more the recommends around enforcement. >> can i ask a quick question about the ticket cost i know there's a difference between mta penalty is and sf pd penalty for the same violation is it set by the state or is it something that sfmta can set similar to a parking ticket. >> i can look at but i'm not sure it's a california vehicle code violation so. >> okay. again, supervisors cameron enforcement supervisor just briefly about what we're doing today we've pretty much focused on intersections that led to the bay bridge assess in

more recent times in a year and a half we've spent an incredible amount of resources for the market street corridor for the effectiveness project now muni forward both cases there issues are the same intersections with gridlock and because those historically those locations have had more so like fulsome street vs. first and harvey's on ramps they lead into a tunnel on the freeway and have been historically a major problem for us we've been out at first and harrison for several years now and roadway unless we need to have pcos actively

professionalism 6 posts we're running the signal box right now just to keep traffic flowing so we don't have a bottle next it works well on thursday and fridays and every week, we have a pco there 0 again, if we need more with whether a pd support we've deploy pcos to locations that are needed depending on the situation they'll fix posts and pedestrian seas or vehicular movement or any combination of those again, we talked about the 3 workerss it's important that we have public awareness and education i see and drive the city quite a bit and see a lack of signage that is clear to me

our public is not aware sometimes or not clear as to what they should do and their rights resulting from the pilot certainly improvement recognizes the need for increased pco support at the intersections or at key intersections what we would like to do is initially establish for the p.m. periods and again, we want to focus an thursday and fridays because historically those have been the worst days not to say they're the worse but historically so we would like to use our deploy of small pcos for thursdays and fridays between the peak period of 3:30 and 6:30 depending on the intersection attribute more pedestrians

problems or vehicles problem 6 pcos 3 intersections 3 pcos at each intersection until we need in the morning we'll work with sf pd if he wanted to do a saturation or sting at particular intersections but if we could start with a small group of pcos and move around the key intersections we define and see if we can change behaviors enforce at the given intersection may be able come back to it a few days later and move around to mix up the predictability i think that nibbling you you know we want to get data to show that the type

of enforcement we're able to do with the staffing we do have is focus active any questions. >> thank you thank you very much. >> thank you cameron so my presentation is i did want to also give age can i get the slides again our interims were really great this summer we couldn't have made this pilot happen they were out there for hours in the middle of the night counting cars so i just wanted to thank them and liz is liz brighten is following this unless you have questions. >> i know we have a number of residents that want to speak so

i'll hold off can we have liz come up. >> good afternoon let our rejoicing rise, with the san francisco transportation authority here to try to talk about the pilot in context of the boarder set of strategies that we have to management changing the problems of traffic congestions thought the city particularly in selma so to start i want to just through up a couple of pictures i took this was on opening day of giants season of traffic congestion there it is and also the impact it has to muni to supervisor cohen sdrusz discussed in her opening rangers and pedestrians trying to cross

with the crosswalk is blocked and also for cyclists and truck drivers it's hard to navigate a transacting truck through the gridlock and bicyclists that went to the other side of the street i wanted to introduce it in this way this problem of all the cars on the street is one that i don't think is going to be revolved but don't block the box the reality a lot of people want to go home by crossing the bay bridge how quickly a car can get on the bridge not to mitigate by car or by walking or transit that being said i know i wanted to frame the issue in context of the set of tools in the toolbox to manage congestion and in the

context of the supply and demand side strategy on the supply side san francisco is a congested city we can't add more lanes to roads so there's a few other things on the supply side that includes the type of enforcement we're discussing as well as signal timing and another one in context of mission bay reconnecting street lights their resilient things on the demand side there is a whole lost things we can think of one set of things increasing or improving more focusing efficient options like in terms of how much space they took place on the rise and more effective amenities and more

options for carpoolers and getting the right incentives to include everything from the sf parks crisis flaw in the city the code pricing system that's been study by the sfmta as well as the category of transportation demand management strategies that can include things like working with the flexibility work schedules so we should do all of those things to manage congestion i don't think there's a silver bullet by to work at all the pieces to look at the challenging issue the transportation authority cletd completed our transportation plan and some of the things anywhere that and it is not only at the among other things but the sfmta strategy plan echo the

importance of those strategies that being said the the devil is in the details we should do all of those things but how do we get to where we want to be i want to talk about how this relates to one component of the waterfront that was introduced we were calling it phase two now mission bay analysis this is a mouth full but hopefully descriptive of what it is and this work is underway i wanted to provide a few of the initial finding and caucasian to the public hearing in a few weeks focused on selma and the waterfront area where so much of our growth is planned and the two key outcomes would be a

