think that it was taken up for the latest of a federal effort, where i really appreciate our first lady and the second lady going out and creating the public private partnerships with disney and the other corporation but that does not mark the box fully and i know a couple of organizations that have taken these on and created projects, and other places as well. but i feel that in so many ways, when we see that in the community we feel that it has been done and that is not the

case and i want you to know that on a very, very local community based level we are having those conversation and may very well get equal to if not greater out comes. >> i am an employee. >> yeah, that is great. >> all right, great. >> absolutely. >> and councilman wong? thank you very much for the presentation so far. you mentioned about some employment maybe for the verico, i used to work at laguna honda in medical records, and time and time again that the staffing and sometimes have the shortage, and then, we have trouble, you know, putting together the charts and the medical records and so you know do you have people fully employed, you know, that is another option, of you know, possibly hiring people to do certain tasks.

>> we are highlighting again the exercise that the city will have to go through, driven by 115, to do an internal access of what jobs are out there and trying to debunk what we believe are the requirements in

order to do that job and really thinking fully who is eligible of doing the jobs and the skills to do that all wait up and including the full disabled population, and then once we have an understanding of that, while in as we believe in at least a minimum of a double pronged effort we will do a series of informational fares across the city, where we are gathering information, and maybe district by district and figuring out where the disabled population and what the needs are, and district by district and having these informations there and educating them on 115 and, our efforts around it. and so again for me, i don't think that the work is remarkable, i think that it is important and it is needed, and so much more of it needs to be done and we just have to commit to doing it. >> right >> thank you. >> we have one last question, from council members. thank you for taking your time. >> thank you it is not so much of a comment, it is a comment, not so much as a question, i want to also thank you for being here today. and i like what you said in the beginning of your presentation

about matching the applicant to the job and having that dialogue with the individual and i appreciate that interaction. i know that depends on the education and skill set, but they could be developed or mentored to get to a level of advancement if it is possible. >> and we are talking about the city of san francisco to say while we are busy doing this and let's not just create one more level of, you know, plat

end jobs, but we really want to find these individuals and matriculating through and contributing in ways because we have the same hopes that the able bodies do. i have been hiv positive and i have been fortunate not to have step out of employment, but at the same time i know that there are challenges every day that i face, and i hold and i have td same dreams and i make a personal commitment to you as i am a part of the positive project and i challenge the city to match and meet all of us in those same aspirations. >> thank you. >> and we hope to see you back as things develop. >> absolutely, happy to come, thank you. >> moving on to information item number 5, advocacy for

employment of afor people in disabilities and this presentation or discusses the problem and benefits, and discusses the problem, as well as the benefits of employing people with disability and proposes practical solutions that the city and county of san francisco can implement to be a leader in addressing this issue, presentation by jonathan lyens president of the fdr democratic club of san francisco for senior and people with disabilities. >> thank you council members, once again, my name is jonathan lyens and i am the president of the fdr democratic club for the people with disabilities and there are a couple of disclaimers at the beginning. i am a proud city employee this

issue is personal for me, and the city of san francisco is a place that gave me a lot of my first shots, you know, began my career with the city, and actually working in the mayor's office and then i had more opportunities, afforded to me by the city's department of human resources, and calahan personally, is a mentor of mine, and somebody that i respect very, very much, and really gave me an opportunity to learn a lot about labor and employment and i have moved on to the city's department of public health and so i had a lot of opportunities in the city and i come at this issue as somebody who wants to see other folks with disabilities qualified applicants with disabilities afforded the same opportunities that i have been

granted. so, without further adieu, i have a brief presentation, i am going to go through, and one other thing that i totally forgot, my nerves are getting away with me. i wanted personally thank supervisor mar supervisor mar, we approached him onthies you, he was very receptive and learning about this issue and hearing more, and then he very pro-actively approached us and said, why don't we have a hearing about this issue with the board of supervisors which really kick started this whole thing and i want to thank the department of human resource and carla, and donna, and everybody else, all of the advocates who are sitting behind me and all of the others that could not be here today that did show up to the meeting and gave their personal stories. so, all right, to the

presentation. and so i want to go just sort of very quickly to paint the piblgt picture that there are a lot of facts that a lot of people know the federal department of labor did not actually start tracking, did not bother to figure this out, how many people with disabilities are unemployed until 2009. and we have and so we are really dealing with the less than 5 years of data. and on the slide, that is on the screen here, and there is a table or a line graph that shows, the unemployment rate of the disability community, compared to the unemployment rate of those without disabilities, and it is, roughly, double. and is a pretty staggering statistic in