target of peak hour trips by corridor by mode that accommodations you'll the trips and two getting to the scale of investment into other modes of transportation needs that make it work so i - here are a few of the things we've learned so far we'll have admonish in a couple of weeks the first how much we've approved now we call the baseline everything this is in the cue under construction or coming down the pipes this is itch more substantial than the focus of making our based on in the future work awhile also accommodating the needs that exist on the grounds is important on the roadway

capacity side in the transbay corridor we're pretty much at capacity that makes sense if you think about it people trying to get on the bridge and supervisor kim when our initial remarks you mentioned the study 26 percent more our finding was in the future we need 267 percent less vehicles to not face the next that is a much easier way to explain the findings we've not been able to do an sophisticated analysis not only the transbay corridor but mission bay and south of the freeway in selma are not at capacity rate roadway but will be getting close to that in the future we have room for 20 percent more growth if we keep the same roadway before we end up with a problem it's a

relevant for mission bay we don't have a street grid and having that change could be challenging so still to come is the discussion of all of the transit modes transit and i by one hundred we're working on right now i want to emphasize we'll be drafting we can accommodate more trips through credential updates for policy changes i feel like when i did the work i feel short that the planners should conclude we can solve those transportation problems that's where we are headed speaking of where we're heated this is a schedule that shows the road maps of this particular effort but we're between the first and second red dot right now we have been in

e-mail with the public about our plans to moderate with the scope we're planning a meeting on november 19th from 6 to 8:30 at the port of san francisco and hope to wrap up with the our finding and recommendations late this year or early next year this will not be the end it is a challenge it get there this is any colorful flowchart that shows how to get to the future and mission bay so first, i want to talk about the gray is there is a lot of things to make a huge difference that is important this is not a comprehensive list but includes electrification and subway embarcadero bike way and transportation improvements and bart and muni railcars this is

their walk fir1 and the 6th str. >> excuse me. what was that one more time. >> i want to see if you could do that again. >> (laughter). >> so then i said those things a minute ago we're going to debiting give you representative scales of investment it is a small by helpful campus as we try to plan for your future the target of how many people to accommodate to actually turn projects into real things this is where this representative scale for the update regional plan that is underway approved

in 2015 we'll be motivating and updating our san francisco transportation plan to track that and to fun investment and hopeful that delivered policies and procedures will have a more sustainable transportation network i heap e hope while i'm still allow. >> thank you, ms. bring and our presentation on the don't block the box and congestion in this part of city i appreciate you're working hard to have this before the holidays get started the residents have a hard time making the meetings after thanksgiving to january but allowing the public dialog and having a if you recall conversation early next year on all of the completed work so at

this point through the chair i'd like to request we opening it up for public comment for public comment i know we have a number of folks and have been waiting i want to save my convictingful until after public comment. >> we'll opening it up for public comment for public comment i have two public comment speaker cards i'm sorry let me call the speaker cards come forward. >> and we have blue cards up in in front ms. rogers. >> good afternoon, supervisors thank you very much for bringing this issue forward i'm alice rogers the vice president for the mission bay neighborhood association i'm a 20-year

resident on south park and the safety committee block sf again, thank you and also our city departments mta and cpa crap for bringing the safety and congestion issue forward our neighborhood association supports and has actively worked with supervisor kim's office and the city departments to see effective don't block the box policy implement we ask you now to support this measure our neighborhoods are the city interface with the regional transportation our neighborhood streets are congested as you have heard beyond capacity with counterpart traffic going into the bridge and our health and safety is imperiled we're beyond providing the infrastructure that is adequate for the transportation conditions never mind the

density increases don't block the box is the fir pro-active step that the city recognizes to address the conditions on the street our neighborhood literally walks the talk and in recent says sfmta found we walk to work those are not our cars please manager this change you thank you very much. >> thank you very much. next speaker. >> supervisors i'm bill i live at the metropolitan we're a 3 hundred and 45 unit condominium and right at the epic center of this gridlock problem on the block the book we're talking about geographical we're halfway up the hill

between fulsome and harrison this box is a conversion of folks coming up from howard and beyond howard and fulsome i personally get a worms eye view the middle of the afternoon around 4 o'clock and going to 6:30 i do the shopping at safeway on townsend and fourth it can take me a half hour to 45 minutes to go that distance which is not much more than a mile i think we have made 3 recommendations for the committee to consider and they have been submitted

over the weekend talking about reengineering the lanes on fulsome and those that reengineering we'd like work with the traffic department given our advise they're the professionals but we're the ones that have to live with the situation i want to make one other comment been police officers verses pcos there is not like a cop on a corner with a gun to introduce a concern so my time is up if i could have ten seconds more. >> sure go ahead. >> we had a good experience as supervisor kim knows with a media on our problem with noise mitigation from all the construction going on around the metropolitan and

we appeared on a channel 4 c r o neutron news that got love people's attention and had a therapeutic effect to droe draw the media 0 into this for public support and i want to say one other thing i come from new york city we say having had a don't block the box under mayor coming up he was a no nonsense mayor it was implemented in a major intersections in middletown manhattan from 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. police officer participating in don't block the box you got a ticket and someone said i think $90 i remember one

hundred in 1980 and $200 today for violators bottom line we would encourage you to ask the traffic department to work with us and allow us to give them our first line birds eye view of what's going on we have a low to say to thank you for the opportunity to talk. >> thank you very much i'm going to call alleged public comment cards nicole schneider let's see (calling names)

good afternoon, supervisors i'm nicole schneider did executive director of walk san francisco. >> thank you for your time this around i'm here to support making the don't block the box program pilot program a more permanent program and support this doing this regularly on thursday and friday afternoon this is not about improving pedestrian safety but everybody's safety on our roadways and i think that you know giving people fines when they're making creating unsafe conditions for people that walk or bicycle and take transit in our city is actually a great way the educating the community of what's safe i think this is a really important measure in terms of protecting the pedestrians right we have a right to walk in the crosswalk and we should support that so i

encourage this pilot program and finally, i appreciated lizs presentation about the system ethics issues around congestion in selma and encourage the board to continue to look at congestion pricing and other strategies that are already been analyzed and on the table roll encourage the board to also push for those measures to move forward as quickly as possible it is roll a sdurgz situation right now in selma i'm sure you're aware of we need to take fast action but we lost additional people to travel thank you very much. >> thank you very much. next speaker. >> good afternoon. i'm ms. conley i'm here to support don't block the box but the action under our radar on harrison we have two schools in that neighborhood and a preschool we

respects had a young boy hit by a car and nobody to watch the kids as the cars speed through the intersection so one of my main purposes to ask that you guys keep harrison under our radar for kids to go to and from school safely. >> hi, i'm carl a member the homeowners association at the corner of second and brilliant we're ground zero for the traffic onto the bridge my story is people sold their homes and we bought a condominium and hope to bicycle and drive once again, i have a window on bryant street sometimes, it's 11 at night i

have cars honking their horns to get into the street but i try to get across the street and there's anger people but that's not why i bought my house to live in san francisco i hope we can do something about it. >> thank you very much. next speaker. >> hi, i'm debbie gold on has the same force and effect and main i want to thank supervisor kim for bringing this don't block the box it was my neighbor and friend who was killed at the corner of harrison and main by an 18 whorl in december of 02004, it is amazing how you don't think about step forward and thinking about problems in the city or anywhere until

something happens to you i haven't thought about it for 10 years i'm hoping we can have a pco at the corner of harrison and main permanently hopefully, there won't be any other residents of san francisco whether in sixth district or 10 supervisor wiener i'm not which district i represent. >> 8th district. >> no district in san francisco should have to deal with pedestrian fatalities so thank you, supervisor kim. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon. my name is is katie liddell the president of the south beach mission bay association i'm also a former co-chair of p sack and member of

supervisor kim's district 6 pedestrian safety committee so in my neighbor debbie gold her and supervisor kim took my story some of any story away from me and thank you for that deb and i met with our neighbor was killed in december of 2004 we met and we got other neighbors together and actually put a demonstration together at the intersection with a blessing of the police to memorialize berryly tease so timeline ever since then i got involved in pedestrian safety and met deb we've filed passengers over the years and met with the mta and with the commissioner president wu and put in so much effort and

still need help i have would like to see is first of all, i want to thank aaron miller and sammy and all those folks that are great to work with i appreciate the fact they're beginning to do something i also want to agree with ms. brightens comment that is one piece ever a whole piles we have to start somewhere let's start knocking off some the doable projects and this is one of them thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> next speaker good afternoon. my name is is bruce i'm a board member and transportation rep for the south beach beacon hill homeowners association and the vice chair of the ta c in november of 0